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If you know as much about computers as you make out, why don't you know that integrated graphics are useless for games?
Intel core i3 3.2 Ghz 2 core 4 threads, 2 GB ddr3 RAM, 1 GB integrated video. Thats my computer specs, yet oblivion runs very lagy on maxed settings and HDR lighting wont work, and often i get error messages and oblivion closes. Im not a newbie idiot that doesnt understand computers, i know computers well, i built this one so i should I have both expansion pacs. i have re-installed the game twice. I will download the latest patches for it, as well as defraging my hard drive and run an error check, but i dont think that it will solve the problem. I definetly have no viruses and i have updated norton 2011. I understand i need more RAM for other games, but this should not affect oblivion. anair4
>Im not a newbie idiot that doesnt understand computers, i know computers well, i built this one
>1 GB integrated video
:lol:
[QUOTE="GTR12"]
Integrated video, not good, and by any chance is this a laptop?
aboy7
He said he built it, so I doubt that it is a laptop. Yet again, I have never seen a mobo with 1 GB integrated VRAM.
most now adays will report that they have1gb or more because they can take that much from teh system RAM.[QUOTE="aboy7"][QUOTE="GTR12"]
Integrated video, not good, and by any chance is this a laptop?
ferret-gamer
He said he built it, so I doubt that it is a laptop. Yet again, I have never seen a mobo with 1 GB integrated VRAM.
most now adays will report that they have1gb or more because they can take that much from teh system RAM.But that is not a true VRAM...it takes longer to access it, which renders the whole thing pointless.
most now adays will report that they have1gb or more because they can take that much from teh system RAM.[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"][QUOTE="aboy7"]
He said he built it, so I doubt that it is a laptop. Yet again, I have never seen a mobo with 1 GB integrated VRAM.
aboy7
But that is not a true VRAM...it takes longer to access it, which renders the whole thing pointless.
But that is what the integrated GPU will report to windows, hence why TC says it has 1gb.ok people calm down lol. You are missing the point, oblivion came out in 2006, its minimum required graphics is 256, recomended 512. I can easely get a graphics card, but a gig intergrated should definetly be enough for a game 4 years old. Yes it is a desktop. The interesting thing is that it shows 1 gig graphics, and 1.8 gig ram, with 2 gig of ram installed. I founf this interesting as i thought that if a gig was takin from the ram for the video, i would have 1 gig ram. I find it very unlikly that space from the paging file was used, as a hardrive cannot be used for graphics. Anyone know why this might be happpending? Seriously, this game is 4 years old. This CPU and boared is not. Anyway, i payed $350 for the whole thing, so buying a vid card isnt a prob, i wanted to see how the integrated would cope, but lag from oblivion was unexpected because its so old.anair4
It's likely that swap files are used. When RAM is low, Windows reserves space on a hard drive to temporary store information which normally is loaded into the RAM? Since a hard drive is waaaay slower than RAM, the game lags. It's like in the days when you still had to have the game CD in the ROM because not all the game files were installed on the hard disk. Everytime you went into another area, the disk would spin to load the files and the game would either stutter or take ages to load.
When Oblivion came out, I had it running on an E8400 with 4GB Kingston HYX and an EN8800GTS 512Top on an Asus P5K-E wifi board. The GPU had a hard time clearing everything on highest settings... it's a 'heavier' game than you might surmise.
ok people calm down lol. You are missing the point, oblivion came out in 2006, its minimum required graphics is 256, recomended 512. I can easely get a graphics card, but a gig intergrated should definetly be enough for a game 4 years old. Yes it is a desktop. The interesting thing is that it shows 1 gig graphics, and 1.8 gig ram, with 2 gig of ram installed. I founf this interesting as i thought that if a gig was takin from the ram for the video, i would have 1 gig ram. I find it very unlikly that space from the paging file was used, as a hardrive cannot be used for graphics. Anyone know why this might be happpending? Seriously, this game is 4 years old. This CPU and boared is not. Anyway, i payed $350 for the whole thing, so buying a vid card isnt a prob, i wanted to see how the integrated would cope, but lag from oblivion was unexpected because its so old.anair4
The amount of ram a videocard has does not indicate how fast it is.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-recommendation-upgrade,2803-7.html
This chard shows the level of performance a graphics card has in comparison to others. From the chard you can read that your Intel integrated chip is as fast as an 8 year old Geforce 4 or Ati 9600. To run Oblivion on high detail you atleast need Geforce 6800 or ATI X800, which are about 2 generations younger and several times faster.
So no, just because it's newer doesn't mean it's fast enough to run even 4 year old games.
Hardare does progress fast but not fast enough that a game from 2006 would be able to be eaten alive by an intefrated GPU
VRAM is onlt one factor of the GPU. just because it has 1GB VRAM doesn't mean crap if everything else sucks
Also, if it makes you feel any better. A phenom Ii x4 940 @ 3.55Ghz and dual GTX 280s, Oblivion bogs down once 4+ NPCs get on the screen. Oblivion just doesn't run as well as it should, if you ask me.neatfeatguyis this patched? an e6400 @ 2.13ghz and a single 260 gtx maxed it out quite well lol. a few hiccups here and there when in dense forests, other than that it was silky smooth.
Yes.. the 1GB isn't the only indicator of performance. I bet that a 256mb dedicated card would do better than that. A lot of things that dedicated cards have, the integrated card's can't do or can't do as well - such as shader models, AA, AF, etc. You can pick up a good mid-range card for ~150 or less (maybe a ATI 5xxx series or a Nvidia 450/460). Just be sure that your power supply is enough - most modern cards need a 450w + supply.
Also, if it makes you feel any better. A phenom Ii x4 940 @ 3.55Ghz and dual GTX 280s, Oblivion bogs down once 4+ NPCs get on the screen. Oblivion just doesn't run as well as it should, if you ask me.neatfeatguyis this patched? an e6400 @ 2.13ghz and a single 260 gtx maxed it out quite well lol. a few hiccups here and there when in dense forests, other than that it was silky smooth. Last time I played this game and had it installed was almost a year ago. I don't recall if it was fully patched. I know that no mods were installed. Maybe if I'm bored (which usually doesn't happen since I just don't have much free time) I'll try to install and run the game again.
[QUOTE="neatfeatguy"]Also, if it makes you feel any better. A phenom Ii x4 940 @ 3.55Ghz and dual GTX 280s, Oblivion bogs down once 4+ NPCs get on the screen. Oblivion just doesn't run as well as it should, if you ask me.neatfeatguyis this patched? an e6400 @ 2.13ghz and a single 260 gtx maxed it out quite well lol. a few hiccups here and there when in dense forests, other than that it was silky smooth. Last time I played this game and had it installed was almost a year ago. I don't recall if it was fully patched. I know that no mods were installed. Maybe if I'm bored (which usually doesn't happen since I just don't have much free time) I'll try to install and run the game again. Yeah, Oblivion bogs down for me with lots of NPCs as well. Just the nature of the engine, I've seen this happen on several machines.
[QUOTE="neatfeatguy"][QUOTE="neatfeatguy"] is this patched? an e6400 @ 2.13ghz and a single 260 gtx maxed it out quite well lol. a few hiccups here and there when in dense forests, other than that it was silky smooth.MarfooLast time I played this game and had it installed was almost a year ago. I don't recall if it was fully patched. I know that no mods were installed. Maybe if I'm bored (which usually doesn't happen since I just don't have much free time) I'll try to install and run the game again. Yeah, Oblivion bogs down for me with lots of NPCs as well. Just the nature of the engine, I've seen this happen on several machines.
I've played Oblivion last year, on a Sapphire 5770 (i5 750, Gigabyte UD3 and 4GB RAM) and had the same problems as with my 8800GTS 512MB, in that the game had a slight stutter when running through the fields with lots of grass. Had everything maxed out, with object shadows and personal shadow as well. In recurring peaks, Oblivion just needs a lot of resources...
Yeah, Oblivion bogs down for me with lots of NPCs as well. Just the nature of the engine, I've seen this happen on several machines.[QUOTE="Marfoo"][QUOTE="neatfeatguy"] Last time I played this game and had it installed was almost a year ago. I don't recall if it was fully patched. I know that no mods were installed. Maybe if I'm bored (which usually doesn't happen since I just don't have much free time) I'll try to install and run the game again.JimmyJumpy
I've played Oblivion last year, on a Sapphire 5770 (i5 750, Gigabyte UD3 and 4GB RAM) and had the same problems as with my 8800GTS 512MB, in that the game had a slight stutter when running through the fields with lots of grass. Had everything maxed out, with object shadows and personal shadow as well. In recurring peaks, Oblivion just needs a lot of resources...
That's the way the engine works. THe stuttering is because it is loading cells as you walk into them, it will never fully go away. It doesn't have anything to do with your graphics card.
Yeah, Oblivion bogs down for me with lots of NPCs as well. Just the nature of the engine, I've seen this happen on several machines.[QUOTE="Marfoo"][QUOTE="neatfeatguy"] Last time I played this game and had it installed was almost a year ago. I don't recall if it was fully patched. I know that no mods were installed. Maybe if I'm bored (which usually doesn't happen since I just don't have much free time) I'll try to install and run the game again.JimmyJumpy
I've played Oblivion last year, on a Sapphire 5770 (i5 750, Gigabyte UD3 and 4GB RAM) and had the same problems as with my 8800GTS 512MB, in that the game had a slight stutter when running through the fields with lots of grass. Had everything maxed out, with object shadows and personal shadow as well. In recurring peaks, Oblivion just needs a lot of resources...
The are lots of mods to help this, also editing the config file to reduce the grass density really helped me. Also using a low poly grass mod will help increase fps when in grass without making a noticeble difference in quality.[QUOTE="JimmyJumpy"][QUOTE="Marfoo"] Yeah, Oblivion bogs down for me with lots of NPCs as well. Just the nature of the engine, I've seen this happen on several machines.kraken2109
I've played Oblivion last year, on a Sapphire 5770 (i5 750, Gigabyte UD3 and 4GB RAM) and had the same problems as with my 8800GTS 512MB, in that the game had a slight stutter when running through the fields with lots of grass. Had everything maxed out, with object shadows and personal shadow as well. In recurring peaks, Oblivion just needs a lot of resources...
The are lots of mods to help this, also editing the config file to reduce the grass density really helped me. Also using a low poly grass mod will help increase fps when in grass without making a noticeble difference in quality.I'll have me a look around for those then. Thanks Kraken ;)
[QUOTE="JimmyJumpy"][QUOTE="Marfoo"] Yeah, Oblivion bogs down for me with lots of NPCs as well. Just the nature of the engine, I've seen this happen on several machines.kraken2109
I've played Oblivion last year, on a Sapphire 5770 (i5 750, Gigabyte UD3 and 4GB RAM) and had the same problems as with my 8800GTS 512MB, in that the game had a slight stutter when running through the fields with lots of grass. Had everything maxed out, with object shadows and personal shadow as well. In recurring peaks, Oblivion just needs a lot of resources...
The are lots of mods to help this, also editing the config file to reduce the grass density really helped me. Also using a low poly grass mod will help increase fps when in grass without making a noticeble difference in quality. I've use a mesh optimization mod and did some heavy editing of the config file, didn't change anything. Still slows down when there are many NPCs on screen. I mean it's still very very playable, it just goes down from buttery smooth to say... console framerates, haha.The hardware architecture is more important than those spec sheets. By the same methodology, a Pentium 4 4.00 GHz would be faster than an i7 920 2.66 GHz because it has a higher clock speed.
I read the thread title and I immediately knew integrated graphics would be listed as part of the computer.
OP is a troll. No one thinks that integrated graphics can run any 3d game well.
And OP if you are serious, slap yourself.
ok thanks people, ill pick up i decent video card, i can get em where-house price so its all good :) What are the main things you need look out for in a video card apart from its RAM size? I cant get dual video cards, but i was looking at something with about 1 GB. and yea, oblivion's being a bi*ch corrupted saves and sh*t Unstable game. anair4
Been playing "Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion" for years, on different machines, both patched and unpatched and never noticed anything 'unstable' about the game...
What you need to look out for about a video card is first of all the price. Secondly warehouse price or not, you'll need to come up with a budget, else I can recommend you the NVidia GTX580 or an ATI HD5970 or HD6970...
If I were you, I'd look for a decent GTX460...
I didn't have a problem with my 8800gts on standard max settings, on modded settings it stuttered but then i'ld quadroupaled the view distance.I've played Oblivion last year, on a Sapphire 5770 (i5 750, Gigabyte UD3 and 4GB RAM) and had the same problems as with my 8800GTS 512MB, in that the game had a slight stutter when running through the fields with lots of grass. Had everything maxed out, with object shadows and personal shadow as well. In recurring peaks, Oblivion just needs a lot of resources...
JimmyJumpy
I didn't have a problem with my 8800gts on standard max settings, on modded settings it stuttered but then i'ld quadroupaled the view distance.[QUOTE="JimmyJumpy"]
I've played Oblivion last year, on a Sapphire 5770 (i5 750, Gigabyte UD3 and 4GB RAM) and had the same problems as with my 8800GTS 512MB, in that the game had a slight stutter when running through the fields with lots of grass. Had everything maxed out, with object shadows and personal shadow as well. In recurring peaks, Oblivion just needs a lot of resources...
markop2003
Maybe you had a better CPU (I ran an E8400 at the time, on an Asus P5K-E wifi mobo with win XP-Pro 32-bits SP2 and 4GB RAM@800MHz) or your 8800GTS was from a better batch... who knows?
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