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Maybe they WANT PC gamers to play with keyboard and mouse because the UI is designed like that?[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="Mr_Ditters"]
This.
Some Bioware dev (with ME2 I think) made some sarcastic comments about how they can't accomodate every possible control scheme out there and how he would love to have support for his 1980's trackball. What an anus.
I mean come on its a flipping gamepad, which you have already configured for consoles. They could pay some kid programmer minimum wage to do this, but with Bioware and their PC ports its always the least common denominator.
Krelian-co
I'm not being a fanboy. Do YOU know for sure WHY they haven't added gamepad support for the last 3 Mass Effects? No, so we are all guessing here.
lets take your fanboy glasses off for a moment:
a. in this day and age where every game even on pc has gamepad support: no, not every game has it.
b. they are releasing the game in other 2 consoles, the ui and controller setup is already done: so let's add keyboard and mouse support on the consoles as well hey, just cause it's done for the PC?
c. whats wrong with having more options, some games are good with kg/b others with gamepads: nothing wrong with having options, but if u cared to read through ALL my posts I said some games work best with gamepads, others work best with KB/M, others work great with BOTH. It's obvious that Mass Effect on PC works better with KB/M.
d. lol at "optimized" whn they are releasing the game to 2 consoles, they already have it optimized for them, in terms of coding it shouldn't be hard to do. It's isn't hard to do, it's a design decision imo.
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Why in the world would someone buy a PC just to play with a controller.
ChubbyGuy40
Some people have disabilities and playing with a controller is easier for them.
Douche.
That is true, but if u knew u had a disability and needed to use a controller, then wouldn't you invest in a console where you know the gamepad is better optimized on all games? PS: keep the insults to yourself.[QUOTE="Krelian-co"]
[QUOTE="FelipeInside"] Maybe they WANT PC gamers to play with keyboard and mouse because the UI is designed like that?FelipeInside
I'm not being a fanboy. Do YOU know for sure WHY they haven't added gamepad support for the last 3 Mass Effects? No, so we are all guessing here.
lets take your fanboy glasses off for a moment:
a. in this day and age where every game even on pc has gamepad support: no, not every game has it.
b. they are releasing the game in other 2 consoles, the ui and controller setup is already done: so let's add keyboard and mouse support on the consoles as well hey, just cause it's done for the PC?
c. whats wrong with having more options, some games are good with kg/b others with gamepads: nothing wrong with having options, but if u cared to read through ALL my posts I said some games work best with gamepads, others work best with KB/M, others work great with BOTH. It's obvious that Mass Effect on PC works better with KB/M.
d. lol at "optimized" whn they are releasing the game to 2 consoles, they already have it optimized for them, in terms of coding it shouldn't be hard to do. It's isn't hard to do, it's a design decision imo.
yes a design decision to be lazy, not adding options for not coding something thats already done its not a "design" choise, its not wanting to work
and who are you exactly to tell people if its best played with keyboard/mouse or gamepad? thats personal choise, a choise the game should be able to give in the first place.
as far as i know consoles can't play games with keyboard and mouse, but i guess you had to do the dumb analogy to try and prove a point, and if they could why not?
seriously, i bet you call the dragon age 2 reuse of dungeons a "design decision" too, lol. and yes, we have heard the "im no fanboy but i will say anything to defend them" thing so many times in this forum.
[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]
[QUOTE="Krelian-co"]
I'm not being a fanboy. Do YOU know for sure WHY they haven't added gamepad support for the last 3 Mass Effects? No, so we are all guessing here.
lets take your fanboy glasses off for a moment:
a. in this day and age where every game even on pc has gamepad support: no, not every game has it.
b. they are releasing the game in other 2 consoles, the ui and controller setup is already done: so let's add keyboard and mouse support on the consoles as well hey, just cause it's done for the PC?
c. whats wrong with having more options, some games are good with kg/b others with gamepads: nothing wrong with having options, but if u cared to read through ALL my posts I said some games work best with gamepads, others work best with KB/M, others work great with BOTH. It's obvious that Mass Effect on PC works better with KB/M.
d. lol at "optimized" whn they are releasing the game to 2 consoles, they already have it optimized for them, in terms of coding it shouldn't be hard to do. It's isn't hard to do, it's a design decision imo.
Krelian-co
yes a design decision to be lazy, not adding options for not coding something thats already done its not a "design" choise, its not wanting to work
and who are you exactly to tell people if its best played with keyboard/mouse or gamepad? thats personal choise, a choise the game should be able to give in the first place.
as far as i know consoles can't play games with keyboard and mouse, but i guess you had to do the dumb analogy to try and prove a point, and if they could why not?
seriously, i bet you call the dragon age 2 reuse of dungeons a "design decision" too, lol. and yes, we have heard the "im no fanboy but i will say anything to defend them" thing so many times in this forum.
Guess u still haven't learned to read my posts.
Where did I say that? I said that the devs have a right to choose which control method works best on their game depending on the system.
Dumb Analogy you say...?
Yep, cause of course you only read the posts where I say good things about BioWare. I guessed you missed all my posts where I've said bad things hey? Selective reading I see...
from what i hear bioware is preventing that from happening. i think they encrpyt the ini filesI'm sure a user generated patch will be submitted sometime down the line that will enable gamepad usage.
BurntWithWater
[QUOTE="Krelian-co"]
[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]
FelipeInside
yes a design decision to be lazy, not adding options for not coding something thats already done its not a "design" choise, its not wanting to work
and who are you exactly to tell people if its best played with keyboard/mouse or gamepad? thats personal choise, a choise the game should be able to give in the first place.
as far as i know consoles can't play games with keyboard and mouse, but i guess you had to do the dumb analogy to try and prove a point, and if they could why not?
seriously, i bet you call the dragon age 2 reuse of dungeons a "design decision" too, lol. and yes, we have heard the "im no fanboy but i will say anything to defend them" thing so many times in this forum.
Guess u still haven't learned to read my posts.
Where did I say that? I said that the devs have a right to choose which control method works best on their game depending on the system.
Dumb Analogy you say...?
Yep, cause of course you only read the posts where I say good things about BioWare. I guessed you missed all my posts where I've said bad things hey? Selective reading I see...
wrong, a good developer let the user choose. as for the rest of the post im not gonna bother
[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]
[QUOTE="Krelian-co"]
yes a design decision to be lazy, not adding options for not coding something thats already done its not a "design" choise, its not wanting to work
and who are you exactly to tell people if its best played with keyboard/mouse or gamepad? thats personal choise, a choise the game should be able to give in the first place.
as far as i know consoles can't play games with keyboard and mouse, but i guess you had to do the dumb analogy to try and prove a point, and if they could why not?
seriously, i bet you call the dragon age 2 reuse of dungeons a "design decision" too, lol. and yes, we have heard the "im no fanboy but i will say anything to defend them" thing so many times in this forum.
Krelian-co
Guess u still haven't learned to read my posts.
Where did I say that? I said that the devs have a right to choose which control method works best on their game depending on the system.
Dumb Analogy you say...?
Yep, cause of course you only read the posts where I say good things about BioWare. I guessed you missed all my posts where I've said bad things hey? Selective reading I see...
wrong, a good developer let the user choose. as for the rest of the post im not gonna bother
Even if it's worse for the game? Right. (not talking specifically about ME3 here).
Cause I'm right, ok.
It's fine. Everyone complains. Then I have a different view on things and I'm a fanboy. I understand how this works now.
from what i hear bioware is preventing that from happening. i think they encrpyt the ini files wat That bothers me way more than some gamepad issue. No tweaking our game!![QUOTE="BurntWithWater"]
I'm sure a user generated patch will be submitted sometime down the line that will enable gamepad usage.
TheShadowLord07
Given the fact that it's also released on consoles, it makes no sense whatsoever for ME3 to not support gamepads on PC. Unacceptable.
xxxLUGZxxx
A controller is inferior to M&K in every aspect...there isnt a SINGLE thing about a gamepad which can match the M&B...however many people like the gamepad over the M&B but that dosent mean nothing...
So why would be unacceptable?Because they dont include a feature which is obsolete,unpractical,inferior???
[QUOTE="TheShadowLord07"]from what i hear bioware is preventing that from happening. i think they encrpyt the ini files wat That bothers me way more than some gamepad issue. No tweaking our game!! i cant find the post in neogaf.so it might not be true. but i did heard something is encrypt. sorry if I gave you a heart attack[QUOTE="BurntWithWater"]
I'm sure a user generated patch will be submitted sometime down the line that will enable gamepad usage.
MyopicCanadian
[QUOTE="Mr_Ditters"]
[QUOTE="LordRork"]
It's the kinds of game I use KB/M for anyway, but it seems a little odd that there isn't an option - as already said, there's a 360 version...!
FelipeInside
Why in the world would someone buy a 360 just to play mass effect with a controller? Yeah or--as already said-- they could just put controller support into their game instead of cutting corners.
Funny how smaller developers can add controller support for their ports, but Bioware can't. Its just an example of how PC takes a back seat with them. I especially loved the low res cutscenes they use because they don't feel like making their cutscenes 1080p--just use the console resolution and port it over.
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Why in the world would someone buy a PC just to play with a controller.
FelipeInside, my friend, Personal Computer (called this for a reason). I use my 360 controller to play a lot of pc games, not really for Shooters, or RTS, but for many other types of games. Many people do, I don't find a game on the pc to not have controller support to be unnacceptable, unless it is a game that really requires it. I prefer to play platform games with it, but say a racing game doesn't have controller/gamepad support, then it is unacceptable.
All this you have to use a M+KB for every game on your pc nonsense is becoming ridiculous.
[QUOTE="Krelian-co"]
[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]
Guess u still haven't learned to read my posts.
Where did I say that? I said that the devs have a right to choose which control method works best on their game depending on the system.
Dumb Analogy you say...?
Yep, cause of course you only read the posts where I say good things about BioWare. I guessed you missed all my posts where I've said bad things hey? Selective reading I see...
FelipeInside
wrong, a good developer let the user choose. as for the rest of the post im not gonna bother
Even if it's worse for the game? Right. (not talking specifically about ME3 here).
Cause I'm right, ok.
It's fine. Everyone complains. Then I have a different view on things and I'm a fanboy. I understand how this works now.
What the heck are you talking about worse for the game? I've played ME2 several times on PC and 360 and it works very well on a controller. I think you're just arguei9ng to argue.
[QUOTE="xxxLUGZxxx"]
Given the fact that it's also released on consoles, it makes no sense whatsoever for ME3 to not support gamepads on PC. Unacceptable.
rhazzy
A controller is inferior to M&K in every aspect...there isnt a SINGLE thing about a gamepad which can match the M&B...however many people like the gamepad over the M&B but that dosent mean nothing...
So why would be unacceptable?Because they dont include a feature which is obsolete,unpractical,inferior???
A controller is more comfortable for people and the most important thing is many people PREFER it. Obsolete and unpractical? Seriously? Man, quit being a pc elitist. Controllers are FAR superior for racing games, most action games, platformers, etc. Also, a skilled gamer with a gamepad can still destroy an unskilled pc gamer online. I'm great with m/kb and with a controller. Hard to believe eh?
[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]
[QUOTE="Krelian-co"]
wrong, a good developer let the user choose. as for the rest of the post im not gonna bother
Endgame_basic
Even if it's worse for the game? Right. (not talking specifically about ME3 here).
Cause I'm right, ok.
It's fine. Everyone complains. Then I have a different view on things and I'm a fanboy. I understand how this works now.
What the heck are you talking about worse for the game? I've played ME2 several times on PC and 360 and it works very well on a controller. I think you're just arguei9ng to argue.
hes trying to defend a lazy decision by bioware with nonsense because thats what a biodrone does. everything they do is "design choise" xD
I won't comment on that, but I will say I like the way ME is programmed for kb/m...I like the idea of being able to drag & drop party members' abilities to the number keys, as that means less pausing during melee. You lose the drag & drop and assignable key bindings when you go with a controller, but on the other hand, a game such as DMC4 has to be played with a controller if you want to survive.hes trying to defend a lazy decision by bioware with nonsense because thats what a biodrone does. everything they do is "design choise" xD
Krelian-co
[QUOTE="LordRork"]
It's the kinds of game I use KB/M for anyway, but it seems a little odd that there isn't an option - as already said, there's a 360 version...!
Mr_Ditters
Why in the world would someone buy a 360 just to play mass effect with a controller? Yeah or--as already said-- they could just put controller support into their game instead of cutting corners.
Funny how smaller developers can add controller support for their ports, but Bioware can't. Its just an example of how PC takes a back seat with them. I especially loved the low res cutscenes they use because they don't feel like making their cutscenes 1080p--just use the console resolution and port it over.
True, even Dear Esther has 360 controller support.
This sounds like Bioware is incredibly lazy.
[QUOTE="Krelian-co"]I won't comment on that, but I will say I like the way ME is programmed for kb/m...I like the idea of being able to drag & drop party members' abilities to the number keys, as that means less pausing during melee. You lose the drag & drop and assignable key bindings when you go with a controller, but on the other hand, a game such as DMC4 has to be played with a controller if you want to survive.hes trying to defend a lazy decision by bioware with nonsense because thats what a biodrone does. everything they do is "design choise" xD
topsemag55
i agree, the ui for mass effect is good for kb/m but sometimes you might want to play it with controller, and since so many times have support for both i don't see why not a high profile game like me 3, , and yes some games are a must with controller
[QUOTE="Mr_Ditters"]
[QUOTE="LordRork"]
It's the kinds of game I use KB/M for anyway, but it seems a little odd that there isn't an option - as already said, there's a 360 version...!
FelipeInside
Why in the world would someone buy a 360 just to play mass effect with a controller? Yeah or--as already said-- they could just put controller support into their game instead of cutting corners.
Funny how smaller developers can add controller support for their ports, but Bioware can't. Its just an example of how PC takes a back seat with them. I especially loved the low res cutscenes they use because they don't feel like making their cutscenes 1080p--just use the console resolution and port it over.
FIXED:
Why in the world would someone buy a PC just to play with a controller.
There are plenty of reasons.
[QUOTE="Krelian-co"]
[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]
Guess u still haven't learned to read my posts.
Where did I say that? I said that the devs have a right to choose which control method works best on their game depending on the system.
Dumb Analogy you say...?
Yep, cause of course you only read the posts where I say good things about BioWare. I guessed you missed all my posts where I've said bad things hey? Selective reading I see...
FelipeInside
wrong, a good developer let the user choose. as for the rest of the post im not gonna bother
Even if it's worse for the game? Right. (not talking specifically about ME3 here).
Cause I'm right, ok.
It's fine. Everyone complains. Then I have a different view on things and I'm a fanboy. I understand how this works now.
Stop It With The @#$%ing Colors I'm Getting A Headache! :evil:
[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]
[QUOTE="Krelian-co"]
wrong, a good developer let the user choose. as for the rest of the post im not gonna bother
Goyoshi12
Even if it's worse for the game? Right. (not talking specifically about ME3 here).
Cause I'm right, ok.
It's fine. Everyone complains. Then I have a different view on things and I'm a fanboy. I understand how this works now.
Stop It With The @#$%ing Colors I'm Getting A Headache! :evil:
As much as I agree, the all caps and excessive punctuation he uses are worse...maybe he thinks we won't know it's him unless he does it.:lol: *foreveralone.jpg*:PThat is true, but if u knew u had a disability and needed to use a controller, then wouldn't you invest in a console where you know the gamepad is better optimized on all games?PS: keep the insults to yourself.FelipeInside
Why can't they own both? Why spend money on a console when your PC can already play the games you want to play? It's 2012 and they still don't include both options. It's pure laziness on Bioware's part.
And no.
[QUOTE="FelipeInside"] That is true, but if u knew u had a disability and needed to use a controller, then wouldn't you invest in a console where you know the gamepad is better optimized on all games?
PS: keep the insults to yourself.ChubbyGuy40
Why can't they own both? Why spend money on a console when your PC can already play the games you want to play? It's 2012 and they still don't include both options. It's pure laziness on Bioware's part.
And no.
hey, its a "design decision" bioware is never lazy, ask the people who played dragon age 2.
[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]
[QUOTE="FelipeInside"] That is true, but if u knew u had a disability and needed to use a controller, then wouldn't you invest in a console where you know the gamepad is better optimized on all games?
PS: keep the insults to yourself.Krelian-co
Why can't they own both? Why spend money on a console when your PC can already play the games you want to play? It's 2012 and they still don't include both options. It's pure laziness on Bioware's part.
And no.
hey, its a "design decision" bioware is never lazy, ask the people who played dragon age 2.
Bioware officially said that they couldn't do it because they didn't have funding to add gamepad support. Yeah right. They somehow had money to screw around with Kinect.
Some people like using the controller, in particular the 360 controller. I think it's a poor business decision not to port over the control scheme from the 360 at the very least. Lots of people seem to enjoy using controller in recent PC games (alan wake). One strength of the PC gaming platform is the options for controls.nutcrackr
I couldn't agree more. Even though I will not be using a 360 controller to play Mass Effect 3, some gamers like to sit back in their chair with a controller. Honestly, I didn't think it would be a big of a deal to throw in a control pad scheme in there.
Some games need 360 support due to unresponsiveness and clunky KB/M controls. Not sure how much ME3 will be affected by this but judging by the demo, KB/M feels fine. An example of a game that was pretty bad with KB/M was Dungeon Siege 3, and I'm so glad they had control pad support or else I would have given up on that game.
[QUOTE="Goyoshi12"][QUOTE="FelipeInside"]
Even if it's worse for the game? Right. (not talking specifically about ME3 here).
Cause I'm right, ok.
It's fine. Everyone complains. Then I have a different view on things and I'm a fanboy. I understand how this works now.
topsemag55
Stop It With The @#$%ing Colors I'm Getting A Headache! :evil:
As much as I agree, the all caps and excessive punctuation he uses are worse...maybe he thinks we won't know it's him unless he does it.:lol: *foreveralone.jpg*:PI really have to learn to control my caps and excessive punctuation....lol.... :)
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