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#1 xgamer40
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Alright I'm looking to get a new gaming PC, this will also be my first gaming PC, it needs to be under/around $1000 and I'm looking to get these parts. My goal mainly is to play Crysis on high-very high averaging about 35-40 FPS.

CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 CPU @ 3.0GHz 1333FSB 6MB L2 Cache 64-bit

MOTHERBOARD: Asus P5N-E nForce 650i SLI Chipset LGA775 FSB1333 DDR2 Mainboard

MEMORY: 2GB (2x1GB) PC6400 DDR2/800 Dual Channel Memory

PSU: 600 Watts Power Supply

GPU: NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GTX 512MB 16X PCI Express

I'm mainly on edge about the CPU and the GPU, I'm thinking I could possibly lower the price somewhat by changing the CPU to a E6850 without too much of a difference, and I've heard many things about ATI's 4850 being very powerful but cheaper than most of NVIDIA's cards. Any suggestions, or does this look good? The total came to around 990 dollars. Thanks in advance.

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#2 Luminouslight
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What is your OS?
Do you have a Case?
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What is your OS?
Do you have a Case?
Luminouslight

Slightly late response but here they are

CASE: Sigma Gaming Orca Mid-Tower 400W Case

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811226001

OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium w/ Service Pack 1 (32-bit Edition)

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[QUOTE="Luminouslight"]What is your OS?
Do you have a Case?
xgamer40

Slightly late response but here they are

CASE: Sigma Gaming Orca Mid-Tower 400W Case

*NewEgg URL*

OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium w/ Service Pack 1 (32-bit Edition)

The minimum PSU you need for a 9800GTX is 450W. Therefore, that means you need a 500W+ to be on the safe side. Basically, your computer is useless with that PSU at the moment, better go back to finding another one.

If you can go for the ATI 4870 or 4850 whichever suits you - the earlier comes out June 25th. Keep the CPU ten times better than the E6xxx series.

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#5 Luminouslight
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[QUOTE="xgamer40"]

[QUOTE="Luminouslight"]What is your OS?
Do you have a Case?
Taiko88

Slightly late response but here they are

CASE: Sigma Gaming Orca Mid-Tower 400W Case

*NewEgg URL*

OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium w/ Service Pack 1 (32-bit Edition)

The minimum PSU you need for a 9800GTX is 450W. Therefore, that means you need a 500W+ to be on the safe side. Basically, your computer is useless with that PSU at the moment, better go back to finding another one.

If you can go for the ATI 4870 or 4850 whichever suits you - the earlier comes out June 25th. Keep the CPU ten times better than the E6xxx series.

The 4850 has been released. Also, 450 watts is the recommended, you don't really need that much if you have good enough a 12 rail.

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#6 xgamer40
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[QUOTE="xgamer40"]

[QUOTE="Luminouslight"]What is your OS?
Do you have a Case?
Taiko88

Slightly late response but here they are

CASE: Sigma Gaming Orca Mid-Tower 400W Case

*NewEgg URL*

OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium w/ Service Pack 1 (32-bit Edition)

The minimum PSU you need for a 9800GTX is 450W. Therefore, that means you need a 500W+ to be on the safe side. Basically, your computer is useless with that PSU at the moment, better go back to finding another one.

If you can go for the ATI 4870 or 4850 whichever suits you - the earlier comes out June 25th. Keep the CPU ten times better than the E6xxx series.

In my first post I stated I'm getting myself a 600W PSU, so no problems there I think. I know for sure I won't want a 4870, too much money, but a 4850, is it really better? I'm more fond of NVIDIA cards but I'm willing to make the switch if it really is that much better.And thats good to hear about the CPU. Thanks now and in advance.

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#7 xgamer40
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[QUOTE="Taiko88"][QUOTE="xgamer40"]

[QUOTE="Luminouslight"]What is your OS?
Do you have a Case?
Luminouslight

Slightly late response but here they are

CASE: Sigma Gaming Orca Mid-Tower 400W Case

*NewEgg URL*

OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium w/ Service Pack 1 (32-bit Edition)

The minimum PSU you need for a 9800GTX is 450W. Therefore, that means you need a 500W+ to be on the safe side. Basically, your computer is useless with that PSU at the moment, better go back to finding another one.

If you can go for the ATI 4870 or 4850 whichever suits you - the earlier comes out June 25th. Keep the CPU ten times better than the E6xxx series.

The 4850 has been released. Also, 450 watts is the recommended, you don't really need that much if you have good enough a 12 rail.

So wait, (bear with me I'm not too tech savvy at all, sorry) the vibe I'm getting is that I can't just buy a 600W PSU and switch it out for the one in the case I'm getting? Thats what it sounds like you two are telling me. A noob question but its needed to be asked.

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#8 pieatorium
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[QUOTE="Taiko88"][QUOTE="xgamer40"]

[QUOTE="Luminouslight"]What is your OS?
Do you have a Case?
xgamer40

Slightly late response but here they are

CASE: Sigma Gaming Orca Mid-Tower 400W Case

*NewEgg URL*

OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium w/ Service Pack 1 (32-bit Edition)

The minimum PSU you need for a 9800GTX is 450W. Therefore, that means you need a 500W+ to be on the safe side. Basically, your computer is useless with that PSU at the moment, better go back to finding another one.

If you can go for the ATI 4870 or 4850 whichever suits you - the earlier comes out June 25th. Keep the CPU ten times better than the E6xxx series.

In my first post I stated I'm getting myself a 600W PSU, so no problems there I think. I know for sure I won't want a 4870, too much money, but a 4850, is it really better? I'm more fond of NVIDIA cards but I'm willing to make the switch if it really is that much better.And thats good to hear about the CPU. Thanks now and in advance.

4850 vs 9800gtx isn't a lot of difference its slightly in favour of the ATI card, but the 4850s are already dropping to under $190 (US) on some deals so the price is also slightly in there favour.

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#9 pieatorium
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[QUOTE="Luminouslight"][QUOTE="Taiko88"][QUOTE="xgamer40"]

[QUOTE="Luminouslight"]What is your OS?
Do you have a Case?
xgamer40

Slightly late response but here they are

CASE: Sigma Gaming Orca Mid-Tower 400W Case

*NewEgg URL*

OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium w/ Service Pack 1 (32-bit Edition)

The minimum PSU you need for a 9800GTX is 450W. Therefore, that means you need a 500W+ to be on the safe side. Basically, your computer is useless with that PSU at the moment, better go back to finding another one.

If you can go for the ATI 4870 or 4850 whichever suits you - the earlier comes out June 25th. Keep the CPU ten times better than the E6xxx series.

The 4850 has been released. Also, 450 watts is the recommended, you don't really need that much if you have good enough a 12 rail.

So wait, (bear with me I'm not too tech savvy at all, sorry) the vibe I'm getting is that I can't just buy a 600W PSU and switch it out for the one in the case I'm getting? Thats what it sounds like you two are telling me. A noob question but its needed to be asked.

Unless the case is some sort of bizzare creation that has been built around thae psu (It wont be) then swapping in the new psu will be easy.

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You can remove the included power supply and replace it with the 600W one.
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#11 xgamer40
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[QUOTE="xgamer40"][QUOTE="Luminouslight"][QUOTE="Taiko88"][QUOTE="xgamer40"]

[QUOTE="Luminouslight"]What is your OS?
Do you have a Case?
pieatorium

Slightly late response but here they are

CASE: Sigma Gaming Orca Mid-Tower 400W Case

*NewEgg URL*

OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium w/ Service Pack 1 (32-bit Edition)

The minimum PSU you need for a 9800GTX is 450W. Therefore, that means you need a 500W+ to be on the safe side. Basically, your computer is useless with that PSU at the moment, better go back to finding another one.

If you can go for the ATI 4870 or 4850 whichever suits you - the earlier comes out June 25th. Keep the CPU ten times better than the E6xxx series.

The 4850 has been released. Also, 450 watts is the recommended, you don't really need that much if you have good enough a 12 rail.

So wait, (bear with me I'm not too tech savvy at all, sorry) the vibe I'm getting is that I can't just buy a 600W PSU and switch it out for the one in the case I'm getting? Thats what it sounds like you two are telling me. A noob question but its needed to be asked.

Unless the case is some sort of bizzare creation that has been built around thae psu (It wont be) then swapping in the new psu will be easy.

OK I thought so, I was just getting confused for a minute, thanks very much. And the 4850 is starting to sound like a better deal although is there any comparison of the two cards showing average FPS's while running certain games?

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#12 Taiko88
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[QUOTE="Taiko88"][QUOTE="xgamer40"]

[QUOTE="Luminouslight"]What is your OS?
Do you have a Case?
Luminouslight

Slightly late response but here they are

CASE: Sigma Gaming Orca Mid-Tower 400W Case

*NewEgg URL*

OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium w/ Service Pack 1 (32-bit Edition)

The minimum PSU you need for a 9800GTX is 450W. Therefore, that means you need a 500W+ to be on the safe side. Basically, your computer is useless with that PSU at the moment, better go back to finding another one.

If you can go for the ATI 4870 or 4850 whichever suits you - the earlier comes out June 25th. Keep the CPU ten times better than the E6xxx series.

The 4850 has been released. Also, 450 watts is the recommended, you don't really need that much if you have good enough a 12 rail.

I know the 4850 has been released, hence why I said the earlier and not both or the latter are going to be released on June 25th. Also if you know anything about computers, you know that when saying 450 is minimum it does not all go to the GPU, there are other factors that decide the PSU and it is always good to go over, no matter the rails. Do your research. And if you ever want to OC anything you will still need a more powerful PSU. He can go ahead and get the minimum, but his computer won't be performing at 100% or close to.

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#13 pieatorium
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OK I thought so, I was just getting confused for a minute, thanks very much. And the 4850 is starting to sound like a better deal although is there any comparison of the two cards showing average FPS's while running certain games?

xgamer40

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3338&p=1

pretty comprehensive reveiw here but basically the performance is pretty close with a slight advantage to the 4850 pretty much accross the board.