I've learned from CoD 2 that Infinity Ward just can't make a good multiplayer at all anymore. They got lucky with the first CoD's multiplayer (which was absolutely fantastic) then ruined it in the sequel. Now, we are looking at the ability to shoot through walls and fences and what have you. What does that mean? THATS RIGHT! You have lost all reason to even hope for anything balanced. It was bad enough that CoD 2 was a spray fest... now we actually have an even more effective way to spray!
I've learned from CoD 2 that Infinity Ward just can't make a good multiplayer at all anymore. They got lucky with the first CoD's multiplayer (which was absolutely fantastic) then ruined it in the sequel. Now, we are looking at the ability to shoot through walls and fences and what have you. What does that mean? THATS RIGHT! You have lost all reason to even hope for anything balanced. It was bad enough that CoD 2 was a spray fest... now we actually have an even more effective way to spray!
/RantArcticSnake
Call of Duty 2 has a fantastic multiplayer. I've been playing it online since it got released and I can't get enough of that realistic world war 2 carnage. Can't wait for the forth one to get released... from the trailer it look like it's gonna be the most realistic modern-warfare shooter there is.
[QUOTE="ArcticSnake"]I've learned from CoD 2 that Infinity Ward just can't make a good multiplayer at all anymore. They got lucky with the first CoD's multiplayer (which was absolutely fantastic) then ruined it in the sequel. Now, we are looking at the ability to shoot through walls and fences and what have you. What does that mean? THATS RIGHT! You have lost all reason to even hope for anything balanced. It was bad enough that CoD 2 was a spray fest... now we actually have an even more effective way to spray!
/RantGhossst
Call of Duty 2 has a fantastic multiplayer. I've been playing it online since it got released and I can't get enough of that realistic world war 2 carnage. Can't wait for the forth one to get released... from the trailer it look like it's gonna be the most realistic modern-warfare shooter there is.
Realistic? REALLY? Hmm, I never knew that most of WW2 was fought on very small tight packs where all people did was nade spam (beacuse the maps were so small, a nade would reach one spawn from the other) and do nothing but shoot wildly all over the place (without aiming down the sights because lest be honest, there is nothing more realistic then a sniper rifle that is more effective no scope).
Umm it sounds like you really really got your vagina hurt when you played last (go get a bandaid)..... Every server is differnt, they dont all run vanilla COD2. You can have nades turned off, you can have magazine size reduced. Or It can be a spray fest. You can even goto a rifles only server... wow the possibilties of Mods and time.
And more importantly every COD1 map has been remade for COD2, and custom maps are out there in the thousands. BUT back on subject. I can't wait for the new game. it looks good, and will hopefully be a change of pace from WW2. I mean at this point in time, not alot of modern warfare games that are decent are out right now. The vid looks good, the floor shooting will hopefully be a server option if not, I play stalker, I shoot through crap. Can't wait for this.
Umm it sounds like you really really got your vagina hurt when you played last (go get a bandaid)..... Every server is differnt, they dont all run vanilla COD2. You can have nades turned off, you can have magazine size reduced. Or It can be a spray fest. You can even goto a rifles only server... wow the possibilties of Mods and time.
And more importantly every COD1 map has been remade for COD2, and custom maps are out there in the thousands. BUT back on subject. I can't wait for the new game. it looks good, and will hopefully be a change of pace from WW2. I mean at this point in time, not alot of modern warfare games that are decent are out right now. The vid looks good, the floor shooting will hopefully be a server option if not, I play stalker, I shoot through crap. Can't wait for this.
19chevelle72
Oh meow. Mods or no mods, I didn't even start on the modified engine, and you still have the weapon issues. No matter what a server decides to run, CoD + UO will always be more advanced then the sequel.
For me, CoD 1, 2 and 3 had amazing single player experiances. I played the first two on the PC, the third on the 360, and now I'm ready to play the latest installment on the PC =)
Personally, I would love for the multiplayer to be good. However, its secondary for me.
I've learned from CoD 2 that Infinity Ward just can't make a good multiplayer at all anymore. They got lucky with the first CoD's multiplayer (which was absolutely fantastic) then ruined it in the sequel. Now, we are looking at the ability to shoot through walls and fences and what have you. What does that mean? THATS RIGHT! You have lost all reason to even hope for anything balanced. It was bad enough that CoD 2 was a spray fest... now we actually have an even more effective way to spray!
/RantArcticSnake
While I do agree that CoD 2 multiplayer didn't approach the fun level of CoD 1, I disagree that being able to shoot through objects is a bad decision. Counter Strike implements this fairly effectively, as do many tactical shooters like Rainbow 6 3 and Armed Assault. As long as the penetration is reasonable (ie no being able to shoot through thic concrete walls as in cs_assault) I don't see a problem.
Im sorry, that is just so bogus! Shooting through walls with a SAW? Yeah right. Like others have said its now just spray and pray and not kills with skills. By Cod 4 I will be getting Blacksite Area 51 instead.
I like the ability to shoot through walls but then again i kinda don't. It is more realistic because as powerful as the guns were using today of course they can shoot through walls. but when someone is blind firing through a wall at someone running on the other side, the accuracy should be reduced alot, or the bullets could be weakened from going through whatever material. but on the video they make it look easy and easy abused
I've learned from CoD 2 that Infinity Ward just can't make a good multiplayer at all anymore. They got lucky with the first CoD's multiplayer (which was absolutely fantastic) then ruined it in the sequel. Now, we are looking at the ability to shoot through walls and fences and what have you. What does that mean? THATS RIGHT! You have lost all reason to even hope for anything balanced. It was bad enough that CoD 2 was a spray fest... now we actually have an even more effective way to spray!
/RantArcticSnake
You've got it all down.
This looks like total crap. CoD2 was bad enough with health regeneration and the spraying. I absolutely loved VCoD's MP and I was a bada$$ sniper.
This series is going farther and farther down into the dumps.
I've learned from CoD 2 that Infinity Ward just can't make a good multiplayer at all anymore. They got lucky with the first CoD's multiplayer (which was absolutely fantastic) then ruined it in the sequel. Now, we are looking at the ability to shoot through walls and fences and what have you. What does that mean? THATS RIGHT! You have lost all reason to even hope for anything balanced. It was bad enough that CoD 2 was a spray fest... now we actually have an even more effective way to spray!
/RantArcticSnake
I would have agreed with you about 2 months ago, but I've learned to take a little more interest in CoD 2's multiplayer. I have a lot of negativity about it, but for the most part it is pretty enjoyable. The only real thing that's bad, is that they COMPLETELY changed the way you play. It's COMPLETELY different in terms of gameplay from CoD 1 to CoD 2. And you just have to go into multiplayer with that attitude.
I agree with the ranter, the iron sights a worthless and the game is an arcadey sprayfest. Fun but not as tight in the MP as the first. I saw the trailer for 4 and poeple still fall with similar animations and speed. the MP5 sprays like the smg's in COD2 and the god forsaken proning! wtf, there not even an animation, you just instantly prone in the middle of a fight(stupid).
Ill give it a go,but at face value it looks like a reskin+smokeir smoke effects.
Like it hasn't been long enough since the last game, they may aswell start by calling it COD2007:modern warfare.
In what way would being able to shoot through walls be unbalanced? You can shoot through walls in CS and it's not a "spray fest", AWP (Sniper) is still the best weapon in the game.
In what way would being able to shoot through walls be unbalanced? You can shoot through walls in CS and it's not a "spray fest", AWP (Sniper) is still the best weapon in the game.ikwal
Counter strike did a great job with it. However, what we see here is that if you get engaged in a firefight in lets say a house, there is no point for you to try to get cover because the other person can just spray into the cover you are using and kill you. That is what it seems like so far. Then again, it could be just that one weapon, so its too early to call.
Actually I take back what I said. It just looks like it will be another CoD 2 spray pray / camper game. It probably won't take any real skill at all just like CoD 2. Basically, it's multiplayer will be CoD 2 with modern weapons (as if you couldn't just find a patch for that in CoD 2).
If you all check out this youtube video (I'm assuming it's the same)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=YqFp8G-HvVs
Watch the fight at 28 seconds into it. It's a spray/pray game. It will require no real skill in multiplayer, just like in ****ing CoD 2. So much for CoD 4.
You know what this means? It means that I have officially lost all faith in Infinity Ward, and I think their multiplayer games completely suck. I've been playing the Call of Duty series since it came out, and I'm just about fed up with this ****. They make decent single player games, but that's it. Their online multiplayer usually always sucks. I had fun with Call of Duty 1. I used to play it non-stop. But now? I'm sick of the spray fest that always goes on inside of those games.
I buy CoD games for the fantastic single player not the multiplayer. I agree CoD multiplayer sucks, but its fun for messin around with friendsferret837
Same here, hope they do a good job at the presentation of the story also.
yup looks like an utter spray fest. i wish IW would try something new instead of a rehash of cod2 with different setting and slightly better GFX. I really enjoyed cod2 SP and MP but tbh i dont want anymore of the same. after watching these videos im starting to feel like IW are justa one trick pony.
YOUR ATTENTION PLEASE: In real life, bullets go through things. In fact, that's kind of the point. What this mechanic means in a game is that you can't simply dive behind any two-inch-thick wall and be totally protected. If anything, this makes the game less about "spray and pray" and forces you to use smart tactics to keep yourself alive. Being behind cover still means the enemy can't see you; it just doesn't mean they can't hit you, so you'll have to figure out how to ensure that you always have the advantage in a given situation. Nothing in that video looked awry to me. I can't wait for "4".
[QUOTE="ArcticSnake"]I've learned from CoD 2 that Infinity Ward just can't make a good multiplayer at all anymore. They got lucky with the first CoD's multiplayer (which was absolutely fantastic) then ruined it in the sequel. Now, we are looking at the ability to shoot through walls and fences and what have you. What does that mean? THATS RIGHT! You have lost all reason to even hope for anything balanced. It was bad enough that CoD 2 was a spray fest... now we actually have an even more effective way to spray!
/RantGhossst
Call of Duty 2 has a fantastic multiplayer. I've been playing it online since it got released and I can't get enough of that realistic world war 2 carnage. Can't wait for the forth one to get released... from the trailer it look like it's gonna be the most realistic modern-warfare shooter there is.
lol, realistic?
If you want a war sim try Red Orchestra, CoD2 is in no way realistic i assure you lol
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