No Madden AGAIN

Can someone please tell me why EA sports first decides to buy out the NFL license then refuses to make a pc version of the only football game available? Not even a comment on it just nothing. 3 years now and still no Madden and no word on why? And yea please dont even tell me "if you want to play it go buy a 360 or a ps3" because thats crap. Why would I spent $200 on a piece of crap console thats basically obsolete hardware wise compared to modern computers. This isnt about piracy either because EA has many titles on the pc. I think John Madden just hates computers? IDK I cant think of any other reason. Atleast let another company makes a stupid football like BLITZ or something for pc users?

Do you really think any of that made any sense at all? The reason is simple...Madden on the PC doesn't make enough money to warrant the time/investment required for development. Now as to why that is...I'm sure there's a lot of reasons...piracy probably plays a role. But I think what EA reps have actually said in the past makes the most sense...people just like playing these games on the 360/PS3/Wii instead of on a PC.

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2008/04/another-blow-for-pc-gaming-ea-drops-pc-version-of-madden-09.ars

I've also heard figures that state the Madden sales on the PC aren't even 1/10th of what they are on it's console counterparts...they just don't sell on the PC.

Madden simply does not sell well on pc. Why would they care for some sales here and there? But seriously does it matter to you if you play a sports game in a pc or a console? Its not like you gonna get a 10 better experiance on the pc with a sports game.dakan45

Well it does to a point. Look Im not someone that has anything against consoles I think they were greatfor the gaming industry. I grew up playing them. The problem I do have is that the 360, ps3, and wii (especially the wii)are using very dated hardware and we still have no announcement of anything new being developed. Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo are just milking the industry at this point and have no real motivation (competition or especially profit) to make a new generation even though the technology is there to do so. If these consoles are still flying off the shelves why make a new one right?

We're looking at the longest span of console generations yet (unless you want to go back to Atari) and we still have no announcement of another generation. Now having said that, why would I waste $200-$300 to buy obsolete hardware when I could buy so much more with that money with pc parts? To play madden? The sad part is those new parts id be investing in would never see their true potential because everything is developed to be for consoles now. It's cheaper, easier, and honestly it's keeping the industry from moving forward.. holding it back.

That said, there are still people out there who like to play sports games on the PC just the same as they like to play RPGs or Action games like Modern Warfare. To say that people dont like to play a game because they need a controller would be to spit in the face of that which is the Call of Duty franchise. Defining a game or it's release by it's genre alone is bad business especially when theres still a market for it. It may not be what the mmo market to pc developement is, but there is still a large enough market to throw out a quick port.

I honestly like Madden on the console better. PC version of it just wasn't that good - Madden is supposed to be a party game, and it goes well on a console because of that.

[QUOTE="dakan45"]Madden simply does not sell well on pc. Why would they care for some sales here and there? But seriously does it matter to you if you play a sports game in a pc or a console? Its not like you gonna get a 10 better experiance on the pc with a sports game.Livemmo

Well it does to a point. Look Im not someone that has anything against consoles I think they were greatfor the gaming industry. I grew up playing them. The problem I do have is that the 360, ps3, and wii (especially the wii)are using very dated hardware and we still have no announcement of anything new being developed. Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo are just milking the industry at this point and have no real motivation (competition or especially profit) to make a new generation even though the technology is there to do so. If these consoles are still flying off the shelves why make a new one right?

We're looking at the longest span of console generations yet (unless you want to go back to Atari) and we still have no announcement of another generation. Now having said that, why would I waste $200-$300 to buy obsolete hardware when I could buy so much more with that money with pc parts? To play madden? The sad part is those new parts id be investing in would never see their true potential because everything is developed to be for consoles now. It's cheaper, easier, and honestly it's keeping the industry from moving forward.. holding it back.

That said, there are still people out there who like to play sports games on the PC just the same as they like to play RPGs or Action games like Modern Warfare. To say that people dont like to play a game because they need a controller would be to spit in the face of that which is the Call of Duty franchise. Defining a game or it's release by it's genre alone is bad business especially when theres still a market for it. It may not be what the mmo market to pc developement is, but there is still a large enough market to throw out a quick port.

I think it was something like 7 years between the NES and SNES (in north america).

To be honest your entire rant makes little sense...who cares if it's outdated hardware? The games being made on them still look fantastic.

"To say that people dont like to play a game because they need a controller would be to spit in the face of that which is the Call of Duty franchise. Defining a game or it's release by it's genre alone is bad business especially when theres still a market for it."

They aren't defining it by genre...they are defining it by SALES. Not enough people buy Madden games on the PC...it's that simple. They just gave reason why they feel the sales are lacking...and it's probably true. People like playing sports games on consoles more than the PC due to a few key things.

Well it does to a point. Look Im not someone that has anything against consoles I think they were greatfor the gaming industry. I grew up playing them. The problem I do have is that the 360, ps3, and wii (especially the wii)are using very dated hardware and we still have no announcement of anything new being developed. Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo are just milking the industry at this point and have no real motivation (competition or especially profit) to make a new generation even though the technology is there to do so. If these consoles are still flying off the shelves why make a new one right?Livemmo

Well some people have the same issue with marvel alliance 2. Anyway to be honest with you, i think that for all its superiority pc should perfom better on multiplatform games. Yet when the console hardware remains the same, the pc hardware requirements for those games keep on rising. At some degree it makes sense because those games look better on pc. But at such a degree that we got to keep upgrading all the time? I understand bad optimazation but i find this whole "pc has superior hardware capabilities than the consoles" to get kinda old wth all that gamedevelopers who dont bother to use the pc hardware superior capabilities and they just port their games for pc with some steep requirements, so at the end it does not make much of diffirence to me, since i will have to keep on upgrading if i wanna play games with better graphics than the console versions.

Ea sucks badtaker

In comparison with activision and ubisoft lately, i would say they are just fine. Or Microsoft "Screw the pc gamers will will turn Alan wake into a x360 exclusive no matter it was in development for pc for about 5 years"

Maybe because they didn't make money off of the PC version?

Trust me, if there was enough profit to be made, it would be.

Ea sucks badtaker

[QUOTE="badtaker"]Ea sucks dakan45

In comparison with activision and ubisoft lately, i would say they are just fine. Or Microsoft "Screw the pc gamers will will turn Alan wake into a x360 exclusive no matter it was in development for pc for about 5 years"

that's why i said EA sucks.

EA sports first decides to buy out the NFL license then refuses to make a pc version of the only football game available?

small developers cannot work on NFL because of EA.

and EA is doing same with FIFA (thanks they don't own fulllicense) otherwise there would be no FIFA for PC

[QUOTE="dakan45"]

[QUOTE="badtaker"]Ea sucks badtaker

In comparison with activision and ubisoft lately, i would say they are just fine. Or Microsoft "Screw the pc gamers will will turn Alan wake into a x360 exclusive no matter it was in development for pc for about 5 years"

that's why i said EA sucks.

EA sports first decides to buy out the NFL license then refuses to make a pc version of the only football game available?

small developers cannot work on NFL because of EA.

and EA is doing same with FIFA (thanks they don't own fulllicense) otherwise there would be no FIFA for PC

[QUOTE="badtaker"]Ea sucks Renevent42

[QUOTE="badtaker"]

[QUOTE="dakan45"]

In comparison with activision and ubisoft lately, i would say they are just fine. Or Microsoft "Screw the pc gamers will will turn Alan wake into a x360 exclusive no matter it was in development for pc for about 5 years"

dakan45

that's why i said EA sucks.

EA sports first decides to buy out the NFL license then refuses to make a pc version of the only football game available?

small developers cannot work on NFL because of EA.

and EA is doing same with FIFA (thanks they don't own fulllicense) otherwise there would be no FIFA for PC

that's why i said EA sucks but EA fanboys came to defend EA :P

EA should release sports games on PC in every 3 to 4 years if they cannot afford every year

[QUOTE="dakan45"]

[QUOTE="badtaker"]Ea sucks badtaker

In comparison with activision and ubisoft lately, i would say they are just fine. Or Microsoft "Screw the pc gamers will will turn Alan wake into a x360 exclusive no matter it was in development for pc for about 5 years"

that's why i said EA sucks.

EA sports first decides to buy out the NFL license then refuses to make a pc version of the only football game available?

small developers cannot work on NFL because of EA.

and EA is doing same with FIFA (thanks they don't own fulllicense) otherwise there would be no FIFA for PC

To be honest this is a pretty valid reason to dislike EA...I take back my bandwagon comment. Most of the time you see the "(insert company here) sucks!" one-liners it's bandwagon stuff.

However, I don't see how releasing it less frequently will help a game on a system where not enough people buy it anyways will help things. Maybe they will though...

Aside from the hardware arguement, which isnt what this thread is about, buying a license and then deciding not use that license on a pc is pretty messed up. I'm sure we all can agree on that. To say the market isnt big enough to release a port though is absurd. No matter what they would still make profit. It comes down to the fact that theyre not making what they want off of it so they just choose not to. Basically turning down free money because it's not enough. I see in no rational arguement how EA could possibly lose money buy porting the series to the PC. It cant happen.

As for Ubisoft/Activision I agree to disagree. Ubisoft may be only protecting it's product, but theyre doing it in the wrong way. Theyre hurting the customers more than the piracry. Activision is just evil and I need to go no further than that interview to prove my point.

I'd also like to add that EA, while they have seemed to clean up their image as of late, is still doing their same old tricks. You need to look no further than the recent Sims 3 to figure this out. They basically stripped the sims 2 of everything that made it good, build a new engine and released a skeleton. Now to get the features you already had in the Sims 2 you need to buy overpriced 'expansions'. That and charging $7 for an hour of "DLC" for mass effect 2 and their so called 'expansion' that is Awakening with a full retail price tag. ETC ETC ETC. The company may be cleaning up its image, but it's still has no loyalty towards its fans. It's always been about making the most money possible. Yes, theyre a business and should be concerned about making money, but spitting on your customers isnt the way to go about it. Of course, thats just my oppinion.

[QUOTE="Livemmo"]Well it does to a point. Look Im not someone that has anything against consoles I think they were greatfor the gaming industry. I grew up playing them. The problem I do have is that the 360, ps3, and wii (especially the wii)are using very dated hardware and we still have no announcement of anything new being developed. Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo are just milking the industry at this point and have no real motivation (competition or especially profit) to make a new generation even though the technology is there to do so. If these consoles are still flying off the shelves why make a new one right?dakan45

Well some people have the same issue with marvel alliance 2. Anyway to be honest with you, i think that for all its superiority pc should perfom better on multiplatform games. Yet when the console hardware remains the same, the pc hardware requirements for those games keep on rising. At some degree it makes sense because those games look better on pc. But at such a degree that we got to keep upgrading all the time? I understand bad optimazation but i find this whole "pc has superior hardware capabilities than the consoles" to get kinda old wth all that gamedevelopers who dont bother to use the pc hardware superior capabilities and they just port their games for pc with some steep requirements, so at the end it does not make much of diffirence to me, since i will have to keep on upgrading if i wanna play games with better graphics than the console versions.

Ea sucks badtaker

In comparison with activision and ubisoft lately, i would say they are just fine. Or Microsoft "Screw the pc gamers will will turn Alan wake into a x360 exclusive no matter it was in development for pc for about 5 years"

Do you know how much it costs to port Madden vs how much profit they were making? Of course you don't (nor do I). What's clear is it's obviously not enough to make it a worthwhile venture for them otherwise they would. Just because something breaks even or even makes a little profit doesn't mean it's worth it. If something costs a million to do but you only make $50,000 on it isn't worth it...no company would invest that kind of money into something for such little return.Renevent42

Obviously, but I highly doubt they would be losing money. Not only do you need to take the process of porting into consideration, but also marketing and releasing it. The problem here is they havent done it in so long it's become almost like a gamble at this point and thats why I think we havent had a port released. But like I said, I still highly doubt they would lose money on the deal. All they need to do is try it once. Add some "exclusive" feature to the pc version and see where it goes. If it doesnt make money fine, but atleast you tried. To just give up because 4 years ago you werent making the sales you wanted, even though you werent losing money, makes no sense. Also, EA has never actually promoted a PC version of any of their sports game. Do you expect a product to sell that isnt advertised?

Do you know how much it costs to port Madden vs how much profit they were making? Of course you don't (nor do I). What's clear is it's obviously not enough to make it a worthwhile venture for them otherwise they would. Just because something breaks even or even makes a little profit doesn't mean it's worth it. If something costs a million to do but you only make $50,000 on it isn't worth it...no company would invest that kind of money into something for such little return.Renevent42

I feel that this logic is really missed in this thread.

EA is a smart business, they know how to make money. Obviously having a dev team to put madden on the PC isn't profitable anymore. I don't honestly blame them.

What are you basing your opinion on? They are the ones who have ported and sold the game...they know how much they made (or lost) vs what it cost...you would think they would also know what to expect. It's not a decision that was made lightly...you can bet your butt they made this decision based on real data and forecasts. They plainly stated the PC sales weren't eve 1/10th what the others were...that could very well translate into losses depending on costs.

I feel that this logic is really missed in this thread.

EA is a smart business, they know how to make money. Obviously having a dev team to put madden on the PC isn't profitable anymore. I don't honestly blame them.

Wasdie

People act like these decisions are just the whim of some evil CEO or something. I don't really understand that mindset...do you guys honestly think your little suggestions haven't been considered by the folks at EA? Like saying "just advertise!" wasn't considered in a serious manner and they just "forgot" to do so? A game's advertising budget is based on and budgeted on many factors. They probably ran the numbers and decided throwing even more money at the PC version was unwise and wouldn't translate into a meaningful increase in sales.

why do you keep telling people that requirements keep rising for console ports? Some games are well optimized when ported, some arent. It doesnt have much to do with age.TerrorRizzing

"keep telling people" Ok you are a bandodger or you couldnt possibly know that since i have not said that in any thread for some time and you join the forum just today. Also most of them keep rising few remain the same.

What are you basing your opinion on? They are the ones who have ported and sold the game...they know how much they made (or lost) vs what it cost...you would think they would also know what to expect. It's not a decision that was made lightly...you can bet your butt they made this decision based on real data and forecasts. They plainly stated the PC sales weren't eve 1/10th what the others were...that could very well translate into losses depending on costs.Renevent42

[QUOTE="TerrorRizzing"]why do you keep telling people that requirements keep rising for console ports? Some games are well optimized when ported, some arent. It doesnt have much to do with age.dakan45

"keep telling people" Ok you are a bandodger or you couldnt possibly know that since i have not said that in any thread for some time and you join the forum just today. Also most of them keep rising few remain the same.

[QUOTE="TerrorRizzing"]why do you keep telling people that requirements keep rising for console ports? Some games are well optimized when ported, some arent. It doesnt have much to do with age.dakan45

"keep telling people" Ok you are a bandodger or you couldnt possibly know that since i have not said that in any thread for some time and you join the forum just today. Also most of them keep rising few remain the same.

In all honestly, requirements really arent that high. For the price of a console, you could upgrade your computer to play any game on the market. You just need to know how. Yea you might not get 150+ fps, but neither do consoles. This thought that you need a $5000 computer to run simple games just isnt true. It's a myth. Buy a $40 video card, a $100 cpu and a few sticks of ram and tell me you cant hit 60 fps playing wow. Tell me you cant play Bioshock with those specs.

The problem with pc gaming is that everyone thinks that their store bought computer that has onboard graphics cant run it and thats probably true. But they fail to understand that if they spent $40 and an hour of reading their computer could be able to run these games probably better than their console.

Too many posts, barely read the OP but "American" football is a phenomenon in "America" the rest of the world doesn't care (most towards all), Europe cares a lot about football/soccer and PC gaming is dominant in Europe thus it still sells even tho they make crappy PS2 ports, but America is not Europe there consoles are dominant and most that buy such games prefer them on their consoles because they want some casual group fun, so making a PC version would be stupid because I pretty much doubt they'll actually make more than the port cost, same with NHL but it still sells a bare minimum but it's obvious, EA isn't pleased by NHL, they weren't since 2006 when they released the last decent NHL, the ones after 2006 are total trash and hopefully they'll stop making it soon because 1 we don't need trash on PC just for the sake of it and 2 they'd stop some of the things that make their bad image in the PC gaming world, FIFA still sells but if they don't actually make a decent port sales will decrease a lot with time, even die hard fans can't stay loyal forever.

Yeah, wall of text, but I was too lazy to write it in another way.

The problem is that you point out games like bioshock that dont really provide any superior graphics to have extra requirements. Same goes for mw2 and l4d2 or borderlands and resident evil 5. The games that do actually have amazing graphics....well i cant say that the better visual/perfomance ratio is as good as it should be.dakan45

I'd like to see Crysis ported to the 360. You'd get 7 red rings and the console would blow up. Honestly, I think we need more games like Crysis that show what is actually possible with current technology. Yeah it would cost a bunch to run those games at a high frame rate, and thats probably why theyre not that popular, but just to look at them and say "wow" thats amazing.

[QUOTE="dakan45"]The problem is that you point out games like bioshock that dont really provide any superior graphics to have extra requirements. Same goes for mw2 and l4d2 or borderlands and resident evil 5. The games that do actually have amazing graphics....well i cant say that the better visual/perfomance ratio is as good as it should be.Livemmo

I'd like to see Crysis ported to the 360. You'd get 7 red rings and the console would blow up. Honestly, I think we need more games like Crysis that show what is actually possible with current technology. Yeah it would cost a bunch to run those games at a high frame rate, and thats probably why theyre not that popular, but just to look at them and say "wow" thats amazing.

Graphics don't remain the same. Just because 360 hardware is stagnant doesn't mean all the games on the 360 have the same graphical fidelity. Ever wonder why wave 1 games look much worse than wave 4 games on consoles? It's because the developers are able to utilize the console far better, plus having better tools to create more demanding games on the same hardware.

The PC is different as it's constantly evolving hardware wise forcing developers to constantly adapt (both in experience and in their tools)...meanwhile also trying to work with backwards compatability with older hardware. If video cards never went past the 8800GTX and we still were on DX9, graphics in games would continue to get better (to a point) over time as developers would be able to utilize more and more of it's power. Not to say ports couldn't use more optimization...but it's not always feasible due to budget, time, experience, and other constraints.

Regardless, what you are saying doesn't exactly hold water...the graphics on consoles aren't stagnant. The hardware may be, but every wave of games on them increasingly ups the anty due to a few things.

The problem is that you point out games like bioshock that dont really provide any superior graphics to have extra requirements. Same goes for mw2 and l4d2 or borderlands and resident evil 5. The games that do actually have amazing graphics....well i cant say that the better visual/perfomance ratio is as good as it should be.dakan45

No kiddin...forget the fact there's the new 400 and 5000 series cards out now. And it's not like video cards are the only advancements to PC hardware...I believe when the 8800 was new the C2D's just came out. If you took a system with a 8800GTX with a C2D and pitted it against a GTX 480 coupled with a i7 it would be blown away.

No kiddin...forget the fact there's the new 400 and 5000 series cards out now. And it's not like video cards are the only advancements to PC hardware...I believe when the 8800 was new the C2D's just came out. If you took a system with a 8800GTX with a C2D and pitted it against a GTX 480 coupled with a i7 it would be blown away.

Renevent42

its just one of those genres that isnt big on PC

dont cry, though, PC has a lot more unique genres than console! Strategy, simulation, etc

its just one of those genres that isnt big on PC

dont cry, though, PC has a lot more unique genres than console! Strategy, simulation, etc

mrbojangles25

Never cared much for NFL/NHL/Soccer/NBA games, but one thing that always bothered me was the lack of boxing games on the PC. I think the last one I played was 4D Boxing...I can't even remember what year that was lol.

[QUOTE="Livemmo"]

[QUOTE="dakan45"]Madden simply does not sell well on pc. Why would they care for some sales here and there? But seriously does it matter to you if you play a sports game in a pc or a console? Its not like you gonna get a 10 better experiance on the pc with a sports game.Renevent42

Well it does to a point. Look Im not someone that has anything against consoles I think they were greatfor the gaming industry. I grew up playing them. The problem I do have is that the 360, ps3, and wii (especially the wii)are using very dated hardware and we still have no announcement of anything new being developed. Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo are just milking the industry at this point and have no real motivation (competition or especially profit) to make a new generation even though the technology is there to do so. If these consoles are still flying off the shelves why make a new one right?

We're looking at the longest span of console generations yet (unless you want to go back to Atari) and we still have no announcement of another generation. Now having said that, why would I waste $200-$300 to buy obsolete hardware when I could buy so much more with that money with pc parts? To play madden? The sad part is those new parts id be investing in would never see their true potential because everything is developed to be for consoles now. It's cheaper, easier, and honestly it's keeping the industry from moving forward.. holding it back.

That said, there are still people out there who like to play sports games on the PC just the same as they like to play RPGs or Action games like Modern Warfare. To say that people dont like to play a game because they need a controller would be to spit in the face of that which is the Call of Duty franchise. Defining a game or it's release by it's genre alone is bad business especially when theres still a market for it. It may not be what the mmo market to pc developement is, but there is still a large enough market to throw out a quick port.

I think it was something like 7 years between the NES and SNES (in north america).

To be honest your entire rant makes little sense...who cares if it's outdated hardware? The games being made on them still look fantastic.

"To say that people dont like to play a game because they need a controller would be to spit in the face of that which is the Call of Duty franchise. Defining a game or it's release by it's genre alone is bad business especially when theres still a market for it."

They aren't defining it by genre...they are defining it by SALES. Not enough people buy Madden games on the PC...it's that simple. They just gave reason why they feel the sales are lacking...and it's probably true. People like playing sports games on consoles more than the PC due to a few key things.

Not sure how his entire rant makes little sense? This person is obviously a fan of the franchise as I was too a fan of the franchise. I too, would love to see it on the PC again. You can where I would agree, but I don't see where it makes little sense? He put his opinion out there, and it makes perfect sense if you read it correctly, word for word as I did.

Here is the biggest and most valid complaint that he has. EA bought the rights to NFL, incase you weren't aware of this. So there is one MAJOR issue right there. Because of that no other publishers like 2K or Sega can put out any Sports titles with real NFL Teams. Which is the only reason to play a Sports game to begin with. Which is extremely pretenious, and selfish of EA. Madden was always the most dominant game, but they started feeling pressure from 2K, because their games were better. What happens? They buy up the rights to the NFL and yank it from PC like the arrogant pricks that they are.

Also, since you're so set on his entire rant not making a lick of sense. Keep this in mind, had EA not bought the rights to the NFL games there would still be NFL games on PC published by 2K.

[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

its just one of those genres that isnt big on PC

dont cry, though, PC has a lot more unique genres than console! Strategy, simulation, etc

alvaro_pg

It's not even that the NFL genre is not big on PC. It's the fact that EA bought up the rights to create NFL games, therefore another publisher cannot make an NFL title, which they willingly would.

[QUOTE="Renevent42"]

[QUOTE="Livemmo"]

Well it does to a point. Look Im not someone that has anything against consoles I think they were greatfor the gaming industry. I grew up playing them. The problem I do have is that the 360, ps3, and wii (especially the wii)are using very dated hardware and we still have no announcement of anything new being developed. Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo are just milking the industry at this point and have no real motivation (competition or especially profit) to make a new generation even though the technology is there to do so. If these consoles are still flying off the shelves why make a new one right?

We're looking at the longest span of console generations yet (unless you want to go back to Atari) and we still have no announcement of another generation. Now having said that, why would I waste $200-$300 to buy obsolete hardware when I could buy so much more with that money with pc parts? To play madden? The sad part is those new parts id be investing in would never see their true potential because everything is developed to be for consoles now. It's cheaper, easier, and honestly it's keeping the industry from moving forward.. holding it back.

That said, there are still people out there who like to play sports games on the PC just the same as they like to play RPGs or Action games like Modern Warfare. To say that people dont like to play a game because they need a controller would be to spit in the face of that which is the Call of Duty franchise. Defining a game or it's release by it's genre alone is bad business especially when theres still a market for it. It may not be what the mmo market to pc developement is, but there is still a large enough market to throw out a quick port.

SickStench

I think it was something like 7 years between the NES and SNES (in north america).

To be honest your entire rant makes little sense...who cares if it's outdated hardware? The games being made on them still look fantastic.

"To say that people dont like to play a game because they need a controller would be to spit in the face of that which is the Call of Duty franchise. Defining a game or it's release by it's genre alone is bad business especially when theres still a market for it."

They aren't defining it by genre...they are defining it by SALES. Not enough people buy Madden games on the PC...it's that simple. They just gave reason why they feel the sales are lacking...and it's probably true. People like playing sports games on consoles more than the PC due to a few key things.

Not sure how his entire rant makes little sense? This person is obviously a fan of the franchise as I was too a fan of the franchise. I too, would love to see it on the PC again. You can where I would agree, but I don't see where it makes little sense? He put his opinion out there, and it makes perfect sense if you read it correctly, word for word as I did.

Here is the biggest and most valid complaint that he has. EA bought the rights to NFL, incase you weren't aware of this. So there is one MAJOR issue right there. Because of that no other publishers like 2K or Sega can put out any Sports titles with real NFL Teams. Which is the only reason to play a Sports game to begin with. Which is extremely pretenious, and selfish of EA. Madden was always the most dominant game, but they started feeling pressure from 2K, because their games were better. What happens? They buy up the rights to the NFL and yank it from PC like the arrogant pricks that they are.

Also, since you're so set on his entire rant not making a lick of sense. Keep this in mind, had EA not bought the rights to the NFL games there would still be NFL games on PC published by 2K.