MW2 and Black Ops

Quicky:

Do they use the same engine?

I know they are different companies but always wondered this...

Thanks

Quicky:

Do they use the same engine?

I know they are different companies but always wondered this...

Thanks

FelipeInside

they all use the same engine. its the same game over and over again. reskinned.

Aren't they still on the same engine they used for COD2? Which was just a modified unreal engine?

Aren't they still on the same engine they used for COD2? Which was just a modified unreal engine?

lucfonzy

[QUOTE="lucfonzy"]

Aren't they still on the same engine they used for COD2? Which was just a modified unreal engine?

FelipeInside

TBH Cod is very pretty.

I thought CoD4 was amazing, hell even CoD 2 even by todays standards, as a "classic" its great.

MW2 is nice too, but they just put in way too much "shiny" for my liking. Some of the textures look whack aswell, but all in all its pretty nice looking,

it does not look good...... all very cheap texture work, pre baked lighting, blahh everythingg

it does not look good...... all very cheap texture work, pre baked lighting, blahh everythingg

somegtalover

Yep, COD looks pretty bad. Theres nothing amazing about the graphics, its all low rez.

COD LOOKS GREAT

-view distance, lighting, textures, skybox, polygon count, particles, what else can i name?

Here how about this game?

CoD4 doesn't look bad (looks better in motion of course). Crysis is a whole 'nother generation above in terms of looks. Then again, CoD4's engine was aimed to deliver 60 fps on consoles at a sub-HD resolution. Crysis was aiming for Radeon 38xx and 8800GTX equipped machines. I think Crysis does well for what it's displaying on screen, it's still very willing to go to hell in framerate even on a 5850. Had tessellation been around in DX10, Crysis would've benefited from it very much so, with much less popping in for higher meshes on LOD effected objects. Crysis was basically this big juggernaut, and still is for PC gamers. I remember first running it on a custom machine with an Athlon x2 5600, 8800 GTS 320 MB, 2 GB DDR2-800, WinXP and high settings at 720p really gave the card a huge workout. I'd sometimes lower some settings to medium to get some more FPS. Surely things would've been better with 512 MB or more VRAM.

CoD4 doesn't look bad (looks better in motion of course). Crysis is a whole 'nother generation above in terms of looks. Then again, CoD4's engine was aimed to deliver 60 fps on consoles at a sub-HD resolution.

mouthforbathory

[QUOTE="mouthforbathory"]

CoD4 doesn't look bad (looks better in motion of course). Crysis is a whole 'nother generation above in terms of looks. Then again, CoD4's engine was aimed to deliver 60 fps on consoles at a sub-HD resolution.

FelipeInside

[QUOTE="mouthforbathory"]

CoD4 doesn't look bad (looks better in motion of course). Crysis is a whole 'nother generation above in terms of looks. Then again, CoD4's engine was aimed to deliver 60 fps on consoles at a sub-HD resolution.

FelipeInside

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="mouthforbathory"]

CoD4 doesn't look bad (looks better in motion of course). Crysis is a whole 'nother generation above in terms of looks. Then again, CoD4's engine was aimed to deliver 60 fps on consoles at a sub-HD resolution.

SF_KiLLaMaN

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="mouthforbathory"]

CoD4 doesn't look bad (looks better in motion of course). Crysis is a whole 'nother generation above in terms of looks. Then again, CoD4's engine was aimed to deliver 60 fps on consoles at a sub-HD resolution.

SF_KiLLaMaN

That's a cheap shot.

Crysis was years ahead of EVERYTHING when it came out, and it's still pretty far ahead now.

At the time CoD4 was pretty impressive.

Every game next to Crysis will look worse, yes it's all well and good claiming ownage but stuff like that is just poor. Crysis was developed to be a graphics powerhouse, CoD wasn't, isn't and probably will never be.

I love Crysis, but I think here we are comparing CoD games, not Crysis vs the world.

[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"][QUOTE="FelipeInside"] Exactly, people comparing Crysis to COD is just plain wrong. How old is COD's engine compared to Crytek's? Still, CoD looks great, even if it's the same engine as COD1 years back...lucfonzy

That's a cheap shot.

Crysis was years ahead of EVERYTHING when it came out, and it's still pretty far ahead now.

At the time CoD4 was pretty impressive.

Every game next to Crysis will look worse, yes it's all well and good claiming ownage but stuff like that is just poor. Crysis was developed to be a graphics powerhouse, CoD wasn't, isn't and probably will never be.

I love Crysis, but I think here we are comparing CoD games, not Crysis vs the world.

[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"][QUOTE="FelipeInside"] Exactly, people comparing Crysis to COD is just plain wrong. How old is COD's engine compared to Crytek's? Still, CoD looks great, even if it's the same engine as COD1 years back...lucfonzy

That's a cheap shot.

Crysis was years ahead of EVERYTHING when it came out, and it's still pretty far ahead now.

At the time CoD4 was pretty impressive.

Every game next to Crysis will look worse, yes it's all well and good claiming ownage but stuff like that is just poor. Crysis was developed to be a graphics powerhouse, CoD wasn't, isn't and probably will never be.

I love Crysis, but I think here we are comparing CoD games, not Crysis vs the world.

[QUOTE="lucfonzy"]

[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"] So basically you are saying you cannot blame Activision for poor graphics because the engine is old? LOL. They both came out in the same year, Crysis blew CoD4 out of the water. It is as simple as that.SF_KiLLaMaN

That's a cheap shot.

Crysis was years ahead of EVERYTHING when it came out, and it's still pretty far ahead now.

At the time CoD4 was pretty impressive.

Every game next to Crysis will look worse, yes it's all well and good claiming ownage but stuff like that is just poor. Crysis was developed to be a graphics powerhouse, CoD wasn't, isn't and probably will never be.

I love Crysis, but I think here we are comparing CoD games, not Crysis vs the world.

I GUESS it comes down to personal taste in the end. To me both Crysis and COD look awesome.

CoD even looks better in some parts... while Crysis does in other areas...

some metro

and I end it with one of my crysis screens

and how about some GTA IV

[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"][QUOTE="FelipeInside"]I GUESS it comes down to personal taste in the end. To me both Crysis and COD look awesome. CoD even looks better in some parts...FelipeInside

I don't think the CoD4 engine looks bad at all. It does look good, but it's clear some concessions were made to get it to run at such high framerate for the console versions and that effected how good the PC version looks in comparison. If there was one thing I would add to the non-graphical parts of the CoD4 engine, it would be realistic ballistics (gravity). As far as graphics go, first, I'd add tessellation, which would nicely clean up some of the rough geometry. Third, I'd improve on the shaders and textures they use, as Crysis still has the most amazing looking vegetation with semi-transparencies and amazing texture work, and texturing is one of CoD4's biggest weaknesses, as the maps are fairly high in resolution, or well look that way. The actual artistry is good though, but clearly held back by console limitations. You can further see this in how the consoles use what looks to be bilinear or trilinear texture filtering, which looks horrid, but does ease up on the limited texturing capabilities for the 360 and PS3.

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"] This must be a joke.........somegtalover

You know how some people like older game graphics? It's kinda like that.

No one said CoD was good on the technical side of graphics, but it makes use of what it has WELL.

IN MY OPINION, they have a certain charm, and i said before MW2. MW2 uses far too much shiny and is over the top in that respect, but CoD4 and CoD2 create a gritty war atmosphere, which is what they are all about.

We're not freaking talking about what game has the best graphics here.

Everyone and their mother knows for a FACT that CRYSIS is the best game GRAPHICALLY in the whole world.

I can't believe we are even discussing this in the PC section.

The guy asked about the COD GAME ENGINES and whether we were still on the same ones as previous games, the answer is yes, Crysis, get out of this topic.

[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"][QUOTE="FelipeInside"] So you're saying that if a game DOESN'T have a lot of Physics or a lot of Things going on screen it looks bad?FelipeInside

Noooo nothing looks bad here at all.

I think EVERYTHING needs an improvement

[QUOTE="somegtalover"]

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"] No Joke.... some interior areas in CoD, as well as the ice level in MW2 look pretty amazing to me...lucfonzy

You know how some people like older game graphics? It's kinda like that.

No one said CoD was good on the technical side of graphics, but it makes use of what it has WELL.

IN MY OPINION, they have a certain charm, and i said before MW2. MW2 uses far too much shiny and is over the top in that respect, but CoD4 and CoD2 create a gritty war atmosphere, which is what they are all about.

We're not freaking talking about what game has the best graphics here.

Everyone and their mother knows for a FACT that CRYSIS is the best game GRAPHICALLY in the whole world.

I can't believe we are even discussing this in the PC section.

The guy asked about the COD GAME ENGINES and whether we were still on the same ones as previous games, the answer is yes, Crysis, get out of this topic.

Holy freaking ****

Crysis says hello guys! We are in the PC section talking about something thats not to do with a graphics king but guess what, Crysis says "HELLO!" SMARMY WAVE.

[QUOTE="somegtalover"]

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"] No Joke.... some interior areas in CoD, as well as the ice level in MW2 look pretty amazing to me...lucfonzy

You know how some people like older game graphics? It's kinda like that.

No one said CoD was good on the technical side of graphics, but it makes use of what it has WELL.

IN MY OPINION, they have a certain charm, and i said before MW2. MW2 uses far too much shiny and is over the top in that respect, but CoD4 and CoD2 create a gritty war atmosphere, which is what they are all about.

We're not freaking talking about what game has the best graphics here.

Everyone and their mother knows for a FACT that CRYSIS is the best game GRAPHICALLY in the whole world.

I can't believe we are even discussing this in the PC section.

The guy asked about the COD GAME ENGINES and whether we were still on the same ones as previous games, the answer is yes, Crysis, get out of this topic.

I have never said CoD looks ugly. Just when he said it looks better in places than Crysis, I was surprised.SF_KiLLaMaN

[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"]I have never said CoD looks ugly. Just when he said it looks better in places than Crysis, I was surprised.FelipeInside

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"]I have never said CoD looks ugly. Just when he said it looks better in places than Crysis, I was surprised.SF_KiLLaMaN

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"]I have never said CoD looks ugly. Just when he said it looks better in places than Crysis, I was surprised.SF_KiLLaMaN

I'd like to point out that he was never talking about the "best of this" or the "best of that" he was talking about whether CoD black ops uses the same engine as Modern Warfare 2.

When it comes down to the best, dude, it's pretty much always personal preference, especially if we are talking about the atmosphere a game creates.

[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"][QUOTE="FelipeInside"] Well, maybe I expressed myself wrong. What I mean is that the atmosphere in some places with CoD is done really really well... (yes yes, Crysis too boys). And of course with atmosphere, sound, graphics, colour....all that comes into play...lucfonzy

I'd like to point out that he was never talking about the "best of this" or the "best of that" he was talking about whether CoD black ops uses the same engine as Modern Warfare 2.

When it comes down to the best, dude, it's pretty much always personal preference, especially if we are talking about the atmosphere a game creates.

[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"][QUOTE="FelipeInside"] Well, maybe I expressed myself wrong. What I mean is that the atmosphere in some places with CoD is done really really well... (yes yes, Crysis too boys). And of course with atmosphere, sound, graphics, colour....all that comes into play...somegtalover

Once Activision smells money you're doomed. Look what happened to Guitar Hero.

[QUOTE="lucfonzy"]

[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"] Well if you are going by atmosphere then STALKER Call of Pripyat is the best looking game ever made......somegtalover

I'd like to point out that he was never talking about the "best of this" or the "best of that" he was talking about whether CoD black ops uses the same engine as Modern Warfare 2.

When it comes down to the best, dude, it's pretty much always personal preference, especially if we are talking about the atmosphere a game creates.

I really don't believe CoD's downfall has anything to do with IW.

[QUOTE="somegtalover"][QUOTE="lucfonzy"]

I'd like to point out that he was never talking about the "best of this" or the "best of that" he was talking about whether CoD black ops uses the same engine as Modern Warfare 2.

When it comes down to the best, dude, it's pretty much always personal preference, especially if we are talking about the atmosphere a game creates.

lucfonzy

I really don't believe CoD's downfall has anything to do with IW.

It did, there are qoutes from interviews of them mocking Pc gaming and gamers. They ruined the series for no reason, all because they are idiots.

Watch Respawn is going to create the same **** game with EA.

They've essentially been using the same engine since COD2.

If you actually have any attention to detail you'll probably notice the game feels flat - it doesnt have those features that newer games have which make it turly immersive.

They've essentially been using the same engine since COD2.

If you actually have any attention to detail you'll probably notice the game feels flat - it doesnt have those features that newer games have which make it turly immersive.

sammysalsa

Aren't they still on the same engine they used for COD2? Which was just a modified unreal engine?

lucfonzy

NO, it a completely different it's refered toas the "Modern Warfare engine" and not releated to the Unreal Engine as CoD2 was.

[QUOTE="lucfonzy"]

Aren't they still on the same engine they used for COD2? Which was just a modified unreal engine?

lge777

NO, it a completely different it's refered toas the "Modern Warfare engine" and not releated to the Unreal Engine as CoD2 was.

Still based off of Quake 3 engine, slap with their own coding and cranked up the texture on character/weapons. If you look closely @ some of the walls on mw/mw2 you can see blurry texture thats lazy work, their games were dated @ their release. Same old thing since the first installment.