Left4Dead looks medicore

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#51 Jodan77
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Too bad neither of those are comparable to what Left 4 Dead is doing.

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You hit the nail on the head.

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#52 mayforcebeyou
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it looks alright, but it's being overhyped for being a valve game

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#53 Jodan77
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it looks alright, but it's being overhyped for being a valve game

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OBJECTION!

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#54 xipotec
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The closer release gets the less excited I get. The movement of the zomb's is way to fast and unrealistic. They seem to just pass right through each other (instead of bumping into each other) and it looks very fake to me. The way they swarm into a narrow hallway or run around in a closed space like ants, really turns me off. Its not the "running" that gets me , its they WAY they run. It looks like the dev's said "just throw them at them in huge numbers and see if they can coop enough to stay alive". I would have preferred a more strategic type of game , like the HL2 modes where you could barricade yourself in a room and then had to get our somehow. Am I making sense?

I always envisioned an objective based game, (could even have 2 teams competing against each other for limited supplies and ammo!)

Here's what i wish L4D was...

example :

OBJECTIVE BASED-> get in an hospital to get medical supplies, OR ammo OR save you buddy who is alone and outnumbered.

BUT FIRST you must barricade yourself in the hospital to prevent many more zombies from getting in,

THEN clear out the zombies in the hospital,

THEN get your supplies, friend whatever..,

THEN escape the hospital somehow and get to the next checkpoint.

I am tired so this may not make alot of sense...but its what I have been waiting for, and L4D doesn't sound like this anymore to me.

But wouldn't this be cool? Cannot be that hard to do. just a few tweaks and L4D could do this I bet. Kinda Team Fortress 2 and L4D combined.

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#55 Fire_Ants
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The closer release gets the less excited I get. The movement of the zomb's is way to fast and unrealistic. They seem to just pass right through each other (instead of bumping into each other) and it looks very fake to me. The way they swarm into a narrow hallway or run around in a closed space like ants, really turns me off. Its not the "running" that gets me , its they WAY they run. It looks like the dev's said "just throw them at them in huge numbers and see if they can coop enough to stay alive". I would have preferred a more strategic type of game , like the HL2 modes where you could barricade yourself in a room and then had to get our somehow. Am I making sense?

I always envisioned an objective based game, (could even have 2 teams competing against each other for limited supplies and ammo!)

Here's what i wish L4D was...

example :

OBJECTIVE BASED-> get in an hospital to get medical supplies, OR ammo OR save you buddy who is alone and outnumbered.

BUT FIRST you must barricade yourself in the hospital to prevent many more zombies from getting in,

THEN clear out the zombies in the hospital,

THEN get your supplies, friend whatever..,

THEN escape the hospital somehow and get to the next checkpoint.

I am tired so this may not make alot of sense...but its what I have been waiting for, and L4D doesn't sound like this anymore to me.

But wouldn't this be cool? Cannot be that hard to do. just a few tweaks and L4D could do this I bet. Kinda Team Fortress 2 and L4D combined.

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xipotec

I like your idea. I would like to see a game sorta like this.

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#56 ColdfireTrilogy
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"Maybe be a bit like how CounterStrike turned out." ---- CS1.6 still has 250k unique users playing each day??? that doesnt seem like thinning out to hardcore users imo since thats more than play FPS in general on brand new games.
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#57 Jodan77
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I am tired so this may not make alot of sense...but its what I have been waiting for, and L4D doesn't sound like this anymore to me.

xipotec

No One Said it would be like that from the start. If you want that kind of action, you should play Zombie Master or Zombie Panic. I personally love the game as it is, but don't give up hope entirely, since modders may be able to make maps/mods that recreate your experience.

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#58 lettuceman44
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The great thing about the game is how you play cooperatively with others to kill a huge mob of zombies.

How is that not great? (for people that like zombies that is)

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#59 -CheeseEater-
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I will certainly pick it up, but it's going to be tough to get me off TF2..
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#60 bonafidetk
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It looks ok. Its seriously over hyped by Valve fan boys though. I have all of valves catalogue, even still this doesnt excite me. Looks like valve are ripping off zombie panic source mixed in with resident evil.
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It looks ok. Its seriously over hyped by Valve fan boys though. I have all of valves catalogue, even still this doesnt excite me. Looks like valve are ripping off zombie panic source mixed in with resident evil.bonafidetk

....I see so these games/mods invented zombies? Guys your making it too big.. The concept is simple and it appeals to alot of people.. Its why zombie movies like Dawn of the Dead is so popular, that whole survivalist feel.. I have always wanted a Co-Op zombie/survival game to play with friends.. Its one of hte reasons why I use to play teh zombie infection maps so much in the counterstrike source modded servers..

You guys sound like there is numerous games for this.. But there ISN'T.. I can't think of any commercial game that is specifically co-op shooter trying to survive against some kind of dieaster, be it zombies, aliens etc etc.. To me this game is important, because it just doesn't EXIST aside from some mods that are good, but they get boring all too quickly..

It may not be REVOLUTIONARY.. But to me its unique due to the fact that there just ISN'T any shooters like this.. What so ever.. It being Valve is JUST a bonus.. Because Valve garentees a certain level of quality that usually satisfies most.. They support the mod communites.. AND more importantly they update their games immensely years after release.

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#62 Jodan77
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I have always wanted a Co-Op zombie/survival game to play with friends.. Its one of hte reasons why I use to play teh zombie infection maps so much in the counterstrike source modded servers..

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You guys sound like there is numerous games for this.. But there ISN'T.. I can't think of any commercial game that is specifically co-op shooter trying to survive against some kind of dieaster, be it zombies, aliens etc etc.. To me this game is important, because it just doesn't EXIST aside from some mods that are good, but they get boring all too quickly..

sSubZerOo

It being Valve is JUST a bonus.. Because Valve garentees a certain level of quality that usually satisfies most.. They support the mod communites.. AND more importantly they update their games immensely years after release.

sSubZerOo

Agree Agree Agree. Really I don't get how people say, "It's Just Another Zombie Shooter"... Come Again? I'm not aware of all these zombie shooters, Aside from Land of the Dead (AKA Bottom of the Barrel).I don't get how people can't think Valve+Zombies=Win. I think alot more people should be hyping this.

Mods Like Zombie Panic and Zombie Master don't even begin to touch Left 4 Dead. But who can blame them, they can't apply all those levels of Valve Polish.

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#63 kozzy1234
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This one guy on the forums today said Left4Dead will be horrible because its being made by an AMATEUR group of people, who make amateur games. :x
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#64 xipotec
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Don't get me wrong , I'll buy it and play it. I just wonder if it will keep me coming back the way TF2 does. Sure looks like some fun, but I think they need to add more to it then run and shoot to keep it interesting. Ya know like cod4 and setting the bomb. Just some varied gameplay so its not ALWAYS, run shoot survive kinda thing. Hopefully the modders will do it justice.

WHATS THE DEAL WITH THE BIKER , THEY CUT HIS HAIR>>HOW LAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He was to coolest looking one!

Now he looks like a pro wrestler.......LAME-O! (BTW this is a new pic)

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#65 Jodan77
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I personaly hate Zombie Panic maps that require you to do objectives, and find it more fun when you're just making a base. I get really bored of finding object A to Complete Objective B.

I think more objectives would slow the game down. Slow the Game down, and you no longer have Left 4 Dead. If you're not having fun running through a horror environment shooting zombies, something is wrong.

I'm sure Custom Maps will be made that incorporate that Objective junk. Maps I'll be sure to avoid.

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#66 xipotec
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So just run and shoot things then?

OK, either way I'll see you on the maps somewhere I'm sure.