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#1 SkyWard20
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"I've seen a lot of people voice concerns about the combat being "dumbed down" to be more like an action game. In truth, combat works largely the same – actions are mapped to the face buttons and by pulling on the right trigger or R2 you can switch to a different set of moves. There have been some modifications to the action wheel that you can pull up with the left trigger or L2, but for the most part it's similar too."

"Dragon Age 2 addresses this problem by incorporating a more "Mass Effect like" hero that actually emotes in cinematic cut-scenes. Although the idea is the same and the dialogue wheel is present, this is clearly not Mass Effect."

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#2 KHAndAnime
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This game couldn't look any less interesting if it tried.
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#3 kramernic
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i think that this game will be good. couldnt disagree more with KHandAnime.
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#4 SkyWard20
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This game couldn't look any less interesting if it tried. KHAndAnime

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#5 GeneralShowzer
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Ugly graphics + Linear paths am comfirmed.

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i think that this game will be good. couldnt disagree more with KHandAnime.kramernic
Don't worry, I won't judge you.
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#7 SkyWard20
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Ugly graphics + Linear paths am comfirmed.

GeneralShowzer

Funny how after I disproved your previous statements you grasp at straws.

1. That pic is not ugly. It's just aliased.

2. It's the console version.

3. It's only linear in the sense that you have to do A & B, but you can do it in any sequence you like. The game spans 10 years and it's broken down in chapters, I think... just like the Witcher is.

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[QUOTE="kramernic"]i think that this game will be good. couldnt disagree more with KHandAnime.KHAndAnime
Don't worry, I won't judge you.

i was really worried you would haha

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#9 GeneralShowzer
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1. It's very very ugly, especially for a big budget game 2. PC version won't look THAT different 3. That makes no sense 4. My eyes :o 5. This game doesn't look impressive.
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[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]1. It's very very ugly, especially for a big budget game 2. PC version won't look THAT different 3. That makes no sense 4. My eyes :o 5. This game doesn't look impressive.

Read the article?
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#11 kramernic
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1. It's very very ugly, especially for a big budget game 2. PC version won't look THAT different 3. That makes no sense 4. My eyes :o 5. This game doesn't look impressive.GeneralShowzer

yeah i do agree the game could look a lot better, but i would think most people are buying this game for the story and rpg elements.

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#12 GeneralShowzer
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[QUOTE="SkyWard20"][QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]1. It's very very ugly, especially for a big budget game 2. PC version won't look THAT different 3. That makes no sense 4. My eyes :o 5. This game doesn't look impressive.

Read the article?

But i don't really care.
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#13 DanielDust
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This game couldn't look any less interesting if it tried. KHAndAnime
This You need "some" signs that it'll be awesome before having "more". Also the screenshot you posted still looks worse than DA:O. If you're really a fan you should have known that.
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[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"]This game couldn't look any less interesting if it tried. DanielDust
This You need "some" signs that it'll be awesome before having "more". Also the screenshot you posted still looks worse than DA:O. If you're really a fan you should have known that.

What? The characters' faces look a lot more detailed.
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[QUOTE="SkyWard20"][QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]1. It's very very ugly, especially for a big budget game 2. PC version won't look THAT different 3. That makes no sense 4. My eyes :o 5. This game doesn't look impressive.GeneralShowzer
Read the article?

But i don't really care.

Good old internet mentality : i dont care , but im still hating .

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#16 GeneralShowzer
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[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"][QUOTE="SkyWard20"] Read the article?kazakauskas

But i don't really care.

Good old internet mentality : i dont care , but im still hating .

Well i care a little, since i liked DA : O very much.
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#18 GeneralShowzer
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[QUOTE="kazakauskas"]

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"] But i don't really care.SkyWard20

Good old internet mentality : i dont care , but im still hating .

This boy could cure terminal cancer by just leaving a hospital.

Please, I'm not the one acting immaturely and bashing The Witcher in every damn thread related or unrelated. I'm probably older than you.
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#19 DanielDust
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[QUOTE="DanielDust"][QUOTE="KHAndAnime"]This game couldn't look any less interesting if it tried. SkyWard20
This You need "some" signs that it'll be awesome before having "more". Also the screenshot you posted still looks worse than DA:O. If you're really a fan you should have known that.

What? The characters' faces look a lot more detailed.

I'm not seeing it, at best you can say that they're almost as good (DA:O being the better one). Looking at xbox DA:O Morrigan screenshots, overall, it still looks much better than this one, the face is almost as good as DA:O, but everything else is absolutely horrible. Mods might fix the PC versions, but vanilla looks like garbage, and everything behind looks sounds like garbage.
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#20 SkyWard20
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[QUOTE="SkyWard20"][QUOTE="DanielDust"] This You need "some" signs that it'll be awesome before having "more". Also the screenshot you posted still looks worse than DA:O. If you're really a fan you should have known that.DanielDust
What? The characters' faces look a lot more detailed.

I'm not seeing it, at best you can say that they're almost as good (DA:O being the better one). Looking at xbox DA:O Morrigan screenshots, overall, it still looks much better than this one, the face is almost as good as DA:O, but everything else is absolutely horrible. Mods might fix the PC versions, but vanilla looks like garbage, and everything behind looks sounds like garbage.

"It's no secret that Dragon Age: Origins was not a good-looking game. Even on the PC, which was the best of all the versions, there was no real visual flair to it. That's changed this time around. There's a really cool gothic comic art style to jazz up the cut-scenes and the scenery I've witnessed has all been much more impressive than the bland sets of Origins."

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#21 Cdog993
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ThatsBecause your to busy bashing every bioware game in exisistence.

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#22 SkyWard20
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[QUOTE="SkyWard20"][QUOTE="kazakauskas"]

Good old internet mentality : i dont care , but im still hating .

GeneralShowzer

This boy could cure terminal cancer by just leaving a hospital.

Please, I'm not the one acting immaturely and bashing The Witcher in every damn thread related or unrelated. I'm probably older than you.

nope

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#23 GeneralShowzer
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ThatsBecause your to busy bashing every bioware game in exisistence.

Cdog993

Because i don't like em? I haven't mentioned DA II in months now. People were bothered about my negativity and i stopped posting about it. But now this thread says proof that DA II will be awesome.

I don't see the proof. This game looks bad. It will get buried and forgotten by all the better RPG's and better games coming out in 2011. That's all.

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#24 Cdog993
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[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"][QUOTE="SkyWard20"] This boy could cure terminal cancer by just leaving a hospital.SkyWard20

Please, I'm not the one acting immaturely and bashing The Witcher in every damn thread related or unrelated. I'm probably older than you.

nope

I must agree with skyward I think every thread about DA2, or basically any bioware game you've been posting on the that thread bashing it so please dont pretend to be innocent

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[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]

Ugly graphics + Linear paths am comfirmed.

SkyWard20

Funny how after I disproved your previous statements you grasp at straws.

1. That pic is not ugly. It's just aliased.

2. It's the console version.

3. It's only linear in the sense that you have to do A & B, but you can do it in any sequence you like. The game spans 10 years and it's broken down in chapters, I think... just like the Witcher is.

4.

sexy female character models: Confirmed ;) played DA:O as a female city elf with firery red hair ;)

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#26 deactivated-64ba3ebd35404
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Graphics are looking like they will be a big step up over the original, those console shots are far better looking than the console versions of Origins (which looked like PS2 games at times...) hopefully the step-up on PC will be just as big as the first game and the game will look really good =D Also happy to hear that the combat system isn't being dumbed down, and that it's going to be using a similar progression to first game (Go do Quests in any order but end up at the same end goal.)
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#27 Elann2008
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The last time I could recall, Dragon Age Origins looked hideous compared to the PC version, which was way sharper. And I played all versions, PS3, 360, and PC. I am sure Dragon Age 2 will look much better than its counterparts.
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What's this damn obsession with graphics?! Are you too dumbed down that you can't play a game unless there is something shiny on the screen? I bet you guys never played a snes or worse a sega master system 2.?

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#29 deactivated-64ba3ebd35404
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What's this damn obsession with graphics?! Are you too dumbed down that you can't play a game unless there is something shiny on the screen? I bet you guys never played a snes or worse a sega master system 2.?

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SNES and Master System had games that still look great, 2D ages better than 3D graphics. While I agree that graphics aren't as important as gameplay, at this day and age we shouldn't need to pick between the two. Look at Crysis, one of the best FPSes of the past few years, did things that other FPSes haven't managed AND one of the best looking games of all time. Why should we need to pick one of these things over the other?
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#30 GeneralShowzer
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What's this damn obsession with graphics?! Are you too dumbed down that you can't play a game unless there is something shiny on the screen? I bet you guys never played a snes or worse a sega master system 2.?

frankopanklaric
Yeah, there's absolutely no reason a big budget multi-plat to look like a PS2 game. I guess other developers are idiots for trying to make the best graphics possible? For investing in new graphic engines and new technologies?
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#31 ralph2190
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You know what, it's time we had a DA2 support thread on the GS forums. There have been WAY too many hate threads lately, so this is a welcome change.

The article is really good. Don't be hating on the aliased pictures, the UI screams console version.

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"I've seen a lot of people voice concerns about the combat being "dumbed down" to be more like an action game. In truth, combat works largely the same – actions are mapped to the face buttons and by pulling on the right trigger or R2 you can switch to a different set of moves. There have been some modifications to the action wheel that you can pull up with the left trigger or L2, but for the most part it's similar too."

"Dragon Age 2 addresses this problem by incorporating a more "Mass Effect like" hero that actually emotes in cinematic cut-scenes. Although the idea is the same and the dialogue wheel is present, this is clearly not Mass Effect."

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Are you a FAN of Dragon Age 2 or is it just me...? (I might have noticed ur sig and icon)
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#33 FelipeInside
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What's this damn obsession with graphics?! Are you too dumbed down that you can't play a game unless there is something shiny on the screen? I bet you guys never played a snes or worse a sega master system 2.?

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It's not that mate, it's just that it looks like they have gone BACKWARDS in graphics from Dragon Age 1. No one is saying that it should look like Crysis, just that better than the first....
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#34 ralph2190
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It's not that mate, it's just that it looks like they have gone BACKWARDS in graphics from Dragon Age 1. No one is saying that it should look like Crysis, just that better than the first....FelipeInside

Actually, it's pretty much the same. The were looking for a better, more colorful art style this time around. Animations look better too. Take a look at the new dev diary to see the difference.

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#35 deactivated-64ba3ebd35404
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[QUOTE="frankopanklaric"]

What's this damn obsession with graphics?! Are you too dumbed down that you can't play a game unless there is something shiny on the screen? I bet you guys never played a snes or worse a sega master system 2.?

FelipeInside
It's not that mate, it's just that it looks like they have gone BACKWARDS in graphics from Dragon Age 1. No one is saying that it should look like Crysis, just that better than the first....

Uh...sorry to break it to you, but you're wrong. Simple as that. Compare these screenshots to the console versions of Dragon Age Origins. In fact, just go back and look at screenshots of Dragon Age Origins on consoles in general, it looked awful. This is a big improvement for the console version.
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Every time someone try to tell me "Yeah its a improvement i just get less hyped". Instead of improving on DAO they went back with things... The new design look bland. The animations make no sense what so ever, even more in the dragon age world. I did not see people do ninja moves in the first game... Did someone change gravity? Suddenly everyone is jumping around, knife cuts make people get knocked back 2-3m. Sure they have pausing but why would you do that? Its like lighting a cigarette with a flame thrower... Completely overkill seeing as you can get past the content with button mashing. Less gameplay time, less choices on how to build and make your character and MOAR DLC. when the game is 10-20$ ultimate edition that contain ALL dlc i will maybe get it. Maybe.. Luckily there are more interesting games being released where the devs seem to want me to buy their game.
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#37 Treflis
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Well I got a positive though careful aproach to the game, I haven't been disappointed by a Bioware game so far. Infact only things I find odd and a little sad is that. 1. You can't be an Elf or Dwarf who had their own beginnings and encountered characters that had more relevance to them compared to when you met them with a different character, For instance Shinna, The female city elf in the Alienage. For a Dwarf or Human, she's just an elf that works as a sort of leder, For your City elf character she's actually your cousin and she reacts entirely different to your city elf character then the Dwarf or Human. 2. What's the deal with the horizonal blood smear across Hawke's nose? Does he/she had a habit of dipping their fingers in an enemy's dead body and then smear their floor on their face, thus trying be more badass? =P
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Skyward20 your trying so hard to convince people like this game, and won't accept others opinions on it. I love BioWare and liked DA:O but the simple truth is the DA2 does look a lot worse than the original. All that I have seen is a dumbed down version of the first game.

And I honestly feel that the reviews for the game won't be what you are expecting and the game will score between 7.5 and 8.

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#39 deactivated-64ba3ebd35404
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Skyward20 your trying so hard to convince people like this game, and won't accept others opinions on it. I love BioWare and liked DA:O but the simple truth is the DA2 does look a lot worse than the original. All that I have seen is a dumbed down version of the first game.

And I honestly feel that the reviews for the game won't be what you are expecting and the game will score between 7.5 and 8.

Raxzor
What about it is dumbed down? Same combat, same tactics, from what we know, same level of exploration in areas, better graphics. I see lots of people saying "IT'S DUMBED DOWN" but not once has someone actually explained how... The only "dumbed down" part of it is that you can't pick an origin story any more. And you know what? If that means that my character is now actually going to be voice acted rather than the stupid lack of voice-work for the main character in the first game, then I'm cool with that.
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Wish some of these people here have played ultima in the day..Man they wouldve been like i cant play this game its a dot lol..Remember that some of the old timers here like myself..We had a square an it moved an it hit another square or triangle..The sword was a stick..Yet that game still lives in my mind as better than some of the graphical games of todays era..Why do you ask because it had heart an soul..Ultima had a ton of things to do..Regents wich was mixing of spells was tedious at best and took hours to make..Man i remember one day just sitting home to mix spells for the entire week of gaming..My brother did the same the week later...It took us months to beat ultima because the world was so huge..Id wonder what some of these younger players would do with a game like that..Maybe not play it..Id still go back today an play any ultima game...Wish they still made games like this with heart an soul..

Dao 2s graphics are not bad..Shame some people say they wont play it because it doesnt look like some other games..Its not meant ot be..Id rather have great game-play an heart and soul rather than graphics..Dao 2 looks like it will be fun ill be playing this day one..Torchlight doesnt have the best graphics either yet every one loves the heck out of the game...As do i..Think some of the younger crowd need to look at game-play first and graphics second..Im sure there will be the same amount of game time also with dao2...

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#41 JS0123456789
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And I honestly feel that the reviews for the game won't be what you are expecting and the game will score between 7.5 and 8.

Raxzor

That would be the lowest score ever for a Bioware game. It won't happen; most reviewers will judge it based on it's own merit, not in comparison to Origins.

For the people ripping the graphics based on those screens, those are for the xbox 360 version.

I doubt the game will be as good as Origins but it's not like it's going to suck.

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#42 SkyWard20
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Skyward20 your trying so hard to convince people like this game, and won't accept others opinions on it. I love BioWare and liked DA:O but the simple truth is the DA2 does look a lot worse than the original. All that I have seen is a dumbed down version of the first game.

And I honestly feel that the reviews for the game won't be what you are expecting and the game will score between 7.5 and 8.

Raxzor

I gave you a preview of the game made by a critic who actually has played the game for five hours straight... and IGN has been reliable for me.

Some artists/creators consistently release good works that meet a certain standard of quality during their time. I'm not saying that BioWare can't make a bad game or that we should solely have expectations of a game based on previous accomplishments -- just that we shouldn't jump to conclusions when MANY previews actually said the combat will be very similar for Dragon Age 2, ignore all the evidence and be surprised if the game is actually decent.

It's very possible for humans to fail and it's quite possible for BioWare to release a 'bad game', but between Dragon Age, Mass Effect and the Old Republic, I don't expect BioWare to fail when it seems to be reaching the height of its career ( at least for me ).

I know not everyone may actually like BioWare and what it's doing now, but for everyone that liked BioWare's more recent works ( Kotor, Dragon Age, Mass Effect ), I don't expect them to be disappointed.

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"I've seen a lot of people voice concerns about the combat being "dumbed down" to be more like an action game. In truth, combat works largely the same – actions are mapped to the face buttons and by pulling on the right trigger or R2 you can switch to a different set of moves. There have been some modifications to the action wheel that you can pull up with the left trigger or L2, but for the most part it's similar too."

"Dragon Age 2 addresses this problem by incorporating a more "Mass Effect like" hero that actually emotes in cinematic cut-scenes. Although the idea is the same and the dialogue wheel is present, this is clearly not Mass Effect."

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SkyWard20

u already started off by using a controller as an example of game play...u already killed ur argument for me...sry...but rpgs like this should have a mouse...im an old school rpg fan who still plays tabletop...but action wheels and move sets doesnt compare to 10 action bars for spells and abilities...

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#44 Barbariser
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Dragon Age 1 wasn't awesome and it doesn't look like this game's trying to significantly improve on its predecessor.

What I'm hoping for is that the game will expand on the original by keeping all your origins options and actually turning them into things which significantly affected the game. It's irritating to me that Bioware's decided not to do that kind of work and just took out the racial backgrounds entirely. From a writing perspective - and that's the second most important part of an RPG - Dragon Age was nothing special, either. They didn't manage to make me interested or involved in the world that they spent so much time building, and that signifies to me a failure on the part of a developer which is reputed for supposedly having well-written games.

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#45 SkyWard20
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"I've seen a lot of people voice concerns about the combat being "dumbed down" to be more like an action game. In truth, combat works largely the same – actions are mapped to the face buttons and by pulling on the right trigger or R2 you can switch to a different set of moves. There have been some modifications to the action wheel that you can pull up with the left trigger or L2, but for the most part it's similar too."

"Dragon Age 2 addresses this problem by incorporating a more "Mass Effect like" hero that actually emotes in cinematic cut-scenes. Although the idea is the same and the dialogue wheel is present, this is clearly not Mass Effect."

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u already started off by using a controller as an example of game play...u already killed ur argument for me...sry...but rpgs like this should have a mouse...im an old school rpg fan who still plays tabletop...but action wheels and move sets doesnt compare to 10 action bars for spells and abilities...

aaaaaand the interface will have an action bar for the PC version. this was about whether the actual combat is more action-oriented or dumbed down, not the interface. if it's not dumbed down on consoles, why should it be on the PC?
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#46 FelipeInside
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[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="frankopanklaric"]

What's this damn obsession with graphics?! Are you too dumbed down that you can't play a game unless there is something shiny on the screen? I bet you guys never played a snes or worse a sega master system 2.?

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It's not that mate, it's just that it looks like they have gone BACKWARDS in graphics from Dragon Age 1. No one is saying that it should look like Crysis, just that better than the first....

Uh...sorry to break it to you, but you're wrong. Simple as that. Compare these screenshots to the console versions of Dragon Age Origins. In fact, just go back and look at screenshots of Dragon Age Origins on consoles in general, it looked awful. This is a big improvement for the console version.

We are talking about PC here...
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#47 SkyWard20
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Dragon Age 1 wasn't awesome and it doesn't look like this game's trying to significantly improve on its predecessor.

What I'm hoping for is that the game will expand on the original by keeping all your origins options and actually turning them into things which significantly affected the game. It's irritating to me that Bioware's decided not to do that kind of work and just took out the racial backgrounds entirely. From a writing perspective - and that's the second most important part of an RPG - Dragon Age was nothing special, either.

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While I liked the writing for Dragon Age and enjoyed the fleshed out world, standing out was the replayability and how you could create a wealth of characters from different backgrounds, so for me, it IS one of the best RPG's in recent times.
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1. It's very very ugly, especially for a big budget game 2. PC version won't look THAT different 3. That makes no sense 4. My eyes :o 5. This game doesn't look impressive.GeneralShowzer

I still bet it will get 9.0 Editor's Choice on the PC.

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#49 SkyWard20
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[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]1. It's very very ugly, especially for a big budget game 2. PC version won't look THAT different 3. That makes no sense 4. My eyes :o 5. This game doesn't look impressive.topsemag55

I still bet it will get 9.0 Editor's Choice on the PC.

same here.
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#50 therancors
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[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="kieranb2000"][QUOTE="FelipeInside"] It's not that mate, it's just that it looks like they have gone BACKWARDS in graphics from Dragon Age 1. No one is saying that it should look like Crysis, just that better than the first....

Uh...sorry to break it to you, but you're wrong. Simple as that. Compare these screenshots to the console versions of Dragon Age Origins. In fact, just go back and look at screenshots of Dragon Age Origins on consoles in general, it looked awful. This is a big improvement for the console version.

We are talking about PC here...

Even so, have we really seen many PC screenshots of DA2?