Linux: 2 years later.

Could be a hardware fault (HDD?). Careful cause it might happen again.

Well if it does, I'll just replace the HDD lol.

Who are you trying to sell the idea of Linux to? Me or yourself?

I was mainly replying to your second quote. Was just pointing out that Manjaro doesn't really require you to go into the terminal to do everything. You are right in your first paragraph, no OS is break proof. I have had to reinstall linux a few times because I ended up breaking something :P

Uh, on linux you can easily send e-mails using command line, you can browse web pages also.

What do you mean personal side? I write scripts for work.

Nope

Personal side as from your point of view.

My point is about the general use of an OS across the spectrum. The majority wouldn't be writing scripts at home or work.

EDIT: Oh that's a different video than what I saw before. That's pretty cool actually that they fixed the performance. Well there's still the issue of playing the game at the moment. There tend to be a lot more bugs in Mac/Linux in the game. For something like two months, a map(I think it was cache) caused both Linux/Mac users to crash and Valve was just sleeping. Then there was the microphone pitch change which took them like a month to fix. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZvOIGn7R1s

All you get is matchmaking in Linux. I'm already global elite, there is nowhere for me to go. It's also flooded with spinbotters/obvious wall hackers. You need a third party system if you want to play against people who don't hack. Unfortunately Cevo/ESEA have lower skill levels than globals/smfc in MM, but at least they have a decent anti cheat system. Neither system can come to Linux since they require kernel level access and look for very specific things.

I was interested in Linux 10 years ago because of what I heard of it on tv and web. It never really worked for me until I found out Ubuntu that worked well without any thing to install such as drivers. But I never really understood how linux work. For me it just does not make any sense. The file system make no sense to me. Installing programs in command line is pure joke. But for the rest, it was same as Windows to me. Now I doubt I'd say it's the same or as good as Windows because I'm more aware of what I can do with Windows now. The thing I really liked but I do not need anymore and I could need in the future is the mutli desktop.

Also, software is easy to find with Windows. And the collection is large. I doubt it's the case with Linux. Linux user can't even make a exe like to install a software, what a joke.

And also, no point to use an OS that has only 20% of the games Windows have. This got to be a joke.

The major problem I have with Windows is about security. In my book Windows is a joke about security. So if Linux someday offer me security, I could move. But I hope it will install... Otherwise I'll need a tech.

Btw, if you're happy with your Linux distro, than good for you. I'd say even, keep it.

Windows:

find out about a program

google it

download it from cnet or sourceforge

open downloads folder

double click to install

click yes in administrative prompt

click next next next in wizard

accidentally install browser addon like ask.

Linux

find out about a program

google it

type apt-get install "program name" (yum, pacman etc depending on distro)

As much as I hate to say it, Ubuntu, and many of it's derivatives are the real jokes of the linux world. Ubuntu is the big player of linux, yet you STILL have to **** around with PPA's if you want a version of ANY app that is less than 6+ months old. and installing crap through the command line is often mandatory. It's no where near as easy to use as people claim. Mint and Ubuntu were not kind to me when I first used linux. **** Ubuntu until they make it good enough to compete with Windows, and Mac.

I can't be bothered with reading all the posts in this thread, but 1 239 games for Linux on Steam, woooo. That is more than the Xbox One and the PlayStation 4 combined, and that is exactly the market that Valve is going for with SteamOS and Steam Machines. I already can't keep up!

Agreed. I love how everyone is just arrogantly dismissing the Steam Machines, saying it has no games, and that they should just use Windows, maybe because that would make them WAY more expensive?. Um, you guys realize Linux now has over 1200 games (up from like 150 when Steam first came to Linux), and still increasing rapidly. Sorry, but competition is a good thing weather the nay-sayers like it or not, and Windows, as well as the consoles simply don't have enough of it.

What's funny is that Quake Live was for Linux, Mac, and WIndows. About a year ago they removed support for Mac and Linux. Quake is one of the few games where a good number of people played on Linux(it attracts neckbeards).

Id leading the future as usual, along with 60fps caps on pc games(wolfenstein, rage), and a soon to be dead company.

Because id/John Carmack knows everything :)

Bought Shadow Warrior for Linux today, performance is really good on the open source AMD drivers, could be better, but it's far better than what I was expecting, they are really coming along.

http://distrochooser.de/?l=2

Also found this. This may help people choose a distro that is right for them.

Here is a nice video review of Shadow Warrior by a Linux gamer:

Also, make sure you have the latest version of Linux and Mesa when using AMD's open source driver.

Awesome review. Manjaro always keeps Mesa, and drivers up-to-date.

Well I just put Debian 8 on the pc next to mine, and I have some good and bad things to say. WIth the Mate desktop it is very fast. It uses substantially less memory than WIndows 7, 8, and 10.

Unrelated: I tried WIndows 10 on this pc and it was a miserable experience. Windows 7 was fine, windows 8 was eh.

This system has an e3200 at 3.5ghz, 2 gigs of ram, and a 120gb ssd.

Debian uses around 400-500 megs of ram. Windows 10 ran so horrendously and ate all the ram doing nothing. Windows 10 is a garbage OS so far based on what I've used. It does so many processes in the background without telling you anything. It was running Windows update in the background but there were no notifications in the taskbar, it was also doing an av scan at the same time without letting me know. There is nothing in the taskbar. The startmenu is horrendous, I removed all the tiles so I could try to get it as small as possible but even when I tried to drag it all the way it wouldn't go all the way. I just had a bunch of empty gray space.

Virtualbox couldn't be installed either, and the spartan web browser doesn't show how fast you're downloading a file.

I am getting off track, but I felt like I needed to mention that.

Performance with Debian and Mate desktop is great. I even got the nvidia drivers installed with no issues by adding the non-free repo and just ran a command to create a new xorg file with the nvidia drivers instead of noveau. Rebooted and all went well. (The system has a gtx 670).

However some downsides. I wanted to create a raid 5 array with mdadm. However I wanted to avoid using the command line as much as possible for this. Gnome-disk-utility has been totally ruined in the latest version. It cannot do anything anymore. https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/1lgxya/what_happened_to_raid_configuration_in_gnome_disks/

So I couldn't do it through gnome-disk-utility anymore. So I tried to install the old versions and of course I ran into dependency hell. Luckily I found this post here http://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/1228

His suggestions almost worked till the very end when I tried installing it and I got a problem where my nautilus version was too new for the program to be installed. I could not find a deb of the older nautilus libraries. I was getting really pissed, so I just tried to force install it, by doing this

dpkg --install --force-depends --recursive /home/administrator/Downloads

And it worked.

The reason I am using Linux is because Windows software raid 5 is not possible in WIndows 7 and WIndows 8. And the avermedia program I want to use does not work in Windows server 2008 r2 and 2012. I tried storage spaces in WIndows 8 and I got a laughable 25 MB/s for write speeds.

To sum it all up, I hate every os.

Every OS is icky poo poo!

I felt the same way about Windows 8. Which is why I don't give a shit about 10.

No, you just always look at the negative things of each OS instead of the positive things (which are more than the negative). No wonder you don't enjoy them.

gog.com's linux game library has become fairly sizable. Love that you don't NEED to be using Mint or Ubuntu to play the games, they come in tar balls, you extract them, and click the "start" file, and the game starts up no problem.

GOG is getting better, but still...

Yeah, could be better. GoG has some catching up to do with Steam.