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#1 Cry0Tek
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I would like to do this as cheaply as possible, I just need some guidance on where to get my parts and what parts I'll be needing. Would like to do this for close to $500, I mainly play PC games on steam.

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#2 YerfdogT
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You're probably not going to be getting any gaming desktop PC for $500.

A graphics card can cost you that much.

Also, the cheapest desktop PC I can find at all is $379.98.

And that's the cheapest PC I could find at all on Best Buy.

So, good luck.

Have a nice time with your horrible gaming PC. ;)

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#3 General_X
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You're probably not going to be getting any gaming desktop PC for $500.

A graphics card can cost you that much.

Also, the cheapest desktop PC I can find at all is $379.98.

And that's the cheapest PC I could find at all on Best Buy.

So, good luck.

Have a nice time with your horrible gaming PC. ;)

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You want to know why you couldn't find a $500 gaming computer? You were looking at pre-builts Give me a few more minutes and I will post parts for a decent rig, though I might go over budget just slightly. (like $20)
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#4 YerfdogT
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[QUOTE="YerfdogT"]

You're probably not going to be getting any gaming desktop PC for $500.

A graphics card can cost you that much.

Also, the cheapest desktop PC I can find at all is $379.98.

And that's the cheapest PC I could find at all on Best Buy.

So, good luck.

Have a nice time with your horrible gaming PC. ;)

General_X

You want to know why you couldn't find a $500 gaming computer? You were looking at pre-builts Give me a few more minutes and I will post parts for a decent rig, though I might go over budget just slightly. (like $20)

But just the graphics card will probably cost a hundred or more, same with the case and CPU, as well as the other vital parts for a gaming PC.

Gaming PC means that it will be able to run most games well, at least a steady frame rate on low settings, probably for more recent games. Not a PC where the only time you get a FPS above 20 is when you activate the noclip cheat in Half-Life 2 and exit the playing area and everything is a single color.

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Gaming PC means that it will be able to run most games well, at least a steady frame rate on low settings, probably for more recent games. Not a PC where the only time you get a FPS above 20 is when you activate the noclip cheat in Half-Life 2 and exit the playing area and everything is a single color.YerfdogT
Which is perfectly possible at TC's budget. I'd post a list of parts, but General_X is already working on it and there's no point in both of us posting lists. ;) I'll wait for his and go from there.
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[QUOTE="General_X"][QUOTE="YerfdogT"]

You're probably not going to be getting any gaming desktop PC for $500.

A graphics card can cost you that much.

Also, the cheapest desktop PC I can find at all is $379.98.

And that's the cheapest PC I could find at all on Best Buy.

So, good luck.

Have a nice time with your horrible gaming PC. ;)

YerfdogT

You want to know why you couldn't find a $500 gaming computer? You were looking at pre-builts Give me a few more minutes and I will post parts for a decent rig, though I might go over budget just slightly. (like $20)

But just the graphics card will probably cost a hundred or more, same with the case and CPU, as well as the other vital parts for a gaming PC.

Gaming PC means that it will be able to run most games well, at least a steady frame rate on low settings, probably for more recent games. Not a PC where the only time you get a FPS above 20 is when you activate the noclip cheat in Half-Life 2 and exit the playing area and everything is a single color.

You don't necessarily have to have an extremely great video card to play games. A 9800GT would suffice.

I read your previous thread in PC gaming forum and I would HIGHLY suggest you don't buy separate parts for your one build. What I mean is don't buy it piece by piece. Reason being if you get one part that is DOA (mainly the first hardware item you buy) by the time you get everything to let it run, that 30 day warranty may be up. When I built my computer I had two DOA motherboards and went through two video cards that were both defective. New doesn't always mean it works perfectly.

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#7 General_X
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Alright here is what I came up with, you should be able to find all these specific parts on Newegg by searching for the Item #  Now a couple of things: -First that case is on sale, I would recommend jumping on it ASAP (like today) because you can get Free Shipping on it with this promo code: EMCYTNN27 Hurry the promo code expires today -Ordering the seperate parts is fine, but I would highly recommend waiting to order the hard drive along with another part, as Newegg has recently been very bad a packaging just hard drives, so bundling it with another part will give it more protection -Also hard drives frequently go on sale on Newegg, so definitely keep an eye on Newegg's email newsletters for deals on hardrives. Good brands are Samsung, Western Digital (Cavier Black series), and Seagate. Avoid Hitachi brand harddrives, despite their lower costs. -As you can see the Operating System is a huge expense, if you are elligible for any discounts for Windows 7 (there are several), please let me know. This should be able to max every Valve game (except maybe TF2 but that game has some issues right now). It will even handle Crysis fairly well and shouldn't break a sweat with most modern games such as MW2, or Bioshock 2 etc.
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Alright here is what I came up with, you should be able to find all these specific parts on Newegg by searching for the Item #  Now a couple of things: -First that case is on sale, I would recommend jumping on it ASAP (like today) because you can get Free Shipping on it with this promo code: EMCYTNN27 Hurry the promo code expires today -Ordering the seperate parts is fine, but I would highly recommend waiting to order the hard drive along with another part, as Newegg has recently been very bad a packaging just hard drives, so bundling it with another part will give it more protection -Also hard drives frequently go on sale on Newegg, so definitely keep an eye on Newegg's email newsletters for deals on hardrives. Good brands are Samsung, Western Digital (Cavier Black series), and Seagate. Avoid Hitachi brand harddrives, despite their lower costs. -As you can see the Operating System is a huge expense, if you are elligible for any discounts for Windows 7 (there are several), please let me know. This should be able to max every Valve game (except maybe TF2 but that game has some issues right now). It will even handle Crysis fairly well and shouldn't break a sweat with most modern games such as MW2, or Bioshock 2 etc.General_X

im aura_enchanted and i approve this build :P

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Avoid Hitachi brand harddrives, despite their lower costs.General_X
Amen to that one! The joy of low cost will be gone long, long before the pain of low quality ends.... my only Hitachi drive has lasted me about four months. It's already making the clickety-click sounds of death. TC, if you're not able to get the case in time, this one is also a solid choice though it is a few dollars more. I've had mine for 5 years, no problems with it whatsoever.

im aura_enchanted and i approve this build :P

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It's a very good one. I'l have to remember it, for future reference. :)
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Alright here is what I came up with, you should be able to find all these specific parts on Newegg by searching for the Item #  Now a couple of things: -First that case is on sale, I would recommend jumping on it ASAP (like today) because you can get Free Shipping on it with this promo code: EMCYTNN27 Hurry the promo code expires today -Ordering the seperate parts is fine, but I would highly recommend waiting to order the hard drive along with another part, as Newegg has recently been very bad a packaging just hard drives, so bundling it with another part will give it more protection -Also hard drives frequently go on sale on Newegg, so definitely keep an eye on Newegg's email newsletters for deals on hardrives. Good brands are Samsung, Western Digital (Cavier Black series), and Seagate. Avoid Hitachi brand harddrives, despite their lower costs. -As you can see the Operating System is a huge expense, if you are elligible for any discounts for Windows 7 (there are several), please let me know. This should be able to max every Valve game (except maybe TF2 but that game has some issues right now). It will even handle Crysis fairly well and shouldn't break a sweat with most modern games such as MW2, or Bioshock 2 etc.General_X

I'd swap out the PSU and HDD for this combo deal. Asides from that, your system looks great. I'm a bit "meh" about the 2GB of RAM, but I guess that's something the OP will have to sacrifice for the meanwhile until he can afford another stick.

On a side note, I tried running TF2 just now on my 9600m GT equipped laptop, and I didn't encounter any issues :?. I'm not sure how the OP will encounter performance issues with a 4850.

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#11 General_X
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I'd swap out the PSU and HDD for this combo deal. Asides from that, your system looks great. I'm a bit "meh" about the 2GB of RAM, but I guess that's something the OP will have to sacrifice for the meanwhile until he can afford another stick.

On a side note, I tried running TF2 just now on my 9600m GT equipped laptop, and I didn't encounter any issues :?. I'm not sure how the OP will encounter performance issues with a 4850.

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2GB is fine for most games now, the only time I needed more than 2GB was when I was running several programs of the Adobe Master Collection simultaneously. The hardware is more than adequate for TF2, but many users with much more capable rigs post performance issues, its usually an issue with bugs in the game not the hardware.
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#12 brownwhale
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yea, 500$ for a decent gaming pc is perfect. I am building one for a friend right now, got it in my newegg cart waiting for order and its exactly 500 some$. Athlon II X4 cpu, 5770 graphics, 2gb DDR3 G.skill ram, 320gb hdd, MSI motherboard.good PSU and a cheap case. It is definitely doable and i think the build i just mentioned will play most new games on highest settings, high res too. high enough at least.
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#13 Cry0Tek
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Thanks a lot General_X! I'm none to savvy with PC components so you've saved me a ton of time. So you think 2GB of ram will do just fine? Also, how do I know where to fit everything once I get the case or is it all pretty self-explanatory? Im a total 'newb' to building on the PC front.

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Also, how do I know where to fit everything once I get the case or is it all pretty self-explanatory? Im a total 'newb' to building on the PC front.Cry0Tek
Any semi-decent motherboard manufacturer will give you detailed installation instructions in the manual for the board. They usually provide diagrams as well, illustrating where to put which component.
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#15 General_X
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Thanks a lot General_X! I'm none to savvy with PC components so you've saved me a ton of time. So you think 2GB of ram will do just fine? Also, how do I know where to fit everything once I get the case or is it all pretty self-explanatory? Im a total 'newb' to building on the PC front.

Cry0Tek
The link in my sig will take you to a guide to computer building if you get stuck, but things are only designed to be plugged into to certain sockets, so you can't accidentally plug the wrong part into another, it all should fit together. Also if you get stuck while building just make a thread with a detailed explanation of what the problem is, people here will be happy to explain further.
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I would wait and just save up like $850. The more you spend, the happier you will be with it.

I've got about $1100 put into mine.

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[QUOTE="Cry0Tek"]Also, how do I know where to fit everything once I get the case or is it all pretty self-explanatory? Im a total 'newb' to building on the PC front.ChiliDragon
Any semi-decent motherboard manufacturer will give you detailed installation instructions in the manual for the board. They usually provide diagrams as well, illustrating where to put which component.

Alright sounds good, thanks. :)
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[QUOTE="ChiliDragon"][QUOTE="Cry0Tek"]Also, how do I know where to fit everything once I get the case or is it all pretty self-explanatory? Im a total 'newb' to building on the PC front.Cry0Tek
Any semi-decent motherboard manufacturer will give you detailed installation instructions in the manual for the board. They usually provide diagrams as well, illustrating where to put which component.

Alright sounds good, thanks. :)

You really should read through the guide that General_X has stickied here (it's linked in his sig). It's a really good one, and has a ton of very helpful photos if you've never assembled a PC before. There's really only one way you can plug in a SATA data transfer cable, but the more you know about it before you try, the better. If nothing else, you'll have more peace of mind by the time you start building. ;)
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#19 Cry0Tek
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[QUOTE="Cry0Tek"]

Thanks a lot General_X! I'm none to savvy with PC components so you've saved me a ton of time. So you think 2GB of ram will do just fine? Also, how do I know where to fit everything once I get the case or is it all pretty self-explanatory? Im a total 'newb' to building on the PC front.

General_X
The link in my sig will take you to a guide to computer building if you get stuck, but things are only designed to be plugged into to certain sockets, so you can't accidentally plug the wrong part into another, it all should fit together. Also if you get stuck while building just make a thread with a detailed explanation of what the problem is, people here will be happy to explain further.

Ok I'll save the link. Also, what would more RAM give me? I'm also wondering what the advantage of a larger case would be or would it not be for me? Will 1 fan be enough? And I'm a college student at a university, I know M$ gives discounts on their OS's to students so maybe I can get one? And my last question is, do you think I should go with the 64-bit OS? Im not sure what I would gain from this over the standard 32-bit...again...newb :P
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And I'm a college student at a university, I know M$ gives discounts on their OS's to students so maybe I can get one? And my last question is, do you think I should go with the 64-bit OS?Cry0Tek
Yes, and yes. A 32-bit OS is limited to between 3-3.5GB RAM, and Microsoft is phasing it out. Get a 64-bit one, and if you can get a student discount on 7, so much the better. It is a fantastic OS for gaming.
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[QUOTE="General_X"][QUOTE="Cry0Tek"]

Thanks a lot General_X! I'm none to savvy with PC components so you've saved me a ton of time. So you think 2GB of ram will do just fine? Also, how do I know where to fit everything once I get the case or is it all pretty self-explanatory? Im a total 'newb' to building on the PC front.

Cry0Tek
The link in my sig will take you to a guide to computer building if you get stuck, but things are only designed to be plugged into to certain sockets, so you can't accidentally plug the wrong part into another, it all should fit together. Also if you get stuck while building just make a thread with a detailed explanation of what the problem is, people here will be happy to explain further.

Ok I'll save the link. Also, what would more RAM give me? I'm also wondering what the advantage of a larger case would be or would it not be for me? Will 1 fan be enough? And I'm a college student at a university, I know M$ gives discounts on their OS's to students so maybe I can get one? And my last question is, do you think I should go with the 64-bit OS? Im not sure what I would gain from this over the standard 32-bit...again...newb :P

1) I can almost guarantee 2GB of RAM will be enough for the time being, but you will always have to option of throwing in another stick later if you feel it is necessary, but Windows 7 is very got at allocating RAM for games and programs 2) A midtower case is plenty big for the components you will be running. Fulltower cases are absolutely monstrous, and are more geared towards enthusiasts. (2, 3, or 4 card SLI, 5+ hard drives etc. 3)That case I linked comes with two fans, and they should be fine if you keep your parts at stock speeds, ofcourse you can always add fans later too. 4)You may have to do some Googling, I know Microsoft offered discounts to college students when Windows 7 launched, I don't know if it is still offering them though. 5) 64bit OS is the way of the future, you will have no problems running 32bit software, but having 64bit software will allow you to run more than 3.5GB of RAM, which is the limit for 32-bit OS's
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#22 ChiliDragon
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3)You may have to do some Googling, I know Microsoft offered discounts to college students when Windows 7 launched, I don't know if it is still offering them though.General_X
They do, they've always done that. You may need to go through your campus office/bookstore though. My employer gives all employees discounts as well.
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2GB of RAM will make you :( if you try to play Crysis near the end. Then again, that whole game made me :( after the part where you[spoiler] kill the Korean leader [/spoiler] maybe even before that.
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#24 smc91352
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If you don't mind going over by ~$25 I'd get this:[spoiler] . [/spoiler]
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#25 hitman6actual
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I would like to do this as cheaply as possible, I just need some guidance on where to get my parts and what parts I'll be needing. Would like to do this for close to $500, I mainly play PC games on steam.

Thanks!

Cry0Tek
I have recommended this rig so many times I have it bookmarked :P . Anyways this is a good place to start gaming on the PC for under $500. You can of course build on this later, but as of now it'll play everything on at least med/low settings, depending on how demanding the game is on your GPU.
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#26 Cry0Tek
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If you don't mind going over by ~$25 I'd get this:[spoiler] . [/spoiler] smc91352

So this would give me double the graphics power and double the RAM I take it? Thats not badly priced for the money, I might look into going with these. Would I need the 4GB RAM if I go with that card though?

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#27 smc91352
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So this would give me double the graphics power and double the RAM I take it? Thats not badly priced for the money, I might look into going with these. Would I need the 4GB RAM if I go with that card though?Cry0Tek
its the same gpu; though, with higher resolutions it should get a better framerate. It would be rare to get double the performance just 'cause of the memory on the card. Some games can use more than 2GB of RAM, so I suggest it. The amount of memory on the video card does not affect how much RAM you need.
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#28 Cry0Tek
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Thanks for all the information everyone! I will begin constructing my battleship, so to speak, and will post my results once done. If I have any other questions I may inquire some of you with them. ;)

Thanks again!