Oblivion vs. Mass Effect - Is it even a contest?

So what if a game doesn't fit all the stereotypes of it's genre. Just play the game for what it is, not what you expect from a "perfect RPG"

Whats up with the Oblivion hatred here?! Oblivion is one of the greatest WRPGs as of right now still. Anyways, I prefer Mass Effect mostly because of the storyline and the gameplay. Eitherway, you can't go wrong with both.

Whats up with the Oblivion hatred here?! Oblivion is one of the greatest WRPGs as of right now still. Anyways, I prefer Mass Effect mostly because of the storyline and the gameplay. Eitherway, you can't go wrong with both.

AdoringFan_

Whats up with the Oblivion hatred here?! Oblivion is one of the greatest WRPGs as of right now still.

AdoringFan_

I'm playing Oblivion again and love it. I've put a total of about 100 hours into it. So flawed yet so fun to me. I don't care if the story isn't great. I don't play games for story time. If I want a story, I read a book or watch a movie. I can't remember the last time I caed much about a video game story. People can criticize it all they want, but that doesn't change that it sold a ton of copies and won many awards. Sales and awards mean more than what people on a message board think.

I'm playing Oblivion again and love it. I've put a total of about 100 hours into it. So flawed yet so fun to me. I don't care if the story isn't great. I don't play games for story time. If I want a story, I read a book or watch a movie. I can't remember the last time I caed much about a video game story. People can criticize it all they want, but that doesn't change that it sold a ton of copies and won many awards. Sales and awards mean more than what people on a message board think.

Skeptomania

Yes, your right... who gives a ... what ppl who play that game think about it. it all in awards...

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I'm playing Oblivion again and love it. I've put a total of about 100 hours into it. So flawed yet so fun to me. I don't care if the story isn't great. I don't play games for story time. If I want a story, I read a book or watch a movie. I can't remember the last time I caed much about a video game story. People can criticize it all they want, but that doesn't change that it sold a ton of copies and won many awards. Sales and awards mean more than what people on a message board think.

kazakauskas

Yes, your right... who gives a ... what ppl who play that game think about it. it all in awards...

Most people like the game, bro. That's why it has a user rating of over 9 on all 3 platforms with a total of well over 50,000 votes.

A few loud whiners doesn't change the fact that it's a hugely successful game with many many fans. So sorry.

Mass Effect has a user rating under 9 on the PC with well under 10,000 votes for the PC version. Mass Effect's priced dropped to $20 rreal fast because it wasn't selling all that well. :(

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Whats up with the Oblivion hatred here?! Oblivion is one of the greatest WRPGs as of right now still. Anyways, I prefer Mass Effect mostly because of the storyline and the gameplay. Eitherway, you can't go wrong with both.

big_orc

Most games are like that with a crap story, character development.

Oblivion was still fun and i had fun exploring. and making up my own stories in game.

I'm playing Oblivion again and love it. I've put a total of about 100 hours into it. So flawed yet so fun to me. I don't care if the story isn't great. I don't play games for story time. If I want a story, I read a book or watch a movie. I can't remember the last time I caed much about a video game story. People can criticize it all they want, but that doesn't change that it sold a ton of copies and won many awards. Sales and awards mean more than what people on a message board think.

Skeptomania

So if your logic of sales and awards is correct then Sonic and Mario at the Olympic Games is one of the greatest game ever, and so is Halo 3.

I have an idea, Morrowind vs. Mass Effect.

That should make it a lot harder for people. I'm leaning to Morrowind right now, but I'm on my 3rd playthrough of Mass Effect so that might change.

they're 2 different games, ones primarily a shooter the other is more an RPGjrabbit99

If your calling Oblivion more of an RPG I am laughing. The whole point of an RPG is to choose your path throught he story to make it as much your own as you can. Oblivion is one of the most linear "RPGs" I have played.

[QUOTE="jrabbit99"]they're 2 different games, ones primarily a shooter the other is more an RPGPublicNuisance

If your calling Oblivion more of an RPG I am laughing. The whole point of an RPG is to choose your path throught he story to make it as much your own as you can. Oblivion is one of the most linear "RPGs" I have played.

I never played Oblivion, but I thought ME was quite good. As others have noted, it is on the shorter side, but has great production value.

I honestly thought the previous 2 KOTOR games were better than ME and that the original Neverwinter Nights is probably the best RPG I've ever played. I do, however, plan on getting The Witcher, which I hear is quite good.

Oblivion is more my kind of game. Don't know why, but I can't get into Bioware's games. Didn't get into KotoR, and I didn't get into Mass Effect. I dislike having more than one character, and I dislike the combat system.

People are constantly arguing over what games are and aren't an RPG, but there's no universal agreement on what exactly an RPG is. RPG stands for "Role Playing Game". If you go strictly by what RPG stands for then it's a pretty broad classification of games.

To me, I don't really see the point of constantly arguing what is or isn't an RPG. There's no one right answer.

[QUOTE="jrabbit99"]they're 2 different games, ones primarily a shooter the other is more an RPGPublicNuisance

If your calling Oblivion more of an RPG I am laughing. The whole point of an RPG is to choose your path throught he story to make it as much your own as you can. Oblivion is one of the most linear "RPGs" I have played.

And Mass Effect is the most open, right :lol: ?

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[QUOTE="jrabbit99"]they're 2 different games, ones primarily a shooter the other is more an RPGMograine

If your calling Oblivion more of an RPG I am laughing. The whole point of an RPG is to choose your path throught he story to make it as much your own as you can. Oblivion is one of the most linear "RPGs" I have played.

And Mass Effect is the most open, right :lol: ?

People are constantly arguing over what games are and aren't an RPG, but there's no universal agreement on what exactly an RPG is. RPG stands for "Role Playing Game". If you go strictly by what RPG stands for then it's a pretty broad classification of games.

To me, I don't really see the point of constantly arguing what is or isn't an RPG. There's no one right answer.

Skeptomania

How DARE you make a sensible statement in this thread!

To me, if you play as someone in a video game, and get to customize your character, it is an RPG. And just because a game doesn't fit into a specific genre doesn't make it a bad game. I have said it before and will say it again Oblivion is one of the greatest games to have graced the PC platform. If you don't like all the freedom given to you in Oblivion, download one of the thousands of mods for it, because the combat at its core is one of the best there is.

Oblivion was pretty lame and ME average, so I would ME crushes Oblivion. I do think Fallout 3 is better than ME thoughnaval

[QUOTE="naval"]Oblivion was pretty lame and ME average, so I would ME crushes Oblivion. I do think Fallout 3 is better than ME thoughneo8888

The only true attribute you can compare them by is just by genre (RPG). But that is where the similarity really ends.

Oblivion is a medieval RPG, whereas Mass Effect is sci-fi.

The only fair way to compare a RPG against Oblivion: it would have to be a medieval RPG as well.

Comparing The Witcher against Oblivion would be a good comparison, but not medieval vs. sci-fi. Not the same storyline setting.

[QUOTE="neo8888"][QUOTE="naval"]Oblivion was pretty lame and ME average, so I would ME crushes Oblivion. I do think Fallout 3 is better than ME thoughnaval

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[QUOTE="neo8888"] wrong again mass effect and oblivion are two great games and f3 is just a crap rip off of oblivion with that storydakan45

then your problem is the games at general, i bet you never tried fable and you efer to gothic 3, which is fine in comparison wth the combat in gothic 2 and gothic 1 so i guess you need to play those games to be able to tell what is bad and what is not, apart from that point me one game that the quests were not "just go and mindlsly kill those mosnters" dakan45

[QUOTE="dakan45"] then your problem is the games at general, i bet you never tried fable and you efer to gothic 3, which is fine in comparison wth the combat in gothic 2 and gothic 1 so i guess you need to play those games to be able to tell what is bad and what is not, apart from that point me one game that the quests were not "just go and mindlsly kill those mosnters" naval

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[QUOTE="naval"] I have played all gothics and fable too, fable too was kind-a-crap but better than oblivion but gothic games were much better ... these games do have some good points unlike Oblivion I would saynaval

Okay, you want some contributions? Oblivion was a crappy game without mods, due to its horrible leveling system. With mods, it's pretty good. Mass Effect is a brilliant game out of the box.

I haven't played Fable, but Fable 2 was too slow paced and dull for me, and the Gothic series are good, but not great games that would be just plain awful if they didn't have such great community support.

I really liked Gothic 3's art style, but the game itself is pretty badly designed, and the combat is simply awful. Overall, it isn't as good as Oblivion.

Happy? Now learn how to press the "Quote" button without breaking things.

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[QUOTE="kieranb2000"] I have nothing to say about this matter. I just felt the need to fix your quotes. For christ's sake, its not a complicated system to use...

kieranb2000

Okay, you want some contributions? Oblivion was a crappy game without mods, due to its horrible leveling system. With mods, it's pretty good. Mass Effect is a brilliant game out of the box.

I haven't played Fable, but Fable 2 was too slow paced and dull for me, and the Gothic series are good, but not great games that would be just plain awful if they didn't have such great community support.

I really liked Gothic 3's art style, but the game itself is pretty badly designed, and the combat is simply awful. Overall, it isn't as good as Oblivion.

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Oblivion is one of the greatest video games ever made. It is a completely open world with so many non-scripted events going on. You can literally do almost anything you want to in the game. It has great AI, so many great side-quests, really cool guilds, great graphics, very good realtime combat, etc etc etc. Didn't it take like 4 years to make Oblivion? The game is just incredible!

Now I haven't played Mass Effect, but I have seen reviews and trailers. It does look good, but isn't it basically a linear sci-fi RPG with a lot of cinematics and good graphics? I don't see how it can even be compared to the greatness of Oblivion.

Opinions?

[QUOTE="dakan45"] then your problem is the games at general, i bet you never tried fable and you efer to gothic 3, which is fine in comparison wth the combat in gothic 2 and gothic 1 so i guess you need to play those games to be able to tell what is bad and what is not, apart from that point me one game that the quests were not "just go and mindlsly kill those mosnters" naval

Mass Effect is a totally different type of RPG. It is not and open world RPG like Oblivion. Both are great games, but Oblivion gave me more for my money than ME did.

shakmaster13

I'm of the same opinion. I love both games. They both bring something entirely different to the table.

im currently playing ME,and i have to say this is something new to me.i always hated RPGs for lack of gameplay.but ME is really fun to play with lots of great tweaks and add-ons...etc.the most two important things here is: first it has a real story,2nd its not open world.i hate open world games because i end up dont know what to do.

as for obilvion,i didnt play it

There is no contest, because there is no comparison

Oblivion is an open-world action game with elements of roleplaying. Mass Effect is a linear RPG with a great balance of RPG and third-person action.

Oblivion has a weak main plot with an occasional, albeit short, side quest story. Mass Effect has one of the greatest main plots of any game with fairly decent side quests.

Oblivion's combat is shallow and simple. Mass Effect is complex by comparison.

Oblivion had fivevoice actors, and they all did a terrible job (excluding Sean Bean, who is awesome!). Mass Effect had a diverse array of voice actors that all did an excellent job.

Oblivion's script was ok. Mass Effect's script was amazing.

Dont get me wrong; I love Oblivion, it was a fun game. I just liked Mass Effect and, objectively, I feel its a better game. But, as I said, its like comparing apples to oranges. Sure, theyre both fruit, but thats about as close as they get.

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[QUOTE="dakan45"] then your problem is the games at general, i bet you never tried fable and you efer to gothic 3, which is fine in comparison wth the combat in gothic 2 and gothic 1 so i guess you need to play those games to be able to tell what is bad and what is not, apart from that point me one game that the quests were not "just go and mindlsly kill those mosnters" dakan45

This whole thread is kind of pointless. In the end it just comes down to whether you want an awesome long medieval RPG(RPG simply in the sense that you are roleplaying) and an awesome sci-fi RPG. Like others have said I got more for my money out of Oblivion, but both games are great in different aspects.

its kind of like comparing apples to oranges. they play completly differently.

Oblivion is one of the greatest video games ever made.

Timberwolf5578

Doh, did you mean to type that?

There are two arguments going on here it seems, Which game is the better RPG, and which is the better game. Vanilla Mass Effect trounces Vanilla Oblivion in both areas, i wouldn't even consider vanilla oblivion an RPG at all, since you have no choices in what you do, the only rpg element is leveling your character, and since there is no cap on levelilng, you can gradually max out all your attributes and make your character into a battletank, but seeing as how all the creatures level with you, your still as weak at lvl 40 as you were at lvl 10. Mass Effect gives you some pretty interesting choices, but not all of them have a big impact on the way the game plays out, but there are still enough, along with the different classes, to make me consider the game an RPG.

But in the end, what is really important is which game is better overall, more fun to play, better story, etc. Vanilla Oblivion holds up much better in this area, although the main storyline is Cleache, it does provide some intense battles and exciting moments, and all the side quests are done very well, and there are a hell of a lot of them; its easy to sink a ton of time into Oblivion in just a single playthrough. With mods, Oblivion gets even better, because you can remove the leveling of the other creatures and characters in the game, so you start out weak, and become powerful as you progress, as you should in a game boasting to be and RPG. I'd still give the better overall game awared to ME though, seeing as how one playthough should last you about 20 hours, and the game is good for at least two playthroughs, more if you want. The mechanics of the game are just great, its so much fun to play, and while the story is not the most origional, its presented in such a way that it doesn't matter, it will still seem epic.

So i'd give it to Mass Effect, although Oblivion is one hell of a game especially when modded.

These are two different RPG's. I like Oblivion a lot but I just think ME had that little extra that made it better.