[QUOTE="fatshodan"]Fallout 2 - I want to marry Fallout, but I've never been able to get into Fallout 2. Just didn't suck me in... but I imagine it will be great once it gets going.
Arcanum - Troika > BioWare.
Baldur's Gate II - I BSODed right at the start and decided never to bother playing it ever again! But I do plan on...
Knights of the Old Republic - I don't like BioWare and I don't like Star Wars but, uh... I'm not sure where I'm going with this.
If I enjoy KotoR, I'll also want to play KotoR II, I imagine.
I don't own Vampire the Masquerade Redemption, but I keep meaning to buy it.
Besides the KotoRs, I think everything on this list is better than ME. Quite a lot better.
Darth_Kane
Mass Effect is better than every RPG on that list and IMO best RPG ever (though I highly recommend you play KOTOR first, though I liked ME more 'cos it's very cinematc like MGS which is IMO best game ever)
Mass Effect > KOTOR 1 > The Witcher > Vampire - Bloodlines > Fallout 2 > Baldur's gate 2 > KOTOR 2 > Vampire - Repemption
And BioWare >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arcanum - Troika
And you've only finished like 2 RPGs so you know NOTHING about RPGs
Firstly, I don't value your opinion. We have very different tastes. And while you seem to struggle to grasp the concept - taste is all this is. There's no right and there's no wrong. You enjoy BioWare games - good for you. I don't. You above list means nothing to anyone but yourself. Secondly, which two RPGs have I finished? Because I can assure you the number is far greater than 2.
Thirdly, I would argue that a person can fully grasp a genre after playing just one game - especially if it is a game which truly defines the genre. Besides, I can judge Baldur's Gate 2 with my experiences with BG1, and I played enough of KotoR to weigh up the roleplaying mechanics of both Kotor 1 and 2. I've also played enough of Fallout 2 and Arcanum to fully understand and appreciate how the games work. I just haven't finished them.
Games like Bloodlines and Fallout contain much, much more actual roleplaying than most BioWare games. In most BioWare games, your class determines how you fight your enemy - and that's it. In The Troika games, your class determines how and if you fight your enemy.
In Bloodlines, for instance, experience isn't earned for killing enemies - only for completing quests. What this means is that you can play a bona fide stealth class, who will literally not fight enemies (except on rare occasions). That is real roleplaying.
Games I've played by BioWare are laughably constricting compared with games like Fallout, where just one quest, for example, can be completed in over six different ways depending on a large number of variables.
BioWare games are decent, but there's not all that much roleplaying in them. It's just different forms of combat.
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