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#151 ozmodeon
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Why Upgrade? The simple fact of the matter people is that a lot(if not most) software installed on PC'S with windows vista simply will have compatablity problems, or will not work at all, that worked just fine with xp. I find it funny that, and while I'm not critizing anyone here, alot of people also are upgrading to vista without running the vista upgrade advisior, to see what will run, and what won't. Also, Vista may have all new bellls and whistles, but I'm not impressed;basically, vista is a reworked version of XP. Please consider this people, even for the upgrade version of vista($99 dollars) is it worth installing, considering that there is a risk of most software will not run correctly, if not at all?GamerFan2004
Vista works fine with most software, and with games. I have used Vista quite a bit, even though I don't have Vista myself. The only problem people will really encounter is with hardware manufacturers who are slow to release new drivers, which is most likely the reason why some things won't work, and means that Vista isn't technically at fault. Of all the people I know that use Vista, thats the only problem they seem to have. I've seen Vista in action, and imo, Dreamscene, WPF, and even Speech Recognition are amazing features. Speech recognition isn't that bad, taking into account that you're supposed to use it in a quiet environment with as little sound interferance as possible, and with a microphone of reasonable quality. And the product is hardly a "reworked version of XP". There are so many new major features in Vista compared with XP, with some really nice new graphical and security features. Although UAC is said to be terribly annoying (and most that I know of have reluctanlty disabled it), there are analysts who have said that UAC will reduce security vulnerabilities by as much as 80%. The graphical features are also amazing. You no longer drop frames when scaling or moving video, and Vista is now able take full advantage of a system's GPU for graphics realated processes. As for pricing, I would gladly pay $99 for an upgrade version of Vista. The only reason I don't have Vista is that I need to save my cash because I'd like to buy Vista Ultimate. If hardware manufacturers can get their end sorted, I can pretty much guarantee that Vista users won't look back once they've upgraded. If we compare Windows prices to the price of the OS X, Windows can end up being even cheaper. XP and OSX 10.0 were both released around late 2001. If you buy OSX 10.0 and follow the upgrade path, the OS X will have cost you approximately $516, whereas XP Home, and Vista Home Premium Upgrade would only cost about $360. XP Home and Vista Ultimate Upgrade is still cheaper at approximately $460. And for the record, Aero doesn't really look anything like OS X. If you saw a Vista window, and an OS X window, I think it would be pretty easy to tell them apart. And as for the search features being exactly like "Spotlight", Microsoft stated work on Vista back in May 2001, way before the first version of OS X was even released, and Microsoft announced Vista's features at about the same time OS X 10.4 (The one with Spotlight) was released, so its not exactly clear who stole what from who. Even if Microsoft did steal the search feature, who really cares? How does that affect Mac users? Answer: It doesn't. How does it effect Windows users? It helps them. So one group of people stay the same, and another group of people are better off. In my opinion, thats no cause for concern. All the correct information about Vista is pretty easy to find. Anyone who is doubtfull that Vista won't enhance their user experience should check out sites such as this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Vista Who knows? Perhaps it still won't. I know Vista might not be for everyone, and its not really that necessary to upgrade right now. XP is a great operating system, and I'm happy with it until I can afford Vista Ultimate. But I think Vista really is a great product, and I would reccommend it.
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#152 calvrak
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hi i bought the 32bit version but i maybe regretting it. could someone tell if the 64bit version of vista ultimate is worth it? thanks.
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#153 kidkit
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hi i bought the 32bit version but i maybe regretting it. could someone tell if the 64bit version of vista ultimate is worth it? thanks.calvrak
There is nothing to regret... for the price of shipping MS will ship you a 64bit DVD.
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#154 SuperBeast
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hi i bought the 32bit version but i maybe regretting it. could someone tell if the 64bit version of vista ultimate is worth it? thanks.calvrak
What do you regret about it exactly? Don't jump into the 64bit version if it's about gaming, 32bit is still the most stable and overall better for gaming right now. The 64bit version is more designed towards professional use right now. 
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#155 aalleexxzz
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i agree with SuperBeast.....the 32 bits its more better then the 64 bits 4 a gamer
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#156 Taijiquan
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i agree with SuperBeast.....the 32 bits its more better then the 64 bits 4 a gamer
aalleexxzz

I gotta disagree.  Go 64 bit.  This is the future.  For the gamer, if you are running more then 2 gigs of ram you want 64 as 32 locks you out at 2.75gig I believe.  As far as stability, I can't say as I have had good luck on both!   

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#157 Valkyrie_44
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[QUOTE="aalleexxzz"]i agree with SuperBeast.....the 32 bits its more better then the 64 bits 4 a gamer
Taijiquan

I gotta disagree.  Go 64 bit.  This is the future.  For the gamer, if you are running more then 2 gigs of ram you want 64 as 32 locks you out at 2.75gig I believe.  As far as stability, I can't say as I have had good luck on both!   

What do you mean locks out? If you mean the maximum amount of RAM allowed in the 32 / X86 platform it would be 4gigs.
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#158 CaptainHaddock
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Yes, but the virtual memory available maxes out at 2 GB for x86/32bit(rest 2GB is reserved for the system). So, even if you have more than 2 GB RAM, it not much useful as it cannot be addressed.
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#159 Arcadius
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[QUOTE="Arcadius"]Well after trying out 3DMARK 05 (the one I have purchased) on VISTA, I did notice a performance drop of over 700 3D Marks, this of course isn't the end of the world, but it does single out a performance drop, which could be for a number of reasons, but alas lets be "reasonable" the system is new, drivers are new etc. Performance in games of course is very similar to that on my previous OS (Windows XP X64), and I cannot complain on VISTA for that. My Video card is a Radeon X1950.kidkit
Have you tried Vista's "Ready Boost" Option? Basically... it uses an external flash drive as virtual memory instead of the hard drive - If you have a 256 - 4 gig Flash drive kicking around I'd be curious to see how well your computer would score running that test again?

Sounds like a plan, I'll give it a try and let you know how it goes. BTW I have installed Armed Assault and for some people that already have it and have been experiencing problems on VISTA, they are mostly solved by the 1.02 patch. The game failed to start showing a "Display adapter does not support format D24s8 for x8r8g8b8" error. The game forums suggest for you to mess arround with the dxdiag disabling^enabling 3d acceleration, but for my Display driver (or for all) no tweaking is allowed on VISTA. I just installed the patch and got a very good performance with no noticeable bugs ATM. I am running the German Version of ArmA.
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#160 drdrillnfill
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I posted a funny video of Anthony from O&A on my Videos section. Apparently he tried to get Vista installed on his SLI rig, and with no success after 12 hours. Funny too, because he's an avid PC Gamer and knows his stuff. There was some kind of hardware conflict apparently with his motherboard. Microsoft couldn't help him either, but that shouldn't be surprising. mismajor99
yeah im having the same problem also. vista.....more like crapa!
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#161 Brown52
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I could get the business version of Vista installed on my comp for $50.  Should I do it?
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#162 SuperBeast
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I could get the business version of Vista installed on my comp for $50. Should I do it?Brown52
It really just depends. If you are so nervous about it, just use another drive or make a partition to do a dual boot.
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#163 luttman23
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I have Windows Vista, all my games work brilliantly on it... except for the ones with 5.1 / 7.1 support. Why? Windows Vista doesn't talk to sound cards the way XP did, meaning if you have a top of the range Creative Sound Card all its hardware acceloration, EAX chipsets and whatever doesn't work. Having a top class sound card with Vista will be exactly like just using your motherboards built in crap.
This hasn't been covered much by the media or even by the big sound card companies themselves... it's like the issue has been brushed under the semi-transparent rug.

An interesting seperate quirk is with the game Broken Sword - the angel of death. It is deathly slow on vista, wheras on XP with the same version it worked brilliantly on Vista it barely gets above 20fps, which for a pioint and click is pretty crap especially when running it on an OS 'built from the ground up for games'.

What really pisses me off about vista though is a very small issue, the customization of folder icons. Even after spending more than a billion dollars on developing Vista and spotlighting its customizability the icon set you are given by default is too limited, and the way you change the icon hasn't changed since windows 95,, the window that appears to let you choose your new icon is still non-resizable, you can't change the view selection as you can with a helpful slider in other windows and half the time even after selecting the new folder icon it doesn't change. I just can't understand how this 'folder icon customization' relic of windows 95 has survived this long.
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#164 Gordan-Freeman
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Does anyone have an idea of when the Zune 64 bit vista drivers will be avalible? Also my nintendo Wi-Fi usb connect no longer works with it so yeah any info on those two things would be great.
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#165 mnstgngst
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what makes Vista better than XP ??

my brother has it and it has a lot more problems than XP

sorry about that but you must know that ..:|

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#166 Taijiquan
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what makes Vista better than XP ??

my brother has it and it has a lot more problems than XP

sorry about that but you must know that ..:|

mnstgngst

I call bs.  What version is he using and what problems is he having?  Here is my issue with your statement.  I am a power user with ALOT of software and I can honestly say, it is much better then XP.

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#167 PikaPichu
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Something that annoys me about Vista is that the Home Premium version does not seem to include scan and fax functions. I hate having to install 3rd party scanning software to scan stuff but if that's the case, then I guess I don't have much of a choice. Faxing will be a problem though as I don't know of any software that'll allow me to fax stuff. I guess I have to shell out an extra $40 or so for the business version. :(
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#168 Valkyrie_44
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Whoa relax there Taijiquan, I am like you and I have been enjoying Vista quite a bit, and the only notable problem I have encountered is with Flash Player, but since that isn't a mission critical item, I am cool. But, I do know there are problems with some people, and their systems, yesterday, I hlped a buddy put in a new motherboard, and slap in an additional 2GB of RAM, (totalling 4GB now).

His problem was his motherboard just had issues with Vista. Now, he has reported no problems with Vista Home Premium 64 bit since the mobo changeout, and ram upgrade. So just chill, your opinion is based off of your experience, and mnstgngst has his / her opinion based off of their current experience. You might not like it, but being a bully won't help your position.

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#169 SuperBeast
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[QUOTE="mnstgngst"]

what makes Vista better than XP ??

my brother has it and it has a lot more problems than XP

sorry about that but you must know that ..:|

Taijiquan

I call bs. What version is he using and what problems is he having? Here is my issue with your statement. I am a power user with ALOT of software and I can honestly say, it is much better then XP.

Agreed. I really doubt I could go back to XP for home use (still use 2003 for work though) During the beta and RC versions I didn't have a problem going back and forth because of some issues I was having......The final version has cleared most of my concerns so far. The first pain I had with Vista was installing Acrobat....I just couldn't get the damn thing to install. It turned out that all I had to do was turn on UAC again for installation. Other than that, I haven't had anything give me a headache yet.
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#170 stupiddk
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 Can I install Windows Vista 64bit over 32bit Vista?
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#171 Taijiquan
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Whoa relax there Taijiquan, I am like you and I have been enjoying Vista quite a bit, and the only notable problem I have encountered is with Flash Player, but since that isn't a mission critical item, I am cool. But, I do know there are problems with some people, and their systems, yesterday, I hlped a buddy put in a new motherboard, and slap in an additional 2GB of RAM, (totalling 4GB now).

His problem was his motherboard just had issues with Vista. Now, he has reported no problems with Vista Home Premium 64 bit since the mobo changeout, and ram upgrade. So just chill, your opinion is based off of your experience, and mnstgngst has his / her opinion based off of their current experience. You might not like it, but being a bully won't help your position.

Valkyrie_44

Bullying?  I think you need to relax.  Clearly you are misunderstood.  Posting,

what makes Vista better than XP ??

my brother has it and it has a lot more problems than XP

sorry about that but you must know that ..

does not offer anything intelligent really at all.  There is nothing to back this claim up.  That is why I asked for a discription of the problem.  For example, "What makes Vista better then XP?"  Well there is a whole thread that provides information on what Vista has to offer.  "My brother has it and it has alot more problems then XP."  Ok, cool, like what.  That is what this discussion is all about.  There are still problems with XP, to this day.  Way to many people flaming Vista with incorrect information or nothing to back their claims up.  Nothing personal.  Internet language can be tough to get.         

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#172 BigB10123
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I hear you can use your xbox 360 controller for your PC games on vista. Does it have to be a wired controller or could I use my wireless controller. It would be sweet to use a xbox 360 controller on battlefield 2142 and half-life so could you use a 360 controller???
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#173 Gordan-Freeman
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You can use a 360 controller. It installed alot easier and set up easier on vista then it ever did on XP. But only games that are coming out in the future labled Games For Windows will be able to work the 360 controller seamlessly i beleive.
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#174 BigB10123
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I'm gonna call MS tomorrow to find out about the 360 controller. I really want to use it for my FPS shooter games. At Staples they had Halo 1 in the games for windows section so I'm kinda guessing I could use the controller for most FPS games.
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#175 SuperBeast
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Some of you may be wondering, where's the boot screen? Well.....it's still there.... All you have to do to enable it: In the start menu search box type "msconfig"....Next click on the "boot" tab and check the "no gui" checkbox...On your next startup you will see the boot screen called *Aurora*

Here's the thing.....it sucks :| I believe when Bill Gates was presented with this he screamed "OFF WITH HIS HEAD" and the guy who made it was executed on the spot.... Another possibility is that he was simply condemned to the Microsoft torture chambers....From what I understand, there's only one computer in there and Windows ME is installed on it...It's kind of like Microsofts version of hell.  Gates then decided to leave it in the final version to serve as a warning to everyone at Microsoft.

The good news is, you can create your own boot logo. Here's a short tutorial: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/create-a-custom-boot-logo-for-windows-vista/ . Although I'm not quite sure if it works for the 64bit version of Vista.

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#176 X360PS3AMD05
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Who in their right mind would want to use a 360 controller for an FPS?
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#177 Taijiquan
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Some of you may be wondering, where's the boot screen? Well.....it's still there.... All you have to do to enable it: In the start menu search box type "msconfig"....Next click on the "boot" tab and check the "no gui" checkbox...On your next startup you will see the boot screen called *Aurora*

Here's the thing.....it sucks :| I believe when Bill Gates was presented with this he screamed "OFF WITH HIS HEAD" and the guy who made it was executed on the spot.... Another possibility is that he was simply condemned to the Microsoft torture chambers....From what I understand, there's only one computer in there and Windows ME is installed on it...It's kind of like Microsofts version of hell.  Gates then decided to leave it in the final version to serve as a warning to everyone at Microsoft.

The good news is, you can create your own boot logo. Here's a short tutorial: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/create-a-custom-boot-logo-for-windows-vista/ . Although I'm not quite sure if it works for the 64bit version of Vista.

SuperBeast

Great information here!

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#178 fiendling
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I'm gonna call MS tomorrow to find out about the 360 controller. I really want to use it for my FPS shooter games. At Staples they had Halo 1 in the games for windows section so I'm kinda guessing I could use the controller for most FPS games.BigB10123
That is very interesting, you prefer a controller to the standard mouse + KB combo in FPS games? I cannot honestly see the advantages a controller has over the above mentioned combo, but hey: "To each his/her own"
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#179 mismajor99
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Who in their right mind would want to use a 360 controller for an FPS? X360PS3AMD05
That's what I'm wondering, I hope he doesn't play multiplayer...oh boy...
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#180 mismajor99
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[QUOTE="aalleexxzz"]i agree with SuperBeast.....the 32 bits its more better then the 64 bits 4 a gamer
Taijiquan

I gotta disagree.  Go 64 bit.  This is the future.  For the gamer, if you are running more then 2 gigs of ram you want 64 as 32 locks you out at 2.75gig I believe.  As far as stability, I can't say as I have had good luck on both!   




Wait a sec, are you telling me that the 64-bit edition will have the same stability in gaming as the 32-bit version? I thought games had to be specifically programmed for 64-bit, like Farcry 64-bit. Is it backwards compatible with 32-bit games now? I remember in the 64-bit Longhorn days it wasn't. Just checking....
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#181 dinodan14
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Okay I have a question if I upgrade to vista will I have to reformat my hard drive and lose everything?
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#182 johnny977
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Okay I have a question if I upgrade to vista will I have to reformat my hard drive and lose everything?dinodan14
Well, formating the drive and making a clean install is the smartest move if you wan't a stable and fast system. But it's not necessary if you buy the Vista upgrade version.
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#183 SimpJee
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I have Vista Ultimate. Like it a lot so far, but I haven't had a chance to try out my sound card for DRM issues yet.
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#184 Taijiquan
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[QUOTE="Taijiquan"]

[QUOTE="aalleexxzz"]i agree with SuperBeast.....the 32 bits its more better then the 64 bits 4 a gamer
mismajor99

I gotta disagree.  Go 64 bit.  This is the future.  For the gamer, if you are running more then 2 gigs of ram you want 64 as 32 locks you out at 2.75gig I believe.  As far as stability, I can't say as I have had good luck on both!   




Wait a sec, are you telling me that the 64-bit edition will have the same stability in gaming as the 32-bit version? I thought games had to be specifically programmed for 64-bit, like Farcry 64-bit. Is it backwards compatible with 32-bit games now? I remember in the 64-bit Longhorn days it wasn't. Just checking....

I think a persons mileage may vary on this. 

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#185 mismajor99
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[QUOTE="mismajor99"][QUOTE="Taijiquan"]

[QUOTE="aalleexxzz"]i agree with SuperBeast.....the 32 bits its more better then the 64 bits 4 a gamer
Taijiquan

I gotta disagree. Go 64 bit. This is the future. For the gamer, if you are running more then 2 gigs of ram you want 64 as 32 locks you out at 2.75gig I believe. As far as stability, I can't say as I have had good luck on both!




Wait a sec, are you telling me that the 64-bit edition will have the same stability in gaming as the 32-bit version? I thought games had to be specifically programmed for 64-bit, like Farcry 64-bit. Is it backwards compatible with 32-bit games now? I remember in the 64-bit Longhorn days it wasn't. Just checking....

I think a persons mileage may vary on this.

If you are implying that I wouldn't understand your explanation, you would indeed be wrong.
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#186 dinodan14
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You mean the ones on CD's?
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#187 CoB8Slipknot
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I uploaded Vista nad Guild Wars runs really well...

Sorry...thats about all of my 2c right there...

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#188 Taijiquan
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[QUOTE="Taijiquan"][QUOTE="mismajor99"][QUOTE="Taijiquan"]

[QUOTE="aalleexxzz"]i agree with SuperBeast.....the 32 bits its more better then the 64 bits 4 a gamer
mismajor99

I gotta disagree. Go 64 bit. This is the future. For the gamer, if you are running more then 2 gigs of ram you want 64 as 32 locks you out at 2.75gig I believe. As far as stability, I can't say as I have had good luck on both!




Wait a sec, are you telling me that the 64-bit edition will have the same stability in gaming as the 32-bit version? I thought games had to be specifically programmed for 64-bit, like Farcry 64-bit. Is it backwards compatible with 32-bit games now? I remember in the 64-bit Longhorn days it wasn't. Just checking....

I think a persons mileage may vary on this.

If you are implying that I wouldn't understand your explanation, you would indeed be wrong.

lol, are you talking to me?  There is no definitive answer to rather or not stability is equal on a game level in both 32 and 64 bit versions of Vista.  The OS is still new, not everyone plays the same games, has the same hardware, or has the same programs installed.  Thus ones mileage may vary.  In my experience, games play excellent. HL2 in 64 bit mode, CSS, BF 2 exc. 

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"Most" Software works fine.

Only problems i've really had so far is no driver for my TV tuner - but the company who makes the card sucks - they don't even have XP x64 drivers out yet (Hauppauge - if you get a TV tuner, dont get them)

Everything else has worked fine...

Madrone


Try this DScaler for a tv tuner for the time being. I'm having to use it with my TV Wonder.
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#190 mismajor99
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[QUOTE="mismajor99"][QUOTE="Taijiquan"][QUOTE="mismajor99"][QUOTE="Taijiquan"]

[QUOTE="aalleexxzz"]i agree with SuperBeast.....the 32 bits its more better then the 64 bits 4 a gamer
Taijiquan

I gotta disagree. Go 64 bit. This is the future. For the gamer, if you are running more then 2 gigs of ram you want 64 as 32 locks you out at 2.75gig I believe. As far as stability, I can't say as I have had good luck on both!




Wait a sec, are you telling me that the 64-bit edition will have the same stability in gaming as the 32-bit version? I thought games had to be specifically programmed for 64-bit, like Farcry 64-bit. Is it backwards compatible with 32-bit games now? I remember in the 64-bit Longhorn days it wasn't. Just checking....

I think a persons mileage may vary on this.

If you are implying that I wouldn't understand your explanation, you would indeed be wrong.

lol, are you talking to me? There is no definitive answer to rather or not stability is equal on a game level in both 32 and 64 bit versions of Vista. The OS is still new, not everyone plays the same games, has the same hardware, or has the same programs installed. Thus ones mileage may vary. In my experience, games play excellent. HL2 in 64 bit mode, CSS, BF 2 exc.

K, gotcha. I could never get my "gaming on" when I was using Longhorn 64 beta, I just wanted to know if anything changed as far as stability is concerned. I'm thinking of going 64-bit, but I'm only using one App that takes full advantage of it. Hmm..might be able to write it off for work though :)
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#191 SuperBeast
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Dreamscene tech preview is finally released. You can get it via Windows Update. There's only a few dreams released so far, you can get them here: http://dream.wincustomize.com/index.aspx

Edit--  Ok besides the Windows update, you also have to download Deskscapes in order to view .dream files.   I'm completely in love with the one Deskscapes came with, called "Exotic Plasma".   I've just been staring at my desktop for about 10min now....  I keep seeing a bunch of crazy figures....I couldn't imagine being on acid with this crap on there.  The other dreams kind of suck, but Stardock stated they have much better dreams that will be released with the final build.   

Overall, it does eat up way too much CPU....but I haven't noticed any performance slowdown yet.  I'm guessing they haven't fully optimized it to use the GPU like it was intended to yet, but so far I think they're on the right track.   I don't think I'm going to keep it on at all times, simply because it's too distracting....I will definitely have to switch it on when I'm at work or with friends to show people how badass it looks.    I can't wait until people get even more creative with dreams..... I'm sure pretty soon we'll be seeing real-time weather dreams...  The possibilities are pretty limitless.   ....


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#192 free2gamme
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My advice is to use windows xp pro until the one year anniversary comes around since vistas release, which will be in january 2008, By waiting till that time comes up it will give microsoft  enough time during that one year period to work out all the bugs and other problems that new software has when it is first released,that is what i am going to do, Vista has not been getting an over welming amount of good reviews since it has been relased, its been 50/50 so i advise people to wait, and definately wait for vista if your a pc gammer im hearing of a lot of problems with current pc games being played on vista.
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Hello all. This is a very nice thread. Thanks for all the advice and technical experience everyone here has to share. I would like to submit some questions.

I've been reading all of the previous questions and answers everyone has submitted and I noticed that some individuals are having problems with motherboard/Nvidia problems. Sounds like people would have to buy a different motherboard and a ATI card for their solution. Is it because Nvidia hasn't released the appropiate drivers yet? Does SLI work for the new OS? Would someone please explain to me what the deal is with that problem? Hopefully I've provided enough information and hopefully you are aware of this problem to answer it.

What is the deal with sound cards? I read with some individuals had problems saying that its not worth it to buy sound cards because they just don't plain work with this new OS. (I'm pointing out in particular Creative X-Fi cards) I really want the X-Fi Sound Blaster Elite Pro card but if its really useless for this new OS, I won't buy it. Is this another driver problem?

My last question is about memory. I have the ASUS Striker Extreme motherboard and I was going to get the Corsair 2GB (PC2 8888) kit. Whats this I've been reading about where the OS locks out at 2GB? I know nothing about this problem so every/any advice would be truly helpful.

Thanks for this thread again!!!

Also if you want me to further elaborate my questions so you could provide a more accurate answer, I'm willing to do so

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#194 BlueSaberWolf
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Sorry if this question has been ask already.  Does anyone know how to check accurately check my ram?  I bought a new computer that supposed to have a 1GB ram, but it only show 767MB ram in the Computer profile.  Thank you in advance.
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Sorry if this question has been ask already.  Does anyone know how to check accurately check my ram?  I bought a new computer that supposed to have a 1GB ram, but it only show 767MB ram in the Computer profile.  Thank you in advance.BlueSaberWolf

Um, your computer should state how much memory you have in your computer as it boots up, if it doesn't, set up your bios so that it would

I've been reading all of the previous questions and answers everyone has submitted and I noticed that some individuals are having problems with motherboard/Nvidia problems. Sounds like people would have to buy a different motherboard and a ATI card for their solution. Is it because Nvidia hasn't released the appropiate drivers yet? Does SLI work for the new OS? Would someone please explain to me what the deal is with that problem? Hopefully I've provided enough information and hopefully you are aware of this problem to answer it.

What is the deal with sound cards? I read with some individuals had problems saying that its not worth it to buy sound cards because they just don't plain work with this new OS. (I'm pointing out in particular Creative X-Fi cards) I really want the X-Fi Sound Blaster Elite Pro card but if its really useless for this new OS, I won't buy it. Is this another driver problem?

MtTheNothingtM

As for Nvidia's problems at the moment, it's not unusual for these things to happen during an OS launch, it's a combination of unoptimized drivers and unoptimized games. The reason why ATI looks to be in such better shape is that they don't have to deal with direct x 10 atm, the ATI fanboys probably won't be so smug once R600 comes around.

For soundcards it's not just a problem with the X-Fi's its a problem with ALL sound cards (it's just that Creative hater's are more vocal), what is happening is that essentially Microsoft unilaterally declared sound cards obsolete and sound cards are now unable to work correctly under vista, how well the sound card companies can deal with this is uncertain, but what is certain is it's going to take a while to find out.

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#196 BlueSaberWolf
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[QUOTE="BlueSaberWolf"]Sorry if this question has been ask already. Does anyone know how to check accurately check my ram? I bought a new computer that supposed to have a 1GB ram, but it only show 767MB ram in the Computer profile. Thank you in advance.mikemil828

Um, your computer should state how much memory you have in your computer as it boots up, if it doesn't, set up your bios so that it would



I can see the memory whenever my computer boots up.  It shows 767MB, but I bought a computer that supposed to have 1024MB not 767MB.
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#197 mikemil828
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[QUOTE="mikemil828"]

[QUOTE="BlueSaberWolf"]Sorry if this question has been ask already. Does anyone know how to check accurately check my ram? I bought a new computer that supposed to have a 1GB ram, but it only show 767MB ram in the Computer profile. Thank you in advance.BlueSaberWolf

Um, your computer should state how much memory you have in your computer as it boots up, if it doesn't, set up your bios so that it would



I can see the memory whenever my computer boots up.  It shows 767MB, but I bought a computer that supposed to have 1024MB not 767MB.

Who did you buy this from? Because it disturbingly looks like they gave you a 512 MB stick of ram and a 256 MB stick of ram, instead of two 512 mbs

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#198 SupergumXP
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Sorry if this question has been ask already.  Does anyone know how to check accurately check my ram?  I bought a new computer that supposed to have a 1GB ram, but it only show 767MB ram in the Computer profile.  Thank you in advance.BlueSaberWolf

Is it a laptop? If it is, its possible that your integrated 3D card is taking up 256MB RAM. You can go to the bios and reduce it if your not happy. Seems unlikely though as most integrated cards are only allowed to take up to 128MB... Unless you bought some super gaming notebook

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#199 Arcadius
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[QUOTE="aalleexxzz"]i agree with SuperBeast.....the 32 bits its more better then the 64 bits 4 a gamer
Taijiquan

I gotta disagree.  Go 64 bit.  This is the future.  For the gamer, if you are running more then 2 gigs of ram you want 64 as 32 locks you out at 2.75gig I believe.  As far as stability, I can't say as I have had good luck on both!   

In my experience I had better performance with windows xp x64 (been using it since I got my first Athlon 64) than with the regular x86, have both Vista x64 and x86 at home and office respectively, and I must say that performance "feels" somewhat faster with x64.

Heck I'm even backing up my files on my office as I type this, so that I can install my x64 copy of windows vista.

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#200 BlueSaberWolf
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[QUOTE="BlueSaberWolf"][QUOTE="mikemil828"]

[QUOTE="BlueSaberWolf"]Sorry if this question has been ask already. Does anyone know how to check accurately check my ram? I bought a new computer that supposed to have a 1GB ram, but it only show 767MB ram in the Computer profile. Thank you in advance.mikemil828

Um, your computer should state how much memory you have in your computer as it boots up, if it doesn't, set up your bios so that it would



I can see the memory whenever my computer boots up. It shows 767MB, but I bought a computer that supposed to have 1024MB not 767MB.

Who did you buy this from? Because it disturbingly looks like they gave you a 512 MB stick of ram and a 256 MB stick of ram, instead of two 512 mbs



I bought it from best buy.  I think Acer was the brand of the CPU.