1080p is "True HD" and is the highest caliber of HD you could obtain on the PS3. If you're a videophile like me, it might bother you a little. Otherwise it looks fine.
So would you say that theres not that big of a difference ? If someone secretly switched my tv to 1080p from 1080i do you think that I would be able to notice the difference ?
Shawty, it is true resolution alone does not change on different sized tv's, but it is a dis-service not mentioning that differences in resolution can only be seen by the human eye based on the size of the screen and how far you sit from it. A 22" 1080p screen can look equivalent to a 60" 1080p, but only if you sit about 2.5 feet from the 22" set and 7' from the 60" set.
[QUOTE="shawty1984"][QUOTE="Videodogg"]I thought there was a problem with PS3 doing 1080i. I know if you tried to play a game on a 1080i only television the PS3 would downscale to 480p.FoourEyees
Thats true, or 576i here in the UK, but there isnt many native 1080i TV's about.I dont understand what you guys are saying. My TV is only 1080i so does that mean it changes to 480p? If you have a 1080i only television, then the PS3 is the wrong console for you if you were expecting to play games in HD.
You are wrong. Almost all PS3 games are native 720p. Same goes for 360. 720p is all that is really needed for games in this generation of video games. Neither console really has the horsepower to do 1080p without effecting frame rate. In fact, the Halo series doesn't even run in 720p and it still looks pretty damn good. The only real source that will give you true 1080p is Blu-Ray.
[QUOTE="FoourEyees"][QUOTE="shawty1984"]Thats true, or 576i here in the UK, but there isnt many native 1080i TV's about.Videodogg
I dont understand what you guys are saying. My TV is only 1080i so does that mean it changes to 480p? If you have a 1080i only television, then the PS3 is the wrong console for you if you were expecting to play games in HD. This is a big pile of misinformation. The PS3 is as much of an HD console as the 360, if not more.
I dont understand what you guys are saying. My TV is only 1080i so does that mean it changes to 480p?FoourEyees
If you have a 1080i only television, then the PS3 is the wrong console for you if you were expecting to play games in HD. This is a big pile of misinformation. The PS3 is as much of an HD console as the 360, if not more. nope. 360 can be set to any res. and onces you sent it to 1080p/i everything you do on the 360 is that res. meanwhile on ps3 only movies are set to be in your tvs max res. on games you have to uncheck 720p in order to get 1080p or 1080i. and if that game doesnt support 1080p/i then it knocks you down to 480. so you would have to go back into the setting and check 720 p again. i think his tv must support 720 p. i used to have a 27 1080i and my ps3 games came up as 720p just fine. if it doesnt support 720 p he is in trouble with the ps3 for games....
[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"][QUOTE="Videodogg"] If you have a 1080i only television, then the PS3 is the wrong console for you if you were expecting to play games in HD.
monson21502
This is a big pile of misinformation. The PS3 is as much of an HD console as the 360, if not more. nope. 360 can be set to any res. and onces you sent it to 1080p/i everything you do on the 360 is that res. meanwhile on ps3 only movies are set to be in your tvs max res. on games you have to uncheck 720p in order to get 1080p or 1080i. and if that game doesnt support 1080p/i then it knocks you down to 480. so you would have to go back into the setting and check 720 p again. i think his tv must support 720 p. i used to have a 27 1080i and my ps3 games came up as 720p just fine. if it doesnt support 720 p he is in trouble with the ps3 for games.... Every PS3 games supports 1080i/720p, so if you have a 720P/1080i television, you will always be at 720P/1080i.
Two most obvious differences are: - Text is noticeably sharper and easier to read in a progressive-scan output - A lot less (unintended) motion blur occurs in fast action on a progressive setting Depending on the game, these little things can make all the difference. And in short, if your TV can support 1080p, there's no reason not to employ it wherever possible.
Every PS3 games supports 1080i/720p, so if you have a 720P/1080i television, you will always be at 720P/1080i.
KHAndAnime
Except that the ps3 won't do any rescaling beyond whatever the game's box says it will support. At least with the 360, it can and be opted to output any game you want at 1080i/p even if the box doesn't explicitly say so. There is supposedly a way to "force" the ps3 to upscale 720p to 1080i/p via unchecking 720p as a supported resolution in its video settings, but that also has a caveat, in that if a game doesn't let itself be upscaled, it will be downscaled instead... all the way down to 480i/p as its programming sees fit. For me, that's one of those PITA issues about the ps3 that I just do not like.
Even though you can set 360/ps3 to 1080p, if the games are native 720p, they will look best on a native 720p display. Scaling will introduce artifacts.
Even though you can set 360/ps3 to 1080p, if the games are native 720p, they will look best on a native 720p display. Scaling will introduce artifacts.rastan
Even though you can set 360/ps3 to 1080p, if the games are native 720p, they will look best on a native 720p display. Scaling will introduce artifacts.rastan
Funny, because I find that usually the rescaling goes easier when done by the device sending the signal to the TV than to depend on the TV to rescale it instead.
Even though you can set 360/ps3 to 1080p, if the games are native 720p, they will look best on a native 720p display. Scaling will introduce artifacts.rastan
i thought stuff looked better what ever my tv`s native setting was? it is what im looking at after all.
Shawty, it is true resolution alone does not change on different sized tv's, but it is a dis-service not mentioning that differences in resolution can only be seen by the human eye based on the size of the screen and how far you sit from it. A 22" 1080p screen can look equivalent to a 60" 1080p, but only if you sit about 2.5 feet from the 22" set and 7' from the 60" set.
[QUOTE="monson21502"][QUOTE="KHAndAnime"] This is a big pile of misinformation. The PS3 is as much of an HD console as the 360, if not more.KHAndAnime
nope. 360 can be set to any res. and onces you sent it to 1080p/i everything you do on the 360 is that res. meanwhile on ps3 only movies are set to be in your tvs max res. on games you have to uncheck 720p in order to get 1080p or 1080i. and if that game doesnt support 1080p/i then it knocks you down to 480. so you would have to go back into the setting and check 720 p again. i think his tv must support 720 p. i used to have a 27 1080i and my ps3 games came up as 720p just fine. if it doesnt support 720 p he is in trouble with the ps3 for games.... Every PS3 games supports 1080i/720p, so if you have a 720P/1080i television, you will always be at 720P/1080i.
We are talking about old TV's that are 1080i and 1080i only. There is not that many about (more in America than in the UK I believe) If your TV supports only 1080i then some games for the PS3 will downscale to 480p (576i in the UK).
Every PS3 games supports 1080i/720p, so if you have a 720P/1080i television, you will always be at 720P/1080i.
codezer0
Except that the ps3 won't do any rescaling beyond whatever the game's box says it will support. At least with the 360, it can and be opted to output any game you want at 1080i/p even if the box doesn't explicitly say so. There is supposedly a way to "force" the ps3 to upscale 720p to 1080i/p via unchecking 720p as a supported resolution in its video settings, but that also has a caveat, in that if a game doesn't let itself be upscaled, it will be downscaled instead... all the way down to 480i/p as its programming sees fit. For me, that's one of those PITA issues about the ps3 that I just do not like.
It doesnt really matter in the end anyway. Really, you shouldnt be looking at upscalling stuf if you dont have to as you should always try to play in native resolution, plus the fact, anything thats getting fed to the TV, will always be at the TV's native resolution anyway (unless the source on the TV has borders around it). People think the scalling of everything to 1080p on the Xbox 360 is great, when if you have a 1080p TV, then it would be getting upscaled regardless.
[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"][QUOTE="Videodogg"] If you have a 1080i only television, then the PS3 is the wrong console for you if you were expecting to play games in HD.
monson21502
This is a big pile of misinformation. The PS3 is as much of an HD console as the 360, if not more. nope. 360 can be set to any res. and onces you sent it to 1080p/i everything you do on the 360 is that res. meanwhile on ps3 only movies are set to be in your tvs max res. on games you have to uncheck 720p in order to get 1080p or 1080i. and if that game doesnt support 1080p/i then it knocks you down to 480. so you would have to go back into the setting and check 720 p again. i think his tv must support 720 p. i used to have a 27 1080i and my ps3 games came up as 720p just fine. if it doesnt support 720 p he is in trouble with the ps3 for games.... Both consoles upscale much lower res images to fit the resolution of the TV during games I think. Correct me if I'm wrong.
If you want to avoid confusion and heresay, seriously do the research yourself. Read your TV's manual. Google is also a great resource, with blog entries, tech articles, etc: just make sure the information is coming from 2008/2009 (that way you know it's up to date on current trends).
It doesnt really matter in the end anyway. Really, you shouldnt be looking at upscalling stuf if you dont have to as you should always try to play in native resolution, plus the fact, anything thats getting fed to the TV, will always be at the TV's native resolution anyway (unless the source on the TV has borders around it). People think the scalling of everything to 1080p on the Xbox 360 is great, when if you have a 1080p TV, then it would be getting upscaled regardless.
shawty1984
Actually, most but the highest-end TV's usually have very poor scalers, which is why many HDTV's fail so terribly when displaying content that was in standard definition being fed into it. This is why upscaling DVD players and HD/BD players generally were much favored for the standard def DVD movies. The scalers in these devices generally can better rescale it so that, even if not perfect, it generally looks a damn sight better than depending on the TV to do it for you. And the scaler chip in the 360 for (re)scaled output is admittedly quite good in the 360. What doesn't make sense to me, is that even as capable as the RSX is in the ps3, Sony doesn't seem willing to allow it to rescale it as need be.
Both consoles upscale much lower res images to fit the resolution of the TV during games I think. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Hellsing2o2
Yes, this works fine for images and videos, but it seems that they are handled differently regarding games. On the 360, it can (re)scale any game up to 1080p with at least Component Video Cables, and everything (including protected HD-DVD with the add-on drive) when using HDMI. With the PS3, it can only do 1080p for bluray on HDMI. But it seems insistent on refusing to upscale games beyond whatever the game box says.
[QUOTE="rastan"]Even though you can set 360/ps3 to 1080p, if the games are native 720p, they will look best on a native 720p display. Scaling will introduce artifacts.codezer0
Funny, because I find that usually the rescaling goes easier when done by the device sending the signal to the TV than to depend on the TV to rescale it instead. Often it does, but what I'm really trying to say is that if you don't have to scale, don't. It's amazing how good standard DVD can look at 480i on a CRT TV when compared to an upscaled DVD on a new HDTV.
[QUOTE="monson21502"][QUOTE="KHAndAnime"] This is a big pile of misinformation. The PS3 is as much of an HD console as the 360, if not more.Hellsing2o2
nope. 360 can be set to any res. and onces you sent it to 1080p/i everything you do on the 360 is that res. meanwhile on ps3 only movies are set to be in your tvs max res. on games you have to uncheck 720p in order to get 1080p or 1080i. and if that game doesnt support 1080p/i then it knocks you down to 480. so you would have to go back into the setting and check 720 p again. i think his tv must support 720 p. i used to have a 27 1080i and my ps3 games came up as 720p just fine. if it doesnt support 720 p he is in trouble with the ps3 for games.... Both consoles upscale much lower res images to fit the resolution of the TV during games I think. Correct me if I'm wrong. your wrong. ps3 only does 1080i/p on a very select few games and order to get 1080 on those games you have to uncheck 720p. on other games you have to go back in check 720p or else you get knocked down to 480. so if a tv only supports 1080i he will only be able to play a select few in hd. think i had 5 or 6 ps3 games at one point and only warhawk would let me use 1080p. so i just gave up and kept 720p checked and if i kept that checked even warhawk came up 720 p even though i still had 1080p checked. bunch a hassle to be honest. some thing im shocked sony hasnt fixed yet....
[QUOTE="codezer0"][QUOTE="rastan"]Even though you can set 360/ps3 to 1080p, if the games are native 720p, they will look best on a native 720p display. Scaling will introduce artifacts.rastan
Funny, because I find that usually the rescaling goes easier when done by the device sending the signal to the TV than to depend on the TV to rescale it instead. Often it does, but what I'm really trying to say is that if you don't have to scale, don't. It's amazing how good standard DVD can look at 480i on a CRT TV when compared to an upscaled DVD on a new HDTV.only upscalers i ever used was ps3 and 360 and both of them look way better on my cheap magnavox brand 1080p tv then any crt tv i got with dvds.
I was under the impression that most games were even below 720p, so some form of scaling is bound to happen somewhere along the lines, regardless if your 360/ps3 is set to output 720p or 1080p.
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