Most annoying trends in new games?

Lack of colours. Most games have been brown and grey this generation. Why developers think that less colourful is more realistic? Also 3d. Don't get me wrong I love 3d games, but why do all games need to be 3d? Some great games had amazing 2d graphics that hardly get dated like Curse of Monkey Island. And that takes me to another point: more variety and creativity. We used to get games like Lemmings in the past. Not all games need to be Call of Duty. Thanks to indie games for taking some risks, but really, we need more innovation and different games. And lean, please! It was an excellent mechanic in FPS games! I guess we have to blame consoles and its limited buttons for this one.pilouuuu2004

I miss lean. Haha. It was like a revelation when I was playing F.E.A.R. the first time, and mapped the lean controls to the two thumb buttons on the mouse. Heavenly light shined in the window onto the mouse pad, and there was much ass-kicking.

[QUOTE="Lox_Cropek"]

[QUOTE="HyperWarlock"]

Mabey to you, but to me I find the 360 controller easier than m/kb. I find it annoying having to look across the keyboard for different keys. A controller it's all in the palm of your hand.

Advid-Gamer

The blurring effect - I decided to start from minor annoyances. It really bugs me when I turn my camera around and the world blurs (like in Just Cause 2) as if to make it more "realistic". It isn't like that in real life, it's really annoying.TheDude184

Saving systems that do not let me save anywhere. In any situation. ME3 won't let me save in the middle of battles. Now they throw in checkpoints but I hate having to do things twice.

People that complain about the way I want to play and think their way is the only way. Your the ones that are truly pathetic.

Games are way too short and leave too large a bootprint on my HDD.

And finally, games that require an online manager like Steam and Origin that will not allow me to share my used finished game with my son. I don't want to sell it I just want to share it with someone in my own house.

Calling action-adventure games RPGs, streamlining (a.k.a dumbing things down to the least common denominator) and DLC.

-wildflower-

Are you really that hard headed?

There are genres in gaming.

Some games are full on RPGs (aka, Baldurs Gate).

Some are action RPGs (like Diablo)

Some are action-adventure RPG (like Mass Effect).

Also, streamlining isn't dumbing down if done right, it just removes the tedious things some gamers don't want to care about.

I can't believe you don't understand these things.

[QUOTE="-wildflower-"]

Calling action-adventure games RPGs, streamlining (a.k.a dumbing things down to the least common denominator) and DLC.

FelipeInside

Are you really that hard headed?

There are genres in gaming.

Some games are full on RPGs (aka, Baldurs Gate).

Some are action RPGs (like Diablo)

Some are action-adventure RPG (like Mass Effect).

Also, streamlining isn't dumbing down if done right, it just removes the tedious things some gamers don't want to care about.

I can't believe you don't understand these things.

Oh, I'm sorry, I must have misunderstood what this thread was about. I thought it was soliciting my opinion but obviously I was mistaken.

And what's a genre? Does it have something to do with the Human Genome Project? Look, I can't even spell DNA much less understand my human genres. I'm sure if I were as well read as some other "gamers" I'd know these cagey and elusive definitions more gooder.

but I digress...

Just because a developer or publisher slaps a label on something doesn't necessarily make it valid or true. Todd Howard called Red Dead Redemption "a great RPG" so I guess we have to start calling RDR a RPG now, too.

Groovy! I guess everything is a RPG these days.

Tiger Woods Golf? A sports RPG! Burnout Paradise City? A crashing RPG! Batman Arkham Asylum/City? A cape & codpiece RPG! Genomes be damned!

And, yeah, 99% of the time, streamlining and dumbing-down are synonymous. Publishers have to capture the non-critical thinking, tween-based console market somehow. They gotta go where the easy cabbage grows.

I can't believe you don't understand these things.

Boring enviroments. I haven't seen anything this gen as interesting as Morrowind or Jade Empire. Fantasy games should take more advantage of being fantasy.

THIS.

achievements - go away pls :lol:

Day One DLC

Excessive cut scenes

Stripping control from the player (e.g. forced character movement, limited view)

Health regeneration in multiplayer FPS

Otherwise I am pretty happy with games in general.

Without a doubt DLCs. I miss the good old proper expansion packs

robertlie

- Cover systems in PC games: just give me lean. A good keyboard+mouse set-up renders a cover system obsolete. This 'press Q to be glued to wall' trend really needs to end now.

- Strawberry jam screens: seriously, having the entire screen turn red whenever you get hit grinds my gears like no other thing in gaming.

- Absence of quicksave: I thought we were past this. I don't want to have to redo 10 minutes of gameplay because I got into some deathtrap. Just let me save wherever, whenever.

- Quicktime events: "press x to continue cutscene". A pathetic and ineffective way of trying to maintain an illusion of interactivity.

- In-game pre-order bonuses. "Pre-order the limited edition free of charge and get an extra gun and vehicle". Oh go away.

DraugenCP

The overall lack of challenge is the thing that bothers me the most. I also don't like the lack of strategy games created by mainstream developers and backed by big publishers these days. Indies have helped to fill the gap in strategy games to a point, but it is a neglected genre.

I hate checkpoint systems that are used in place of save systems. Regenerating health, slow-paced shooters, and an overall lack of powerups are additional problems with today's first-person shooters. I would also like to be able to hold 8-10 guns, like I could back in 90's.

I would love to see more complex, deep strategy games with phone book manuals. Better manuals across the board, please. No more of this PDF on the DVD crap.

Falconoffury

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]

[QUOTE="-wildflower-"]

Calling action-adventure games RPGs, streamlining (a.k.a dumbing things down to the least common denominator) and DLC.

-wildflower-

Are you really that hard headed?

There are genres in gaming.

Some games are full on RPGs (aka, Baldurs Gate).

Some are action RPGs (like Diablo)

Some are action-adventure RPG (like Mass Effect).

Also, streamlining isn't dumbing down if done right, it just removes the tedious things some gamers don't want to care about.

I can't believe you don't understand these things.

1- Just because a developer or publisher slaps a label on something doesn't necessarily make it valid or true.

2 - And, yeah, 99% of the time, streamlining and dumbing-down are synonymous.

Yep, I guess you are hard headed. Here I go again trying to explain the obvious.

1- Not because a dev or publisher slaps a label, but because games are categorized by genre by both reviewers, gamers and developers (u are a gamer right?). We use these genre labels to know what kind of game it is. NO, there is no RULE Book or Bible which state the rules, and YES, some developers slap any label they want... BUT, you should know by now (how long have you been gaming?) that there are default labels. Like RPG and Action RPG have been around for years, yet you still think that if a game is called Action RPG then you automatically compare it to something along the likes of Baldurs Gate, with lots of stats and rules.

There are sub-categories to the genre title called RPG.

2- If you read my post, I said "if done right".

[QUOTE="-wildflower-"]

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]

Are you really that hard headed?

There are genres in gaming.

Some games are full on RPGs (aka, Baldurs Gate).

Some are action RPGs (like Diablo)

Some are action-adventure RPG (like Mass Effect).

Also, streamlining isn't dumbing down if done right, it just removes the tedious things some gamers don't want to care about.

I can't believe you don't understand these things.

FelipeInside

1- Just because a developer or publisher slaps a label on something doesn't necessarily make it valid or true.

2 - And, yeah, 99% of the time, streamlining and dumbing-down are synonymous.

Yep, I guess you are hard headed. Here I go again trying to explain the obvious.

1- Not because a dev or publisher slaps a label, but because games are categorized by genre by both reviewers, gamers and developers (u are a gamer right?). We use these genre labels to know what kind of game it is. NO, there is no RULE Book or Bible which state the rules, and YES, some developers slap any label they want... BUT, you should know by now (how long have you been gaming?) that there are default labels. Like RPG and Action RPG have been around for years, yet you still think that if a game is called Action RPG then you automatically compare it to something along the likes of Baldurs Gate, with lots of stats and rules.

There are sub-categories to the genre title called RPG.

2- If you read my post, I said "if done right".

1- it is possible to have long debates about what really makes an rpg an rpg so let's not go there, but i think it says it all that your example to clarify your point is baldurs gate, an old game that nobody would argue is not an rpg. how many of todays rpg's can you name that won't spark controversy about what (sub)genre they belong to? rpg's like we knew them are barely being made and we have peoples thinking oblivion (or skyrim) is as good as it gets as far as rpg's are concerned when these games may be good but really, barely scratch the surface of what an rpg can be. i think that is what's being criticised here.

2- if it were done right everyone would have called it optimized in stead of streamlined. no matter which way you look at it, if you are going to streamline something it means you need to make decisions about what is important, what is not and discard the latter. just because you agree with the decision doesn't mean someone else has no right to feel like something important and meaningful was lost, and i think there are more than enough cases where peoples do feel that way.

Also, too many cutscenes and lack of challenge

- Strawberry jam screens: seriously, having the entire screen turn red whenever you get hit grinds my gears like no other thing in gaming.

- Quicktime events: "press x to continue cutscene". A pathetic and ineffective way of trying to maintain an illusion of interactivity.

- In-game pre-order bonuses. "Pre-order the limited edition free of charge and get an extra gun and vehicle". Oh go away.

DraugenCP

Hate, absolutely hate the double penalty cause by loss of health and vision(blurry, red etc screen). I believe Gears of War was the maker of this this trash.

Quicktime events should simply die.

Pre-order bonus is cheating customers.

Too many cutscenes and too much focus on story telling

Lox_Cropek

I second that.

[QUOTE="HyperWarlock"]

[QUOTE="Iffy350"]

Its just really stupid. Besides a keyboard and mouse are easier to use. I hate the 360's awkward positioning of the to analog sticks. It makes playing Ace Combat 6 a pain in the ass. If anything a PS3 controller would be better for PC gaming. I play microsoft flight sim X with a keyboard and a Saitek X52 pro but microsoft made it so that people could play the best flightsim series with an xbox controller. Thats just pathetic.

Lox_Cropek

Mabey to you, but to me I find the 360 controller easier than m/kb. I find it annoying having to look across the keyboard for different keys. A controller it's all in the palm of your hand.

Or it can be that the controller is better suited for certain games than the keyboard and mouse.

THIS.

CaptainAhab13

Best post EVAR.

[QUOTE="CaptainAhab13"]

THIS.

Pedro

Best post EVAR.

You can also substitute RPG for FPS and it's still relevant.

Well as far as difficulty goes, you're not going to get around that. Games shouldn't be easy yet not too hard so if you can't find a good difficulty setting you're screwed on that one. For me, the main complaint is devs making games way too over the top. Max Payne fell victim to this, Res Evil, etc; games that became big one way taking a drastic turn for the absurd. Survival horror turned into 3rd person shooter, and it seems like most games are way too similar than ever before. It's like everything that gets big eventually devolves into some Hollywood-esque production. If it's not broken, don't fix it. Another complaint in new games? People whining about new games. Ironic I know, but what I mean is how people critique every little thing on new games with no idea what goes into making them. Kids also seem to whine about things that aren't even flaws, but are preferences in controls or HUD displays when they really don't break a game. They are preferences. A game isn't junk because you've played Halo for 8 years and now you can't adapt. DexterDarkly

You are so correct about the whining. I see PC gamers being the biggest and most vocal whinners. What makes it worse is that they tend to complain about stuff that are for all intents and purposes meaningless to the actual game(lack of DirectX 11).

PC gamers whine a lot these days because the industry has changed so much, in so many ways that are bad for us. DRM, console leftovers, little innovation, fewer strategy games designed for PC. It's amazing how little the PC gaming community whines given the state of things.

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]

[QUOTE="-wildflower-"]

1- Just because a developer or publisher slaps a label on something doesn't necessarily make it valid or true.

2 - And, yeah, 99% of the time, streamlining and dumbing-down are synonymous.

BLKR4330

Yep, I guess you are hard headed. Here I go again trying to explain the obvious.

1- Not because a dev or publisher slaps a label, but because games are categorized by genre by both reviewers, gamers and developers (u are a gamer right?). We use these genre labels to know what kind of game it is. NO, there is no RULE Book or Bible which state the rules, and YES, some developers slap any label they want... BUT, you should know by now (how long have you been gaming?) that there are default labels. Like RPG and Action RPG have been around for years, yet you still think that if a game is called Action RPG then you automatically compare it to something along the likes of Baldurs Gate, with lots of stats and rules.

There are sub-categories to the genre title called RPG.

2- If you read my post, I said "if done right".

1- it is possible to have long debates about what really makes an rpg an rpg so let's not go there, but i think it says it all that your example to clarify your point is baldurs gate, an old game that nobody would argue is not an rpg. how many of todays rpg's can you name that won't spark controversy about what (sub)genre they belong to? rpg's like we knew them are barely being made and we have peoples thinking oblivion (or skyrim) is as good as it gets as far as rpg's are concerned when these games may be good but really, barely scratch the surface of what an rpg can be. i think that is what's being criticised here.

2- if it were done right everyone would have called it optimized in stead of streamlined. no matter which way you look at it, if you are going to streamline something it means you need to make decisions about what is important, what is not and discard the latter. just because you agree with the decision doesn't mean someone else has no right to feel like something important and meaningful was lost, and i think there are more than enough cases where peoples do feel that way.

[QUOTE="CaptainAhab13"]

THIS.

Pedro

Best post EVAR.