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#1 a_blind_man
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Now, I'm not looking for specific models, it's not another thread of "what's better, this or this?"  I am probably going to build a gaming PC and I need to know what kind of parts I need.  I know I need:

CPU

Video card

Power supply

RAM

motherboard

sound card

disk drive

operating system

chassis

keyboard

mouse

speakers

headset 

 

Am I missing anything?  I want to make sure my various estimates include everything I need.

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#2 imprezawrx500
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you got a monitor?  you don't need to buy a soud card as every new mob has one intergrated but something like the x-fi exteme gamer will give better sound than the onboard.  looks like you have everything

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#3 purpleRz
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An optical drive - DVD-RW - sort of thing..
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#4 Avenger1324
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Cables - very easy to overlook, and you can't guarantee that the parts you order will come with the necessary cables to connect them to the rest of your system.

CPU Cooler - if you buy a retail CPU it will come with a stock cooler, but for better performance you should get a different cooler. If you buy your CPU as OEM (Original Equipment Manufacturer) all you get is the chip, so you will need a cooler for it. If you are buying a separate cooler make sure to get some Thermal paste such as Arctic Silver to put between the CPU and cooler.

Case/Chassis - make sure you buy one big enough for your components. Come high end graphics cards are very big, and you will struggle to fit them inside smaller cases. Some cases can also make use of extra case fans for improved cooling.

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#5 aura_enchanted
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if you dont plan on shilling out serious bread for a graphics card ($200+) id get your hands on a sapphire HD 3870 or a geforce 8600 or 8900. for power supply basically anything in excess or equivalent to 500W, for case im thinkin something ATX form factor from coolermaster or thermaltake.
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#6 aura_enchanted
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1 more thing for mouse and keyboard wireless that doesnt require batteries is always good id recommend a logitech mouse and keyboard unless this is going to be a gaming only PC in which i recommend the mercstealth keyboard and the razor deathadder or diamondback. as for headset w/e u like but its what u payed is what u get. speakers again is w/e.
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#7 marcthpro
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There another thing Topic Creator (TC) you should tell us ur budget that you can spend to the max a gaming machine is till expensive but much less then before
and also if you'r just playing 1280x1024 then 8800Gt is all fine mean while if you seek stronger : 4850 / 4870 / 9800GTX+ (recently greatly improved with newest Driver and price drop of 9800GTX+
for cpu you should pick one of those : 3 if ur a gamer it go as ur budget like i said
E8400 / E8500 / E8600 (CPU)
Video card (depend of ur budget) il start with average to top 8800GT / 4850 / 9800GTX+ / 4870 1GB GS(gold sample) it new / 260GTX maxcore / 280GTX
4870x2 / SLI one of the card from nvidia also an altnerative; but Require Different motherboard unless ur getting X58 SLI / Crossfire enable Like From Gigabyte
it a First in A while they Accept Both but The Core i7 is expensive and require enough skill to overlcock ti such as 920 i7 you should put ti to 4.0ghz each
and it will on some game tie a E8600 Overclocked to 3.8ghz
motherboard is based on cpu & video card Solution & Budget if you'r going enthusiast x48 / 790i ftw / X58 (core i7)
if ur a single card user with a extremely low possibility of crossfire (sli) P45 To go
PSU: PC&Cooling Silencer 750wats / corsair 750 wats / Thermaltake 700-750wats / (Do good job for single / twice some card) but not recommended (risked)
hX1000WATS / Antec Quadro 1200WATS (for enthusiast Extreme) (no risk)

Cpu cooler (if Case is Big as Cooler master 690 / Antec 900 / 1200 Select a thermalright 120 extreme / cooler master v8 and add a fan on it
Scythe S-flex Quiet & effifacncy : Scyhte KAZE 3000rpm; static pressure Loud & STrong
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#8 Sordidus
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Now, I'm not looking for specific models, it's not another thread of "what's better, this or this?"  I am probably going to build a gaming PC and I need to know what kind of parts I need.  I know I need:

CPU

Video card

Power supply

RAM

motherboard

sound card

disk drive

operating system

chassis

keyboard

mouse

speakers

headset 

 

Am I missing anything?  I want to make sure my various estimates include everything I need.

a_blind_man

Monitor and CPU Cooler.

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#9 marcthpro
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yep if he overlcock a cpu cooler is ness monitor he already got one ? if is not gaming higher then 1280x1024 i asked him a question if you saw sordidus but for that he must reply ;)
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#10 a_blind_man
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Hey guys, geez I'm sorry I totally spaced on this thread.  

Here comes my replies: To all who said what models I should get: again, I'm wasn't looking for specific parts.  But now that I know that I've got all the parts listed, I will take rig proposels if you would be so kind as to give them.  If you are going to tell me what to buy, keep in mind my $2500 buget.  I've never built a computer before so I really don't know what it good and what isn't, just that bigger numbers are usually better.  

There are a couple places I will not back down: 

Processor.  I want a quad.  I know they aren't necessary right now, but one of the arguments I keep making to my friends about the supremacy of PC gaming is that the computers last longer than 5 years, the average console generation length.  So with a quad-core I can at least touch games for 7-8 years I would think.  Keyword: TOUCH.  Not beat the crap out of. 

Video card.  Nothing less than Nvidia GTX 260.  In addition to the statement about longetivity made above, I have been plagued by video card issues my entire life.  Not this time.  By the way, I am not opposed to running ATI cards, I've just heard that some games with the Nvidia stamp on them will crash with ATI cards, foremost amongst these is Bioshock. So, any recommendations? 

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if you seek to stay 5-6 year it almost mission impossible unless you love the FEature Low Resolution : NO AA :and play with the same game all ur free time and never try newest game. console doesn't upgrade graphic for a reason they can't stand it. so when yous ee gear of war 2 it will never get any better then gear of war 2 while pc game such as Criyis swarhead is just WAY Better then gear of war II the graphic and nwest game incoming. beside it epend of reoslution ur playing
if you seek that first get you self a X58 Corei7 920 or 940; but the review show 920 then overclock it / DDR3 3x2GB kit. + Cpu cooler; + some cheap video card and
wait for the 5870 or buy a 270-290GTX that come out in 3 week according what i heard also

Why X58 ? Corei7 Because in 2 year it will be compatible with newer cpu upgrade if you have 300-500$ for a 33nm shrink Westmere & sandybridge +2 core instead of Bloomfield 4 core each with 2 Tread processor& (the current 920/940/965 are 2.6 Ghz 280-350$/ 2.9 Ghz500$ / 3,1GHZ extreme (999$);
and will upgrade to For Westmere & sandybridge + 2 Core; 3.3 to 3.8ghz according offical stat for now it may climb to 4.0ghz as stock who know there will be
with that ur machine will durate for video card if you seek longl ifespawn of a machine i thard to obtain unless ur not enthuasiast at all
So in big word get corei7 and as soon you'r unsafisited with video card buy a second for sli / crossfire
also another thing X58 FROM EVGA  IS ONE OF  THE FIRST CROSSFIRe-SLI motherboard OFFICALIZED and Existing on Buying on place such as newegg.com and given information from the offical website of manifacturer  meaning you can run 3x 8800GT / or 3x 4870 ect.. 
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you can always buy rechargable batteries for wireless keyboard and mouse.  I have no idea why anyone would still use disposable battries anymore
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if you seek to stay 5-6 year it almost mission impossible unless you love the FEature Low Resolution : NO AA :and play with the same game all ur free time and never try newest game. console doesn't upgrade graphic for a reason they can't stand it. so when yous ee gear of war 2 it will never get any better then gear of war 2 while pc game such as Criyis swarhead is just WAY Better then gear of war II the graphic and nwest game incoming. beside it epend of reoslution ur playing
if you seek that first get you self a X58 Corei7 920 or 940; but the review show 920 then overclock it / DDR3 3x2GB kit. + Cpu cooler; + some cheap video card and
wait for the 5870 or buy a 270-290GTX that come out in 3 week according what i heard also

Why X58 ? Corei7 Because in 2 year it will be compatible with newer cpu upgrade if you have 300-500$ for a 33nm shrink Westmere & sandybridge +2 core instead of Bloomfield 4 core each with 2 Tread processor& (the current 920/940/965 are 2.6 Ghz 280-350$/ 2.9 Ghz500$ / 3,1GHZ extreme (999$);
and will upgrade to For Westmere & sandybridge + 2 Core; 3.3 to 3.8ghz according offical stat for now it may climb to 4.0ghz as stock who know there will be
with that ur machine will durate for video card if you seek longl ifespawn of a machine i thard to obtain unless ur not enthuasiast at all
So in big word get corei7 and as soon you'r unsafisited with video card buy a second for sli / crossfire
also another thing X58 FROM EVGA  IS ONE OF  THE FIRST CROSSFIRe-SLI motherboard OFFICALIZED and Existing on Buying on place such as newegg.com and given information from the offical website of manifacturer  meaning you can run 3x 8800GT / or 3x 4870 ect.. 
marcthpro

Um, thanks? Sorry, but I really have no idea what you just said. Punctuation helps.

When I said I wanted it to last, I emphasized  the keyword TOUCH. Low/medium settings I'm fine with; been playing with 'em for a while now.

you can always buy rechargable batteries for wireless keyboard and mouse.  I have no idea why anyone would still use disposable battries anymoreimprezawrx500

I'm probably going to get wired stuff.  It's cheaper, and honestly I don't care if my mouse/keyboard is wireless. 

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#14 rik666
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I've just heard that some games with the Nvidia stamp on them will crash with ATI cards, foremost amongst these is Bioshock. So, any recommendations? a_blind_man

No, games like crysis have run better on nvidia, showed favouritism n' that. But it's stabilised now, don't ignore ATI because of that, despite nvidia trying to buy out game developers, (or not, but some games certinatley seem nvidia optimised in benchmarks, i don't like that marketing). ATI are stronger at the moment, and are simply making better products for the money, e.g. cheaper, and faster.

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#15 gerb316
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id recomend a good cpu cooler (i wouldnt use the stock cooler included) its worth spendin a few £'s/$'s too ..... but other than that it all sounds cool

as for you wanting to be future proof for 5-6 years its not possible........ i wish it was lol

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#16 Sordidus
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Hey guys, geez I'm sorry I totally spaced on this thread.  

Here comes my replies: To all who said what models I should get: again, I'm wasn't looking for specific parts.  But now that I know that I've got all the parts listed, I will take rig proposels if you would be so kind as to give them.  If you are going to tell me what to buy, keep in mind my $2500 buget.  I've never built a computer before so I really don't know what it good and what isn't, just that bigger numbers are usually better.  

There are a couple places I will not back down: 

Processor.  I want a quad.  I know they aren't necessary right now, but one of the arguments I keep making to my friends about the supremacy of PC gaming is that the computers last longer than 5 years, the average console generation length.  So with a quad-core I can at least touch games for 7-8 years I would think.  Keyword: TOUCH.  Not beat the crap out of. 

Video card.  Nothing less than Nvidia GTX 260.  In addition to the statement about longetivity made above, I have been plagued by video card issues my entire life.  Not this time.  By the way, I am not opposed to running ATI cards, I've just heard that some games with the Nvidia stamp on them will crash with ATI cards, foremost amongst these is Bioshock. So, any recommendations? 

a_blind_man

Just get the new Core i7 920. I was ready to build a new system around the E8400 but after read some reviews about Core i7 performance, I think it's worth the extra money and it's time for a Quad lol. I'll probably get a GTX260 too.

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#17 aura_enchanted
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you can always buy rechargable batteries for wireless keyboard and mouse.  I have no idea why anyone would still use disposable battries anymoreimprezawrx500

hey i paid nothing for my wireless mouse and keyboard. there brand new even have the box it came in and the reciept. my older brother was going to throw it out cause he didnt like it. i have it, use it, and its just fine as for batteries i buy dollar store packs of 90 for like 9 bucks, i change em once every month. thats 45 months of use before i gotta get more, rechargables do last i wont argue, but they get lost and stop working eventually. disposeables are ment to wear out and in my case if i lose one i got a few dozen more :P seriously if i had a charger for the pair id swap in a heart beat, or if they ran on usb. 

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[QUOTE="imprezawrx500"]you can always buy rechargable batteries for wireless keyboard and mouse.  I have no idea why anyone would still use disposable battries anymoreaura_enchanted

hey i paid nothing for my wireless mouse and keyboard. there brand new even have the box it came in and the reciept. my older brother was going to throw it out cause he didnt like it. i have it, use it, and its just fine as for batteries i buy dollar store packs of 90 for like 9 bucks, i change em once every month. thats 45 months of use before i gotta get more, rechargables do last i wont argue, but they get lost and stop working eventually. disposeables are ment to wear out and in my case if i lose one i got a few dozen more :P seriously if i had a charger for the pair id swap in a heart beat, or if they ran on usb. 

That's still a lot of batteries to be getting through. I use regular (non-rechargeable) batteries in my wireless Logitech keyboard, and they last on average 18 months. I use high charge rechargeable batteries in my wireless Logitech MX700 mouse, and they have been in use for 4+ years. Finally the docking station wore out and I swapped to the wired MX518. I got wireless keyboard and mouse mainly because I could, and while they have been very good, when I replace them I will be going back to wired. I just don't need the wireless capability and it does add one more thing to go wrong. The initial budget wireless keyboard and mouse that came with my PC were awful and couldn't handle having 3 buttons pressed at the same time.
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#19 a_blind_man
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id recomend a good cpu cooler (i wouldnt use the stock cooler included) its worth spendin a few £'s/$'s too ..... but other than that it all sounds cool

as for you wanting to be future proof for 5-6 years its not possible........ i wish it was lol

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Look, I'm not trying to future proof. I want to meet minimum requirements for 5-6 years. MINIMUM. That is doable, the computer I'm using now is 5-6 years old and can play most (non first-person) games. At minimum settings.
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What About if i try to make a wishlit visible trough newegg.com register on the website if you haven't
Il put a X58 / Corei7 920 or 940 / video card /Power supply units 1000wats / Video card of you'r budget you say
DDR3 Of best quality i can find / 500gb hard drive / cpu cooler that can fit on 1336 cause if you get a X58 (Coire 7) 1336 You will be futureproof for a while
because the cpu is self can be changed like how you change a light bulb on a lamps when it start to be less bright and not good on game instead you change cpu
for more performant then previous which light bulb don't have that option ;) because if you get those accordg in 2-3 you get 300-500$ and you'r game are not enough smooth well you add a new cpu that was faster then previous or you just keep upgrade video card That this motherboard support Two Solution Sli / Crossfire 3x 16x PCI-E slots But It techincaly when tri-sli / crossfire Two Lane 16x PCI-E 1.0 and one lane PCI-e 2.0 which you may not even understand what it mean even i hardly understand the 1.0 and 2.0 thing ;)

But the Review show you can have a like Two 4870x2 or Two 9800Gx2 or 3 4870 / 3 280GTX ect.
but again if you want it to be even more futureproof youd have to wait february / march why ?!
because 5870 will relase with DX11 : DX11 Game will occur in 2010 : but the Direct x 11 Will be Ready Again only few game may end direct X11 : But the graphic could be much more nicer then direct x 10 vs direct x 9 a bigger jump but again the card would be natively supporting it which is nice you see my point of view ?
I know you'r arent good in pc so i tryed at least to explain you something ?

also game on the Ps4 / Xbox 3 or 720 Will occur in 2011-2012 according what i heard and would be native direct X 11 Which wasn't case with Xbox 360 & Ps3
They do Both a Simulation of direct X 10 While Xbox Did Run direct x 9.c
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To try and help answer your question in this thread......it sounds like you have a somewhat good idea on the makes and models of the hardware parts you want...... my suggestion is just make sure they are all compatible with each other. The only parts I see adding to your list is an optical drive (DVD burner/player)......which I think someone had mentioned earlier and a nice after-market CPU cooler. (I personally like Zalman)...Also pick a case that has a high cooling efficiency, a full-tower if you have the space and aluminum.

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True but he said he don't want to change the whole system before 2013 so how is that possible ? well X58 common know as Crossfire / 3-way sli compatible motherboard that support 1336 cpu Core i7 920 / 940 / 965 from now are from 2.6 to 3.1Ghz From 250$ to 999$
in 2010 intel tic-tac processors shown Two now cpu incoming that fit into LGA 1336 Wesmere sandybridge with more core then previous generation
and higher clock speed there for higher L1-L2 Cache L3 Cache And Better Architecture and shrinked in size making from 45nm to 33nm reducing the production cost and reducing the cost price of cpu like E6000 series vs E8000 Series 65nm vs 45nm arhicture upgraded and clock it why Series 8 kill series 6

It just normal that core i7 sandybridge corei7 Wesmtere kill the Series core i7 bloomfield
and said to be fitting on X58 So no need to buy a X68 for run a Corei7 3.6Ghz 6 Core which each 2 Processor Of Tread (which is shown in task-bar when you do controll+alt+delete simultaneously

current corei7 X58 is 4 Core : with each 2 Core = 4 core who do the clocking : 2 Core with each who do the program so it make 4x2 = 8. 6x2 = 12 = better
For compatiblity i'm enough skilled to make sure all is compatible it not require a huge knowledge at all but to find what suit you best for price require more knowledge ;) as far i did read it said X58 Would support the 33nm shrink that add + 2 core but in reality it; + 8 core. in how it work the arhitecture you see ?

a logical example if a car tire is gettnng too used do you must buy a new car or change the tire ? what if the tire become the cpu ? and the motherboard the tire holder ;) ?
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#23 a_blind_man
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Thanks again guys.  Also, I probably will upgrade during that timespan but in case of cashflow issues I want to be insured, so to speak.  

I won't be making my purchase until Feburary or March anyway because of said cashflow issues, so I wouldn't have to delay tremendously for the i7 processors.

Here's another question: for gaming, is DX10 worth dealing with Vista?

Also, did you say that you could tell me whether certain parts were compatible if I were to bring up a list? 

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yes more dx10 game incoming so get vista and are you thinking of getting core i7 by then ? if you want a really long life-spawn else i would said Q9650 since it a quad that do performances / cpu near E8500 4.0ghoc when oc. that the problems with most of cpu from stock they aren't enough awesome but in overclocked it another meaning way got that point topic creator ?
Because i'm really patient and have much time to kill :D Il show you something. that prove cpu / clock can mean a whole new thing to gaming experience
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2008/11/06/overclocking-intel-core-i7-920/6
that for cryisis i can't copy image but url you to see it the top is better the down is worst  the frame rate per second system work this way
60 fps =perfection for average . & when it go 200+ then it mean the game just won't lag a second does of ur hardware ;) occuring in old game from 2003 with a 4870x2 example :P Warcraft 3 the frozen throne i still love it but i got a super overkill card for it i can't lag because the frame never go below 60fps even for minumum fps but getting new game soon that require More and a 1920x1200 monitor soon so it gonna change see my point ?
35 = good. moderate lag sometime in the animation it so-so you can bare with it in average fps  = what display the longest time on the bar of fps
25 = meh.. it so like not attracking that you want to lower performances for in average fps
15 = why does it so slow = reduce graphic resolution / graphic such as AA / AF in order to increase the fps it can be seing by FRAPS unregistered / Xfire in-game support 2.0
which is somethings console don't suffer but they suffer lag cause something the game isn't made to handle such huge animation example : supreme commander / command and conquer 3 in 2 v 2  when too much action the system go slower but the graphic don't go lower for xbox 360 while pc can be upgrade countless time and in constant evolution to fix this but ti cost high but there mostly alway a option which is what great with pc

that the only cons of the 360 / ps3 / when there too much lag does of the animation and not the net connection but you can't
the system game designer try to make it the more stable to be not too hard on the hardware a game must be 35-60fps on a console a number you don't see
or can't count but on pc you can because you can change resolution to 1024x780 / 1280x1024 / 1680x150 / x1920x1200 / 2560x1600
and change the graphic level but if i could get all the graphic level to the max which is  to the highest  and i could if i can for a such (x limited budget i can allow my self) like i just didh with my pc in my rig
it why i made a such strong pc as you can see in my Sig (whic his colored for difference hardware part and make it look nice
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#25 marcthpro
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The pc you being showmed in private messager the Acer predator isn't really worth is money i paid 1600$ CAd for mine and it far stronger then it
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883103165 it okay to be a noob want it but i recommend not. i'm not here to hurt you
your' money wallet would kiss me if it ad emotion&; and a brain lol but we not in cartoon world where chair talk like in simpson hallowen :D i saw it ad a mouth
i being saying core i7 around 300$-500$ cpu : 350$ motherboard 280-300$ of ram
a 4870x2 / a good case / airflow / overclocking it if you can would make you have it near 1800$ and duration really long
you can go lower cost if you want and go cheap card and put better card later ur the boss but i'm here to help you
it cause of you'r requesting in a pc duration i said core i7 cause newer core will come while for the machine right now E8600 / Q9550 is the very last of them
and the other don't worth the extra money . mean awhile the newest generation are in upgrading there for longer durability it just logic
most of user i know will change at last video card every year or two year if it really strong
and the whole pc / or just change cpu every 2-3 year perhap 5 year for some that are low budget but as to be ur passion to play video game on pc for worth spending that ;)