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#1 ncderek
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i like how they changed the requirements for crysis. a while ago, they recommended a 1800 to run crysis fairly well and a core 2 duo with 1.5 g of ram, now its the same but a higher ghz for cpu and a 8800 instead of a 1800. thats a huge difference. people with 1800s can max any game out right now, but not crysis. they just basically made this game a whole lot harder to run, makes me mad. when they first released media on it a year ago or so, they said they had 1900's in crossfire, now they want you to have 8800's. i have a feeling this game won't be as fun. i don't plan on ever upgrading again. who else is mad about this? crytec is so happy they finally got it down to where you can play it on a 6800 on crysis on low, which was also min for far cry. but just to run it on high you need something that costs 600 bucks. this was my most hyped game too, until that beta.
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#2 -Origin-
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I'm starting too think that crysis is too much trouble for me.....

Seriously, UT3, Gears for PC, Orange Box and CoD 4 will do me just fine, I wanna play Crysis, but if I can barley run it, whats the point.....

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#3 nutcrackr
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well x1900s in crossfire is probably not far off 8800s, in any case it looks like you are looking at the old estimated system specs on crysis-online, which were just guesses.
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#4 Miles0T0Prower
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I was expecting a 7800gt instead of the 8800 for recommened and alot of people just meet the recommended specs
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#5 kyrieee
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I don't really care. This game is meant to push hardware and graphics and that is what it'll do. The environments are huge too.

If you can't run the game well you don't need to buy it. I don't think there's anything wrong in doing a game with high system requirements. There are many different nichés in which to make games. You shouldn't be upset just because you can't max it. It's not Crytec's fault, I'm sure they're doing everything humanly possible to get it to run as smooth as possible. Would it be better if they made the levels smaller and the graphics worse so that everyone could max it but it wouldn't look as good? I mean come on...

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#6 gs_gear
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I don't get it. :| Why do you complain? You'll still be able to play on high settings with a X1900 but in DX 9.
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#7 VinnoT
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Im seriously just not gonna bother with this game. It really is pathetic what it needs to run.
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#8 onemic
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I remember crytek saying they could max the game out with a 7800GT at a good frame rate. What a pile of bs that was.
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#9 bignice12
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I remember crytek saying they could max the game out with a 7800GT at a good frame rate. What a pile of bs that was. onemic

They said a 7800GT should play Crysis on high on a reasonable resolution but not maxed out. Ya what a pile of BS that was....even tho the game isn't even out....

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#10 sherbert-lime
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get quake wars instead, it looks amazing and the specs are so low, i cant run any of these "next gen pc games" until quake wars came along, and it's by no means lacking detail
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#11 onemic
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[QUOTE="onemic"]I remember crytek saying they could max the game out with a 7800GT at a good frame rate. What a pile of bs that was. bignice12

They said a 7800GT should play Crysis on high on a reasonable resolution but not maxed out. Ya what a pile of BS that was....even tho the game isn't even out....

yes what a pile of bs it was. They already released the recommended and minimum specs, and have stated that an 8800GTS is good to run it on high settings. The very high settings are basically for future hardware(Meaning 9800 series). Where does that leave the 7800GT? Most likely at medium settings.

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#12 Deihmos
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I remember crytek saying they could max the game out with a 7800GT at a good frame rate. What a pile of bs that was. onemic

They actually said that or was it just another internet rumor?

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#13 StephenHu
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I'm not mad, they just made the graphics even higher, so max settings would be 8800 and before with the 1800, the max settings looks like medium high compared to the newest build.
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#14 onemic
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[QUOTE="onemic"]I remember crytek saying they could max the game out with a 7800GT at a good frame rate. What a pile of bs that was. Deihmos

They actually said that or was it just another internet rumor?

Ya crytek actually said it. I got the link from mrbojangles, but I can't remember it.

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[QUOTE="bignice12"]

[QUOTE="onemic"]I remember crytek saying they could max the game out with a 7800GT at a good frame rate. What a pile of bs that was. onemic

They said a 7800GT should play Crysis on high on a reasonable resolution but not maxed out. Ya what a pile of BS that was....even tho the game isn't even out....

yes what a pile of bs it was. They already released the recommended and minimum specs, and have stated that an 8800GTS is good to run it on high settings. The very high settings are basically for future hardware(Meaning 9800 series). Where does that leave the 7800GT? Most likely at medium settings.

Tha is ridiculous. I have an 8000 GTS 320MB and I would like as many people as possible regardless of their specs to play this game at a great quality.

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#16 rimnet00
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As PC gamers, you should all know by know. You get, what you pay for. Just because you have to play on a lower setting, doesn't mean the graphics are worse. The game is still going to look, as it should. In other words, using your hardware to the best of it's abilities. No PC can run on 'high' settings forever, since every new engine will always be cutting edge, and will require the most bleeding edge technology there is to get the most out of it. Why shouldn't it? Just because the game has features that your hardware is not capable of producing, why would you get mad at this for it?

This is like expecting Shader 3.0 in non-Shader 3.0 cards, or expecting the Nintendo Wii's version of Madden to look as good as the 360's.... Foolish.

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#17 ncderek
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you guys are missing the argument. no , i dont want crysis to look worse or have smaller levels just so people can play it. i am a graphics whore, i really am, ive always thought those mattered a lot. thats why i always bought whatever the best graphics card was at the time every time ive bought a pc, but im done with pc's, just bought a 360 a few days ago and love it. but my argument is, look at bioshock, looks amazing, and runs great on 1680 all maxed out with everything maxed out, ran great, looked great. and crysis doesnt look better or worse than bioshock, both have their goods and bads, and crysis is so much more demanding. crysis on medium settings doesnt look any better than far cry, a 4 year old game. the online population will probably be small after a month of release, just like far cry, and eventually will probably be full of hackers and glitches. and whoever said i would be able to max out dx9 settings with my rig, i wish, i thought id be able to, but that beta ran like crap for everyone, how dissapointing, such hype before that beta. why make a game that cant be maxed out yet? they say theres not even hardware out that can fully push what it is capable of. who cares. they did that to doom3, and who waited for new vid cards to replay doom3 again? not many people. i beat it 3 times with my 9800xt, did i ever try it out with my new rig to see what the makers were talking about, no. anyways, im just really disapointed, i was really looking forward to this game.
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#19 ChocoKat
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Im seriously just not gonna bother with this game. It really is pathetic what it needs to run.VinnoT

What I am to be pathetic is the gameplay footage. All I see is another boring game like FarCry.

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#20 kyrieee
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As PC gamers, you should all know by know. You get, what you pay for. Just because you have to play on a lower setting, doesn't mean the graphics are worse. The game is still going to look, as it should. In other words, using your hardware to the best of it's abilities. No PC can run on 'high' settings forever, since every new engine will always be cutting edge, and will require the most bleeding edge technology there is to get the most out of it. Why shouldn't it? Just because the game has features that your hardware is not capable of producing, why would you get mad at this for it?

This is like expecting Shader 3.0 in non-Shader 3.0 cards, or expecting the Nintendo Wii's version of Madden to look as good as the 360's.... Foolish.

rimnet00

Precisely, that's what I tried to say. Complaining about not being able to run crysis on high, especially before the game is even out, is just silly. If you can't run it at high, then that means that either the graphics are good on lower settings too, or there's a ton of other cool stuff going on, or the game is poorly optimized, which I doubt it'll be. You can't get mad because you can't max it out, it just means they've done more cool stuff than what today's computers can handle. It's like complaining about not being able to run a pixar movie quality game in real time.

edit: well why don't you just wait until you've played the final optimized version of the game before complaining about its performance. Crysis does SO MUCH MORE than BioShock in terms of technology. Crysis attempts to push boundaries on all fronts. You can't say "BioShock looks really good and so does Crysis, I should be able to run them both really well". BioShock does small contained static indoor environments. Crysis does massive interactive outdoor environments with incredible draw distances and AI that can adapt as the environment changes. The AI is also fundamentally different from almost all games because they actually simulate senses which requires line of sight, visibility calculations and sound sensoratory calculations too. Crysis is just such a more bold game technology wise, you can't compare it to BioShock. Why are you making assumptions about Crysis online community prior to release? This is getting silly.

edit2: maybe you should do your homework before you post. The future proofing graphics options aren't enabled as of yet. They will be through future patches as new hardware is released. And again, judging the game's performance by the beta is stupid, performance can vary extremely much from build to build and the purpose of the beta wasn't to test the graphics optimization anyway. What you're REALLY complaining about is today's hardware not being good enough.

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#21 purple_MAN1832
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the game does look amazing, but with my current rig it think ill barely be able to get it to play at medium settings. Hopefully some tweaks will be out by christmas when i plan on getting the game
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#22 The_PC_Gamer
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[QUOTE="bignice12"]

[QUOTE="onemic"]I remember crytek saying they could max the game out with a 7800GT at a good frame rate. What a pile of bs that was. onemic

They said a 7800GT should play Crysis on high on a reasonable resolution but not maxed out. Ya what a pile of BS that was....even tho the game isn't even out....

yes what a pile of bs it was. They already released the recommended and minimum specs, and have stated that an 8800GTS is good to run it on high settings. The very high settings are basically for future hardware(Meaning 9800 series). Where does that leave the 7800GT? Most likely at medium settings.

k, and whats wrong with medium settings on your year+ old card? Technology moves forward...

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#23 FordLynx
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It looks like Crysis preferred nVidia chipsets than ATi's but that won't be a bother. I just really hope that the game will run just fine and still enjoyable even running on minimum specs for those players that doesn't have an expensive built rig.
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#24 mrbojangles25
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Well, considering the game is still unoptimized and not even released yet, I dont think anyone has the right to be angry.

As for the requirements, looks like you might have to lower the resolution a notch or two or *gasp* cut out a few things. The game ran horribly on my 8800GTS 320MB version at 1680x1050 with everything on high, but then I just turned shadows to low and now it runs silky smooth!

These high end games just require a few minutes of tweaking, thats all. But as with most things, wait for the demo before making wild and unfounded accusations.

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#25 Gekko101
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Here is my beef with crysis I am running the beta at medium settings 1280X1024 I get 20FPS at he MOST avg is 10-15

I got a 7900GS(OC'd the hell out of it)

Gig for ram

X3800+X2

Now I know its not the best system in the world but with a few mods far cry(2004) ends up looking better on my system than crysis (laggy and jaggy at the same time on Medium!)

Now I run games like Bioshock fine maxed out 1280X1024 30+ FPS

And im really looking forward to UT3 seens like Epic dident forget about those who are have 7600GT's or hell even 6800's(looking at the unreal system req looks like I will run it good :D)

I just feel like the crysis guys are like " **** they cant max out our game unless they got a 8800 or a X1900xt.....lets change the system req...)
And what about my friend who bought a 8600 thinking he was gonna blaze trough crysis ...running at low/med

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#26 GodLovesDead
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You were led on by fake requirements. All requirements have been rumors up until the beta.
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#27 dgreenheck89
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If developers kept making games that didn't push the limits of the current hardware, then what is the point of coming out with new hardware? Crysis is unique in that it pushes the hardware industry to evolve with it. We should all thank Crysis for speeding the evolution of gaming. I've been waiting years for games that have a completely breakable environments and amazing AI. It's about time a company has come out with breaking-edge technology instead of copying the same crap over and over just to sell more games.
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#28 kyrieee
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Why don't people get it?

I swear this is the final time I will say this:

Beta performance is not indicative of performance of the final game build.

Like Immortal much?

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#29 bignice12
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yes what a pile of bs it was. They already released the recommended and minimum specs, and have stated that an 8800GTS is good to run it on high settings. The very high settings are basically for future hardware(Meaning 9800 series). Where does that leave the 7800GT? Most likely at medium settings.

onemic

Once again you are jumping to conclusions when the game isn't even out. Mim and Recommended specs dont tell you what settings you will play on your particular system. A 7800GT may be able to play Crysis with high settings on a lower resolution like 1024 x 768 and 1280 x 1024, that is what i'm predicting(also assuming your other specs are decent), i'm not sure I haven't played it yet. If you were expecting a higher resolution, then you will have to buy a new card simple as that.

Also, Very high is not reserved for future hardware. In the Q & A here he says:

CY: Players who have DX10 will get a better-looking experience, with all of our settings dialed all the way up, but this will take up more of your hardware's resources. This is what our "Very High" settings are reserved for, and if you have the hardware, we fully recommend it. Our "High" settings can be used by DX10 and DX9 users, and will perform better in DX10, though our DX9 players will have nothing to worry about because we are really pushing that technology to new levels.

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#30 Sky_Raptor
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i find the specs for crysis is just a way to force people out to go buy 8800 cards, witch people did.
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#31 bignice12
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Why don't people get it?

I swear this is the final time I will say this:

Beta performance is not indicative of performance of the final game build.

Like Immortal much?

kyrieee

QFT. I guess this is some peoples first beta or something.

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#32 dbrinto
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I can't believe I can't playCrysis on my Apple IIe. Dang it. I hate Crysis, why didn't they support my Apple IIe. wah wah wah :-( I can't believe you people are actually complaining about a game that takes advantage of the latest technology. It makes no sense.

Here's my plan: buy the game, play it on medium settings or whatever, on my current rig. When prices come down on DX10 cards, or the next gen DX10 cardscome out,I'll get one of those and play the game on max settings. It's not that big of a deal.

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#33 AFBrat77
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I'm just not going to bother with Crysis, I have a 6800 XT with 256 MB RAM, 1 GB system RAM, so I'm right at the minimum requirements, and since I love my card, I'm just going to stick with what I have.

I have plenty of games I can play, and I'm not a graphics-whore either.

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#34 dbrinto
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If developers kept making games that didn't push the limits of the current hardware, then what is the point of coming out with new hardware? Crysis is unique in that it pushes the hardware industry to evolve with it. We should all thank Crysis for speeding the evolution of gaming. I've been waiting years for games that have a completely breakable environments and amazing AI. It's about time a company has come out with breaking-edge technology instead of copying the same crap over and over just to sell more games.dgreenheck89

AMEN

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#35 chandu83
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Just let the game be out people, then we can judge it all we want. It's too early to tell. Who knows the game might be alright on lower cards. We don't know how badly it will perform on lower end cards. Because for all we know, it could still be very good. All I am saying is that there is a definite possibility. So don't worry too much about it,
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#36 wmattm
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Was this not expected of you? Crysis was said to be the most wonderful work of art to date, and they aren't going to let us down. It will take great hardware to run it but in the end will it not be worth it?
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#37 Gekko101
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The prob I have with it is since when have X1900GT's/7900 been lower end cards(hell these are even faster than the 8600's)

I am not buying a 8800 just for one game.

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#38 chandu83
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Exactly, so wait for a while, let it become affordable and then buy it.
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#39 Gekko101
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Exactly, so wait for a while, let it become affordable and then buy it. chandu83

That wait is gonna cost me anyways since I will jump to Dx10 ..there comes a whole new OS also might as well upgrade my X2 3800+ to at least 5000+ black edition and throw in 2 gigs of ram.......upgrade PSU ......hell might as well change the mobo and go core2duo :/

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#40 banedohnoes
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crysis looks good on low
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#41 1005
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I'm not surprised that the recommended requirements for Crysis are as high as they are, we've all known Crysis was going to be pushing the technology for PC gaming as far as it could. So why are people moaning about not being able to run the game on the highest settings etc?

It's not Crytek's fault your PC doesn't meet the requirements for the game on its highest settings. They've done everything they could to try and make the game optimised without sacraficing visual quality and performance. I'm sure Crytek could optimise the game so people with a 7900GS or similar card like me could play Crysis on its max settings. But they would have to sacrafice and cripple this games biggest selling point, its astounding visual quality and performance. Also if they did this then the people with an 8800 series card are alienated from being able to use the full potential of their hardware.

I'd rather Crytek released a game that is pushing the available technology to its limits than release a dumbed down game that doesn't have such astounding visual quality. I accept that with my current GFX card and OS i won't be experiencing the amazing visual quality the game has to offer on its highest settings. However i am happy that at somepoint when i upgrade my PC or invest in a new one that i will one day be able to play Crysis on its highest settings and live the experience.

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#42 szewei85
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u should no by now that hardware upgrading is so important in order 2 get maxxed detail in future gen pc games.this is what pc gaming is all about.if u cant live with that,then **** off n shove your console controller up your @$$.
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#43 spam-Robot
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I have an 8800 GTS 320Mb as well. I get around 40 FPS when standing still shooting, and around 35 FPS whe moving around, this is on high settings, I get around 50 FPS average on medium.
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#44 Gekko101
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Wow the low rec req for this game are CRAZY! (just read them since last update on the req)

Lol gonna need 4gigs quad core 8800SLI to MAX this game out >.>

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#45 bblundell
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I remember crytek saying they could max the game out with a 7800GT at a good frame rate. What a pile of bs that was. onemic

I agree I'm running a 7800GT with AMD X2 5200+, 2GB DDR2 and the beta was pitiful.

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#46 mismajor99
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People need to take a chill pill or a drink and relax. To make a judgment about how the game will run BEFORE the demo hits is extremely premature. Hold it together for now. Remember, the beta right now is NOT how the final code will play. I'm confident Crytek can pull it off.
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#47 mimic-Denmark
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Ive not tried the beta because i have a midrange pc, but i can run games like fear to its fullest so im not that keen on upgrading right now since graphics have pretty much looked great since 2004, so graphics isnt that big of deal with me more in games.

From what i have seen of crysis then the only real thing that actually impressed me a little was the wild life :) I just think its cool to get those elements into a game too, the graphics look great but what dosnt these days as i said. And frankly i know crysis goes for a more photorealistic graphics but judging from screenshots then i actually prefer far crys look, far cry looks much more colorful.

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#48 CubePrime_basic
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[QUOTE="VinnoT"]Im seriously just not gonna bother with this game. It really is pathetic what it needs to run.ChocoKat

What I am to be pathetic is the gameplay footage. All I see is another boring game like FarCry.

FarCry boring? tell me, what game do you find teh supar funz?

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#49 CubePrime_basic
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i like how they changed the requirements for crysis. a while ago, they recommended a 1800 to run crysis fairly well and a core 2 duo with 1.5 g of ram, now its the same but a higher ghz for cpu and a 8800 instead of a 1800. thats a huge difference. people with 1800s can max any game out right now, but not crysis. they just basically made this game a whole lot harder to run, makes me mad. when they first released media on it a year ago or so, they said they had 1900's in crossfire, now they want you to have 8800's. i have a feeling this game won't be as fun. i don't plan on ever upgrading again. who else is mad about this? crytec is so happy they finally got it down to where you can play it on a 6800 on crysis on low, which was also min for far cry. but just to run it on high you need something that costs 600 bucks. this was my most hyped game too, until that beta.ncderek
You sound like you are about to cry... "i don't plan on ever upgrading again" what is this? because some of your settings will be set to medium? are you insane?

erh... just appreciate thefckin IMMENSE work that has been put into this game... wow just wow

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#50 Swiftstrike5
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Yeah, recommended is a bit too high. I guess thats EA at work. Promising more than Crytek can deliever.