it is just me or does metal gear solid 4 looks better than any pc game out?

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#1 ncderek
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i dont know about you guys, but every time i see metal gear solid 4 somewhere i get jealous. i never even played a single metal gear solid game before, but every time i see it, it just looks better than any pc game out or coming out and it pisses me off. anyone else feel the same way?
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#2 BloodMist
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Crysis looks better.
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#3 theking52
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Yeah I mean DX10 is already better than PS3 GPU which uses DX9. Correct me if I'm wrong...
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Yeah I mean DX10 is already better than PS3 GPU which uses DX9. Correct me if I'm wrong...theking52
That just further exemplifies his point
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#5 SoulPsychadelic
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Have they released any gameplay footage or is it all cut scenes? Because cut scenes tend to look better than the actual game. I haven't been following it but I know 50% of MetalGear games are cutscenes so I just figured chances are, and I haven't seen any game play my self just cutscenes. 
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#6 Deamon321
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Yeah I mean DX10 is already better than PS3 GPU which uses DX9. Correct me if I'm wrong...theking52
yes but the ps3 is desighned to play games, nothing else. thats why it can run anything a PC can with such limited specs. IMO in a lot of ways it looks better than crysis because has anyone noticed that crysis literally looks liek crap in urban environments??? literally nothing looks good except the coastline and the jungle. Pay more attention to teh more urban screens to notice what im talkin about.
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#7 Deamon321
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Have they released any gameplay footage or is it all cut scenes? Because cut scenes tend to look better than the actual game. I haven't been following it but I know 50% of MetalGear games are cutscenes so I just figured chances are, and I haven't seen any game play my self just cutscenes. SoulPsychadelic
every single metal gear games cutscenes are running off the in game engine so its gonna look liek that. and i think that llike half of it is gameplay anyway.
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#8 accord100
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The framerate looked kinda choppy the last time I saw a video of it.
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#9 A-S_FM
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[QUOTE="SoulPsychadelic"]Have they released any gameplay footage or is it all cut scenes? Because cut scenes tend to look better than the actual game. I haven't been following it but I know 50% of MetalGear games are cutscenes so I just figured chances are, and I haven't seen any game play my self just cutscenes. Deamon321
every single metal gear games cutscenes are running off the in game engine so its gonna look liek that. and i think that llike half of it is gameplay anyway.



actually, this is crazy untrue - while they are running in-engine, they are always far, far more detailed than the actual gameplay moments - you only have to look at any of those cool trailer-videos the ps3 has, then look at gameplay footage (lair is a perfect example) to see that there is a massive difference between in-engine video and gameplay visual quality, strange as it may seem

the same was true in metal gear solid 2 and 3 as well

all that said, mgs4 does look great - but there are several upcoming pc games that look better when you take the actual gameplay footage itself as what matters
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#10 BloodMist
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yes but the ps3 is desighned to play games, nothing else. thats why it can run anything a PC can with such limited specs. IMO in a lot of ways it looks better than crysis because has anyone noticed that crysis literally looks liek crap in urban environments??? literally nothing looks good except the coastline and the jungle. Pay more attention to teh more urban screens to notice what im talkin about. Deamon321

Crysis is of course still under development, and we also haven't seen actual MGS4 gameplay, either.It could be like Motorstorm for all we know.
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#11 darkfox101
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how big is the enviorment? i want to see it look as good as crysis and have every thing destructible...
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#12 indzman
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MGS 4 rocks on console but dosen't look better than CRYSIS for P.C .

U said u never played any MGS game before , u can get / play MGS 2 : Substance for P.C .

Theres a nice patch for ATI / Nvidia cards to set the games compatibility issues with the G.P.U cards .Make sure u patch the game .

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#13 hippygoat
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hmmm it looks pretty good in the videos true, but the screenshots really dont look that great. the textures just dont seem great in the screenshots. of course screenshots almost always look worse than the actual game though. screeenshots: http://media.ps3.ign.com/media/714/714044/imgs_1.html
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#14 monco59
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i dont know about you guys, but every time i see metal gear solid 4 somewhere i get jealous. i never even played a single metal gear solid game before, but every time i see it, it just looks better than any pc game out or coming out and it pisses me off. anyone else feel the same way?ncderek
One word... Crysis Heck, IMO MGS4 isn't even in the top 5 of best looking games recently released or upcoming...
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#15 jamesgj
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Real life then Crysis MGS4 dosen't touch.

http://maxygames.no.sapo.pt/Crysis.jpg

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#16 zero9167
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did you forget about crysis? but yeah mgs 4 looks good, because the ps3 and x360 are both powerful systems. right now gears of war is the best looking shooter out imo
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[QUOTE="theking52"]Yeah I mean DX10 is already better than PS3 GPU which uses DX9. Correct me if I'm wrong...Deamon321
yes but the ps3 is desighned to play games, nothing else. thats why it can run anything a PC can with such limited specs. IMO in a lot of ways it looks better than crysis because has anyone noticed that crysis literally looks liek crap in urban environments??? literally nothing looks good except the coastline and the jungle. Pay more attention to teh more urban screens to notice what im talkin about.

and have you seen Crysis in urban environments ?  no prob not becuase the only urban screenshots shown is just the engine not Crysis. So Crysis could be a hell of alot better.

Also Metal Gear Solid 4 looks like Splinter Cell Chaos Theory graphics nothing special

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#18 xxstalker24xx
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[QUOTE="theking52"]Yeah I mean DX10 is already better than PS3 GPU which uses DX9. Correct me if I'm wrong...Deamon321
yes but the ps3 is desighned to play games, nothing else. thats why it can run anything a PC can with such limited specs. IMO in a lot of ways it looks better than crysis because has anyone noticed that crysis literally looks liek crap in urban environments??? literally nothing looks good except the coastline and the jungle. Pay more attention to teh more urban screens to notice what im talkin about.

and have you seen Crysis in urban environments ?  no prob not becuase the only urban screenshots shown is just the engine not Crysis. So Crysis could be a hell of alot better.

Also Metal Gear Solid 4 looks like Splinter Cell Chaos Theory graphics nothing special

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#19 arangadillo
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that real life / crysis link is awesome...however, tree bark , sun rays, and coast line don't make a game good or look good for that matter. I am more interested in A.I., game mechanics and so on. MS4 looks pretty damn good. The series has come a long way from the psx days. I am stoked. As for crysis...i won't be getting Vista for some time so I don't think I will be able to see it in all its glory. Although I am sure it will be fun as hell.
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#20 wizdom
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i dont know about you guys, but every time i see metal gear solid 4 somewhere i get jealous. i never even played a single metal gear solid game before, but every time i see it, it just looks better than any pc game out or coming out and it pisses me off. anyone else feel the same way?ncderek
Its you, You must need glasses if you think MGS 4 looks better then Crysis
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#21 someone6669
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The real question is.. "Will MGS4 be a better game than any PC game out?"

The answer to that is most probably YES! I am so looking forward to this. Best game series ever IMO

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#22 ncderek
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im not talking about graphics, of course crysis looks good, and crysis is prob the only game ill ever get, and id rather have crysis, i still get a little jealous everytime i see metal gear solid tho
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#23 Cranler
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Looks like a last gen game  http://www.gameslave.co.uk/imageviewer.cfm?img=15835&title=Metal-Gear-Solid-4
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#24 oback
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its just you
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#25 ncderek
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crysis looks great tho, def the best game ill ever play, metal gear just has something about it, like seeing halo 3 or something, similar effect, its not better but its up there, and ill never be able to touch it
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#26 falloutfan
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Crysis looks great, it has the best graphics out there right now.

But something about it always looks fake to me. Metal gear just seems closer to reality with the graphics even if Crysis has better quality.

I just think I have problems with games that have really heavy shadowing, since I have never seen an extremely dark shadow or shading on a person in real life unless the light is directly overhead of them.

Edit: I guess Crysis has better shading then I remember. I still prefer the metal gear look of graphics though.
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#27 dunamistheou
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It still hasn't impressed me, be prepared for lack of AA and AF galore.
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#28 BloodMist
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The real question is.. "Will MGS4 be a better game than any PC game out?"

The answer to that is most probably YES! I am so looking forward to this. Best game series ever IMO

someone6669
Meh, Thief is still the best stealth series.Then again i love MGS for it's amazing storylines, and not so much for it's gameplay.
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#29 mrbojangles25
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I wouldnt know, all I have seen are those prerendered, non-realtime screenshots of the cutscenes.  No actual gameplay.
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I wouldnt know, all I have seen are those prerendered, non-realtime screenshots of the cutscenes.  No actual gameplay.mrbojangles25

Well, just saw some in game screenshots.  Definately looks pretty nice, and I am sure the gameplay will be exactly the same as before but with a few cool gimmicks (not necessarily a bad thing, either).  Crysis definately looks better, but thats just imo

Haha I quoted myself.  I feel so ashamed

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#31 Cranler
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[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]I wouldnt know, all I have seen are those prerendered, non-realtime screenshots of the cutscenes.  No actual gameplay.mrbojangles25

Well, just saw some in game screenshots.  Definately looks pretty nice, and I am sure the gameplay will be exactly the same as before but with a few cool gimmicks (not necessarily a bad thing, either).  Crysis definately looks better, but thats just imo

Haha I quoted myself.  I feel so ashamed

Can you give a link? I found these and the graphics look terrible. http://www.gameslave.co.uk/imageviewer.cfm?img=15830&title=Metal-Gear-Solid-4

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#32 Deamon321
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[QUOTE="Deamon321"][QUOTE="theking52"]Yeah I mean DX10 is already better than PS3 GPU which uses DX9. Correct me if I'm wrong...xxstalker24xx

yes but the ps3 is desighned to play games, nothing else. thats why it can run anything a PC can with such limited specs. IMO in a lot of ways it looks better than crysis because has anyone noticed that crysis literally looks liek crap in urban environments??? literally nothing looks good except the coastline and the jungle. Pay more attention to teh more urban screens to notice what im talkin about.

and have you seen Crysis in urban environments ?  no prob not becuase the only urban screenshots shown is just the engine not Crysis. So Crysis could be a hell of alot better.

Also Metal Gear Solid 4 looks like Splinter Cell Chaos Theory graphics nothing special

i ahve, there area lot of in game urbam screensots, search it if u dont beleive me.
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#33 gellis1981
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MGS4 looks great, but I haven't seen one single in-game footage of it... but it looks good. Until 2008 or whenever it comes out there will be plenty of PC games up to it's par like HL2 EP:2 looks good, Shadowrun, and then  Crysis !! :) 
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#34 sepheronX
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[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]I wouldnt know, all I have seen are those prerendered, non-realtime screenshots of the cutscenes. No actual gameplay.Cranler

Well, just saw some in game screenshots. Definately looks pretty nice, and I am sure the gameplay will be exactly the same as before but with a few cool gimmicks (not necessarily a bad thing, either). Crysis definately looks better, but thats just imo

Haha I quoted myself. I feel so ashamed

Can you give a link? I found these and the graphics look terrible. http://www.gameslave.co.uk/imageviewer.cfm?img=15830&title=Metal-Gear-Solid-4



They do not match up to many titles coming to PC, but they do indeed look pretty darn good.  Although, probably will run like dung, as the PS3 is known right now, not to have the greatest frame rates in a lot of their games.

MGS4 might be great, as I was pretty impressed with its previous titles (although, it IS indeed very patriotic, and kinda boring killing the same Soviets over and over again, oh my motherland, I am sorry...).  Lawl.
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[QUOTE="Deamon321"]yes but the ps3 is desighned to play games, nothing else. thats why it can run anything a PC can with such limited specs. IMO in a lot of ways it looks better than crysis because has anyone noticed that crysis literally looks liek crap in urban environments??? literally nothing looks good except the coastline and the jungle. Pay more attention to teh more urban screens to notice what im talkin about. BloodMist

Crysis is of course still under development, and we also haven't seen actual MGS4 gameplay, either.It could be like Motorstorm for all we know.

Actually you are wrong there are a few trailors that were taken from gameplay. The director of the game himself set up the camera angles and everything.

Also it looks good, but crysis does look better. Though i say wait and see untill both games are done because they will only become better.

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#36 hitman90
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actually PS3 uses Open GL sence it runs on Linux
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#37 Unstoppable_1
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Show me the game in front of a tv live and then i will judge and say if it's better or not. Nothing is finalized till you see it on your own tv screen. Many screenshots are touchened up to make them look better then the actual game.
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#38 onlineterrorism
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There is nothing stunning about MGS4's graphics. The only attractive appearance is the main character which is composed of high polygons. The environments in the game look similar to BF2's graphics.
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Crysis owns hands down. Enough said. The only good thing about MGS4 has going is Snake in high polygons. Crysis  MGS4
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Fanboy more and spew more crap Microsoft feeds you please. KTHXBYE!
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#41 ncderek
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this is very helpful

[QUOTE="onlineterrorism"]Crysis owns hands down. Enough said. The only good thing about MGS4 has going is Snake in high polygons. Crysis  MGS4

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#42 Skage44
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I dont understand why people like MGS so much, I tried MGS:3 it and thought it was terrible. I really tried to give it a chance and like the game, but I just couldnt. I played it for about 7 hours, most of which was just cutscenes and extremely long dialogue. The camera angle was horrible, and the gameplay was just flat out boring.
In my opinion the thief or splinter series are much better stealth games.

The graphics on MGS:4 do look last gen, and I already said what I think about the gameplay.  Crysis graphics look amazing, but I hope its not all graphics and no good gameplay.

And please no flames from the biased MGS fanboys.


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#43 someone6669
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And please no flames from the biased MGS fanboys.


Skage44
Grrr... I was about to flame you until I read this line :P No problems though, everyone has their opinion. For me, MGS is the best game series ever (although I never played MGS3, only MGS and MGS2)
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#44 mrbojangles25
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I dont understand why people like MGS so much, I tried MGS:3 it and thought it was terrible. I really tried to give it a chance and like the game, but I just couldnt. I played it for about 7 hours, most of which was just cutscenes and extremely long dialogue. The camera angle was horrible, and the gameplay was just flat out boring.
In my opinion the thief or splinter series are much better stealth games.

The graphics on MGS:4 do look last gen, and I already said what I think about the gameplay.  Crysis graphics look amazing, but I hope its not all graphics and no good gameplay.

And please no flames from the biased MGS fanboys.


Skage44

It seems like all games out of Japan (at least those popular in the US) are 2/3 cutscenes and dialogue/text, and only 1/3 interactive gameplay.

I know games like FF and MGS are popular, but I just fail to see why.  And I agree, the Splinter Cell games paly far far better, and the Thief games were truly awesome.  I think I would still rather play Theif 1 or Splinter Cell 1 than any of the MGS games, next-gen graphics or no.

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#45 mrbojangles25
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[QUOTE="Skage44"]And please no flames from the biased MGS fanboys.


someone6669
Grrr... I was about to flame you until I read this line :P No problems though, everyone has their opinion. For me, MGS is the best game series ever (although I never played MGS3, only MGS and MGS2)

What do you find so appealing?  I am not trying to give you any crap by the way, I am only curious.  You dont need to flame another game or post to support your own beleif, so please tell us.

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#46 arangadillo
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i dont mind cut sceens and/or reading text. i feel that it gives the game more depth. it reveales a story a lot more than being put in a world and only given a few basic guidlines. all games are linear, and require cut scenes and some kind of reading or something. what makes a game good is a game that can let you forget that. some games do a good job at it others... Perfect example is FFX. It doesnt get any worse than that game. A game that was linear but the story was done well that it didnt't seem like it is vagrant story, or zela a link to the past.
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I tried to make an oath after getting a 360 not to buy another console ever again and just stick with PC as I found my £350 had been totally wasted. But I have to play MGS4. Its the last MGS game so I can't bear myself to miss it.
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#48 Platearmor_6
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[QUOTE="ncderek"]this is very helpful

[QUOTE="onlineterrorism"]Crysis owns hands down. Enough said. The only good thing about MGS4 has going is Snake in high polygons. Crysis  MGS4



Jesus, could have gotten a bigger screen for Crysis.
But no great find I didn't realise there was THAT much detail on the weapons, you can practicaly read the small print.
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i don't really care about the graphics.....all i know is that i so want to play this game. :?
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#50 DGFreak
Member since 2003 • 2234 Posts
Is it just me or is MGS4 not coming out for a long time?