Issues with Steam

I made a thread a while back about wondering if you actually have the games you download and are able to mod them. Well im still wondering this. I downloaded L4D and im wondering IF I can use mods and free maps ect? I want to download other games from Steam but Im wanting to utilize my new pc I just built. I want MODS,free maps all the advantages...DO I have to buy the actual games to do this? OR can I use my downloaded games for such???

IM not totally sold on Steam yet..can someone help with my issues??

Maybe you should ask on the Steam forums so people who actualy have the game thorugh Steam could answer?

I made a thread a while back about wondering if you actually have the games you download and are able to mod them. Well im still wondering this. I downloaded L4D and im wondering IF I can use mods and free maps ect? I want to download other games from Steam but Im wanting to utilize my new pc I just built. I want MODS,free maps all the advantages...DO I have to buy the actual games to do this? OR can I use my downloaded games for such???

IM not totally sold on Steam yet..can someone help with my issues??

VanDammFan

not really sure what you're trying to ask here, but with steam, when you buy a game from them or a retail that requires steam, you can download/install it into your computer and you can get mods/maps for that said game.

some full conversion mods that are source base only needs one type of source game like l4d/l4d2 or half life 2 install to play them.

you can't use pirate games on steam if thats what you're trying to ask.

not really sure what you're trying to ask here, but with steam, when you buy a game from them or a retail that requires steam, you can download/install it into your computer and you can get mods/maps for that said game.

some full conversion mods that are source base only needs one type of source game like l4d/l4d2 or half life 2 install to play them.

you can't use pirate games on steam if thats what you're trying to ask.

cyanblues

NOT a pirated game...I BOUGHT and downloaded it from Steam. Just not real sure about this whole way of playing games.

[QUOTE="VanDammFan"]

I made a thread a while back about wondering if you actually have the games you download and are able to mod them. Well im still wondering this. I downloaded L4D and im wondering IF I can use mods and free maps ect? I want to download other games from Steam but Im wanting to utilize my new pc I just built. I want MODS,free maps all the advantages...DO I have to buy the actual games to do this? OR can I use my downloaded games for such???

IM not totally sold on Steam yet..can someone help with my issues??

wis3boi

Dont see the need in using foul language?? BUT im new to Steam. I have questions. Im not use to playing my games this way. AND im sorry, but I dont think we own these games that we download...I mean...Can I make a hard copy of it to keep for myself and use on any PC?? THIS is why DD will not do well with some people.."me"..BUT im trying.

[QUOTE="cyanblues"]

not really sure what you're trying to ask here, but with steam, when you buy a game from them or a retail that requires steam, you can download/install it into your computer and you can get mods/maps for that said game.

some full conversion mods that are source base only needs one type of source game like l4d/l4d2 or half life 2 install to play them.

you can't use pirate games on steam if thats what you're trying to ask.

VanDammFan

NOT a pirated game...I BOUGHT and downloaded it from Steam. Just not real sure about this whole way of playing games.

Can I make a hard copy of it to keep for myself and use on any PC?? VanDammFan

You can use any mod that does not require a custom executable (basically all of them). Steam games use a special executable that launches Steam whenever you try to run it (as Steam is always required in the background). With most games the data files are outside of the executable so it's easy to mod them. There are a few (especially older) games that won't work with some mods that worked with the retail game but that's very rare. I only know one game that was like that and Steam worked with the mod authors to get the mod working with the Steam version.

The rude first posters aside, Yeah when you buy a game off steam it is yours to have, you can mod it (Im certain of this, since half my steam bought games are modded :P) you can play around with them or alter them, as long as it is not about hacks in online games or pirated games (those two will be really bad for your health).

Everything goes, Valve is very mod heavy and pro modding, Ive never seen them fret over anyone modding thier games, besides The majority of Steam games are not made by valve, so it is not thier call, but rather Companies like EA, Activision, SE, Ubi and so on. But again they really dont mind you modding a game :P Or use cheat codes in SP games. (since they are usually disabled in online games).

The second part of the topic would be if you own the games, Ive been in on it a bit, but yeah you do own said games, you can make your own copys of said games if you care to (but still only play it on that one account). If Valve were to go bankrupt they also have safety measures put in, that unlocks all the games bought through Steam, t funktion just fine without steam. It was long ago that was implemented, back when they still were uncertain if this would fly, but it remained thier practice.

Only real negative with steam is if you get your account stolen, or if you got the odd idea to hack, well Im sure Hacking only shuts down the online portion of games (in any case the rest of us gamers really like that deal ;) ) If your account is stolen, you just need to send in an email with a recipt for one of your games on said account, or a pic of a cd key, and theyll get you the account back. Might take a while tho.

When everything is said and done it is quite clear tho that some people have an easier time adjusting to the DD market then others, I think it is part of human nature, since you do nto have a tactile feel of what you own in your hands. So suspicion would be normal for some, every time technology made a leap this happened, and DD IS very much a jump in technology (or atlest in how it works and are precived).

[QUOTE="VanDammFan"]Can I make a hard copy of it to keep for myself and use on any PC?? deadesa

See I think thats what I dont like. You have to use an external source "steam" to play these games. I just dont see me using DD very much because of this. BUT thanks to everyone for the replies..Does anyone have a good place to get some cool mods,free maps for L4D?? Would be nice to see if I can get something to work..

Thishttp://www.l4dmaps.com/andhttp://www.moddb.com/

Thishttp://www.l4dmaps.com/andhttp://www.moddb.com/

DanielDust

Great!!! Thanks...I searched GOOGLE but just didnt find what I was looking for..:) Now for some downloading..

[QUOTE="deadesa"][QUOTE="VanDammFan"]Can I make a hard copy of it to keep for myself and use on any PC?? VanDammFan

See I think thats what I dont like. You have to use an external source "steam" to play these games. I just dont see me using DD very much because of this. BUT thanks to everyone for the replies..Does anyone have a good place to get some cool mods,free maps for L4D?? Would be nice to see if I can get something to work..

[QUOTE="VanDammFan"]

[QUOTE="deadesa"]Indeed you can do that. You can backup Steam games to dvd with ease and install them on any other computer that is linked to your Steam account. Also you own the games, you can mod them however you please.wis3boi

See I think thats what I dont like. You have to use an external source "steam" to play these games. I just dont see me using DD very much because of this. BUT thanks to everyone for the replies..Does anyone have a good place to get some cool mods,free maps for L4D?? Would be nice to see if I can get something to work..

Sure...I understand that...BUT lets just say...for argument sake..STEAM goes down the tube OR I dont use the internet any longer...I should be able SOME WAY to have my game I paid for in hard copy format..This is my only true issue with DD..

PLUS it suxxxcks knowing I payed 20$ for L4D on STEAM "no hard copy" when I see it on Amazon for about 17$ full hard copy game..Its going to just take time for me and lots of others to embrace DD...only time will tell..lol

[QUOTE="wis3boi"][QUOTE="VanDammFan"]

See I think thats what I dont like. You have to use an external source "steam" to play these games. I just dont see me using DD very much because of this. BUT thanks to everyone for the replies..Does anyone have a good place to get some cool mods,free maps for L4D?? Would be nice to see if I can get something to work..

VanDammFan

Sure...I understand that...BUT lets just say...for argument sake..STEAM goes down the tube OR I dont use the internet any longer...I should be able SOME WAY to have my game I paid for in hard copy format..This is my only true issue with DD..

PLUS it suxxxcks knowing I payed 20$ for L4D on STEAM "no hard copy" when I see it on Amazon for about 17$ full hard copy game..Its going to just take time for me and lots of others to embrace DD...only time will tell..lol

Sure...I understand that...BUT lets just say...for argument sake..

you will be able yo play your games, all of them, even if Steam goes under. Just as somebody around here said, some people are afraid of DD, they're too insecure when it comes to change.DanielDust

Well like me, most people hate to pay for something and not able to hold "it" in their hands. THIS is what will hold back DD to some extent. SURE its nice to know "someone" has my items Ive purchased nice and safe in their possession...BUT normally I have that control. AS for now, I have downloaded and played a few user made maps for L4D and its working fine. Nice to know you can still do this with DD..

[QUOTE="DanielDust"]you will be able yo play your games, all of them, even if Steam goes under. Just as somebody around here said, some people are afraid of DD, they're too insecure when it comes to change.VanDammFan

Well like me, most people hate to pay for something and not able to hold "it" in their hands. THIS is what will hold back DD to some extent. SURE its nice to know "someone" has my items Ive purchased nice and safe in their possession...BUT normally I have that control. AS for now, I have downloaded and played a few user made maps for L4D and its working fine. Nice to know you can still do this with DD..

but people do that all the time, esp with music mp3's itunes, etc. its the same thing but as someone said you can make a backup copy of your games already anyways with steam

[QUOTE="deadesa"][QUOTE="VanDammFan"]Can I make a hard copy of it to keep for myself and use on any PC?? VanDammFan

See I think thats what I dont like. You have to use an external source "steam" to play these games. I just dont see me using DD very much because of this. BUT thanks to everyone for the replies..Does anyone have a good place to get some cool mods,free maps for L4D?? Would be nice to see if I can get something to work..

IMPULSE is another DD place and it does not make you use a program when you want to play the games you ahve bought.
Say you bought Dragon Age2 from Impulse.... next week when it comes out, the only time youll have to start up the iMPULSE program is when you install the game. From then on all you have to do is start the game up and the program does not start up like steam does.

I love steam and I love Impulse, both awesome DD, but IF you have an issue with starting steam everytime you want to play a game.. then try IMPULSE! Just start the game up and no reason to start up IMPULSE to play your game.

[QUOTE="DanielDust"]you will be able yo play your games, all of them, even if Steam goes under. Just as somebody around here said, some people are afraid of DD, they're too insecure when it comes to change.VanDammFan

Well like me, most people hate to pay for something and not able to hold "it" in their hands. THIS is what will hold back DD to some extent. SURE its nice to know "someone" has my items Ive purchased nice and safe in their possession...BUT normally I have that control. AS for now, I have downloaded and played a few user made maps for L4D and its working fine. Nice to know you can still do this with DD..

.STEAM goes down the tube OR I dont use the internet any longer...I should be able SOME WAY to have my game I paid for in hard copy format..VanDammFan

See I think thats what I dont like. You have to use an external source "steam" to play these games. I just dont see me using DD very much because of this. BUT thanks to everyone for the replies..Does anyone have a good place to get some cool mods,free maps for L4D?? Would be nice to see if I can get something to work..

VanDammFan

There are other digital stores other than Steam. There's Impulse, GamersGate, GoG. You can run their games from the Desktop without anything else in the background.

I didn't like Steam at first for the same reason, but I changed my mind when I wanted a game that was Steam-only.:P

I made a thread a while back about wondering if you actually have the games you download and are able to mod them. Well im still wondering this. I downloaded L4D and im wondering IF I can use mods and free maps ect? I want to download other games from Steam but Im wanting to utilize my new pc I just built. I want MODS,free maps all the advantages...DO I have to buy the actual games to do this? OR can I use my downloaded games for such???

IM not totally sold on Steam yet..can someone help with my issues??

VanDammFan