MSNBC article on PC gamming dying

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#51 GPAddict
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i think I have given the wrong links Ok put some more to support what i have to say

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26204726

http://www.guildwars.com/events/press/releases/pressrelease-2008-02-26.php

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26287419

http://play.tm/wire/cluster/1747112

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26029653

I would like to say that pc game are not like concole games they last longer now days too as well. So some games are still selling really strong even if it's old. If you still need more prove I can find a ton of other pc only games snd even some of the free ones like runscape

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LOL

Plz don't bring runecrap into this discussion.

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#52 blackdreamhunk
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[QUOTE="blackdreamhunk"]

i think I have given the wrong links Ok put some more to support what i have to say

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26204726

http://www.guildwars.com/events/press/releases/pressrelease-2008-02-26.php

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26287419

http://play.tm/wire/cluster/1747112

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26029653

I would like to say that pc game are not like concole games they last longer now days too as well. So some games are still selling really strong even if it's old. If you still need more prove I can find a ton of other pc only games snd even some of the free ones like runscape

GPAddict

LOL

Plz don't bring runecrap into this discussion.

fact remains there is 7 mill gamers playing that. 9 mill that play hbo I think that is what it's called you don't hear games like on main stream media media. Some of those sites are making alot money
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#53 killax3563
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pc gameing = gaming on cell phones

they'll be here 4EVA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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#54 blackdreamhunk
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the only thing bad that can be said about the pc market is you have to be one of the best game devs to be make it. Unlike concole market where there is a alot of trash games. for exmple the 300 game.
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#55 fireandcloud
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actually, she doesn't mention dd. she mentions online games like wow. and then she mentions non-retail sales. but she doesn't ever mention 'direct download' or 'steam.' my point was that she doesn't give a comprehensive report and analyze the state of pc gaming at all clearly and throws out figures that are misleading to support her theory that pc gaming is dying. there's really no point in nitpicking about what i wrote as long as you get the gist.

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'direct downloads' and 'steam' are non-retail sales. So in mentioning non-retail sales, she mentions steam and DD as well as every other form of non-retail sales currently propelling the pc game industry. To name each individually isn't the point of the article.

As you said, she doesn't give a comprehensive report. If you read the entire article you'll notice that she doesnt lean in either direction. The question "Is Pc gaming dying" is asked, and then evidence is provided in support of the statement as well as against it. So you are mistaken again on her theory. She provides ample evidence for both sides of the argument. If anything, her article is pointless because it's the same rehash that news outlets post every few years.

But the article is neutral. You were successfully trolled by the original poster. He cut out the controversial bits without posting the rebuttals, and you (alogn with most people in this thread) ate it hook, line and sinker

i feel like such a tool! you have shown me the error of my ways!

that was sarcasm, btw.

by saying non-retail sales and not specifying what that entails (it sounds almost like she's talking about subscription fees for mmos, cuz she mentions it only in passing right after talking about mmos; and non-pc gamers won't even understand what that means; they'll think it means like sales on ebay) and not even mentioning how dd and steam are fast on the rise and making up the difference shows that the article is not neutral. the reviewer is probably not biased. she probably doesn't have much of a clue. she just heard something along the lines of 'pc gaming is dying' and she threw out some stats that were biased and in the end wrote an article that wasn't neutral even one bit.

'ample evidence for both sides of the argument.' eh? what's the ample evidence? quoting one person who thinks that non-retail sales are bigger than retail sales? talking about the sims and wow and casual games dominating the pc market? any competent reporter on this subject matter would have tried to get in touch with direct2drive or steam and gotten a quote from them (at the very least). or at least covered the many, many games that are pc exclusive and not made it seem like mmos and casual games are all there's to pc gaming these days. you really should go back and re-read the article. it's nowhere near neutral as you seem to think it is.

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#56 04dcarraher
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Some people dont realize that without Pc's there wouldnt be any consoles/and games. Games are made on Pc and are tested first then after most of the bugs are out they test it on the consoles ie like when Oblivion was tested on the 360 they fried a few of them because of the graphical stress :P, The consoles most of the time get 2nd hand tech which by the time the consoles are released Pc is already a generation or two ahead. Now saying Pc cost more than a Console HA! I almost gerentee that if someone that has a console has internet and also has a Pc. Pc gaming isnt that expensive as people think o ya you got to spend $1200+ or more to equal console graphics or to play games ya right!, If you know what your looking for and add/build your own Pc You can have a good gaming Pc for $600-700 which most people pay for aways for a Pc from Dell,Gateway etc.. Most people know this here but there is some who are brainwashed by console tards and these stupid articles that these so called "experts" give Pc's a bad name and promote consoles which I think they were bought to say these things.
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#57 jfsebastianII
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Why don't you read the full article? And yeah there may have been a lot of articles about it but never has the revenue for PC games sales be so small compared to the over all games sales numbers. That's not an opinion or prediction; it's a fact and one that has more to do with driving the future than anything else.

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It's all relative - $911 million is still quite a lot of money if you think about it...

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#58 TheGamerUser
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I second that opinion. Plus if anythings hurting PC gaming is piracy.
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#59 Toriko42
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People will buy pcs if there are more games that look like crysis. Thats a guarantee!oldvander
No they won't once they find out the specs
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#60 mis3ry
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Everyone quotes NPD, but NPD doesn't take into account digital distrobution, which is huge on PC. Remember when everyone thought Crysis sales completely tanked (as in less than 200 000 sales?) And then remember when it passed 1 000 000? Seriously, PC gaming is still in great shape..
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#61 lenson
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In some countries like Korea PC is the main gaming platform.
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#62 TacticalElefant
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The console companies will all go "ka-poot" before PCs ever die out as gaming machines. Considering a PC is a necessity for everyone, they'll always be a viable platform.
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#63 hamidious
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When people talk about pc gaming dieing they don't talk about there not being any games on the PC, they mean that every fulltime dev is getting their ass kicked by indie devs or Valve/Blizzard.

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