Way to not understand what you just read. That is not PC gaming, that is cross platform playing. You only have to pay IF YOU WANT TO PLAY WITH 360 USERS. It is still free to play with just other PC players for **** sake.Manly-manly-manYAY!!!!
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Way to not understand what you just read. That is not PC gaming, that is cross platform playing. You only have to pay IF YOU WANT TO PLAY WITH 360 USERS. It is still free to play with just other PC players for **** sake.Manly-manly-manYAY!!!!
I don't trust MS at all, nor should I or anyone else. There motives are clear, they need to make the shareholders happy, period. If that means they can get their paws on the PC gaming community, and charge us for P2P play, they will do so, which is absolutely insane. Not being able to create your own servers and lan support aren't supported by silver accounts, only gold. This is absolute nonsense, as this has always been free.If someone is that brainwashed not to see what MS is attempting to do, than you are truly lost. MS bullies entire markets, hence the sheer number of lawsuits and anti-trust violations. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize this.
mismajor99
This man is correct. Like most large corporations, MS engages in predatory practices to promote the sole use of its products (i.e., to monopolize the market). I think that people who would actually pay to play online (given that we've had free online play for the last 10+ years) must like to spend money, or they're just ignorant. The point being made here is not that we all can't shell out 5 dollars a month, it's that microsoft is trying to force us to use its service. Give them a couple years and they'll end up controlling the distribution of addons and patches for games, and would probably end up charging for those as well (anyone remember bethesda and the horse armor addon).
Linux is NOT HARD to learn. I don't know where that crap came from. People are just lazy.Rockin_MixMastaYou overestimate the public at large. :) 'Learning' how to do something as simple as clicking two buttons to run Ad-Aware consistently every week is beyond a large chunk of consumers. Show them a command line, and their head implodes.
This man is correct. Like most large corporations, MS engages in predatory practices to promote the sole use of its products (i.e., to monopolize the market). I think that people who would actually pay to play online (given that we've had free online play for the last 10+ years) must like to spend money, or they're just ignorant. The point being made here is not that we all can't shell out 5 dollars a month, it's that microsoft is trying to force us to use its service. Give them a couple years and they'll end up controlling the distribution of addons and patches for games, and would probably end up charging for those as well (anyone remember bethesda and the horse armor addon).spierdalaj666Not making any statements about MS' practices in general, but speaking of ignorant consumers - the idea is that MS isn't actually charging anything for regular PC multiplayer. They're making you pay more for cross-platform play and achievements, essentially. There's a lot of people tossing around FUD. The same people that engage in the predatory practices also recognize that PC multiplayer is not a closed platform, and is not something they can control like XBL - the instant they start to charge for it across the board, they lose that part of the market. People (and the developers/publishers actually making the game) will drop Live like a bad habit and go back to their usual free third-party ways. Only by Live being largely free do they have any chance of landing a decent userbase. Even in the last GFW magazine (June), they have an interview with the XBL head guy. They hammer him with questions about dedicated servers and integrated voice chat. Honestly, he was extremely dodgy on the voice chat to the point where the interviewer asked him 3 or 4 times in a row, but on the dedicated server bit he just gave a flat-out 'no, we're not messing with that aspect of PC gaming - we're leaving it up to the users' choice.' Locking out LAN support sounds incredibly stupid, not to mention impractical. You have to be able to get online to be able to authenticate your Gold account so you play offline?
[QUOTE="Cabal23"][QUOTE="Mummelmann"]This is typical MS tactics for you, and the prime reason I wish them to get fried in the console wars! It's not healthy for one company to take over markets like they do, and proceed to govern them by spanking consumers with the dollar-bat. So what should we do? Buy Blu-Ray for our living room and PC needs, get Linux and refuse to purchase MS products and rather rip them and share them online in a an epic scale...
Oh wait, this is already happening. It really sucks that a company that's really brought PC's to todays level is the same company that could be their demise as a gaming platform! They owe us PC gamers some more loyalty.
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First off the masses aren't moving to Linux. Just isn't happening. The average person doesn't have the capacity, nor time to learn to use a new OS. And lastly good luck getting support for games. And Blu-ray???, the saturation of Blu-ray is minimal at best. People aren't trading in their cheap DVD players to use Blu-ray. Blu-ray has another five years before it goes anywhere(if it isn't eclipsed by something better).
Secondly the console wars are over. I could post countless articles stating that Sony blew the whole PS3 thing. Wii is the number one unit for sales and Microsoft trumps Sony due to it's lower price and Xbox Live. This isn't my opinion, just look at Sony's end of quarter profits. Down down down. Microsoft is up. Do some research before you post dribble.
The majority will never refuse to buy MS products, that's like saying let boycott gas because of high prices. They have made thier place in the market and have a foothold as the number one OS on earth. I am not saying it's fair, but it is a fact. What ever the future holds, MS will be there, with or without the whiners. That is why Bill is so rich and your not.
YAWN!!!!!!!
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Was that supposed to be funny?
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[QUOTE="l-_-l"][QUOTE="Cabal23"][QUOTE="Mummelmann"]This is typical MS tactics for you, and the prime reason I wish them to get fried in the console wars! It's not healthy for one company to take over markets like they do, and proceed to govern them by spanking consumers with the dollar-bat. So what should we do? Buy Blu-Ray for our living room and PC needs, get Linux and refuse to purchase MS products and rather rip them and share them online in a an epic scale...
Oh wait, this is already happening. It really sucks that a company that's really brought PC's to todays level is the same company that could be their demise as a gaming platform! They owe us PC gamers some more loyalty.
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VfighterX
First off the masses aren't moving to Linux. Just isn't happening. The average person doesn't have the capacity, nor time to learn to use a new OS. And lastly good luck getting support for games. And Blu-ray???, the saturation of Blu-ray is minimal at best. People aren't trading in their cheap DVD players to use Blu-ray. Blu-ray has another five years before it goes anywhere(if it isn't eclipsed by something better).
Secondly the console wars are over. I could post countless articles stating that Sony blew the whole PS3 thing. Wii is the number one unit for sales and Microsoft trumps Sony due to it's lower price and Xbox Live. This isn't my opinion, just look at Sony's end of quarter profits. Down down down. Microsoft is up. Do some research before you post dribble.
The majority will never refuse to buy MS products, that's like saying let boycott gas because of high prices. They have made thier place in the market and have a foothold as the number one OS on earth. I am not saying it's fair, but it is a fact. What ever the future holds, MS will be there, with or without the whiners. That is why Bill is so rich and your not.
YAWN!!!!!!!
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Was that supposed to be funny?
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