My planned rig,want a second opinion

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#1 Flamingthief
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This is what I have planned so far but i would like a second opinion

Tower:Thermaltake-Soprano Mid-Tower Case

Motherboard:ATX Desktop AMD Phenom II Motherboard(Socket AM3)

CPU:AMD-Deneb Phenom II X4 Processor 945

Graphic card:XFX-ATI Radeon HD 4890 1GB DDR5 PCI Express 2.0

OS: Windows 7 Home Premium

Harddrive:Western Digital-Caviar Black 1TB Internal Serial ATA

Fan:Corsair-Hydro Series H50 CPU Cooler

Memory:Corsair-4-Pack 2GB PC3-12800 DDR3 DIMM

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what mobo are you getting
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#3 Flamingthief
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? if u mean mother board,sorry this gonna be my first rig, i listed it

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#4 -GeordiLaForge-
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Definitely dump that 4890 and get a 5770... I just put this in another post, but I'll show it to you as well. DX11 games are going to look ridiculously better using DX11 video cards.... DX11 tessellation OFF...DX11 tessellation ON...
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#5 UltimateGamer95
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This is what I have planned so far but i would like a second opinion

Tower:Thermaltake-Soprano Mid-Tower Case

Motherboard:ATX Desktop AMD Phenom II Motherboard(Socket AM3)

CPU:AMD-Deneb Phenom II X4 Processor 945

Graphic card:XFX-ATI Radeon HD 4890 1GB DDR5 PCI Express 2.0

OS: Windows 7 Home Premium

Harddrive:Western Digital-Caviar Black 1TB Internal Serial ATA

Fan:Corsair-Hydro Series H50 CPU Cooler

Memory:Corsair-4-Pack 2GB PC3-12800 DDR3 DIMM

Flamingthief

That case is a tad on the small side. You might want to get something bigger such as the NZXT Lexa S or the Cooler Master CM 690 ;)

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#6 -GeordiLaForge-
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That case is a tad on the small side. You might want to get something bigger such as the NZXT Lexa S or the Cooler Master CM 690 ;)

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Good call. The 690 is on sale for $39.99 w/ free shipping at Newegg!! GREAT deal....
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#7 Flamingthief
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is there a store a can get this from, I am only 16 so I don't have a credit card and my parent are sceptical of buy things online.

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#8 UltimateGamer95
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is there a store a can get this from, I am only 16 so I don't have a credit card and my parent are sceptical of buy things online.

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Yes there is a wonderful Store called Microcenter that I know of ;). There is also Frys depending on where you live. Can you tell us what computer stores you have near you?
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#9 Flamingthief
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Also a list of some graphics cards supporting directX11

Sorry for double post don't see the edit button

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#10 Flamingthief
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[QUOTE="Flamingthief"]

is there a store a can get this from, I am only 16 so I don't have a credit card and my parent are sceptical of buy things online.

UltimateGamer95

Yes there is a wonderful Store called Microcenter that I know of ;). There is also Frys depending on where you live. Can you tell us what computer stores you have near you?

I have bestbuy and radioshack that all i but give me alist of the stores and I can find their websites for ones near me(in Maryland)

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#11 UltimateGamer95
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[QUOTE="UltimateGamer95"][QUOTE="Flamingthief"]

is there a store a can get this from, I am only 16 so I don't have a credit card and my parent are sceptical of buy things online.

Flamingthief

Yes there is a wonderful Store called Microcenter that I know of ;). There is also Frys depending on where you live. Can you tell us what computer stores you have near you?

I have bestbuy and radioshack that all i but give me alist of the stores and I can find their websites for ones near me(in Maryland)

here is where Microcenter is in Maryland ;) http://www.microcenter.com/at_the_stores/rockville.html

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#12 Flamingthief
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should I change my mother board and CPU to an intel one, or is an AMD phenom about the same

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should I change my mother board and CPU to an intel one, or is an AMD phenom about the same

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AMD Phenom is about the same and it's cheaper too :)
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#14 Flamingthief
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k so now i changed the graphic card and case as suggested anything else I should change or add?

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#15 Flamingthief
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also would i be able to overclock the cpu?

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also would i be able to overclock the cpu?

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again, what is your motherboard.
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#17 Flamingthief
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[QUOTE="Flamingthief"]

also would i be able to overclock the cpu?

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again, what is your motherboard.

ATX Desktop AMD Phenom II Motherboard(Socket AM3)

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[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"][QUOTE="Flamingthief"]

also would i be able to overclock the cpu?

Flamingthief

again, what is your motherboard.

ATX Desktop AMD Phenom II Motherboard(Socket AM3)

what is the brand and model number.
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#19 Flamingthief
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[QUOTE="Flamingthief"]

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"] again, what is your motherboard.ferret-gamer

ATX Desktop AMD Phenom II Motherboard(Socket AM3)

what is the brand and model number.

brand is ATX

Model: 790GX-G65

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#20 -GeordiLaForge-
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brand is ATX

Model: 790GX-G65

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ATX is the form factor ;) The motherboard is an MSI 790GX-G65
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#21 Flamingthief
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sorry as I said I am new to this, thx for correcting me

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[QUOTE="Flamingthief"]

brand is ATX

Model: 790GX-G65

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ATX is the form factor ;) The motherboard is an MSI 790GX-G65

ah okay, then it will overclock fine.
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#23 -GeordiLaForge-
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sorry as I said I am new to this, thx for correcting me

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No prob, everyone has to start someplace :)
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#24 Flamingthief
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I am also concerned that the cooler will be too big as some reviews from other people saying it doesn't fit

Fan/cooler:Corsair-Hydro series H50 CPU Cooler

MY second concern is how much RAM can windows 7 utilize, I already know vista only recongizes 4GB

My last concern is how much many watts should my PCU have, the one I planned is only 750W

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#25 famoussasjohn
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Who's building this for you?

I have an Antec 900 case, and it fits everything i need

built it two years ago myself

intel q6600 Quad-core

2GB of OCZ Reaper ram

500GB HD

Abit p35 pro Mobo

8800GT 512MB

OCZ 700 watt PSU, just died, got a new one from best buy, I believe it's a Corsair, but it is a 750watt PSU.

looking to upgrade to 4GB, and also either a new Nvidia or new ATI video card, doesn't matter which one to me

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#26 Flamingthief
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I am planning to build this with my uncle who use to fix other people computers, haven't bought the parts yet though

and when I put PCU i meant PSU

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[QUOTE="-GeordiLaForge-"][QUOTE="UltimateGamer95"]

That case is a tad on the small side. You might want to get something bigger such as the NZXT Lexa S or the Cooler Master CM 690 ;)

Good call. The 690 is on sale for $39.99 w/ free shipping at Newegg!! GREAT deal....

I second that. I love my 690. The build quality and air-flow customization are top notch. Also, you can grab a windowed side panel off newegg or some other sites for under $20 that makes it stand out. I have one on mine and it really adds some character to it.
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#28 -GeordiLaForge-
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[QUOTE="XRED_0"][QUOTE="-GeordiLaForge-"][QUOTE="UltimateGamer95"]

That case is a tad on the small side. You might want to get something bigger such as the NZXT Lexa S or the Cooler Master CM 690 ;)

Good call. The 690 is on sale for $39.99 w/ free shipping at Newegg!! GREAT deal....

I second that. I love my 690. The build quality and air-flow customization are top notch. Also, you can grab a windowed side panel off newegg or some other sites for under $20 that makes it stand out. I have one on mine and it really adds some character to it.

I had to cut a side window into my 590. On the up side though, the plexiglass has 4x 120mm fan holes in it :D
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[QUOTE="XRED_0"][QUOTE="-GeordiLaForge-"]Good call. The 690 is on sale for $39.99 w/ free shipping at Newegg!! GREAT deal....-GeordiLaForge-
I second that. I love my 690. The build quality and air-flow customization are top notch. Also, you can grab a windowed side panel off newegg or some other sites for under $20 that makes it stand out. I have one on mine and it really adds some character to it.

I had to cut a side window into my 590. On the up side though, the plexiglass has 4x 120mm fan holes in it :D

Nice. The 690 windowed door has a vent for 1x120 and it comes with 1 blue LED fan. not too shabby for $19 on sale:)
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#30 Flamingthief
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I try to convince a family member to buy this for me since it cheaper than the other case I had chosen

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#31 Flamingthief
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I also wonder if I should save for a better monitor,keyboard, and mouse

my current montior is a gateway FPD1975W TFT LCD Monitor with a wide screen 1440x900 res

my keyboard and mouse are both gateway got them 3-4 years ago with a gateway comp

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Definitely dump that 4890 and get a 5770... I just put this in another post, but I'll show it to you as well. DX11 games are going to look ridiculously better using DX11 video cards.... DX11 tessellation OFF...DX11 tessellation ON...-GeordiLaForge-

thats an 128 bit card i dont would go for it.

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#33 -GeordiLaForge-
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[QUOTE="-GeordiLaForge-"]Definitely dump that 4890 and get a 5770... I just put this in another post, but I'll show it to you as well. DX11 games are going to look ridiculously better using DX11 video cards.... DX11 tessellation OFF...DX11 tessellation ON...SLIisaownsystem

thats an 128 bit card i dont would go for it.

DX11 cards don't need a 256bit memory interface. 3D models in DX11 games use about 10x less memory and bandwidth if you have a DX11 video card...
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Definitely dump that 4890 and get a 5770... I just put this in another post, but I'll show it to you as well. DX11 games are going to look ridiculously better using DX11 video cards.... -GeordiLaForge-
just hold your horses for a bit mate. according to unigine and dirt 2 dx 11 benchmarks results you lose about 50% of performance when running dx11 instead of dx10/dx9 which means that a 5770 will run dirt 2 at 20-30 fps at a decent resolution. thats unacceptable and i would definitely get a 4890 now and wait for the next iteration of dx11 gpus that will be able to handle dx11 properly.

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[QUOTE="-GeordiLaForge-"]Definitely dump that 4890 and get a 5770... I just put this in another post, but I'll show it to you as well. DX11 games are going to look ridiculously better using DX11 video cards.... SamiRDuran

just hold your horses for a bit mate. according to unigine and dirt 2 dx 11 benchmarks results you lose about 50% of performance when running dx11 instead of dx10/dx9 which means that a 5770 will run dirt 2 at 20-30 fps at a decent resolution. thats unacceptable and i would definitely get a 4890 now and wait for the next iteration of dx11 gpus that will be able to handle dx11 properly.

The tessellation features use pipelines, just like shaders. But the payoff is huge. The increase in model detail is well worth it IMO. Just watch the unique engine demo. I would gladly run games at half the framerate in order to get that level of 3D detail. And you can lower other settings, like anistropic filtering, since the real 3D details are SO much better than the crappy bump mapping effects anyway. EDIT: Just wanted to say. I'm definitely waiting on second gen DX11 nVidia cards before I upgrade. But if I was buying a card now, I wouldn't think twice about going for a DX11 card.
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#36 Flamingthief
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k I will w8 to build my rig until Jan or Feb for a better components to be released, since because the holiday it makes it harder to get parts and make time to get them, and I could save up more money and buy much better and more parts like a monitor among other things.