Okay, I've been active for a while now on this forum and it has come to notice that there are a lot of illegal requests out here. People asking for cracks, keygens and all kinds of stuff.
I'm so surprised by this... I mean, hey: Gamespot is a legal site. What makes you think people are gonna help you here? We all bought our software because we believe we need to support the game market. If anyone starts downloading no revenue is made and eventually the market is killed.
Look at it this way: I steal a big fat BMW, than I drive it through the city and park it in front of a pub. I go in and openly admit I just nicked the thing and now I want to know if someone can help me to change the chasis numbers. Who would do that!? Than why come to gamespot and ask for "chasis numbers" on games!?!? Really, I wanna know... are you that stupid?
We all bought our software?! He he he...J/K. The only cracks I know are the ones on the sidewalk. But seriously, the longer I'm here on gamespot, the more I notice that some people just like to do that "troll" thing. So, i'd agree with you there. Trolling seems to have become a game in itself for some people. Not that I can't see why it's catching on, after all, Trolling for the PC is freeware! :P And we all know how PC people love the free stuff.
[QUOTE="A-S_FM"]yeah, you only have to look at the writing styles of such posts, they're either children, foreign (as an englishman, it's my stalwart belief that all foreigners are stupid), or level 1 trolls looking for some fun
so, yeah, they are stupid R-Dot-Yung
why do you think anyone who uses crack or keygens is stupid
ok, i'll fess up - i didn't read the OP's post, just the topic line - but my assumption is that he does not feel that using keygens/cracks are illegal, but that asking for them on a mainstream legal gaming website is stupid, the topic would be locked and the account would be banned a cnet doesn't want to get into some legal feud over facilitating piracy
personally, i've illegally downloaded or otherwise illegally procured games - i generally oppose it, but if i'm not buying the game anyway (because it's not very good, as an example), i don't see the harm in bypassing copyright - which is in place to protect company profits - since there's no potential profit for them in me anyway - sure it's illegal, but it's not immoral... but if i liked the game enough, i'd go buy it anyway
yeah, you only have to look at the writing styles of such posts, they're either children, foreign (as an englishman, it's my stalwart belief that all foreigners are stupid), or level 1 trolls looking for some fun
so, yeah, they are stupid A-S_FM
I seriously hope you're joking about foreigners...
Okay, I've been active for a while now on this forum and it has come to notice that there are a lot of illegal requests out here. People asking for cracks, keygens and all kinds of stuff.
I'm so surprised by this... I mean, hey: Gamespot is a legal site. What makes you think people are gonna help you here? We all bought our software because we believe we need to support the game market. If anyone starts downloading no revenue is made and eventually the market is killed.
Look at it this way: I steal a big fat BMW, than I drive it through the city and park it in front of a pub. I go in and openly admit I just nicked the thing and now I want to know if someone can help me to change the chasis numbers. Who would do that!? Than why come to gamespot and ask for "chasis numbers" on games!?!? Really, I wanna know... are you that stupid? geitenvla
Well, no-cd cracks are nice to have even if you own the game. But I see your point. Although I'm not sure about the whole "illegal" thing. Different countries have different laws. I think Bill Gates said once that having a pirated version of Windows on your PC is not stealing, it's just immoral.
Well, yeah, it is completely stupid, but hey; there are gonna be people that can wait to get money, or want to help the gaming economy, and there are gonna be some that want games now & don't care how they obtain it.  now, hopefully some company or whatnot can find a way to actually crack down on game cracks, keygens, and all that other stuff, making it either risky, or overly hard to obtain these, thus making it more unattractive to new people, as well as those who have been using them for a while.  but it's all speculation, i suppose.
... I think Bill Gates said once that having a pirated version of Windows on your PC is not stealing, it's just immoral.artur79
Um, ....ahem, and the difference would be? Unless one is breaking the law in the name of justice (eg. a revolution, to protect and serve..etc. ) stealing is immoral. And by the way, are you kidding with that Bill Gates thing? He is the number one guy trying to prevent people from copying "anything" with his vaunted OSes.
If one feels something is wrong, "anywhere" in their heart, then it's wrong and one shouldn't do it. Of coarse, that only works for some people, there are a LOT of people who have no heart or conscience so I wouldn't know what to say about them. LOL.
hopefully some company or whatnot can find a way to actually crack down on game cracks, keygens, and all that other stuff, making it either risky, or overly hard to obtain these, thus making it more unattractive to new people, as well as those who have been using them for a while.  but it's all speculation, i suppose.
Game companies have been trying to do that for years. Just like anti-virus makers have been trying to stop viruses, there's always 1 that can get around the current security.
As long as there's an active community in cracking games there'll always be someone who can figure out how to get around the companies preventive measures.
Getting games and sotfware for free just destroys the purpose of making them. They can't make them without profit. Plus, one of my friend's Dad is a hackor and gets games for free, and I realize that they usually don't work very well anyway. If you can't just cough up a few bucks for a game/piece of software, thats just sad.
We all bought our software because we believe we need to support the game market.
geitenvla
Speak for yourself.
You are deluded beyound delusion. There's a lot more of those who get games illegally than those who buy them. The reason why people ask for illegal stuff on gamespot is because they know that there's always someone that will help them. Someone who wears the skull and bones. Sure this stuff might be illegal, you might be pissed, and many people DO buy games legally.... But this doesnt change the fact that piracy is here to stay, whether you like it or not. And "illegal" questions of forums will continue to be asked for as long as games will exist.
Thanks for the input pollyanna. without your moral guidance, I don't know what this 41 year old professional would do. and a couple of points. 1) very few people on this forum openly request stuff that empowers pirating-- the mods don't allow it. 2) thus, your post seems to be nothing other than a lame attempt to gain some kind of kudos from the mods, which I find rather bizarre that someone would care.
[QUOTE="artur79"]... I think Bill Gates said once that having a pirated version of Windows on your PC is not stealing, it's just immoral.1Lonehawk
Um, ....ahem, and the difference would be? Unless one is breaking the law in the name of justice (eg. a revolution, to protect and serve..etc. ) stealing is immoral. And by the way, are you kidding with that Bill Gates thing? He is the number one guy trying to prevent people from copying "anything" with his vaunted OSes.
If one feels something is wrong, "anywhere" in their heart, then it's wrong and one shouldn't do it. Of coarse, that only works for some people, there are a LOT of people who have no heart or conscience so I wouldn't know what to say about them. LOL. Um... I think there is a huge difference. Stealing is both illegal and immoral in most countries. Giving someone a link to a pirate-site is immoral, but it's not illegal. When Gates got the question: "Do you think piracy is a crime (=stealing)?", his response was that the whole thing is more nuanced and complex than just saying it's illegal. I don't have a link, it's an old interview, and his views on the matter might have changed, but I agree that it's a difficult question to answer. I'm glad most of you are against piracy, but I'm willing to bet most of GS-members have pirated software on their PCs. Are they all criminals?
There are many legal and ethical uses for cracks and keygens-- they can impower "fair use" copies, for example. They are a stopgap if you lose your CD key. They can also be simply an aid to run games without having to have the CD in the drive. Thus, your BMW analogy makes no sense. If you scratch your BMW, does BMW make you buy a whole new car?Â
 If you scratch your DVD of the latest $60 game, you are likely SOL with the return policy in place for the game companies-- they don't take them back. They want to have their cake and eat it to-- no turn policy for games, since they "might" have been copied-- yet seeking to prevent and illegalize consumers from producing personal fair use copies of games in the first instance. Â
So, i guess your post makes sense, if you don't consider that it is already against forum rules to make pirating tools available, and also completely forget about the legal and moral aspects of "fair use" copies and other issues above.  actually, I guess your point makes no sense.
[QUOTE="geitenvla"]Okay, I've been active for a while now on this forum and it has come to notice that there are a lot of illegal requests out here. People asking for cracks, keygens and all kinds of stuff.
I'm so surprised by this... I mean, hey: Gamespot is a legal site. What makes you think people are gonna help you here? We all bought our software because we believe we need to support the game market. If anyone starts downloading no revenue is made and eventually the market is killed.
Look at it this way: I steal a big fat BMW, than I drive it through the city and park it in front of a pub. I go in and openly admit I just nicked the thing and now I want to know if someone can help me to change the chasis numbers. Who would do that!? Than why come to gamespot and ask for "chasis numbers" on games!?!? Really, I wanna know... are you that stupid? Maxpowers_32
I use cracks and keygens all the time in order to get the use out of the games that I spent good $ on. I've bought a ton of games, and I can't stand hunting for the CD every time I want to switch games. Plus I have 4 computers in my house and play games with my brother and friends over the lan. Do you honestly think I'm going to buy 4 copies of every game so I can play against my friends in the house? One of the benefits of the PC is that you can play on different screens and don't need to do a split screen like with the consoles. If the games included spawned versions that would work over a lan without different cd keys and needing to put in a CD I wouldn't need to go to those sites. So their anti piracy technology has actually turned me over to piracy. You know that you can system-link consoles? That way you're able to play on two TVs.
Thanks for the input pollyanna. without your moral guidance, I don't know what this 41 year old professional would do. and a couple of points. 1) very few people on this forum openly request stuff that empowers pirating-- the mods don't allow it. 2) thus, your post seems to be nothing other than a lame attempt to gain some kind of kudos from the mods, which I find rather bizarre that someone would care.ElvisNixon
I come here everyday and there's at least 1 post a day about illegal activity. Yes that is "few". So, 1 everyday = 365 a year, is that enough to be annoying? Yes. However morally awful or not-so-awful you think piracy is has nothing to do with that fact that, by law, is illegal. Will you be prosecuted for downloading pirated software? Probably not. Can it happen? Yes. But games cost too much, isn't it justified? No, its stealing, you're a thief. But developers put out crap, so why should I pay for it? That's not an excuse to steal. If you were selling that computer of yours and someone decided "Its too much money for that piece of crap, i'll just STEAL it" you would think a little differently. Things change when its your property, huh?
What happens if they dont sell their product any more? Like... Total Anihilation for example that game came out in 97(?) It is not on sell :p Why cant i go download it?
[QUOTE="geitenvla"]Okay, I've been active for a while now on this forum and it has come to notice that there are a lot of illegal requests out here. People asking for cracks, keygens and all kinds of stuff.
I'm so surprised by this... I mean, hey: Gamespot is a legal site. What makes you think people are gonna help you here? We all bought our software because we believe we need to support the game market. If anyone starts downloading no revenue is made and eventually the market is killed.
Look at it this way: I steal a big fat BMW, than I drive it through the city and park it in front of a pub. I go in and openly admit I just nicked the thing and now I want to know if someone can help me to change the chasis numbers. Who would do that!? Than why come to gamespot and ask for "chasis numbers" on games!?!? Really, I wanna know... are you that stupid? gamergeek
shut up Such a strong response. You should be proud of your truly dizzying intellect.
Hell, this is one fuming post huh lol. In my opinion, how other poeple aquire games is their problem, not mine, so i dont worry about it. Simple huh. And i would stop thinking about loss of profit for gaming manufacture's (or however its spelt), because when a company release a game, the important money is made in the first week or so. After the month has gone, sales are relativly dead in comparison to the month of release. To be honest, PC games are probably the least illegally downloaded. Music, is the worst, but obviously know one cares, but for good reason, as pop artisits dont diserve money :). Movies, are another large problem, but again, most of the profit comes from the cinema and perhaps the first couple of weeks of DVD release. It may be imoral to illegally download software, files etc. But after the month of any new release, as i said before, i couldnt give a dam.
[QUOTE="ElvisNixon"]Thanks for the input pollyanna. without your moral guidance, I don't know what this 41 year old professional would do. and a couple of points. 1) very few people on this forum openly request stuff that empowers pirating-- the mods don't allow it. 2) thus, your post seems to be nothing other than a lame attempt to gain some kind of kudos from the mods, which I find rather bizarre that someone would care.godofratz
I come here everyday and there's at least 1 post a day about illegal activity. Yes that is "few". So, 1 everyday = 365 a year, is that enough to be annoying? Yes. However morally awful or not-so-awful you think piracy is has nothing to do with that fact that, by law, is illegal. Will you be prosecuted for downloading pirated software? Probably not. Can it happen? Yes. But games cost too much, isn't it justified? No, its stealing, you're a thief. But developers put out crap, so why should I pay for it? That's not an excuse to steal. If you were selling that computer of yours and someone decided "Its too much money for that piece of crap, i'll just STEAL it" you would think a little differently. Things change when its your property, huh? That's a very good point. There are a LOT of good points being said here "for" and "against" piracy it's true; and when the issue becomes not someone else's stuff, but your very own stuff, the perspective changes dramatically. I think to be true to one's self and not be or become a hypocrite, one should "treat others (and their "stuff") as you would have others treat you (and your "stuff")."
"For the foolishness of God is wiser than man's wisdom, and the weakness of God is stronger than man's strength." ( 1 Corinthians 1:25). Just to show where I get "my" wisdom from as personally, I don't have any. :)
[QUOTE="Maxpowers_32"][QUOTE="geitenvla"]Okay, I've been active for a while now on this forum and it has come to notice that there are a lot of illegal requests out here. People asking for cracks, keygens and all kinds of stuff.
I'm so surprised by this... I mean, hey: Gamespot is a legal site. What makes you think people are gonna help you here? We all bought our software because we believe we need to support the game market. If anyone starts downloading no revenue is made and eventually the market is killed.
Look at it this way: I steal a big fat BMW, than I drive it through the city and park it in front of a pub. I go in and openly admit I just nicked the thing and now I want to know if someone can help me to change the chasis numbers. Who would do that!? Than why come to gamespot and ask for "chasis numbers" on games!?!? Really, I wanna know... are you that stupid? artur79
I use cracks and keygens all the time in order to get the use out of the games that I spent good $ on. I've bought a ton of games, and I can't stand hunting for the CD every time I want to switch games. Plus I have 4 computers in my house and play games with my brother and friends over the lan. Do you honestly think I'm going to buy 4 copies of every game so I can play against my friends in the house? One of the benefits of the PC is that you can play on different screens and don't need to do a split screen like with the consoles. If the games included spawned versions that would work over a lan without different cd keys and needing to put in a CD I wouldn't need to go to those sites. So their anti piracy technology has actually turned me over to piracy. You know that you can system-link consoles? That way you're able to play on two TVs.
How do you do that? I have a PS3 and would love to play resistance on 2 TVs. My point though is that all these games ship with LAN support but they don't make it easy to install games to play on a LAN or joining the same game online without turning to online cracks. There is no way a family is going to buy more than one copy of a game so the kids can play together. It would be like making you buy a seperate copy of a movie for each person in the house that wanted to watch it.Â
fair point, but most of the general public are tight, and do not wish to see a peice of equipment worth $500 + go away for free. I hardly think it fair to compare a person with a net worth of about $5,000, (the rest of you is owned by a bank or the government), with a gaming manufacturer worth well over 1 million, who gain a resonable profit within a week or month.
Okay, I've been active for a while now on this forum and it has come to notice that there are a lot of illegal requests out here. People asking for cracks, keygens and all kinds of stuff.
I'm so surprised by this... I mean, hey: Gamespot is a legal site. What makes you think people are gonna help you here? We all bought our software because we believe we need to support the game market. If anyone starts downloading no revenue is made and eventually the market is killed.
Look at it this way: I steal a big fat BMW, than I drive it through the city and park it in front of a pub. I go in and openly admit I just nicked the thing and now I want to know if someone can help me to change the chasis numbers. Who would do that!? Than why come to gamespot and ask for "chasis numbers" on games!?!? Really, I wanna know... are you that stupid? geitenvla
nobody has ever asked for a crack or keygen in these forums...some prople may of have asked if there are anybody who will be willing ti give up a cd key......but most of them are for guildwars trial. i asked if anybody can help me sign up for a FEAR Combat.....but it FREE (somehow it was locked).....so this is stupid for makin this thread....nobody has ever asked for cracks or keygens
nobody has ever asked for a crack or keygen in these forums...some prople may of have asked if there are anybody who will be willing ti give up a cd key......but most of them are for guildwars trial. i asked if anybody can help me sign up for a FEAR Combat.....but it FREE (somehow it was locked).....so this is stupid for makin this thread....nobody has ever asked for cracks or keygens 1337_ownage
That is one of the most presumptuous things I've ever seen anyone say yet here on gamespot forums and it's incorrect at that. I've seen at least a few threads in my time here where people have asked for cracks or where to get them. How could you have even "thought" of saying that?! You've read every thread EVER here on gamespot?! LOL! :shock: :lol:
I know the intent of this topic is not to encourage said illegal activies, but you all must keep in mind the Terms of Use
"Illegal activity - Communications that violate or incite others to violate the law are not allowed. This includes, but is not limited to, asking for or providing: illegal copies of copyrighted software; methods of circumventing copyright protection; illegal copies of copyrighted music, movies, videos, or any other type of media; reprints of material from other web sites; or methods of cheating in online game" Therefore admiting to such activies here is going to get you in to trouble...
i find illegal downloads of games are good and bad. I think it's bad to download newly released games because ur ripping off the game developers that worked hard. It also has a good side because u can download old games that are hard to find and dont have to pay tons of money on ebay to own it.
Wow, I really unleashed something here... My only point of this discussion was: why do people turn to Gamespot to obtain cracks and stuff when most of us know this is not allowed to do so.
I made this thread, because over the passed few weeks I have seen douzens of requests on the subject and all got either locked or modderated. I was more or less interested in the persistence of some people here...
Wow, I really unleashed something here... My only point of this discussion was: why do people turn to Gamespot to obtain cracks and stuff when most of us know this is not allowed to do so.
I made this thread, because over the passed few weeks I have seen douzens of requests on the subject and all got either locked or modderated. I was more or less interested in the persistence of some people here... geitenvla
You gave my mouse finger quite a workout :P
I don't think you'll ever find an answer to your question and if you do I'd love to hear it as long as it's not #42 :) People ask about X material all the time here even when there is a sticky dedicated to it. People ask about hardware all the time even though there is a sticky explaining that this isn't a hardware forum :?
The best answer if I had to guess if they just think they can get away with it. Most of the people asking for such items tend to have less then 10 posts so that does seem to indicate that they are going around the internet just looking for a freebee or freebei.
Okay, I've been active for a while now on this forum and it has come to notice that there are a lot of illegal requests out here. People asking for cracks, keygens and all kinds of stuff.
I'm so surprised by this... I mean, hey: Gamespot is a legal site. What makes you think people are gonna help you here? We all bought our software because we believe we need to support the game market. If anyone starts downloading no revenue is made and eventually the market is killed.
Look at it this way: I steal a big fat BMW, than I drive it through the city and park it in front of a pub. I go in and openly admit I just nicked the thing and now I want to know if someone can help me to change the chasis numbers. Who would do that!? Than why come to gamespot and ask for "chasis numbers" on games!?!? Really, I wanna know... are you that stupid? geitenvla
and u are the perfect guy u buy every program and everything on your pc is genuine, even the mp3, avi's and other stuff, u own everything original even the smallest program. u own man u the man, man u got big cojones...
[QUOTE="geitenvla"]Okay, I've been active for a while now on this forum and it has come to notice that there are a lot of illegal requests out here. People asking for cracks, keygens and all kinds of stuff.
I'm so surprised by this... I mean, hey: Gamespot is a legal site. What makes you think people are gonna help you here? We all bought our software because we believe we need to support the game market. If anyone starts downloading no revenue is made and eventually the market is killed.
Look at it this way: I steal a big fat BMW, than I drive it through the city and park it in front of a pub. I go in and openly admit I just nicked the thing and now I want to know if someone can help me to change the chasis numbers. Who would do that!? Than why come to gamespot and ask for "chasis numbers" on games!?!? Really, I wanna know... are you that stupid? vojkec
and u are the perfect guy u buy every program and everything on your pc is genuine, even the mp3, avi's and other stuff, u own everything original even the smallest program. u own man u the man, man u got big cojones...
You my friend, you need a lesson in how to read questions... This not only applies to you, but to many here who posted in this thread. For the third time: I was only interested in why people turn to Gamespot to obtain such information.
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