Next Diablo 3 class will make players hate Blizzard

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#51 weirjf
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[QUOTE="fatshodan"]A dark paladin is an unholy knight, crusading in the name of evil and chaos, and is a spellcaster devoted to evil divinities.

Paladins have no alignment because Dungeons and Dragons rules only apply to Dungeons and Dragons.

That wasn't very hard, was it?

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Description from Diablo 2:

The Paladin is a member of religious warriors fighting for the glory of light and all that is good.

Blizzard uses lot of D&D rules in their games,warcraft 3 actualy used dices/rolls to calculate damage

Then you should have known that there is a chaotic-evil version of all classes if you base it off of D&D rules.

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#52 fatshodan
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Description from Diablo 2:

The Paladin is a member of religious warriors fighting for the glory of light and all that is good.Lidve

Okay. And? So? The dark paladin is the evil counterpart of the paladin. Where the paladin is a religious warrior fighting on the side of light for all that is good, the dark paladin is a religious warrior fighting for the side of dark and all that is evil. It's a well established cIass. Where the paladin is typically a warrior-cleric hybrid, the dark paladin is often a warrior-necromancer hybrid.

In fact, now that I think about it, WarCraft 3's death knight is literally a dark paladin. Check the blurb in the link for a Blizzard-written definition.

Blizzard uses lot of D&D rules in their games,warcraft 3 actualy used dices/rolls to calculate damageLidve

Sure, but Blizzard chooses which rules to use and how to use them. D&D is more like a guide than a rulebook. Blizzard could go ahead and make any cIass they wanted, regardless of D&D because, as I said, D&D rules apply only to D&D. If Blizzard adopts D&D rules, they become Blizzard rules, not D&D rules, and Blizzard is free to alter them any way they like.

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#53 Lidve
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[QUOTE="Lidve"]

Description from Diablo 2:

The Paladin is a member of religious warriors fighting for the glory of light and all that is good.fatshodan

Okay. And? So? The dark paladin is the evil counterpart of the paladin. Where the paladin is a religious warrior fighting on the side of light for all that is good, the dark paladin is a religious warrior fighting for the side of dark and all that is evil. It's a well established cIass. Where the paladin is typically a warrior-cleric hybrid, the dark paladin is often a warrior-necromancer hybrid.

No,with little math DARK+PALADIN (member of religious warriors fighting for the glory of light and all that is good)

= dark member of religious warriors fighting for the glory of light and all that is good = CONTRADICTION

In fact, now that I think about it, WarCraft 3's death knight is literally a dark paladin. Check the blurb in the link for a Blizzard-written definition.

No, Dark Knight character WAS paladin but he is not anymore,now he is dark KNIGHT not dark PALADIN

Blizzard uses lot of D&D rules in their games,warcraft 3 actualy used dices/rolls to calculate damageLidve

Sure, but Blizzard chooses which rules to use and how to use them. D&D is more like a guide than a rulebook. Blizzard could go ahead and make any cIass they wanted, regardless of D&D because, as I said, D&D rules apply only to D&D. If Blizzard adopts D&D rules, they become Blizzard rules, not D&D rules, and Blizzard is free to alter them any way they like.

Funny thing is that Paladin in Diablo 2 was "DARK" (skin colour,black)

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#54 Wasdie  Moderator
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Why would they do such a thing? I already miss my necro.
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#55 gozalo
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A class inspired solely by Duke Nukem would be pretty cool...

Though hard to work into the lore, I gues...

Fragazine

I want a Chuck Norris class, the round house kick ability would be devastating, and for those stealth moments, the secret fist behind the beard ability.

@Smokeydabear, that's one awesome sig man.

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#56 Lach0121
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What about a fallen angel?
Maybe an old friend of Tyrael?

A fighter/spell caster redeeming his/her angelic powers...


Or on the topic of dark characters.
A half breed demon/human?therog2

or his brother Lachdanan, the leader of the hell knights in diablo 1, who fought to have his soul free from everyone, including diablo himself... maybe one of Lachdanan's captians..

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#57 naval
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If blizzard changes too much people will hate them in begining and if it changes too little people hate them after playing a little (just milking, same a diablo 2 in colors etc) .... glad to see blizzard realizes these issue
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#58 Lach0121
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If blizzard changes too much people will hate them in begining and if it changes too little people hate them after playing a little (just milking, same a diablo 2 in colors etc) .... glad to see blizzard realizes these issuenaval

agreed, diablo2 was quite a change from diablo1, but they kep my favorite part, the composer. which is rumored to have done diablo3 and finished it.

i expect a good bit of change with D3, just i dont want them going ape s*** over it.

my main hope is getting to hear new music from Matt Uelmen while i hack and slash some demons/monsters. with the occasional pretty spell.

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#59 Amigro
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I can't decipher these strange symbols on my screen anymore... the last thing I remember is something very bright...... bright green....
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#60 smokeydabear076
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[QUOTE="Fragazine"]

A class inspired solely by Duke Nukem would be pretty cool...

Though hard to work into the lore, I gues...

gozalo

I want a Chuck Norris class, the round house kick ability would be devastating, and for those stealth moments, the secret fist behind the beard ability.

@Smokeydabear, that's one awesome sig man.

Thanks :D and I think Duke Nukem, Spiderman, and Chuck Norris should all be included in Diablo 3. Oh yeah and Steven Seagal. Maybe they could be the new ancients or something.
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#61 Zigeye
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Either that or it is going to be something really out of place, like a time traveler with rocket launchers or a Tauren from the Warcraft universe.

smokeydabear076

hahaha, for sure. I'm hoping they do something really unique like a Chimera creator where you get to take parts from different monsters you kill to create your own unique beast. That beats pets any day!

To comment on the Paladin argument a Paladin is acording to Wiki, "still used to describe a benevolent, heroic champion, or the defender of a good cause"so i guess an evil Paladin couldn't be called a Paladin, but we could call it a Paladont or something and just have him eff sheet up instead of heal party members! So I think it a great idea.

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#62 Vfanek
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[QUOTE="m1993"]

People resist change...

Thats why people hate D3.

Why did you guys play D2/D1? I know I played it because the gameplay was simplistic, but when you got into a full cow run game, it became awesome. My guess is people will realize that its a lot like D2, except character/graphics changes.

sSubZerOo

Not at all.. The only character I wish they had was the Necromancer.. It wasn't like any class for any rpg I played, skeletonmancer was so much fun.. I just hope they have a minion master like the necromancer, hopefuly its not the witch doctor, because what the demo showed was that minions served more as a distraction..

I highly doubt that focusing on minions isn't a viable path in the witchdoctors talent tree. 99.9% certain.
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#63 SpaceMoose
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This thread is going to get the nerdy argument of the month award.
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#64 Lord-Nerevar
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This angers me but i'll have to bite my toung because I trust Blizzard.
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#65 Lord-Nerevar
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This thread is going to get the nerdy argument of the month award.SpaceMoose

and your pacman sig isn't? J/K :D

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#66 Lach0121
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[QUOTE="SpaceMoose"]This thread is going to get the nerdy argument of the month award.Lord-Nerevar

and your pacman sig isn't? J/K :D

lol awesome
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#68 SpaceMoose
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[QUOTE="SpaceMoose"]This thread is going to get the nerdy argument of the month award.Lord-Nerevar

and your pacman sig isn't? J/K :D

My sig is an argument?

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#69 DabsTight703
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My guess, a "dark" Paladin.Greyskies87

I'd kill people if this were the case.

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#70 Lach0121
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[QUOTE="Greyskies87"]My guess, a "dark" Paladin.DabsTight703

I'd kill people if this were the case.

i plan on it regardless of what class they are,, and i would be this class :P
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#71 khariss
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they will probably just change the paladin a bit and call it a crusader or just a knight plus in D&d you get the black guard which is like a evil paladin but paladins can only be good
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#72 Lach0121
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they will probably just change the paladin a bit and call it a crusader or just a knight plus in D&d you get the black guard which is like a evil paladin but paladins can only be goodkhariss

thats like saying a priest can only be good, yet whats with all the molestation? along with preachers.

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#73 tehfireballer
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pirate!!!!!11
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#74 Treflis
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Hello Kitty?
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#75 niccodemus
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this game is gonna suck
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#76 Lach0121
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this game is gonna suckniccodemus
we will see.... we will see.
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#77 Lukasz253
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this game is gonna suckniccodemus

this game will be game of the year

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#78 Lukasz253
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i am thinking when blizzard will release D3...

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#79 the_ChEeSe_mAn2
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i am thinking when blizzard will release D3...

Lukasz253
I am also thinking you just bumped a 2 year old thread that really should have been left alone.
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#80 deactivated-5e376fa88bd45
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has to be a bastardized paladin, my guess no auras, no hammers, Probably a gimped knight with a peg leg.nutcrackr

I always thought the bastardized paladin was the Monk. Seriously though, when I heard that there was going to be a Monk I was extremely disappointed that it turned out to be a Shaolin Monk as opposed to something that looks more like this:

http://www.densorteridder.dk/imgs/sigmar_priest.jpg

It also fits in more with Diablo then the current blasted Monks. Oh well. I'mma going to play a Barbarian anyways.

Oh yeah and its gotta be a Rogue of some sort. Thus far that particular niche has not been filled at all.

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#81 WorldComingDown
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Bah, I hate when that happens. Just read the whole thread thinking it was created today. :/