Couldnt agree more about the console ports, cough,cough i mean "pc versions", they jsut dont care they want us to switch to consoles since they dont sell much on pc!dakan45what about cough cough, console version of games like divinity ii, oblivion, fallout 3, dragon age, left 4 dead, half-life 2, team fortress 2, risen, far cry 2 etc...?
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[QUOTE="dakan45"]Couldnt agree more about the console ports, cough,cough i mean "pc versions", they jsut dont care they want us to switch to consoles since they dont sell much on pc!kevy619what about cough cough, console version of games like divinity ii, oblivion, fallout 3, dragon age, left 4 dead, half-life 2, team fortress 2, risen, far cry 2 etc...? Not all of those are ports onto pc, some you listed like the vavle games were ports to console. Also, Oblivion etc. were awesome on pc because of mods.
[QUOTE="dakan45"]Couldnt agree more about the console ports, cough,cough i mean "pc versions", they jsut dont care they want us to switch to consoles since they dont sell much on pc!kevy619what about cough cough, console version of games like divinity ii, oblivion, fallout 3, dragon age, left 4 dead, half-life 2, team fortress 2, risen, far cry 2 etc...? Divinity and risen? Those games are designed with pc in mind and they were also pretty mediocre in design, so we got a console version with weird and broken control system, which makes risen and divinity 2 a mes to play. Oblivion and fallout 2 were designed with consoles in mind, nothing wrong with em neither wrong on pc either. Dragon age is designed with pc in mind, but they manage to make the console versions good by changing the camera and instead of using the mouse, you know use controller buttons to do various actions. Thats how games should be done. Diffirent on pc and diffirent in console. I am looking at you fallout 3,borderlands and biohsock. adding mouse support into the inventory must be a a standard on the pc version!! Valve games were fine on consoles, its not like they are complicated with hard ai and weapon innacuracy like stalker and arma, its not like they have many buttons and inventory, infact you cant even lean. They play like the average console shooter, so no need for gameplay tweaks or control tweaks, also the graphics are not as amazing as most games in 2009-20010, so they is nothing to worry about perfomance since the graphics are pretty dated! Far cry was never ported to a console, instead they make seperate games for consoles (If thats what you are refering) I hope cyrtek does the same with crysis 2 versions. If you refer to far cry 2? Well it controls and plays like a console game. Only noteworthy thing is the engine which looks and perfoms good on all 3 systems!
[QUOTE="dakan45"]Couldnt agree more about the console ports, cough,cough i mean "pc versions", they jsut dont care they want us to switch to consoles since they dont sell much on pc!kevy619what about cough cough, console version of games like divinity ii, oblivion, fallout 3, dragon age, left 4 dead, half-life 2, team fortress 2, risen, far cry 2 etc...? + supreme commander 1 and 2 ,tropico 3,C&C3 etc....?
[QUOTE="kevy619"][QUOTE="dakan45"]Couldnt agree more about the console ports, cough,cough i mean "pc versions", they jsut dont care they want us to switch to consoles since they dont sell much on pc!dakan45what about cough cough, console version of games like divinity ii, oblivion, fallout 3, dragon age, left 4 dead, half-life 2, team fortress 2, risen, far cry 2 etc...? Divinity and risen? Those games are designed with pc in mind and they were also pretty mediocre in design, so we got a console version with weird and broken control system, which makes risen and divinity 2 a mes to play. Oblivion and fallout 2 were designed with consoles in mind, nothing wrong with em neither wrong on pc either. Dragon age is designed with pc in mind, but they manage to make the console versions good by changing the camera and instead of using the mouse, you know use controller buttons to do various actions. Thats how games should be done. Diffirent on pc and diffirent in console. I am looking at you fallout 3,borderlands and biohsock. adding mouse support into the inventory must be a a standard on the pc version!! Valve games were fine on consoles, its not like they are complicated with hard ai and weapon innacuracy like stalker and arma, its not like they have many buttons and inventory, infact you cant even lean. They play like the average console shooter, so no need for gameplay tweaks or control tweaks, also the graphics are not as amazing as most games in 2009-20010, so they is nothing to worry about perfomance since the graphics are pretty dated! Far cry was never ported to a console, instead they make seperate games for consoles (If thats what you are refering) I hope cyrtek does the same with crysis 2 versions. If you refer to far cry 2? Well it controls and plays like a console game. Only noteworthy thing is the engine which looks and perfoms good on all 3 systems! Personally I thought all games mentioned were terrible on console, not even sure how people consider them playable ( other than extremely low standards).
Currently PC looks and performs better, until the next console comes out. Then after a while PC will be better again.DigiTM73
At any time in the timeline PC performs better. The best moment in this gen for the consoles in the technical point of view was when Gears 1 was released as 360 exclusive, but even at the time PC hardware was a lot more powerful, as a few months later S.T.A.L.K.E.R. showed.
PC is not suffering injuries because the consoles; piracy is making PC gaming development unprofitable to some corporations, that are jumping towards consoles because the higher inherent resistance to piracy. With the enhance of the use of systems as Battle.net 2.0, Steam and other DRM clients to control the legit use of the games the future looks better to PC as gaming platform. But in the process of trying to survive and make more profitable games some concepts and degrees of quality in PC gaming is being nerfed.
Far cry was never ported to a console, instead they make seperate games for consoles (If thats what you are refering)dakan45
I thought Far Cry was ported over to the (original) XBox and the Wii (saw it at Gamestop). The box art seem to indicate it's the same game.
[QUOTE="dakan45"] Far cry was never ported to a console, instead they make seperate games for consoles (If thats what you are refering)jun_aka_pekto
I thought Far Cry was ported over to the (original) XBox and the Wii (saw it at Gamestop). The box art seem to indicate it's the same game.
There are 3 console far cry games, Far cry insticts for xbox, Insticts with evlolution expansion on x360 and vegeance on the wii There are diffirent games, diffirent maps, characters, weapons, story and gameplay. Eg: you can turn into a monster and you can dual weld plus pocket knife used as stealth and silenced assault rilfe. The story and maps and everything else is diffirent but the idea is the same, you are jack carver on an island with mercs and monsters, even the evil doctor and the female cia agent are there but the everything else, story, gameplay, weapons, maps, they are all diffirent![QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"][QUOTE="dakan45"] Far cry was never ported to a console, instead they make seperate games for consoles (If thats what you are refering)dakan45
I thought Far Cry was ported over to the (original) XBox and the Wii (saw it at Gamestop). The box art seem to indicate it's the same game.
There are 3 console far cry games, Far cry insticts for xbox, Insticts with evlolution expansion on x360 and vegeance on the wii There are diffirent games, diffirent maps, characters, weapons, story and gameplay. Eg: you can turn into a monster and you can dual weld plus pocket knife used as stealth and silenced assault rilfe. The story and maps and everything else is diffirent but the idea is the same, you are jack carver on an island with mercs and monsters, even the evil doctor and the female cia agent are there but the everything else, story, gameplay, weapons, maps, they are all diffirent!Oh ok. I wonder if any of the other versions are better than the original pc version (not necessarily graphics) in gameplay and story.
I fail to understand how l4d is terrible on a console and far cry 2 or fallout 3 are terrible too since they were made for a console, aim assist much? :P Not all games have so much aim assist on consoles, that does not make them terrible, there are games with far worse aiming on consoles!dakan45
Dude...ALL the FPS games on the consoles are bad...no wait...they are very very very bad...exactlly because of the auto aim!For example in COD MW2(just an example)if you try to aim on a fixed/moving target other then another player/cpu, the percentage will be mind blowing(in a bad way)...if you try to aim and shoot a tree for example,with a time limit of 20 secs,i bet my life on it that you will empty a whole mag and perhaps only one bullet will hit the target...BUT when you aim and shoot at another player you will have a high chance to make a headshot even...guess what?AUTO-AIM.I dont know where is the pleasure to play when you know ur not responsable for the kills you make or for the headshots you make???
One thing is certain: consoles,xbox and WII mainly, are made for the masses not for gamers!And developers are making games for crowds/masses not for gamers...and its nothing to blame on them...they need to get paid...and guess what?if they do an exclusive title for a certain console they will get more money as they would do if that game would be a multi platform....and thats human nature...greed and hungry for money is in each and everyone of us...so stop blameing devs for selling their souls to the devil coz every one of us would do the same for the money!Its all about the Benjamins :D
Another thing i would like to point out is the issue regardin' the piracy....even if there would be no piracy on PC even if... an xbox360 exclusive title would bring more money in the pockets of developers then a multi platform or a PC exclusive...you guys know why?Because for the fact that xbox360 owners are nothing more then masses/crowds and PC owners are gamers...let me explain :D : Most of the PC gamers are fans of specific types of games....for example...an RTS pc gamer,fan of this type of games,would never buy or try to play race/driving sims games(i dont whant to say that none of the RTS fans will never play race games only that the prercentage of the ones who do play both types of games is low very low).So even if there would be no piracy on PC's that wouldnt bring more money to the dev's in comparison with an xbox360 exclusive title.
On the other hand xbox360 owners would buy every exclusive title for their consoles coz they are consumers NOT gamers...they dont make distinction between games genre...look at an xbox360 owner and at his collection of games,you will see that he has all kinds of games...from FPS to RPG's to adventure games arcade games every type of games....but if you look at a PC gamer collection you will see that 70% of his game collection are games of one specific genre.
Like i said even if there would be 0% piracy on PC that would not make all the PC gamers buy,for example Alan Wake...coz the pc gamers are divided almost equally when it comes to what types of games do they like to play...but i bet my life on it that 7 out of 10 xbox360 owners would buy Alan Wake since they are consumers not gamers.
Oh and btw...you guys realise that gamespot is a xbox360 fan site?and we are actually argueing with each other on the devil play ground? :D
Anyways i see that there are many peopels on this forum who are passionate PC gamers and above that, intelligent persons...what if there would be a web site for pc gamers only where you guys could chat and somehow help pc gaming...i mean we are all making traffic on gamespot a site wich does nothing to support pc gaming and more than this is trying to kill it by promoting xbox360 in a shameless way....I and another friend of mine started a project of a FAN review web sites for pc only!If you guys want to take part of it feel free to pm me :P
The site will use this template and all cost regarding web domain and such are covered by me and my friend,all that we need are peopels willing to help...like forum moderators,news seekers,reviewers maybe,you get the point :)
There are 3 console far cry games, Far cry insticts for xbox, Insticts with evlolution expansion on x360 and vegeance on the wii There are diffirent games, diffirent maps, characters, weapons, story and gameplay. Eg: you can turn into a monster and you can dual weld plus pocket knife used as stealth and silenced assault rilfe. The story and maps and everything else is diffirent but the idea is the same, you are jack carver on an island with mercs and monsters, even the evil doctor and the female cia agent are there but the everything else, story, gameplay, weapons, maps, they are all diffirent![QUOTE="dakan45"][QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]
I thought Far Cry was ported over to the (original) XBox and the Wii (saw it at Gamestop). The box art seem to indicate it's the same game.
jun_aka_pekto
Oh ok. I wonder if any of the other versions are better than the original pc version (not necessarily graphics) in gameplay and story.
Depends on how you see it, for example in insticts you can use two mp5s and you turn into a mosnter at some point and you got health regen and meele attacks. Also there are some atmospheristic levels like inside a swamp, it feels like you are attacked from predators also the last level is a mansion where you defeat the bad doctor and the mutant rebels take their revenge on him. It plays like a console game without any innacuracy indicator or zooming. Basicly half life style fps gameplay.Dude...ALL the FPS games on the consoles are bad...no wait...they are very very very bad...exactlly because of the auto aim!rhazzyI stopped reading there, your statement is very biased and hatefull to the console control, not many fps have autoaim on consoles. Infact i believe you are just not used to play on consoles. Try starting with resistance 2, to me the control feels solid and immersive in that game. If you wanna have a discussion with me, then keep on open mind without bias and hate of fanboyism for any game or platform!
[QUOTE="rhazzy"]Dude...ALL the FPS games on the consoles are bad...no wait...they are very very very bad...exactlly because of the auto aim!dakan45I stopped reading there, your statement is very biased and hatefull to the console control, not many fps have autoaim on consoles. Infact i believe you are just not used to play on consoles. Try starting with resistance 2, to me the control feels solid and immersive in that game. If you wanna have a discussion with me, then keep on open mind without bias and hate of fanboyism for any game or platform!
The sky is blue. - this is me.
"the sky is blue?" I stopped reading there, your statement is very biased and hatefull to the sky colour - this is you.
I stopped reading there, your statement is very biased and hatefull to the console control, not many fps have autoaim on consoles. Infact i believe you are just not used to play on consoles. Try starting with resistance 2, to me the control feels solid and immersive in that game. If you wanna have a discussion with me, then keep on open mind without bias and hate of fanboyism for any game or platform![QUOTE="dakan45"][QUOTE="rhazzy"]Dude...ALL the FPS games on the consoles are bad...no wait...they are very very very bad...exactlly because of the auto aim!rhazzy
The sky is blue. - this is me.
"the sky is blue?" I stopped reading there, your statement is very biased and hatefull to the sky colour - this is you.
The sky is indeed blue, but saying that all fpa games on consoles are very,very,very,very bad just because of some autoaim is biased. If it is so bad then why so many people like it? As you see its not a fact as you believe it too be. No, fps are not bad on consoles thats not a fact to consider my reply unreallistic. If you cant have a logicall discussion without bias then i cannot do anything. Just go and say those things on general games discussion and you get the same response or people will say that its just you not playing on consoles and liking pc too much![QUOTE="rhazzy"]Dude...ALL the FPS games on the consoles are bad...no wait...they are very very very bad...exactlly because of the auto aim!dakan45I stopped reading there, your statement is very biased and hatefull to the console control, not many fps have autoaim on consoles. Infact i believe you are just not used to play on consoles. Try starting with resistance 2, to me the control feels solid and immersive in that game. If you wanna have a discussion with me, then keep on open mind without bias and hate of fanboyism for any game or platform! every console FPS has aim assist or some form of Auto aim added to help the player. This was actually built into the structure of the CoD games on consoles. The tutorial lets you know that the cross hair "snaps" to targets if you are within a certain radius of it.
[QUOTE="dakan45"][QUOTE="rhazzy"]Dude...ALL the FPS games on the consoles are bad...no wait...they are very very very bad...exactlly because of the auto aim!gamer620I stopped reading there, your statement is very biased and hatefull to the console control, not many fps have autoaim on consoles. Infact i believe you are just not used to play on consoles. Try starting with resistance 2, to me the control feels solid and immersive in that game. If you wanna have a discussion with me, then keep on open mind without bias and hate of fanboyism for any game or platform! every console FPS has aim assist or some form of Auto aim added to help the player. This was actually built into the structure of the CoD games on consoles. The tutorial lets you know that the cross hair "snaps" to targets if you are within a certain radius of it. Not all, resistance 1 did not at all for example. But anyway why is that bad? If there was no form of aim assist the game would be frustrating, infact some games like bioshock and call of juarez bound in blood could use some since they cant disable the mouse accelaration which results into the exact opposite point of playing on a pc, not being able to easilly aim accuratelly!
[QUOTE="rhazzy"][QUOTE="dakan45"] I stopped reading there, your statement is very biased and hatefull to the console control, not many fps have autoaim on consoles. Infact i believe you are just not used to play on consoles. Try starting with resistance 2, to me the control feels solid and immersive in that game. If you wanna have a discussion with me, then keep on open mind without bias and hate of fanboyism for any game or platform!dakan45
The sky is blue. - this is me.
"the sky is blue?" I stopped reading there, your statement is very biased and hatefull to the sky colour - this is you.
The sky is indeed blue, but saying that all fpa games on consoles are very,very,very,very bad just because of some autoaim is biased. If it is so bad then why so many people like it? As you see its not a fact as you believe it too be. No, fps are not bad on consoles thats not a fact to consider my reply unreallistic. If you cant have a logicall discussion without bias then i cannot do anything. Just go and say those things on general games discussion and you get the same response or people will say that its just you not playing on consoles and liking pc too much!A lot of peopels like this games ISNT A VALID ARGUMENT. A lot of peopels like to drink coca-cola that dosent mean coca-cola is the best drink out there just because everyone is drinking cola....
if you would read what i wrote you wouldnt make the comment above...i said clearlly that xbox360 owners are CONSUMERS who dosent have a clue about quality of the game,they are consumers!!!! And thats a fact!
An example: You cannot decide whos a better driver by giving to a driver a Ferrari and to the other driver a Volkswagen...either you give both a Ferrari either a Volkswagen...but in most cases drivers should race on the better car...wich is obviouslly the Ferarri....same with games...u can only determine if a game quality is good by playing it on the superior most advanced that has most features platform...and thats the PC.....from the start the quality of a game will suffer if its made for xbox360 since this console is inferior to PC regarding CONTROLS,GRAPHIC QUALITY,FPS,CUSTOMIZATION...hell about everything!!!!
How can i be bias or fanboi if everything i said in this post is true?I guess in your vision telling the true means to be a fanboi or bias...
PC gaming is not dying, it is becoming more refined.
While we may not have as many titles as consoles in terms of new releases, the quality of the games we get is definately superior.
Rarely do I say to myself "Damn, I wish I had a console so I could play that game". The last time I said that it was because MGS4 looked like a lot of fun
:( I am sorry but if you say that xbox users OR ps3 OR wii users or everyone has no clue about the quallity of the game then i must reply that the same goes for pc gamers but they use other arguments to define quality, infact i could care less what they think is qualitty and what not. Things are the way they are. As for pc beeing superior? For that to be clearly and answer then the gamedevelopers got to make the game only for pc so there wont be any graphical limititations or control issues like bioshock annoying mouse accelaration on pc. But even when that happens and the game is exclusive, there is not always quality. So at the end you cant clearly say that games are terrible just because they could be better on pc. Also that does not apply to everyone and it does not apply for everything, there are too many factors and events to count, that being said i refuse to continue this argument because it can go on and on forever.You dont like playing on consoles, dont play on them but dont say that games are terrible because that is not true since console gamers outnumber pc gamers 10>1 in population amount.dakan45
Your comment reflects your intelligence..."i dont wanna continue disscution with you..." you have no arguments to back up your comments...ived came up with arguments and facts in my comments...all you did is trolling...you didnt gave any sane/logical/valid argument in ur comments...
PC IS MILES AHEAD XBOX360...can you give me one JUST ONE capitol where xbox360 is better then a PC...regarding hardware...most of the games that u belive that are better on console because on the PC they perform bad is because they are ports...if developers out there will make a build from ground up for PC and a same for xbox360 the difference between PC games and xbox360 games will be a mind blowing one...
Oh and you do realize that u are making my point stronger when you say "console gamers outnumber pc gamers 10>1 in population amount"...consoles owners are costumers not gamers ...you do realize that?!Did you ever heard about the saying "quality over quantity"?....and another fact,how many xbox360 owners are between the ages of 6-14 years?how many xbox360 owners know what an RPG,FPS,RTS means??My point is that xbox360 owners are buying everything that get trown on their way...as i said xbox360 owners are just masses/crowds and MS is milking them for their money...
P.S. Oh and if you are going to respond to my post please stop trolling like you did in your last comments.Thank you.
Lets be fair here. Consoles have good shooters. If you dont like them doesnt mean they arent good. My examples
PS2: MoH: Frontline
XboX: Tom Clancy Games / Halo
PS3: Resistance
X360: Halo
Wii: Red steal? Idk Metro PRime or whatever its called.
PC has more but those are good ones ^
They are good shooters, but if you were to compare them to PC exclusive shooters, or even multiplatform FPS games on the PC, they will be average at best.Lets be fair here. Consoles have good shooters. If you dont like them doesnt mean they arent good. My examples
PS2: MoH: Frontline
XboX: Tom Clancy Games / Halo
PS3: Resistance
X360: Halo
Wii: Red steal? Idk Metro PRime or whatever its called.
PC has more but those are good ones ^
JGAMROT
[QUOTE="dakan45"]:( I am sorry but if you say that xbox users OR ps3 OR wii users or everyone has no clue about the quallity of the game then i must reply that the same goes for pc gamers but they use other arguments to define quality, infact i could care less what they think is qualitty and what not. Things are the way they are. As for pc beeing superior? For that to be clearly and answer then the gamedevelopers got to make the game only for pc so there wont be any graphical limititations or control issues like bioshock annoying mouse accelaration on pc. But even when that happens and the game is exclusive, there is not always quality. So at the end you cant clearly say that games are terrible just because they could be better on pc. Also that does not apply to everyone and it does not apply for everything, there are too many factors and events to count, that being said i refuse to continue this argument because it can go on and on forever.You dont like playing on consoles, dont play on them but dont say that games are terrible because that is not true since console gamers outnumber pc gamers 10>1 in population amount.rhazzy
Your comment reflects your intelligence..."i dont wanna continue disscution with you..." you have no arguments to back up your comments...ived came up with arguments and facts in my comments...all you did is trolling...you didnt gave any sane/logical/valid argument in ur comments...
PC IS MILES AHEAD XBOX360...can you give me one JUST ONE capitol where xbox360 is better then a PC...regarding hardware...most of the games that u belive that are better on console because on the PC they perform bad is because they are ports...if developers out there will make a build from ground up for PC and a same for xbox360 the difference between PC games and xbox360 games will be a mind blowing one...
Oh and you do realize that u are making my point stronger when you say "console gamers outnumber pc gamers 10>1 in population amount"...consoles owners are costumers not gamers ...you do realize that?!Did you ever heard about the saying "quality over quantity"?....and another fact,how many xbox360 owners are between the ages of 6-14 years?how many xbox360 owners know what an RPG,FPS,RTS means??My point is that xbox360 owners are buying everything that get trown on their way...as i said xbox360 owners are just masses/crowds and MS is milking them for their money...
P.S. Oh and if you are going to respond to my post please stop trolling like you did in your last comments.Thank you.
Yeah my post reflects that my intelligence is high enough not to argue with a fanatic pc game who consider consoles and games crap just because he does not like the control. The only one who is trolling is you, especially the way you try to insult xbox gamers simply points biased and shows no discussion. I got nothing to say to someone who thinks that someone is superior/inferior depending on the system he plays on, let alone having a biased opinion that games are very, very,very, very bad on consoles just because of aim assist. Even the sole idea of making an argument with such a biased user who thinks his opinion on consoles sucking is a definitive fact, puts me in a thought that i will have a long train of explaining and understanding in order to tell you that consoles are not that bad. But it is impossible to change someones mind on games on consoles sucking just because they are on console, because that perspective has no logic behind it, only a huge amount of dislike against the consoles. So i will never be able to tell you anything and make you like the consoles.Why the hell you replied to me in the first place? To tell me your position of hatred on the consoles? I could care less about what you think about consoles!For one there is far more pc gamers than console gamers combine every console together and there is more pc gamers still. Consoles are like Macs they have a very small market share.JGAMROTThere are way more console gamers than PC gamers. Where in the hell did you dig up this idea as consoles having little market share?
well lets see the sales of PC is vastly larger than the amount of consoles.JGAMROT
You do know that people buy PCs without the intent to play games on it right? Most PCs are not used for gaming.
I am sorry, but I do not think people who play flash games are gamers.Of course but if they play runescape you are a gamer right so that is web based anyone that at work plays games in my opinion is a gamer just as much as Wii players or ipod touch gamers.
JGAMROT
Cheerleaders back in high school would play flash games. Yet I do not consider them to be gamers, nor do I think they themselves think they are.I admit there is a big difference between a serious hardocre gamer than a flash gamer but still a gamer none the less.
JGAMROT
At any time in the timeline PC performs better. The best moment in this gen for the consoles in the technical point of view was when Gears 1 was released as 360 exclusive, but even at the time PC hardware was a lot more powerful, as a few months later S.T.A.L.K.E.R. showed.
Ondoval
Actually, there was a time when the consoles were ahead. When the PS1 debuted in 1995, it had 3d-acceleration at least a year ahead of the 3dfx Voodoo. The N64 debuted during the summer of 1996. I didn't get my Diamond Monster 3D (3Dfx Voodoo) until Christmas of 1996 and that was a promo from Computability. The actual mainstream release of the 3Dfx Voodoo wasn't until spring of 1997.
So yes, the pc was actually behind for a short time. But when the Voodoo became available, it quickly blew away the PS1 and N64.
I still remember the games bundle: full Mechwarrior 2, Descent, Demos of EF2000 and Tomb Raider. GLQuake quickly followed and the pc never looked back.
I also had the pc SVGA and PS1 Tomb Raider. Fully patched to D3D*, Tomb Raider was the defining game that got pc gaming as we know it rolling. The differences between it and the PS1's was dramatic.
* I think it's 3dfx OpenGL. D3D was through a wrapper.
Whether or not Millerlight considers flash gamers as true PC gamers, well that doesnt matter because they really are. Flash games are kinda like a gateway drug, quite a few people I know that started on flash games like Farmville are now buying games for their PC and contributing to PC gaming.
I fail to see why my opinion does not matter, but yet yours does. Interesting!Whether or not Millerlight considers flash gamers as true PC gamers, well that doesnt matter because they really are.RossRichard
I fail to see why my opinion does not matter, but yet yours does. Interesting![QUOTE="RossRichard"]
Whether or not Millerlight considers flash gamers as true PC gamers, well that doesnt matter because they really are.millerlight89
You could have at least quoted the whole post. What you did was damage control.
Yeah my post reflects that my intelligence is high enough not to argue with a fanatic pc game who consider consoles and games crap just because he does not like the control. The only one who is trolling is you, especially the way you try to insult xbox gamers simply points biased and shows no discussion. I got nothing to say to someone who thinks that someone is superior/inferior depending on the system he plays on, let alone having a biased opinion that games are very, very,very, very bad on consoles just because of aim assist. Even the sole idea of making an argument with such a biased user who thinks his opinion on consoles sucking is a definitive fact, puts me in a thought that i will have a long train of explaining and understanding in order to tell you that consoles are not that bad. But it is impossible to change someones mind on games on consoles sucking just because they are on console, because that perspective has no logic behind it, only a huge amount of dislike against the consoles. So i will never be able to tell you anything and make you like the consoles.Why the hell you replied to me in the first place? To tell me your position of hatred on the consoles? I could care less about what you think about consoles!dakan45
Dude u just proved my point...what did i said in my last post???U CANT COME WITH ANY ARGUMENT AND UR JUST TROLLING!What did you do in ur last comment?You obviously didnt bring any argument to the table...so yes you are trolling.
[QUOTE="dakan45"] Yeah my post reflects that my intelligence is high enough not to argue with a fanatic pc game who consider consoles and games crap just because he does not like the control. The only one who is trolling is you, especially the way you try to insult xbox gamers simply points biased and shows no discussion. I got nothing to say to someone who thinks that someone is superior/inferior depending on the system he plays on, let alone having a biased opinion that games are very, very,very, very bad on consoles just because of aim assist. Even the sole idea of making an argument with such a biased user who thinks his opinion on consoles sucking is a definitive fact, puts me in a thought that i will have a long train of explaining and understanding in order to tell you that consoles are not that bad. But it is impossible to change someones mind on games on consoles sucking just because they are on console, because that perspective has no logic behind it, only a huge amount of dislike against the consoles. So i will never be able to tell you anything and make you like the consoles.Why the hell you replied to me in the first place? To tell me your position of hatred on the consoles? I could care less about what you think about consoles!rhazzy
Dude u just proved my point...what did i said in my last post???U CANT COME WITH ANY ARGUMENT AND UR JUST TROLLING!What did you do in ur last comment?You obviously didnt bring any argument to the table...so yes you are trolling.
lawl. You said all console shooters were terrible because of an auto-aim function. no actually you said.. they were very very very bad. He mentioned that. I've played PC games with an auto-aim function too, these games pretty much always came with an option to turn it off. If absoultely no console shooters gave you the option to turn off an auto-aim function (You havn't exactly proven all console shooters have auto-aim anyway) then I'd somewhat agree.
But I doubt this is the case and consoles and PC's quite often get the SAME shooters anyway ala COD. If its hardware capabilities your referring to, or the use of a controller then I gotta agree with him, your just being incredibly bias. Theres been great shooter games on even the oldest gen of hardware.
The problem with pc gaming only starts when you get into obsessive compulsive communities that think gaming 3 times per week for 2 hours minimum in raids is casual. Seriously even though I have done this at least I recognize the mmorpg community as being sick in the head whereas much of the player base in WOW think the game is fine as it is and even hates on what I term as casual. Seriously mmorpgs need to die as they are not games with the schedule raid leads and guild leaders have you on. That is where some of pc gaming is going wrong ....
If you are not part of this sick group then nothing is wrong with pc gaming ...
PS: someone please buy my WOW account .. email me at seans_life@hotmail.com
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Yeah I gotta agree with you there, my life schedule was based around molten core raids for a good while. So that definately ain't casual. Blizzard actually admit a lot of WoW players are addicts.
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