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#51 w00tcolors169
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I wouldn't be shocked if the PC version still ends up with dedicated servers. The no-dedicated servers comment was probably in response to a lot of console players complaining about the poor hit detection in Black Ops, and now they are demanding dedicated servers themselves.

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#53 FelipeInside
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I wouldn't be shocked if the PC version still ends up with dedicated servers. The no-dedicated servers comment was probably in response to a lot of console players complaining about the poor hit detection in Black Ops, and now they are demanding dedicated servers themselves.

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FINALLY someone with sense !!! Exactly, we don't know all the details yet.... it might come with dedicated servers or not.
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#55 nintendog66
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And...? Call of Duty has become the lowest common denominator in quality gaming entertainment. It's just a sad excuse of a gaming franchise, it's sole purpose is to milk money off of unsuspecting customers. Nothing to see here, move along.
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#56 FelipeInside
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And...? Call of Duty has become the lowest common denominator in quality gaming entertainment. It's just a sad excuse of a gaming franchise, it's sole purpose is to milk money off of unsuspecting customers. Nothing to see here, move along.nintendog66

Maybe I'm naive or I just don't expect every game to be revolutionary....

I know it's personal taste, but you truly believe the CoD Single Player Campaigns were not entertaining...?

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#57 Rattlesnake_8
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It amazes me how much they are hurting themselves.. trying to convince people a subscription model is a good idea, and then not even having dedicated servers? wow.
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#58 mitu123
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[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]I DON'T BELIEVE IT I might be proven wrong but this would be a bad move for the company. Don't you guys maybe think this webpage just made that up so it could get hits.....?

After MW2 anything is possible, but I still don't believe it until I see it.
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#59 Cranler
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I wouldn't be shocked if the PC version still ends up with dedicated servers. The no-dedicated servers comment was probably in response to a lot of console players complaining about the poor hit detection in Black Ops, and now they are demanding dedicated servers themselves.

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This is possible, especially when considering that Gears 3 and BF 3 console version will have dedicated servers
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[QUOTE="nintendog66"]And...? Call of Duty has become the lowest common denominator in quality gaming entertainment. It's just a sad excuse of a gaming franchise, it's sole purpose is to milk money off of unsuspecting customers. Nothing to see here, move along.FelipeInside

Maybe I'm naive or I just don't expect every game to be revolutionary....

I know it's personal taste, but you truly believe the CoD Single Player Campaigns were not entertaining...?

you really buy these games for the SP... lmao.
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#62 JangoWuzHere
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[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]

[QUOTE="nintendog66"]And...? Call of Duty has become the lowest common denominator in quality gaming entertainment. It's just a sad excuse of a gaming franchise, it's sole purpose is to milk money off of unsuspecting customers. Nothing to see here, move along.sexygirl6t9

Maybe I'm naive or I just don't expect every game to be revolutionary....

I know it's personal taste, but you truly believe the CoD Single Player Campaigns were not entertaining...?

you really buy these games for the SP... lmao.

Why not? The single player portion of Call of Duty is quite good, throw in modes like spec ops and zombies and it stands well on its own.

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#64 Tsuanthony
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and a few days ago I thought they were going to have dedicated servers... k i'll pass now
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#65 zeta
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Wait a minute... this is coming from the folks who got the Perk situation wrong.

on the flipside, If I had a greedy hand into this game, I would keep dedi's off of COD too... it's sad that success led to neglecting an entire community.

****In fact, this is the same article where they screwed up the Perks. IW quickly responded to this article as wrong.

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#66 theafiguy
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Hmm, this is a disappointment. I wasn't planning on getting MW3 regardless since BF3 is coming out around the same time so I'll probably be hooked on that. There are only a couple of games coming out this year that I really care about, and that's pretty much RO2 and BF3 at this point. I'll just play Black Ops or the original MW if I really want to play a CoD game.
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"Mom! Dad! It's Evil! Don't touch it!"

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#68 biggest_loser
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[QUOTE="airshocker"]

Is anyone even stupid enough to buy MW3 on the PC? I hope not. You need only look at the way MW2 and Black Ops ran at launch---abysmally, FYI---to see why NO ONE should buy this game on the PC.

If you do I have absolutely no sympathy for the nightmare you're going to have.

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I'll be getting it on PC. Had no issues with MW2.... Black Ops had performance issues, but were fixed with the patch.

You didn't have a problem with not being able to choose your maps? Did you try any of the party features? Also, even after the patch I found that very few people were getting pings under 40 with black ops.
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#69 FelipeInside
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[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="airshocker"]

Is anyone even stupid enough to buy MW3 on the PC? I hope not. You need only look at the way MW2 and Black Ops ran at launch---abysmally, FYI---to see why NO ONE should buy this game on the PC.

If you do I have absolutely no sympathy for the nightmare you're going to have.

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I'll be getting it on PC. Had no issues with MW2.... Black Ops had performance issues, but were fixed with the patch.

You didn't have a problem with not being able to choose your maps? Did you try any of the party features? Also, even after the patch I found that very few people were getting pings under 40 with black ops.

Choose my maps in BO or MW2 sorry? The part feature worked fine for me in both MW2 and BO.... only problem I had once was in MW2 I couldn't join my Steam friends...all I had to do was rebuild the Steam Cache and it started working for me. Ping was fine for me in MW2 as long as I got put in an Australian Server.... Black Ops was bad at the start but fixed with the patch.
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#70 biggest_loser
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[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="biggest_loser"][QUOTE="FelipeInside"] I'll be getting it on PC. Had no issues with MW2.... Black Ops had performance issues, but were fixed with the patch.

You didn't have a problem with not being able to choose your maps? Did you try any of the party features? Also, even after the patch I found that very few people were getting pings under 40 with black ops.

Choose my maps in BO or MW2 sorry? The part feature worked fine for me in both MW2 and BO.... only problem I had once was in MW2 I couldn't join my Steam friends...all I had to do was rebuild the Steam Cache and it started working for me. Ping was fine for me in MW2 as long as I got put in an Australian Server.... Black Ops was bad at the start but fixed with the patch.

MW2. I tried inviting friends off steam and it just wouldn't work. It'd time out and the lobbys would close.
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#71 Vesica_Prime
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Battlefield 3 was already looking ten times better than Modern Warfare 3. This is just the nail in the coffin.

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#72 Evz0rz
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[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]

[QUOTE="nintendog66"]And...? Call of Duty has become the lowest common denominator in quality gaming entertainment. It's just a sad excuse of a gaming franchise, it's sole purpose is to milk money off of unsuspecting customers. Nothing to see here, move along.sexygirl6t9

Maybe I'm naive or I just don't expect every game to be revolutionary....

I know it's personal taste, but you truly believe the CoD Single Player Campaigns were not entertaining...?

you really buy these games for the SP... lmao.

I enjoy them too is that a problem?

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#73 dakan45
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I think there is this IW guy who confirmed that the leaked info was false and he confrimed that there wont be stopping power pro, or one man army, or commando, or tactical nuke. So, i am skeptical about the whole "no dedicated servers" Its too early to tell, but as far as i am concerned, its better that way. MW2 was less laggy than black ops despite not having dedis. Also i dont want to see what i saw in cod 4, overpopulated maps filled with pro mod crap. I want the actual game not modded crap.
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#74 biggest_loser
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I think there is this IW guy who confirmed that the leaked info was false and he confrimed that there wont be stopping power pro, or one man army, or commando, or tactical nuke. So, i am skeptical about the whole "no dedicated servers" Its too early to tell, but as far as i am concerned, its better that way. MW2 was less laggy than black ops despite not having dedis. Also i dont want to see what i saw in cod 4, overpopulated maps filled with pro mod crap. I want the actual game not modded crap.dakan45
They confirmed the perks were fake but when asked about the servers they wouldn't comment. I mean, what does that tell you? If it was untrue why wouldn't they just say so? And you'd really support no servers again? Not being able to choose your maps, less maps, connection issues with parties, stopping mid game for a new host. You can just filter modded servers.
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I DON'T BELIEVE IT I might be proven wrong but this would be a bad move for the company. Don't you guys maybe think this webpage just made that up so it could get hits.....?FelipeInside

i dont know after all im seeing is like activision thinks they can do whatever they want and still sell

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#76 DanielDust
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[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]I DON'T BELIEVE IT I might be proven wrong but this would be a bad move for the company. Don't you guys maybe think this webpage just made that up so it could get hits.....?Krelian-co

i dont know after all im seeing is like activision thinks they can do whatever they want and still sell

Yep, true, even if this is not fake and it's true, MW 3 will outsell BF 3 on PC by a landslide, overall on all platforms BF 3 will be terrible in terms of sales compared to MW 3, I wonder if even charging for every minute of CoD would be able to make people reconsider buying them.
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#77 dakan45
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[QUOTE="dakan45"]I think there is this IW guy who confirmed that the leaked info was false and he confrimed that there wont be stopping power pro, or one man army, or commando, or tactical nuke. So, i am skeptical about the whole "no dedicated servers" Its too early to tell, but as far as i am concerned, its better that way. MW2 was less laggy than black ops despite not having dedis. Also i dont want to see what i saw in cod 4, overpopulated maps filled with pro mod crap. I want the actual game not modded crap.biggest_loser
They confirmed the perks were fake but when asked about the servers they wouldn't comment. I mean, what does that tell you? If it was untrue why wouldn't they just say so? And you'd really support no servers again? Not being able to choose your maps, less maps, connection issues with parties, stopping mid game for a new host. You can just filter modded servers.

Better than the abused dedis in cod4 with moded gameplay and overpopulated maps. Also black ops had dedis and... yeah, id rather to be like mw2. Its too early to tell though, pc features are 90% of the time subject to change till the last month of development, sometimes even days.
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#78 DanielDust
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Better than the abused dedis in cod4 with moded gameplay and overpopulated maps. Also black ops had dedis and... yeah, id rather to be like mw2. Its too early to tell though, pc features are 90% of the time subject to change till the last month of development, sometimes even days.dakan45
That's the beauty of dedicated servers you play what you want, don't tell me somebody forced you to play 64 player servers (I assume that's what you mean by overpopulated maps) or servers that change gameplay, you're not even forced to play custom maps without gameplay changes. CoD 4 is the definition of "ultimate CoD multiplayer" because of what it does, it's not bad because it does exactly that as you say.

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#79 dakan45
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[QUOTE="dakan45"] Better than the abused dedis in cod4 with moded gameplay and overpopulated maps. Also black ops had dedis and... yeah, id rather to be like mw2. Its too early to tell though, pc features are 90% of the time subject to change till the last month of development, sometimes even days.DanielDust

That's the beauty of dedicated servers you play what you want, don't tell me somebody forced you to play 64 player servers (I assume that's what you mean by overpopulated maps) or servers that change gameplay, you're not even forced to play custom maps without gameplay changes. CoD 4 is the definition of "ultimate CoD multiplayer" because of what it does, it's not bad because it does exactly that as you say.

Yes someone "forced" me. itts YOU that abused cod 4 mp by modding it to thell and back. Same story with counter strike, its impossible to find a vanilla server. Id rather join a lobby and wait for people who want to play the vanilla game to gather up and play the damn game already. The rest, can go to Alteriwnet and do whatever he hell they want. I only hope this time there is a way to kick hackers.
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#80 DanielDust
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Weird, my copy of CoD 4 multiplayer doesn't do that, yours must be paired with systems adequate for those types of baseless argumentations. If there is something that's forcing you to play in a certain way, it's matchmaking. You can't tell me that you read a single word of the server name if you say you're forced to play mods, modded servers are name accordingly, you're right, randomly pressing the lowest ping servers is similar to matchmaking and in a way it forces you to play certain maps and modes, but I know for a fact, most people (yes, all) that play on dedicated servers watch out for the ping and server name, then they choose/avoid as for CS, that's not going to happen, almost all the active servers are on Dust 2, the rest have all the maps set on a rotation and the miscellaneous others have mods (especially zombie mods) and other custom maps. Also, that's what happens when games last more than 11-12 months, and have mod tools, they get maps, the good CoD games would be even less active than the almost dead World at War if players had only the same few maps. The best question now, would be "why are you forcing yourself to play on what you don't want to, because you want to have arguments that don't exist against dedicated servers?"...oh wait, now that sounds rhetorical.
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#81 FelipeInside
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I just like the server of MW2 cause I just pressed PLAY, sat back and waited for my game to start... Didn't have to go through adding servers by IP Address.... finding a server that wasn't HD, finding a server that wasn't empty..... reading the description of each server to make sure it was the way I wanted to play. Sure, IWNet had it's issues....but comfortable wise it was great....if they can fix the lag/hackers/admin tools then I'm all for it.
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#82 RandomGSer
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....no. IWNet ruined CoD PC. Anyone still playing CoD on PC is crazy. Serious players moved on, hence hackers everywhere, no way to police them..... It is useless trying to play any kind of serious game on IWNet, with such latency, host drops, errors etcetcetcetc. You spend more time in the stupid lobby than actually playing. Not to mention the party system is broken, making clan matches stupidly hard to organize. IMO the game is unplayable on IWNet.
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#83 DavidianMH
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:lol: Well, there's another game I'll be skipping this year...
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#84 DanielDust
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....no. IWNet ruined CoD PC. Anyone still playing CoD on PC is crazy. Serious players moved on, hence hackers everywhere, no way to police them..... It is useless trying to play any kind of serious game on IWNet, with such latency, host drops, errors etcetcetcetc. You spend more time in the stupid lobby than actually playing. Not to mention the party system is broken, making clan matches stupidly hard to organize. IMO the game is unplayable on IWNet. RandomGSer
(talking about clans and friends and such) Of course, they now have the elite subscription that fixes that exact same problem, never again shall you be hindered by IWnet for just one small subscription fee, it revolutionizes online gaming. Especially because of this, MW 3 not having dedicated servers is extremely plausible.

Sure, IWNet had it's issues....but comfortable wise it was great....if they can fix the lag/hackers/admin tools then I'm all for it.

They'd have to start from scratch since what they did will never be able to do such a thing ;), the MW 2 free weekend was the worst experience I had with online matchmaking ever and that is before having the worst online experience ever, going through 12 servers, 12 loading screens, disconnects, hosts dropped, lag disconnects, etc to reach one server that provided awkward substandard gameplay, was lucky the second time, went through just 4 servers and that was probably when it was most active.
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#85 lordlunch2
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Maybe It's just because my internet is bad A, but I never really had any trouble with Modern Warfare 2's multiplayer. Yes, it didn't work near as well as dedicated but I didn't see the reason behind the insane backlash. With that said, IW must be insane to do it again. Personally I don't care and still plan on getting it, but I now know the multiplayer scene will probably last as long as MW2's...which is on the verge of death.....
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#86 narlymech
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COD1 is still the best of the bunch, all joking aside.

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#87 RandomGSer
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COD1 is still the best of the bunch, all joking aside.

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[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]I just like the server of MW2 cause I just pressed PLAY, sat back and waited for my game to start... Didn't have to go through adding servers by IP Address.... finding a server that wasn't HD, finding a server that wasn't empty..... reading the description of each server to make sure it was the way I wanted to play. Sure, IWNet had it's issues....but comfortable wise it was great....if they can fix the lag/hackers/admin tools then I'm all for it.

Tell me about it, In cod4, the list refreshes all the time, i clicked the first 4 servers "your ping is too high" I click the next 4 and they are moded. Godamn it, i just wanna play the game It trully is disrurbing when you can find sooo many servers and all of them dont let you play the vanilla game.
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#89 TruedUp
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Even if all those things in the first few pages were true, MW3 would still outsell everything in the world 10 to 1, plus 10 million suprscriptions.
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[QUOTE="dakan45"][QUOTE="FelipeInside"]I just like the server of MW2 cause I just pressed PLAY, sat back and waited for my game to start... Didn't have to go through adding servers by IP Address.... finding a server that wasn't HD, finding a server that wasn't empty..... reading the description of each server to make sure it was the way I wanted to play. Sure, IWNet had it's issues....but comfortable wise it was great....if they can fix the lag/hackers/admin tools then I'm all for it.

Tell me about it, In cod4, the list refreshes all the time, i clicked the first 4 servers "your ping is too high" I click the next 4 and they are moded. Godamn it, i just wanna play the game It trully is disrurbing when you can find sooo many servers and all of them dont let you play the vanilla game.

Filters. Use them. I used them in BO to turn off DLC maps, turn off Hardcore mode and almost always I found a server to my liking.
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#91 nintendog66
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[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]

[QUOTE="nintendog66"]And...? Call of Duty has become the lowest common denominator in quality gaming entertainment. It's just a sad excuse of a gaming franchise, it's sole purpose is to milk money off of unsuspecting customers. Nothing to see here, move along.sexygirl6t9

Maybe I'm naive or I just don't expect every game to be revolutionary....

I know it's personal taste, but you truly believe the CoD Single Player Campaigns were not entertaining...?

you really buy these games for the SP... lmao.

Surely one can lump together the Fast and Furious movie series with the "modern" Call of Duty, they serve the exact same purpose. Show big guns, big explosions, mediocre acting and story, mindless non-sensical fast paced action to "Wow" the masses and reap profits.

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#92 Wasdie  Moderator
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Wow really? Blackops even had them! Seriously, lean and dedicated servers. It's not that hard!

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#93 RandomGSer
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[QUOTE="dakan45"][QUOTE="FelipeInside"]I just like the server of MW2 cause I just pressed PLAY, sat back and waited for my game to start... Didn't have to go through adding servers by IP Address.... finding a server that wasn't HD, finding a server that wasn't empty..... reading the description of each server to make sure it was the way I wanted to play. Sure, IWNet had it's issues....but comfortable wise it was great....if they can fix the lag/hackers/admin tools then I'm all for it.

Tell me about it, In cod4, the list refreshes all the time, i clicked the first 4 servers "your ping is too high" I click the next 4 and they are moded. Godamn it, i just wanna play the game It trully is disrurbing when you can find sooo many servers and all of them dont let you play the vanilla game.

You have 17k posts and a beasty rig. You must be fairly into gaming. SURELY its not to much to ask you to take FIVE MINUTES and learn how to use a dedicated server browser. The browser in CoD4 was never perfect but using the filters and add to favourites button you can get at least a few populated servers up of your fave gametype/maps in SECONDS. In the long run it will save you literally HOURS of wasted lobby time. l2pfps
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#94 PurpleMan5000
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I can't believe pc gamers actually still buy this game, dedicated servers or not.
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#95 Bikouchu35
Member since 2009 • 8344 Posts

I hope this rumour is true... Cause if it was all fake.... and this MASSIVE hate forum was all pointless.....FelipeInside

We will see, we could all get trolled by Kotaku for all we know.

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#96 Miroku32
Member since 2006 • 8666 Posts

Well, I have never bought a CoD game so I dont care at all. Still, sucks for PC CoD fans.

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#97 TerrorRizzing
Member since 2010 • 4232 Posts

are they talking about the pc version though?

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#98 theafiguy
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Because consoles have dedicated servers like PC's do right? Even so, most console gamers don't know the difference and if people told you that they didn't have dedicated servers they'd just say "Are there noob tubes?"
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#99 zeta
Member since 2003 • 1189 Posts

COD1 is still the best of the bunch, all joking aside.

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COD1 is still the best of the bunch, all joking aside.

RandomGSer
wow, do I miss bolt actions on Hurtgen!

Still living that tradition. IW can't make maps like Hurtgen or Caretan anymore :\ ...or the 64 player mayhem to go with it!
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#100 TerrorRizzing
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Because consoles have dedicated servers like PC's do right? Even so, most console gamers don't know the difference and if people told you that they didn't have dedicated servers they'd just say "Are there noob tubes?"theafiguy
they can, but they usually dont.