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#1 TerroRizing
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Do I have a bad motherboard if, Ive had two hard drives go bad in 4 months. Other symptons are weird stuttering in games my computer should run fine, and better performance when I underclock my cpu. Ive actually replaced my gpu, cpu and ram, still same issues. I imagine a 4850 paired with a 5200+ and 4 gigs of ram should play most games with no noticeable lag right?

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#2 Mr_NoName111
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Try updating your motherboard BIOS.
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What power supply do you have?

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#4 TerroRizing
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Try updating your motherboard BIOS.Mr_NoName111
I would but its a compaq... no updates are available at all anymore for my board... they are completely removed. i actually already ordered an asus board that seems sturdy if not all that fancy. its a M3A76-CM .
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#5 TerroRizing
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What power supply do you have?

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Xigmatek NRP-MC651 650, which replaced an older power supply I had before.
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#6 sihunt
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Hi I wonder if you are getting power spikes from your power supply.

Maybe it has some bad filter capacitors. Another thing I read online,

it was an overclocking site I think,someone said it is possible to damage

a hard drive by changing CPU settings and memory timings. This is not

my opinion but it is just something I read. Um I just remembered something

posted awhile back by the great

-GeordiLaForge-. He is a member here at Gamespot.I think he lost a hard drive

recently. Maybe message him and ask him about it.

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#7 TerroRizing
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Hi I wonder if you are getting power spikes from your power supply.

Maybe it has some bad filter capacitors. Another thing I read online,

it was an overclocking site I think,someone said it is possible to damage

a hard drive by changing CPU settings and memory timings. This is not

my opinion but it is just something I read. Um I just remembered something

posted awhile back by the great

-GeordiLaForge-. He is a member here at Gamespot.I think he lost a hard drive

recently. Maybe message him and ask him about it.

sihunt

I thought that, but Ive had the same problem with different power supplies. Ill have a new mobo tommorow though.

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#8 kilerchese
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Okay, first of all. The manual for that power supply sucks....

According to the manual...

The 20+4-Pin is +12v1

8-Pin CPU Power is +12v2/+12v3

6-Pin PCI-E is +12v3/+12v4

8-Pin PCI-E is +12v3/+12v4

It doesn't say which rail the PCI-E cables are on.

But according to the chart they have. It would seem that both the 6-Pin and 8-Pin are on the same +12v Rail because they suggest you make sure that both cables are on the same +12v rail for your GPU. So I would assume they would put both the 6-pin and 8-pin on the same rail. Meaning your having to split 18a between two video cards.

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Okay, first of all. The manual for that power supply sucks....

According to the manual...

The 20+4-Pin is +12v1

8-Pin CPU Power is +12v2/+12v3

6-Pin PCI-E is +12v3/+12v4

8-Pin PCI-E is +12v3/+12v4

It doesn't say which rail the PCI-E cables are on.

But according to the chart they have. It would seem that both the 6-Pin and 8-Pin are on the same +12v Rail because they suggest you make sure that both cables are on the same +12v rail for your GPU. So I would assume they would put both the 6-pin and 8-pin on the same rail. Meaning your having to split 18a between two video cards.

kilerchese

http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/1636/xigmatek_nrp_mc651_650_watt_power_supply/index3.html

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#10 TerroRizing
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[QUOTE="kilerchese"]

Okay, first of all. The manual for that power supply sucks....

According to the manual...

The 20+4-Pin is +12v1

8-Pin CPU Power is +12v2/+12v3

6-Pin PCI-E is +12v3/+12v4

8-Pin PCI-E is +12v3/+12v4

It doesn't say which rail the PCI-E cables are on.

But according to the chart they have. It would seem that both the 6-Pin and 8-Pin are on the same +12v Rail because they suggest you make sure that both cables are on the same +12v rail for your GPU. So I would assume they would put both the 6-pin and 8-pin on the same rail. Meaning your having to split 18a between two video cards.

Im using a single 4850, I have a 400 watt booster power supply in my closet if I ever want to crossfire.
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#11 kilerchese
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http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/1636/xigmatek_nrp_mc651_650_watt_power_supply/index3.htmlTerroRizing

Okay..... that just tells me it can keep itself within 12v....

In relation to your last post, sorry about that. I thought I had read paired 4850s, you said a 4850 paired with. Sometimes my brain sees things differently then from what they are.

Well, if that is the case then, there shouldn't be a problem at all....

Make sure everything is mounted correctly? Make sure the PCI-E speed is correct in the BIOS?

The PCI-E frequency is supposed to 100MHz. Anything more can cause damage to the video card and hard drives.

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[QUOTE="TerroRizing"]http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/1636/xigmatek_nrp_mc651_650_watt_power_supply/index3.htmlkilerchese

Okay..... that just tells me it can keep itself within 12v....

Im no expert, but that gpu sucks up a decent amount of power, thats what i was refering too.

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[QUOTE="TerroRizing"]http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/1636/xigmatek_nrp_mc651_650_watt_power_supply/index3.htmlkilerchese

Okay..... that just tells me it can keep itself within 12v....

In relation to your last post, sorry about that. I thought I had read paired 4850s, you said a 4850 paired with. Sometimes my brain sees things differently then from what they are.

Well, if that is the case then, there shouldn't be a problem at all....

Make sure everything is mounted correctly? Make sure the PCI-E speed is correct in the BIOS?

The PCI-E frequency is supposed to 100MHz. Anything more can cause damage to the video card and hard drives.

ya, the compaq mobo just sucks for that kinda info. I checked it out using cpu-z and everything looked ok... Im hoping the new asus board solves my problems.
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Do I have a bad motherboard if, Ive had two hard drives go bad in 4 months. Other symptons are weird stuttering in games my computer should run fine, and better performance when I underclock my cpu. Ive actually replaced my gpu, cpu and ram, still same issues. I imagine a 4850 paired with a 5200+ and 4 gigs of ram should play most games with no noticeable lag right?

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Since you replaced your CPU, did you by chance reformat and reinstall Windows? I've seen issues with Windows before where it didn't like the new CPU installed. A fresh start cleared the problem up. Sometimes there are no issues and sometimes there are. I've swapped MBs and CPUs before without any problems with Windows and other times I'd get lock ups, BSODs or slow performance. Only way to fix the problem is a fresh install of Windows after I reformatted.
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[QUOTE="TerroRizing"]

Do I have a bad motherboard if, Ive had two hard drives go bad in 4 months. Other symptons are weird stuttering in games my computer should run fine, and better performance when I underclock my cpu. Ive actually replaced my gpu, cpu and ram, still same issues. I imagine a 4850 paired with a 5200+ and 4 gigs of ram should play most games with no noticeable lag right?

neatfeatguy

Since you replaced your CPU, did you by chance reformat and reinstall Windows? I've seen issues with Windows before where it didn't like the new CPU installed. A fresh start cleared the problem up. Sometimes there are no issues and sometimes there are. I've swapped MBs and CPUs before without any problems with Windows and other times I'd get lock ups, BSODs or slow performance. Only way to fix the problem is a fresh install of Windows after I reformatted.

Ya I did actually, I even replaced the hard drive and started fresh since installing the new cpu. My temps are good too, after I installed the ocz vendetta 2 my cpu doesnt go over 55 at full load on a hot day, and my gpu is around 50 idle and 65 on load. Im blaming compaq and their low quality product, Ill always build my pcs from now on.

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[QUOTE="neatfeatguy"][QUOTE="TerroRizing"]

Do I have a bad motherboard if, Ive had two hard drives go bad in 4 months. Other symptons are weird stuttering in games my computer should run fine, and better performance when I underclock my cpu. Ive actually replaced my gpu, cpu and ram, still same issues. I imagine a 4850 paired with a 5200+ and 4 gigs of ram should play most games with no noticeable lag right?

TerroRizing

Since you replaced your CPU, did you by chance reformat and reinstall Windows? I've seen issues with Windows before where it didn't like the new CPU installed. A fresh start cleared the problem up. Sometimes there are no issues and sometimes there are. I've swapped MBs and CPUs before without any problems with Windows and other times I'd get lock ups, BSODs or slow performance. Only way to fix the problem is a fresh install of Windows after I reformatted.

Ya I did actually, I even replaced the hard drive and started fresh since installing the new cpu. My temps are good too, after I installed the ocz vendetta 2 my cpu doesnt go over 55 at full load on a hot day, and my gpu is around 50 idle and 65 on load. Im blaming compaq and their low quality product, Ill always build my pcs from now on.

hey man let me know if you ever need help building a PC cause I will help!
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[QUOTE="TerroRizing"]

[QUOTE="neatfeatguy"] Since you replaced your CPU, did you by chance reformat and reinstall Windows? I've seen issues with Windows before where it didn't like the new CPU installed. A fresh start cleared the problem up. Sometimes there are no issues and sometimes there are. I've swapped MBs and CPUs before without any problems with Windows and other times I'd get lock ups, BSODs or slow performance. Only way to fix the problem is a fresh install of Windows after I reformatted.UltimateGamer95

Ya I did actually, I even replaced the hard drive and started fresh since installing the new cpu. My temps are good too, after I installed the ocz vendetta 2 my cpu doesnt go over 55 at full load on a hot day, and my gpu is around 50 idle and 65 on load. Im blaming compaq and their low quality product, Ill always build my pcs from now on.

hey man let me know if you ever need help building a PC cause I will help!

Will do. The new motherboard came, and its working great now. I was even able to get the cpu up to 3.1 with temps still only maxing out around 55 degress while running orthos. Im also using windows 7 without any of the problems Ive had in the past, all just in time for the new batman game.

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#18 sihunt
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Hi. Great!!! I love happy endings. :D

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#19 TerroRizing
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Hi. Great!!! I love happy endings. :D

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me too lol. I can finally walk around the trade quarter in the witcher at a decent framerate now too!