Just think of DLC as crappy and expensive expansion packs.
mudflaps2001
If its crappy... don't buy it. They will either stop or make them better as a result.
ahh.. capitalism
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[QUOTE="UpInFlames"]IF they defended it why do they offer paying for it in their service? Kind of hypocritical isnt it? Vavle should just reject company'/devs that want to have pay to DLCSteam is a store just like any other. If some developers want to charge money for DLC, I don't see why would Valve try to stop them. Valve is not going to start charging for their updates, neither is Relic, Epic or Stardock. Valve defended the free update approach just recently, that's how they do business and that's not going to change. Developers like Bethesda have other ideas and that's not going to change either - regardless of Steam.
Dr_Brocoli
Valve can't force other developers to follow their business model and attempting to do so would be arrogant, futile and simply a bad business move. Just like they're doing with gamers, Valve is providing developers with options so they can decide for themselves what's best for them. Valve is still one of the biggest proponent of regular free post-release content. That doesn't conflict with other developer's choices in regards to Steam in any way.
Sounds good to me and will probably bring more support to steam. I don't have a problem with paying for extra content as long as the price is fair for what we are getting. Free content always rules but few developers go that route these days. There is nothing wrong with this new feature.
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Just think of DLC as crappy and expensive expansion packs.
weirjf
If its crappy... don't buy it. They will either stop or make them better as a result.
ahh.. capitalism
The problem with capitalism is that most people are idiots and will continue to buy crap, leaving us paying $2.50 for horse armour.
I don't mean to sound cynical and I'm not anti-capitalism at all, but pretending that capitalism will fix everything is a little naive IMO.
The flip-side response though is that it gives developers incentive to create addition content for the game after release; knowing that they'll be creating additional revenue streams through doing so. Although I don't like developers that do charge for items that clearly could have been placed in the retail game from the begining.[QUOTE="G013M"][QUOTE="Gamartto"] This is exactly what I think about this DLC aproach, it is just like paying "only" $5 for the multiplayer option on RE5. What a shame!
BlueBirdTS
Even additional content should be free in my opinion. If it's not free then it should just be sold as part of an expansion pack. Valve has done a good job in general in regards to the Team Fortress 2 updates, and I'm sure it'll be the same case with Left4Dead. A lot of these games' sales are being driven by the free post-release content.
Why can't DLC basically be considered a mini-expansion pack? And from what I can tell, there seems to be a good word of mouth about which DLC is good and which is bad, as the recently released Operation Anchorage DLC proved (and Horse Armor from Oblivion). I'm not really seeing anything sinister going on here on the part of the developers and publishers.So why do people buy expansions? Basically it is the same thing, but on a larger scale for the most part.Aside from voice acting, professionalism and acess there's not much DLC offers that a good mod team can't.
DigitalExile
[QUOTE="DigitalExile"]So why do people buy expansions? Basically it is the same thing, but on a larger scale for the most part.Certainly has to do with story and how it effects the original game. Quite a few gamers are more reliant to the developers then the mod teams for that level of professionalism. It's also very effortful to depend on a mod team to distribute the mod on time as compared to the developer.Aside from voice acting, professionalism and acess there's not much DLC offers that a good mod team can't.
Agent_Kaliaver
microtransaction DLC is NOT VALVE'S FAULT. Let me emphasize that. Valve has consistently proven that they support the free update model, so don't go blaming them for allowing other companies to do it. Bethesda, now they I do have problems with.
Well as a service I feel PC gamers can be a bit more comfortable as compared to Microsoft controlling the service. On the XBL service, MS forces developers to charge for the content that should indeed be free. MS demonstrated Games for Windows Live on PC with a similar strategy and was unsuccessful; Lets just hope Valve(Steam) sticks to the formula of supporting free content for consumer gratification which by research has always worked well in the past.microtransaction DLC is NOT VALVE'S FAULT. Let me emphasize that. Valve has consistently proven that they support the free update model, so don't go blaming them for allowing other companies to do it. Bethesda, now they I do have problems with.
Brendissimo35
In my opinion, I see DLC as a good marketing tool. Why do people sell games in the first place? The reason people make games is for money, not to satisfy customers like you. They spend tons of money devloping a game, and want to make as much profit as possible. Sure, they make the game as enjoyable as possible so you will spread the word and invite more people to buy it.
Sure, DLC is probboaly pre-made, but the reason why they relase it later is for MONEY. You spend a few months playing the game, and get more into it, and they they hit you with DLC, and of course, if you enjoy the game and have the money, chances are you are going to buy it. Its pretty sad when I see people complaining about DLC...its a marketing tool...if they really cared about how u enjoy the game, then they would put it earlier into the game. If they're smart, they'll leave out pieces on purpose to earn more money. They are simply taking advantage of this new feature. If you dont like DLC, then simple; dont spend the money to buy it.
this is a sad day and here i thought valve cared but it all comes down to money...johnny27Are you kidding me, sure dlc helps them get a little bit of money in their pockets, but hell there a buisness, but they arent going to go EA on us, they are still giving out tons of free "DLC" like for example how they're give l4d 2 new free maps, and new game mod, and game tweaks.
DLC is a good idea, it makes companies want to make more content. Companies aren't going to make a half finished project and release the rest for more cash, there basically expansions
Why are people blaming Valve? They are just enabling developers to do on Steam what they have already been doing for a while now.
If Steam does not support what is already a widespread activity among developers; that is less reason for them to use the service.
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