KotOR - Oh, the memories!

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#51 ChiliDragon
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Yeah, I wonder when they're ever going to release it though. I'm beginning to think it's vaporware...gameguy6700
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Breathe... breathe...! Easy now. Download here. You're welcome. :) I aim to please... when I bother aiming at all ;)
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#52 shaneras
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I tried installing it recently on my Windows Vista 64-bit, but it didn't work. Is there is any patch or something that can fix this?

Anyway, this is probably one of my favorite games ever, it got me into RPGs and I never looked back. However, I think that KoToR 2 was a better game, although there were bugs and such. I just felt that the characters and storyline were darker and more varied than that of the original.

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I tried installing it recently on my Windows Vista 64-bit, but it didn't work. Is there is any patch or something that can fix this?

Anyway, this is probably one of my favorite games ever, it got me into RPGs and I never looked back. However, I think that KoToR 2 was a better game, although there were bugs and such. I just felt that the characters and storyline were darker and more varied than that of the original.

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Steam version of KOTOR with 64bit Windows7 works for me.

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#54 a_sh0pping_cart
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Damn, you guys beat me to the info! But here's the link again, anyway:

http://www.widescreengamingforum.com/wiki/WSGF_Hacks_for_SW:KOTOR

^ That should fulfill all your widescreen desires! I actually used the Steam version, because I don't want to fumble with discs. It was a bit more trouble getting to work in widescreen because you have to use an alternative launcher but everything came out great. I have to tab-out for cutscenes to start properly but nothing fatal to the game running stable.

To my surprise, the overall look of the graphics/visual effects was really impressive considering it's 7 years old. Just max everything out, AA, AF and res, it's like a new experience. At first, coming back to a game where the main character didn't really speak was sorta like having withdrawals, but I soon got over it and felt like it added to the "mystery" of the main character.

AHHHHH

the childhood memories

playing KOTOR for the first time was probably the best expirience in my life

so much fun and wonder

i envy people who have not played kotor yet...they have the best things ahead of them

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Most definitely.

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#55 NicotineKid
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Greatest game ever made in my opinion. And it also had the most addicting minigame, Pazaak.
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#56 dakan45
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Why oh why does Dakan have to wreck all good threads....

kozzy1234
This is what i said: "Ahh the memories, back then that bioware could actually make a good story with interesting and cool characters and awesome level design with some interesting planets. Then the begining of the end came with mass effect " I was praising kotor for being great and all and threw a sad :( moment with how things have come to be nowadays. yet i cant make that statement because someone will jump out to defend mass effect like it is as good as kotor. Sorry but i painfully dissagree mass effect is nowhere near as good as kotor and thats exactly the point and what grinds my gears. It is not, kotor is the proof that mass effect is not as great as they make it to be and i will say that.
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#57 ChiliDragon
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I have to agree with Dakan here. *ducks incoming flames and rotten fruit* :P There are very few RPGs that are as good as KotOR, and while Mass Effect is a very good game, but it's not among those few. I don't think I'm bashing Mass Effect by saying that, I really enjoyed playing that game. I just happen to think KotOR was a better game. If saying Game A is better than Game B automatically means bashing Game B, then a lot of reviewers do it every chance they get... :)
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#58 dakan45
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[QUOTE="ChiliDragon"]I have to agree with Dakan here. *ducks incoming flames and rotten fruit* :P There are very few RPGs that are as good as KotOR, and while Mass Effect is a very good game, but it's not among those few. I don't think I'm bashing Mass Effect by saying that, I really enjoyed playing that game. I just happen to think KotOR was a better game. If saying Game A is better than Game B automatically means bashing Game B, then a lot of reviewers do it every chance they get... :)

To be honest i dont think mass effect is a bad game, its just that from all the other games they have made, mass effect has to be the weakest one with the worst dialogue and maps/characters/gameplay i have seen in a bioware game. Now that sounds like bashing but its not. What i am saying is that it kinda frustrates me that people cant see that the work that has been put in the game is clearly inferior and put it up at the same state/rating as all the other bioware games. I mean come on, i am the only one who thinks its not as "epic" as the rest bioware games? (Example here beeing kotor that is a vastly superior game. But people react like kotor never existed and bioware has this as an "excuse" for making such an inferior game with alot of lackster in many things and they praise it as equal to mass effect when kotor has clearly done all those things much better.)
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#59 ChiliDragon
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In fairness, Mass Effect is still superior to most of the industry as far as plot and characters go. Bioware's games used to be so much better that what is average or just below average for them still is far above what several other companies can produce as far as RPGs go. Measured against others' standards, Mass Effect is a solid RPG with a great story and characters. Measured against previous Bioware RPGs like NeverWinter Nights, Jade Empire, and KotOR, it just doesn't reach as far. Woo! Bash! Bash! :D
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#60 dakan45
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[QUOTE="ChiliDragon"]In fairness, Mass Effect is still superior to most of the industry as far as plot and characters go. Bioware's games used to be so much better that what is average or just below average for them still is far above what several other companies can produce as far as RPGs go. Measured against others' standards, Mass Effect is a solid RPG with a great story and characters. Measured against previous Bioware RPGs like NeverWinter Nights, Jade Empire, and KotOR, it just doesn't reach as far. Woo! Bash! Bash! :D

I agree, excluding dragon age and the witcher ;) i consider both to be true master pieces rpgs that i cannot point out anything that shows that either the developers were bored or run out of ideas. But in mass effect, i dont know everything felt so empty and predictable and generic. mainly it did not have that "fire" or epicness. Only the intro and the ending where somewhat epic. But all the rest of dialogues felt borring to me without any sense or interesting quotes or any meanings, just blah,blah!! Same goes for the characters, i found Ashlee to be pretty meh, Bastilla all the way. Kaiden was pointless i did not care about him living or dying i did not care enough to pick him to a mission even joker was more imporant. The krogan was the average krogan, no characteristics nothing to care about. Liara was a poor version of mission in kotor and garrus was only cool beause i liked the looks of his race. Apart that his was just a security guard.
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#61 ChiliDragon
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But Dragon Age is from Bioware, so it doesn't count as "what other companies can produce" ;) Also, I'm enjoying Dragon Age more than Mass Effect so far, I like the combat better. You have my full agreement on The Witcher though. What a masterpiece that was! Now I have an urge to reinstall it and play it again. If only I wasn't still working on Dragon Age... I was going to give Vampire Bloodlines a second chance too. Ah, the constant agonies of being an RPG addict. What to play? What to play??? :shock: :P
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#62 dakan45
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[QUOTE="ChiliDragon"]But Dragon Age is from Bioware, so it doesn't count as "what other companies can produce" ;) Also, I'm enjoying Dragon Age more than Mass Effect so far, I like the combat better. You have my full agreement on The Witcher though. What a masterpiece that was! Now I have an urge to reinstall it and play it again. If only I wasn't still working on Dragon Age... I was going to give Vampire Bloodlines a second chance too. Ah, the constant agonies of being an RPG addict. What to play? What to play??? :shock: :P

Well i mean that while they did not do it with mass effect, they did it with dragon age, they still havent lost their touch ;)
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#63 ChiliDragon
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[spoiler] "Is there anything about Ferelden that you like?" "Well, you have these baked things. Like bread, but sweet." "Cookies??" "Yes. We have no such things in my land. This must be remedied." [/spoiler] Quoted from memory, because it was hilarious. :)
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#64 silverfire675
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The only thing that sucks right now is the fact that I've lent all my copies out to friends atm...=\

I don't think I'm getting them back...

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#65 TheShadowLord07
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The only thing that sucks right now is the fact that I've lent all my copies out to friends atm...=\

I don't think I'm getting them back...

silverfire675

you could use the force choke to threat them to get back your game.s

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#66 uas-2001
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Truly the best game on planet Earth. Seriously. 10/10 Perfect game. KOTOR 2 on the other hand...was an absolute disgrace. Damn you Obsidian! The fact that they are turning the series into an MMO is also sickening :x KOTOR 3 by BioWare is what we all need. But hey, argueing here ain't gonna do any good. But damn, I loved KOTOR. The duelling arena was awesome. Dead-eye duncan! Best guy ever :P Apparently it was cut from the original game but he survived Taris and you can meet him on Manaan :o
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#67 thebest31406
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This was my first western rpg. I haven't been able to bring myself to play a Jrpg since.

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#68 NLahren
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thx for great ss
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#70 KHAndAnime
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Nostalgia. Mass Effect is at least as good as KoTOR.
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#71 Lemonio
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no

mass effect has a very weak story and poor charachters

mass effect 2 was very good....much closer to the quality of kotor

however mass effect 2 was lots of great individual segments

it wasn't really unified in the way that kotor was

i think half life 2 is the only game that matches kotor, because its story is arguable even better

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#72 Staufenberg09
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Looking at those screenshots brought back some fond memories. I may very well have to start playing though it again.
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#73 StrawberryHill
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Makes me want to play this game again. I haven't played it since 2004. It's one of the few games that kept me hooked throughout its entirety...I couldn't put it down. I'm going to check out that screen rez app, OP.

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#74 Gr0wl
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Are there some patches or updates that can improve the gameplay and everything of the games ? Because I can't understand a thing from the link here to some site .

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#75 a_sh0pping_cart
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no

mass effect has a very weak story and poor charachters

mass effect 2 was very good....much closer to the quality of kotor

however mass effect 2 was lots of great individual segments

it wasn't really unified in the way that kotor was

i think half life 2 is the only game that matches kotor, because its story is arguable even better

Lemonio

I thought ME had a pretty good story, but wasn't really digging the characters too much.

ME2 had GREAT characters and I like their individual subplots, but I strongly agree that ME2 felt like several short segments rather than a whole. Maybe the whole Cerberus mission summary thing killed it. The planets' different sections didn't feel very cohesive.

I have my flamesuit ready but I strongly disagree with HL2. I like HL2, I beat it, but I don't get what all the fuss is with it. There's very little story in it compared to something like KotOR...I'm lost. :|

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[QUOTE="Lemonio"]

no

mass effect has a very weak story and poor charachters

mass effect 2 was very good....much closer to the quality of kotor

however mass effect 2 was lots of great individual segments

it wasn't really unified in the way that kotor was

i think half life 2 is the only game that matches kotor, because its story is arguable even better

a_sh0pping_cart

I thought ME had a pretty good story, but wasn't really digging the characters too much.

ME2 had GREAT characters and I like their individual subplots, but I strongly agree that ME2 felt like several short segments rather than a whole. Maybe the whole Cerberus mission summary thing killed it. The planets' different sections didn't feel very cohesive.

I have my flamesuit ready but I strongly disagree with HL2. I like HL2, I beat it, but I don't get what all the fuss is with it. There's very little story in it compared to something like KotOR...I'm lost. :|

Well, I don't quite get about the story, but the gameplay is pretty well polished in HL2. I think perhaps it is not necessarily the story of HL2, but the way in that it is told.

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#77 dakan45
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no

mass effect has a very weak story and poor charachters

mass effect 2 was very good....much closer to the quality of kotor

however mass effect 2 was lots of great individual segments

it wasn't really unified in the way that kotor was

i think half life 2 is the only game that matches kotor, because its story is arguable even better

Lemonio
From what i played, mass effect 2 is a bit better, but not as good as kotor....from what i played;)
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I loved KoToR, however I now have Mass Effect series. I feel the two ME games are some of the best this generation, if not overall.
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#79 Arach666
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[QUOTE="dakan45"][QUOTE="millerlight89"]Dakan please quite stating your opinions as facts, it is against ToS. It is getting really old.millerlight89
This are not my opinions, they are facts. Infact there are other users that can analyze why everything i said is true, i wont go into detail analyzing since there is no point in doing so but my opinion and the opinion of other users who also agree on those things are not against the ToS.

You are stating KoToR is better, with a better story etc. That is as if you are stating this as a fact, it is not. That is an opinion and you should not state it as a fact thanks bye.

I can´t believe that I´m saying this but,I have to agree with dakan on this one.

I feel that Kotor is better than ME/ME2 is almost every way possible,although that´s just my opinion,not a fact obviously.

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#80 millerlight89
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[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="dakan45"] This are not my opinions, they are facts. Infact there are other users that can analyze why everything i said is true, i wont go into detail analyzing since there is no point in doing so but my opinion and the opinion of other users who also agree on those things are not against the ToS. Arach666

You are stating KoToR is better, with a better story etc. That is as if you are stating this as a fact, it is not. That is an opinion and you should not state it as a fact thanks bye.

I can´t believe that I´m saying this but,I have to agree with dakan on this one.

I feel that Kotor is better than ME/ME2 is almost every way possible,although that´s just my opinion,not a fact obviously.

That is fine. I love the Star Wars universe. I loved the stories, however I like ME story better. This is an opinion of course. I just do not like how Dakan seems to think what he states = facts.
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#81 Arach666
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[QUOTE="Arach666"]

[QUOTE="millerlight89"] You are stating KoToR is better, with a better story etc. That is as if you are stating this as a fact, it is not. That is an opinion and you should not state it as a fact thanks bye.millerlight89

I can´t believe that I´m saying this but,I have to agree with dakan on this one.

I feel that Kotor is better than ME/ME2 is almost every way possible,although that´s just my opinion,not a fact obviously.

That is fine. I love the Star Wars universe. I loved the stories, however I like ME story better. This is an opinion of course. I just do not like how Dakan seems to think what he states = facts.

Yes,I know,that can be pretty anoying sometimes.
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#82 Nighteg
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Well, thanks to the author of this thread, i finished this game for the first time. A great ride! Not as epic as everyone say it is, maybe because of the dated graphics, or the frustration of trying to make it work on win7 64 bit, but a great game nevertheless. 7 years ago i would probably be much more impressed.

p.s. is KOTOR 2 just as good?

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#83 osan0
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brilliant game. im not a particular SW fan. i prefer star trek to be honest. but this was just a top notch game. even if you took all the SW stuff out it still remains a crackin game. the SW is just the icing on the cake. i also loved KOTOR2 but it was buggy as hell and it clearly wasnt finished.
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#84 Timbury
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[QUOTE="a_sh0pping_cart"]

gameguy6700

Ha i always loved the way those fishmen (Sorry forgot there name) Spoke!

Got this game originally on the Xbox hated it just couldn't get into it at all, later i got it on the PC wow i was blown away one of the best game experiences.

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#85 kozzy1234
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Playing thru this again and also Divine Divinity, two of my all time fav rpgs. Try to play them again once a year :P

Interested to try the mod for better resolution but i got steam version.

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#86 Lethalhazard
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I couldn't get into it because I don't know how to widescreen it. I got it on steam for like 3$ during some sale. It looks fun but some of it irritates me.
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#87 rollermint
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Nostalgia. Mass Effect is at least as good as KoTOR.KHAndAnime
In terms of presentation, Mass Effect is superior. And I do also think they have better maps. You do feel like you are playing an action-pack hollywood movie. In terms of characters and story/plots, I felt that KOTOR was better.
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#88 dakan45
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[QUOTE="Arach666"]

[QUOTE="millerlight89"] You are stating KoToR is better, with a better story etc. That is as if you are stating this as a fact, it is not. That is an opinion and you should not state it as a fact thanks bye.millerlight89

I can´t believe that I´m saying this but,I have to agree with dakan on this one.

I feel that Kotor is better than ME/ME2 is almost every way possible,although that´s just my opinion,not a fact obviously.

That is fine. I love the Star Wars universe. I loved the stories, however I like ME story better. This is an opinion of course. I just do not like how Dakan seems to think what he states = facts.

Sorry but that is a fact as much as morrowind > oblivion is a fact in this forum. ;) If no, then thats fine with me but let me not hear again similar stuff. Anyway kotor had a better story and characters and better planets and a combat system.
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#89 kozzy1234
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[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="Arach666"] I can´t believe that I´m saying this but,I have to agree with dakan on this one.

I feel that Kotor is better than ME/ME2 is almost every way possible,although that´s just my opinion,not a fact obviously.

dakan45

That is fine. I love the Star Wars universe. I loved the stories, however I like ME story better. This is an opinion of course. I just do not like how Dakan seems to think what he states = facts.

Sorry but that is a fact as much as morrowind > oblivion is a fact in this forum. ;) If no, then thats fine with me but let me not hear again similar stuff. Anyway kotor had a better story and characters and better planets and a combat system.

Morrowind >> Oblivion is an opinion, just as KOTOR >> ME is.

Everyone has there own opinions... OPINIONS, not facts.

To me ME1/2 and KOTOR1/2 are both awesome series and games. Oblivion not so much... but Morrowind, Daggerafll and Arena def.
Everyone has there own opinions, as much as I like Morrowind > Oblivion, I can admit its NOT A FACT, just opinion for myself.

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#90 dakan45
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I think i will just make a kotor and mass effect poll.
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#91 depend3ncy
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KOTOR = one of the worst games ever made. Even worse than ME1. Thank the combat

system which requires so little brain activity, its probably best to play the game while urinating and

only because urinating is a necessity.