KOTOR Vs. Mass Effect FACE Off

so after beating both games many times, i can finally make a fair comparison. so here goes.

KOTOR

-Can talk to party members at any point, and spark up conversations without having to be in a specific place.
-No tedious item gathering a la Gas & Mineral deposits
-Longer, at 30 - 40 hours
-Better voice acting, IMO

Mass Effect

-Better combat system & introduction of biotic powers is great
-Grandeur plot (reapers, WHERE DID THEY COME FROM OMFG)
-Tons of side quests, more then KOTOR

i gotta give it to KOTOR. it just feels more... alive. Mass Effect's voice acting leaves something to be desired. but, KOTOR is one hell of a game to live up to. Mass Effect is still my favorite WRPG this gen besides Fallout 3

I prefer ME.

ME for me but KotOR is close. KotOR didn't impress me much, except the well developed characters especially HK-47 :P and that desert level (don't remember the planet name) was also outstanding, I don't remember if it was in 1 or 2.

ME for me but KotOR is close. KotOR didn't impress me much, except the well developed characters especially HK-47 :P and that desert level (don't remember the planet name) was also outstanding, I don't remember if it was in 1 or 2.

DanielDust

Played through both. I gotta say, I like that KOTOR was longer, but I've already gone back and played through Mass Effect. I've already played through ME 3 times, and will be working on a 4th here pretty soon to get me worked up for ME2. I guess that means I like ME better if I've already played through it several times.Marfoo

I would say KOTOR somewhat decent, ME mediocre, so KOTOR winsnaval

[QUOTE="naval"]I would say KOTOR somewhat decent, ME mediocre, so KOTOR winsLeGoofyGoober

KOTOR always wins lol....but yeh kotor 1 was awesome......so far i donlt like kotor 2 as much

although i am really keen for the old republic MMO

While I like both games, KotOR's better in my view, despite itshorrible combat system. While ME does have a better combat system, it's not that great compared to most shooters (both those that are FPSes and 3PSes), and the side quests in it are all absolute crap. Every single one (ok, not EVERY single one ... more like 99% of them). One thing KotOR did really well was integrate every side quest into the main story, so that even if it wasn't directly related to it, it seemed that way. Or else they served a different purpose, such as character development of the NPCs. With most of ME's side quests, there's a complete disconnect between them and the main story (the latter of which is fantastic).They're all"let's go survey this planet here! find some minerals! collect some emblems and junk!" ... how much more MMOish can you get? Basically, the purpose of side quests in ME is to grind. That's it. And even those side quests that are somewhat related to the story (such as the Cerberus ones) seem more tepid. Part of it is due to the fact the inside of every building looks the same; but part of it is also because a lot of it is conveyed in text, rather than witnessed on-screen/heard through dialog (ie. you never actually see anyone from Cerberus other than random grunts, and just get text bubbles popping up when you finish the quest - though that sounds like it'll change for ME2). It's an inferior method of delivery considering thisis agame, not a novel.

And while I like the dialog system ME employs, and appreciate its cinematic quality, I do prefer having complete control over my dialog choices, actually knowing what my character says before they say it, even if I don't actually get to hear it. It's an RPG, after all.

Actually, regarding BioWare's recent games, I'd put it like this: KotOR > Jade Empire > ME. All three are great, though, and among my favorites ever.

kotor was way better than mass effect , ME was so linear its hard to call rpg , you have only few choises and not much of features =/

+ kotors story is way better than ME , but ME was still fun game ...

Well everything about Kotor was amazing. I've spent hundreds of hours playing that game.. Then again ME sucked some major donkey balls and had nothing good except some nice visuals so my vote goes to Kotor.Pessu

Short answer:

Story: KOTOR

Gameplay: ME

Morality: Equal

Long anwer: to lazy to make a wall of text :P

Kotor 30-40 hours? how did you you come up with that? .... i finished it in 4 days, 15 hours top with most of the quests solved.

they are both winner RPGs made by BioWare, so i can't really choose. i loved them both. maybe Mass Effect cos it looks so stunning. then again, it's 5 years newer than KOTOR, so ofcourse it looks better.

Mass Effect's voice acting leaves something to be desired.

LeGoofyGoober

i TOTALLY disagree with this. i think it was superb! better than KOTOR.

[QUOTE="naval"]I would say KOTOR somewhat decent, ME mediocre, so KOTOR winsLeGoofyGoober

KoTOR is better

ME for me but KotOR is close. KotOR didn't impress me much, except the well developed characters especially HK-47 :P and that desert level (don't remember the planet name) was also outstanding, I don't remember if it was in 1 or 2.

DanielDust

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[QUOTE="naval"]I would say KOTOR somewhat decent, ME mediocre, so KOTOR winsPhoenix6359

One of my two favorite games, it has to be a tie. I just can't decide.

Make it a poll, I vote KoTOR!!! Beat it multiple times, couldn't force myself to beat ME even once, though I do love the premise of the game. KOTOR just felt so much more alive to me.

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[QUOTE="naval"]I would say KOTOR somewhat decent, ME mediocre, so KOTOR winsPhoenix6359

No. This guy actually has a right to say those games suck. He's earned it. Just look at his collection. O_O

I haven't played ME, but KOTOR is pretty hard to top.

Kotor 30-40 hours? how did you you come up with that? .... i finished it in 4 days, 15 hours top with most of the quests solved.

Jinroh_basic

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[QUOTE="LeGoofyGoober"]

you just insulted two of the greatest WRPG's of all time. i'm intrigued, what games do you find "good."

naval

Mass Effect rules!

[QUOTE="naval"]

[QUOTE="Phoenix6359"]he probably thinks that cod 4 is the greatest game of all time or some other shallow game that has good graphics

LeGoofyGoober

PS :So you hate me ,lol, how I am gonna live now :lol:

If I have to choice thenI would say kotor since it has far better side quests

Another short and lazy answer:

KOTOR-Good
ME-Me wants my monies back! I got bored to death with this one it was fun for the first few hours but cut&paste areas, incredibly stupid ai, weak gunplay, lack of variations or reason to use other guns, why use the pistol when you have the assault rifle?

Winner: KOTOR

Bioware has yet to WOW me, the last time they did it was with Baldur's Gate (Arguable the best rpgs out there), oh why did Interplay go down,why WHY:cry:

M.E

so after beating both games many times, i can finally make a fair comparison. so here goes.

KOTOR

-Can talk to party members at any point, and spark up conversations without having to be in a specific place.
-No tedious item gathering a la Gas & Mineral deposits
-Longer, at 30 - 40 hours
-Better voice acting, IMO

Mass Effect

-Better combat system & introduction of biotic powers is great
-Grandeur plot (reapers, WHERE DID THEY COME FROM OMFG)
-Tons of side quests, more then KOTOR

i gotta give it to KOTOR. it just feels more... alive. Mass Effect's voice acting leaves something to be desired. but, KOTOR is one hell of a game to live up to. Mass Effect is still my favorite WRPG this gen besides Fallout 3

LeGoofyGoober

I prefer ME.

AdoringFan_

[QUOTE="Jinroh_basic"]

Kotor 30-40 hours? how did you you come up with that? .... i finished it in 4 days, 15 hours top with most of the quests solved.

LeGoofyGoober

The game is very easy. after i became a jedi ( a guardian ), i breezed through the game like a hot knife through butter. The race mini games are the only thing i missed out. 15 hours.

[QUOTE="LeGoofyGoober"]

so after beating both games many times, i can finally make a fair comparison. so here goes.

KOTOR

-Can talk to party members at any point, and spark up conversations without having to be in a specific place.
-No tedious item gathering a la Gas & Mineral deposits
-Longer, at 30 - 40 hours
-Better voice acting, IMO

Mass Effect

-Better combat system & introduction of biotic powers is great
-Grandeur plot (reapers, WHERE DID THEY COME FROM OMFG)
-Tons of side quests, more then KOTOR

i gotta give it to KOTOR. it just feels more... alive. Mass Effect's voice acting leaves something to be desired. but, KOTOR is one hell of a game to live up to. Mass Effect is still my favorite WRPG this gen besides Fallout 3

neo8888

I prefer ME.

AdoringFan_

[QUOTE="LeGoofyGoober"]

[QUOTE="Jinroh_basic"]

Kotor 30-40 hours? how did you you come up with that? .... i finished it in 4 days, 15 hours top with most of the quests solved.

Jinroh_basic

The game is very easy. after i became a jedi ( a guardian ), i breezed through the game like a hot knife through butter. The race mini games are the only thing i missed out. 15 hours.

Kotor most definetly,Mass Effect was a big flashy,steamy pile of generic BS if im being honest..and even then,i thought kotor was overrated a tad.