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#1 Av177
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You know its a bad day for PC gaming when Epic puts priority or consoles.


Here's what he had to say: "I think people would rather make a game that sells 4.5 million copies than a million and "Gears" is at 4.5 million right now on the 360. I think the PC is just in disarray… what's driving the PC right now is 'Sims'-type games and 'WoW' and a lot of stuff that's in a web-based interface. You just click on it and play it. That's the direction PC is evolving into So for me, the PC is kind of the secondary part of what we're doing. It's important for us, but right now making AAA games on consoles is where we're at."

http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2008/02/13/gears-of-war-creator-update/

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#2 Ps2stony
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Let's... Let's calm down... He's kidding right? RIGHT?!?

But seriously... NOOOOOOOO!!! WAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!

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#3 CavalAnts
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yes, this hurts
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#4 Av177
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Kind of disheartening, considering PC gamers made epic what it was.
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#5 deactivated-60f7582dcaa79
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I could have sworn they already said this a couple months back. Good find anyways I guess.
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#6 mfsa
Member since 2007 • 3328 Posts

I was always a Quake kinda guy, so this doesn't bother me. I never liked Gears much either. If I hear Valve saying this, or Crytek, that'll hurt. I can live without Epic, though.

Besides, did we really need this statement to already know Epic's stance? UE3 is a multiplat engine. UT3 is a multiplat game. Gears had console priority. We already knew this.

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#7 AlmostUndead
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Everyone is switching over to consoles, I think its a bunch bologna.
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#8 Doom_HellKnight
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I agree with mfsa.
We still have Valve and Crytek, and many others that are remaining PC developers primarily. I think Valve said that the PC has always been their platform of choice, and that they don't think their opinion on the matter will change any time soon.
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#9 schu
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epic hasnt made a good game since the original unreal tournament in my opinion..

they have made good engines though..

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#10 mechwarrior_bob
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Bah we got Valve that's all we really need anything else is just bonus :D they can go **** themselves if they think were all going to switch to consoles just to play there games

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#11 Meu2k7
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They made 1 decent franchise ... and some nice engines ... that is it.

He just doesnt like it because UT3 tanked, on the PS3 aswell. While Gears of War was lapped up.

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#12 Xshinobi
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Who cares about Epic anymore? I mean UT3 was nothing but a better looking UT2k4 with the best mode removed and Gears for the PC had so much bugs that still haven't been patch. They put UT3 out with less features than UT2k4 and at a time when a lot of the heavy hitters were out( COD4, TF2,Orange Box etc..) and put no marketing behind the game what did they EXPECT to happen? Also EPIC, Valve says hello!
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#13 artur79
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Well, I don't think I care. Epic has not made that many titles that interest me. MP only games do not exist in my world, that's what Epic is known for anyway. But the future is multiplat, I'm afraid. there are few Cryteks left.
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#14 franklinBluth
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You know its a bad day for PC gaming when Epic puts priority or consoles.


Here's what he had to say: "I think people would rather make a game that sells 4.5 million copies than a million and "Gears" is at 4.5 million right now on the 360. I think the PC is just in disarray… what's driving the PC right now is 'Sims'-type games and 'WoW' and a lot of stuff that's in a web-based interface. You just click on it and play it. That's the direction PC is evolving into So for me, the PC is kind of the secondary part of what we're doing. It's important for us, but right now making AAA games on consoles is where we're at."

http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2008/02/13/gears-of-war-creator-update/

Av177

Proof that PC gaming is not dying. Oh, wait a minute...

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#15 mfsa
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Gabe Newell: "PC gaming is thriving, and has evolved into an era of constant connectivity,"

Cliff Bleszinski: "I'm a big stupid idiot with stupid hair and I smell and I can't make good PC games so I'm hiding behind some vague rhetoric."

I may have paraphrased slightly on the second quote.

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#16 Doom_HellKnight
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Gabe Newell: "PC gaming is thriving, and has evolved into an era of constant connectivity,"

mfsa

One of the many, many reasons I like Gabe and the crew at Valve.
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#17 smokeydabear076
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I honestly can't take what he or Mark Rein has to say about PC gaming seriously. They are disappointed with the fact that UT3 is doing poorly in the sales. Well that is what happens when you take away the plethora of game modes in UT2004 to satisfy a casual audience and basically accuse all PC gamers of being pirates.
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#18 jimhogg
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as long as i get mah dragon age from bioware i'm happy
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#19 solid_mario
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If I hear Valve saying this, or Crytek, that'll hurt. I can live without Epic, though.mfsa
Ye, I agree. I really don't care too much if we miss GoW2. It's probably going to be more of the same and I didn't really like GoW anyways. I didn't grip me straight away and so I left it for better games. I will probably give it a second go though.
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#20 CavalAnts
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Dunno why i haven't ever got fond of Half life series or portal or tf : |
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#21 artur79
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[QUOTE="mfsa"] If I hear Valve saying this, or Crytek, that'll hurt. I can live without Epic, though.solid_mario
Ye, I agree. I really don't care too much if we miss GoW2. It's probably going to be more of the same and I didn't really like GoW anyways. I didn't grip me straight away and so I left it for better games. I will probably give it a second go though.

I don't think we'll miss GoW 2. What CliffyB said is that Epic develops games for consoles primarily from now on. That does not mean there won't be ports.

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#22 Av177
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[QUOTE="solid_mario"][QUOTE="mfsa"] If I hear Valve saying this, or Crytek, that'll hurt. I can live without Epic, though.artur79

Ye, I agree. I really don't care too much if we miss GoW2. It's probably going to be more of the same and I didn't really like GoW anyways. I didn't grip me straight away and so I left it for better games. I will probably give it a second go though.

I don't think we'll miss GoW 2. What CliffyB said is that Epic develops games for consoles primarily from now on. That does not mean there won't be ports.

Hah! Just what I wanted, ports. :|

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#23 Cranler
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Pc gaming lost Epic but in 2007 we got 2 new pc only devs releasing their first games. GSC Gameworld with Stalker and CDProjekt with The Witcher.

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#24 Darth_Kane
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Big deal, we already have too much FPSs
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stalker powns gow period.
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#26 mo0ksi
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Epic is crap now so it doesn't bother me. We still have Blizzard, Relic, Crytek, Valve, CDProjekt, GSC Gameworld, and Stardock. The only good thing Epic has done throughout the past few years was make a good engine.
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#27 togusss
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he is just being stupid and cant see the fact that pc gammers dont leave the pc...

i hate playing FPS on consoles well i havent tried on xbox 360 ore pl3 but on my pl2 it sucks and i have sold my pl2 to get pc games.. i dont know if it is just me but i think that pc games will never die and that it is foolish to say.. so he can just go home and cry in his mothers lap...

and ye we dont need epic no good games what so EVER dont the ut series and will never do. so i will just whipe my *** in epic games if i get one on my birth day ore crismas...

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#28 Drizzt13
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So we will miss out on GOW2 and UT4. Oh noooz.
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#29 Virrip
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PC rapes 360. The only game i would play on 360 is Madden. Cry all you want 360ers.
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#30 artur79
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he is just being stupid and cant see the fact that pc gammers dont leave the pc...

i hate playing FPS on consoles well i havent tried on xbox 360 ore pl3 but on my pl2 it sucks and i have sold my pl2 to get pc games.. i dont know if it is just me but i think that pc games will never die and that it is foolish to say.. so he can just go home and cry in his mothers lap...

and ye we dont need epic no good games what so EVER dont the ut series and will never do. so i will just whipe my *** in epic games if i get one on my birth day ore crismas...

togusss

First of all it's PS2 and PS3. And are you seriously complaining about crappy FPS games on the ps2? That's like the worst platform to buy if you're an FPS-fan. It has a lot of strengths, but first person shooters are not one of those.

And damn it, why do I still hear that we will miss out on GoW and UT4. PORTS EXIST, you know.

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#31 osan0
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epic hasnt made a good game since the original unreal tournament in my opinion..

they have made good engines though..

schu

i quite liked ut04.

but UT3 is a disgrace to the franchise. except for graphics (which are very perty it has to be said), the game feels like a step backwards imho. so few modes, so few maps. no assault...NO ASSAULT DAM IT!!!!.

yea....epic dont let the door hit u on the way out.

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#32 s_emi_xxxxx
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o yes this hurts. this scares me a little. But actually Epic didn't really do anything for pc this time. Gears of war (PC) was handled by Peoplecanfly studio... and it had too many bugs. So how do you expect people to buy such a game... after 1 year of it's release on a console . & UT 3 is complete crap. I would play UT 2004 instead.

similar with Halo.. after earning millions of dollars.. MS will someday announce that Halo 3 is coming for pc... vista exclusive .... in 2010. nobody really cares about PC platform. This just frustrates me so much.... Luckily there are still some good Devs like Crytek and Valve... and some others too. they're still with us.

I think it's time for us to start buying two copies of a game... just to double the profit of PC Devs.

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#33 togusss
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[QUOTE="togusss"]

he is just being stupid and cant see the fact that pc gammers dont leave the pc...

i hate playing FPS on consoles well i havent tried on xbox 360 ore pl3 but on my pl2 it sucks and i have sold my pl2 to get pc games.. i dont know if it is just me but i think that pc games will never die and that it is foolish to say.. so he can just go home and cry in his mothers lap...

and ye we dont need epic no good games what so EVER dont the ut series and will never do. so i will just whipe my *** in epic games if i get one on my birth day ore crismas...

artur79

First of all it's PS2 and PS3. And are you seriously complaining about crappy FPS games on the ps2? That's like the worst platform to buy if you're an FPS-fan. It has a lot of strengths, but first person shooters are not one of those.

And damn it, why do I still hear that we will miss out on GoW and UT4. PORTS EXIST, you know.

oh thanks ^^ and i am not saying that i only play FPS but those on consoles sucks.... and ye there are some games that is good on consoles but they can be playd allmost as good on pc...
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#34 biggest_loser
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As some have said PC Gaming made Epic and the prove of that is largely one game: Unreal - especially considering how that series has evolved and grown.

After all the great titles of 2007 how are we in "disarray" at all? I really don't understand that - 2008 will be even greater!

Our blood should boil at this statement!:evil:

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#35 Hot_Potato
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I don't see Valve switching to consoles any time soon, I'm sure their games sell a buttload more on PC than on the consoles. And hey! They run better on PC too!
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#36 biggest_loser
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I don't see Valve switching to consoles any time soon, I'm sure their games sell a buttload more on PC than on the consoles. And hey! They run better on PC too!Hot_Potato

Well they have already released the Orange Box on console..?

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#37 artur79
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[QUOTE="Hot_Potato"]I don't see Valve switching to consoles any time soon, I'm sure their games sell a buttload more on PC than on the consoles. And hey! They run better on PC too!biggest_loser

Well they have already released the Orange Box on console..?

And I'm sure it sold like hot pie made by mom on consoles too.

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#38 CavalAnts
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Well, GoW coop was very fun imo. (lan)
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#39 NosmoKing1984
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What do Epic expect, of course GoW sold way better on Xbox 360, it was released there first. Did they really expect it to sell as well on PC when 95% of people that wanted to play it, bought it for Xbox? Who in their right mind would buy a game twice? 40 minutes extra game play is NOT enough to make people buy it again, unless they're a mental or something.

And then with UT3, they stripped out the best modes and didn't give any decent reasons for this and then released it at the worst time possible time where tons of other games came out together. And now that people can afford to buy it, they're not because they know it sucks.

Having Epic focus on Consoles is a good thing, because if they're dumb enough to think that PC gamers will lap up a dodgy year old port and a watered down and butchered generic deathmatch then I'd rather they throw that crap at consoles and leave the good PC developers to make some good games.

Have fun

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#40 casparmorch
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Kind of disheartening, considering PC gamers made epic what it was.Av177

They make games to earn money, not to make us nerds happy.

Tough world, eh?

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#41 Ironfungus
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Kind of disheartening, considering PC gamers made epic what it was.Av177

Lol, we'll just have to see what console gamers have to offer them.

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#42 onuruca
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well this is the truth for last few years and i think i'll be going for consoles when the next xbox comes sadly, i couldn have been playing gta iv on april if i wouldn't spend 1.000$ for my pc.
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#43 1q3er5
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Epic consolized UT3, they deserve what they got. UT2004 was superb too bad they also made UT2003...

Why would they burn bridges... who knows. The only way u'd get me to buy an epic game for PC is if it was a PC exclusive game first.

NO WATERED DOWN CONSOLE FRIENDLY GAME FOR ME EPIC. DON'T FORGET WHO MADE YOU WHAT YOU ARE TODAY.