is this a ripoff???

hey guys!

i went to the local computer store, and i am looking for a desktop that:

plays Modern Warfare 3 on decent graphics

plays starcraft 2 on decent graphics

the computer that the employee referred to me is this:

intel core i7 processor 2600 (3.4GHz)

8GB DDR3- 1333 RAM

1.5TB 7,200 RPM serial ATA HD

AMD RADEON HD 6770 (1GB Video)

this was for the price of 900 dollars

im pretty lacking in knowledge on computers

1. is that a good buildup for my goals? (play sc2 and MW3 on decent graphics)

if so is it a fair price at 900? if its overkill im willing to buy something cheaper

thanks!

its decent deal considering it comes with windows 7......make sure to ask what the power supply is. Im not too sure you could get a better deal if you built this pc.

If your willing to buy online you can get a better prebuilt deals like

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883227383

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229283

It is. http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.755265 + http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125401MonsieurX

sorry, i didnt quite understand that statement??myungstunna

sorry, i didnt quite understand that statement??myungstunna

Go with a PC with an i5 2500 CPU and atleast a 560 Ti/6950 GPU.

The current PC has a terrible combination of CPU and GPU for gaming.

thanks guys! so im looking at: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883227383 this is prebuilt? i assume it is but i dont see any indicator saying it is..myungstunna

The original PC you have listed needs just one modification. Downgrade the CPU to 2500 and upgrade the GPU to 6950.

[QUOTE="myungstunna"]thanks guys! so im looking at: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883227383 this is prebuilt? i assume it is but i dont see any indicator saying it is..Gambler_3

The original PC you have listed needs just one modification. Downgrade the CPU to 2500 and upgrade the GPU to 6950.

[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]

[QUOTE="myungstunna"]thanks guys! so im looking at: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883227383 this is prebuilt? i assume it is but i dont see any indicator saying it is..04dcarraher

The original PC you have listed needs just one modification. Downgrade the CPU to 2500 and upgrade the GPU to 6950.

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"][QUOTE="Gambler_3"]That CPU sucks.

The original PC you have listed needs just one modification. Downgrade the CPU to 2500 and upgrade the GPU to 6950.

Gambler_3

You can configure your own PC at ibuypower.

Go to custom configurator select intel system, then select Z68 system. Then change the CPU to i5-2500k, change the GPU to 2GB GTX 560, change the PSU to 650W corsair and bam you have your PC for $925. Much much better than the $800 one.

[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"] Your an idiot for saying the FX 6100 cpu sucks it does just fine for gaming..... A FX 6100 with a GTX 560 will cream an i7 2600k with a 6770, the Pc he posted is a prebuilt and I dont think he wants to build his own so that $800 prebuilt is the better option. 04dcarraher

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"][QUOTE="Gambler_3"]An i7 is a waste, he can surely find one with 2500 and 560 within his budget.

Gambler_3

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"][QUOTE="Gambler_3"]An i7 is a waste, he can surely find one with 2500 and 560 within his budget.

Gambler_3

[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"] If he can find one within his budget of course go with it. but saying a FX 6100 is awful just plain fan boy talk right there. Ya bulldozers are not as fast as the icores but they will do the job just fine. wis3boi

They use expensive casing in the base model I didnt realise that. My selecting the cheapest casing which is still an antec one you get 2500k with 2GB 560 and 8GB Ram for $900. The casing and power supply is better than the $800 PC so you arent just paying for the CPU.

thanks for the discussion guys.

sooo basically one gentleman is saying for the 800 build the GPU is a waste of money when i could buy something much better for a similar price?

for the part in discussion, will it do just fine with most games without causing problems?

They use expensive casing in the base model I didnt realise that. My selecting the cheapest casing which is still an antec one you get 2500k with 2GB 560 and 8GB Ram for $900. The casing and power supply is better than the $800 PC so you arent just paying for the CPU.

Gambler_3

thanks for the discussion guys.

sooo basically one gentleman is saying for the 800 build the GPU is a waste of money when i could buy something much better for a similar price?

for the part in discussion, will it do just fine with most games without causing problems?

myungstunna

There you go the same configuration as the $800 PC but with much better CPU and 2 free games.

THANKS so just to clarify for the 800 build http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883227383 what exactly is an upgrade over the original build i put up? intel core i7 processor 2600 (3.4GHz) 8GB DDR3- 1333 RAM 1.5TB 7,200 RPM serial ATA HD AMD RADEON HD 6770 (1GB Video)myungstunna

If I may ask, how much better is the CPU than the original 800 build?myungstunna

[QUOTE="myungstunna"]If I may ask, how much better is the CPU than the original 800 build?Gambler_3

It IS a generation better. Now while the wii vs PS3 might be a bit too extreme example but he doesnt know much about computers and would understand it best that way.

thanks u all have helped me so much. just wondering (if you know this easily off the top of your head) how high of settings could both CPU's handle on COD or SC2?myungstunna

thanks u all have helped me so much. just wondering (if you know this easily off the top of your head) how high of settings could both CPU's handle on COD or SC2?myungstunna

SC2 the intel will give you a noticeable edge, you will get slowdowns with the $800 system.

thanks u all have helped me so much. just wondering (if you know this easily off the top of your head) how high of settings could both CPU's handle on COD or SC2?myungstunna

[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"] If he can find one within his budget of course go with it. but saying a FX 6100 is awful just plain fan boy talk right there. Ya bulldozers are not as fast as the icores but they will do the job just fine. wis3boi

No I completely agree with gambler on this one. All you AMD fanboys need to stf.. I would take the computer he linked in the first post over the fx-4100 any day of the week. Only reason to recommend AMD is if his budget is so low that he cant even be flexible. to the OP, the bottom line is the first pc you picked has a MUCH stronger cpu than the second pc that was shown to you. The i7 is about 2 times faster than the bulldozer. Also the 6770 while not the greatest graphics card will be enough to play any game you like out there on at least high settings at 1080p resoultion. A graphics card update 2 years down the line is much easier and less painful in the wallet than a cpu upgrade. Lets just leave it at that.

[QUOTE="wis3boi"][QUOTE="Gambler_3"]Awful as in awful decision since he can afford intel system.

blaznwiipspman1

No I completely agree with gambler on this one. All you AMD fanboys need to stf.. I would take the computer he linked in the first post over the fx-4100 any day of the week. Only reason to recommend AMD is if his budget is low.

And you would be an idiot for doing so, FX 6100 GTX 560> i7 2600K 6770... the TC isnt tech savy what if you wont upgrade? which one would you pick then? , general rule of thumb is get a better gpu over beter cpu for gaming... In most games that are graphics prone and use quads + there is only very small differences in performance between C2Q, Phenom 2, Bulldozer or icore cpu's. the only games that see any real difference are ones that are single threaded or only use two cores thats only when icore's raw processing power over comes poor coding. Even then its not like you wont get good performance nor not play games smoothly in not getting an intel cpu. You really need to stop with the fanboy crap because your one.

gambler. im on the ibuypower site yet its asking me what kind of intel or AMD i wanna do? which one do i do? or whoever else knows? thanksmyungstunna

theres just a crapload of options and im tryina mix and match but i didnt know thered be so many

**n=evermind im working my way thru it

I'll try to help you out http://www.ibuypower.com/Store/Intel_Z68_Core_i5_i7_Configurator

Select Azza triton case

Select

i5 2400 or 2500

select 8gb of ram

select GTX 560

select 700w standard psu

leave everything else alone

your total should be $872 or under