Is there any way to actually fully stop game Pirating?

Why would you possibly want to stop piracy??What would the companies that design security systems (starforce,drm) do then?What would be the excuse for the companies that move to consoles because of piracy??*cough* Crytek....how could publishers raise the prices claiming piracy hurts their sales???This is how the system works.

It naturally comes along with the freedom of the internet, it isn't simply going to go way. The reality is though pc gaming has bigger issues than piracy. Issues like releasing software half done, or having such inefficent system requirements that most people could never even run the game. There is already the stigma attached to pc gaming that it is expensive. It doesn't help the matter that you can buy a game yet despite what the box says your pc still may not run it properly. Companies see piracy as more of a scapegoat. A way to avoid having to focus on their real faults. Honestly the less time they spend worrying about and trying to prevent piracy and more time they spend doing something about the garbage they continue to push into the market every year the better off they will be.

I wonder If something could be done to PC hardware , like for the PS3 to stop piracy..

[QUOTE="1carus"]

Piracy is NOT theft. Rather, it's more like, if could go up to a car that looks flash, somehow make a clone of it, and then drive away without paying, would be more in line to what piracy is - which is far less damaging than actually stealing something.

BLKR4330

stealing an idea or intelectual property may not be theft in the traditional sense of the word, fact is; something is taken and used that does not belong to the one taking it without consent or compensation to the owner. if this was far less damaging (not sure how you get to this conclusion) why do you think it's such a big issue today? if you came up with a great new and creative idea for a game, then put a lot of effort into making this idea into an actual game only to find out that peoples everywhere are playing it yet you struggle to earn back the costs of making it. how would you feel the next time you had a great idea?

No in my eyes at least I think piracy will never be destroyed.

[QUOTE="BLKR4330"]

[QUOTE="1carus"]

Piracy is NOT theft. Rather, it's more like, if could go up to a car that looks flash, somehow make a clone of it, and then drive away without paying, would be more in line to what piracy is - which is far less damaging than actually stealing something.

Nibroc420

stealing an idea or intelectual property may not be theft in the traditional sense of the word, fact is; something is taken and used that does not belong to the one taking it without consent or compensation to the owner. if this was far less damaging (not sure how you get to this conclusion) why do you think it's such a big issue today? if you came up with a great new and creative idea for a game, then put a lot of effort into making this idea into an actual game only to find out that peoples everywhere are playing it yet you struggle to earn back the costs of making it. how would you feel the next time you had a great idea?

That sounds believable but is beside the point as far as i am concerned. You see, it doesn't really matter if developers get their pay, if publishers lose, developers will lose too sooner or later and so will we as gamers. I consider the state of pc-gaming today as proof enough of that. And the analogy with the copying a car kinda works, as does piracy itself, but only as long as the majority keeps on paying for their product. It is not as innocent as you and others make it out to be because the more peoples adopt this reasoning the less peoples will be left to sustain the system that is responsible for there being a car (or game) in the first place.

Saying piracy can not be stopped is too easy although i do agree that drm does very little to stop it. Peoples who pirate do so with different motives. Some of these motives are very susceptible to counter measures others aren't.

Force every game to Steam/Gamersgate/Impulse and have to be authorised with a certain body. The moment we have a pirate they can expect a nice fine coming there way.

Yes there is a solution - make games affordable and not a rich luxury.

And yes there is still a decent profit to be made with affordable games...and movies for that matter.

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"]

[QUOTE="BLKR4330"]

stealing an idea or intelectual property may not be theft in the traditional sense of the word, fact is; something is taken and used that does not belong to the one taking it without consent or compensation to the owner. if this was far less damaging (not sure how you get to this conclusion) why do you think it's such a big issue today? if you came up with a great new and creative idea for a game, then put a lot of effort into making this idea into an actual game only to find out that peoples everywhere are playing it yet you struggle to earn back the costs of making it. how would you feel the next time you had a great idea?

BLKR4330

That sounds believable but is beside the point as far as i am concerned. You see, it doesn't really matter if developers get their pay, if publishers lose, developers will lose too sooner or later and so will we as gamers. I consider the state of pc-gaming today as proof enough of that. And the analogy with the copying a car kinda works, as does piracy itself, but only as long as the majority keeps on paying for their product. It is not as innocent as you and others make it out to be because the more peoples adopt this reasoning the less peoples will be left to sustain the system that is responsible for there being a car (or game) in the first place.

Saying piracy can not be stopped is too easy although i do agree that drm does very little to stop it. Peoples who pirate do so with different motives. Some of these motives are very susceptible to counter measures others aren't.

Someone posted a few pages back that some game only let you install them a couple times, are their games really like that?? Thats just over doing it.

I don't know if piracy can be stopped, I think if more people got in trouble for it people would be less likely to pirate games.

If you are somebody like me you wont pirate games because you realise you dont appreciate it as much when you don't pay for it yourself, the same with anything in life :P

Someone posted a few pages back that some game only let you install them a couple times, are their games really like that?? Thats just over doing it.

I don't know if piracy can be stopped, I think if more people got in trouble for it people would be less likely to pirate games.

If you are somebody like me you wont pirate games because you realise you dont appreciate it as much when you don't pay for it yourself, the same with anything in life :P

BryB

hopefully not , because 90% of gaems are 1/2 finished and needs lots of patches to work (Gta IV) i usually try a copy and if i like it i'll buy it , only when companies takes gamers seriously and not release games that are worth nothing !

Don't worry about others pirating; just be glad you made the better moral decision, be happy, and hope for the best for the gaming industry. I know it's quite an apathetic approach, but seriously, you shouldn't worry about things you have no control over.

Well, there is one way........

Bring back internet cafes and totally get rid of home computers. People who want to use computers for recreational purposes must go to public cafes where the internet usuage is being monitered (not by humans but my other machines). Work computers stay at work. School computers stay at school.

In other words there is no possible way of fully getting rid of game pirating. :D

Think of piratating this way.

Pirate is like the common cold, it won't go away you can put preventive measures but you will get it either way sometime in your life. Then you use DRM or cold medicine to stop it however to find out it doesn't cure it at all it does more damage (medicine for colds are no proven to do more harm than good) same thing with DRM you only hurt yourself because potential customers will not be buying games because of restrictive DRM.

Short of blowing up the planet, I think piracy is here to stay sadly.

the government places harsher punishments on pirating and enforces it strictly there a reason people won't walk into bestbuy and start picking and choices the games they want and walk out without paying yet the same person will without second thought go to a torrent site and download a game for free its not so much a moral problem you can't expect everyone to go on their moral high horse and do it out good will sure some people will stop but until there is real risk of getting caught and prosucuted most people will continue to do it.

And why the hell are games so expensive? 10 years ago, they sold for about $70 (AU) which was quite steep, and this was because the market was more of a niche - not as popular as it is today. Today, despite the fact the industry has blown up ten fold, games are even more expensive, $30 more infact. It's an absolute disgrace. How dare they try to swindle our money on the clause of "What? That's just how much games cost." No, games these days shouldn't cost much more than a film on DVD or Blu-Ray.

If it can read/write then it can be cracked. end of story

I've never pirated a game ever.

But I copy music from the library onto my ipod all the time. I'll support the gaming industry people. But I have no desire whatsoever to support some rockstar... like, say, Bono, for example.

Some damned U2 fan I know once said to me after I had borrowed his All That You Can't Leave Behind CD and copied it onto my ipod that I was... ahem... 'stealing' from U2 and that I was denying them the money that they deserved for having made the album.

Yup, that's too bad, I said.

Bono can kiss my...

ummm i dont know but the ps3 got no pirating cuz of bluray discs maybe if they make bluray games there will be less pirating. or we can send Mike tyson to the pirate bay creators lol (:

ummm i dont know but the ps3 got no pirating cuz of bluray discs maybe if they make bluray games there will be less pirating. or we can send Mike tyson to the pirate bay creators lol (:

explasiv

Thats not really a solution, Blue-ray will get cheap if it is mass produced, just like DVDs they weren't exactly cheap comapred to now when they were first introduced.

The only way pirating ends is when people feel it is morally wrong and don't do it.

Whiteblade999

In other words: never.

[QUOTE="Whiteblade999"]

The only way pirating ends is when people feel it is morally wrong and don't do it.

Hakud0ushi

In other words: never.