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#1 Ninja_Dog
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You PC gamers are really missing out on the greatest game ever made.

I pity you and wish for you to experience this game that owns every other PC game to date.

Sign here to get Halo 3 on the PC and we will send it to Bungie.

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#2 Begemott
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I laugh at you
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#3 portujoel5
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First, you didn't put a link.

Second, this thread looks like "System wars" to me.

Finally, I don't really think that we are missing out on ANYTHING. Have you heard of Call of Duty 4, Crysis, team Fortress 2, Half Life series, Battlefield 2 (and 3)... I mean, we don't need that dumb shooter, mate. You guys can keep it.

P.S. Do you really belive Microsoft gives a crap about people wanting a game for the PC that's on console? you'll need 10million votes to get them to look at you, at least. I think you have more chances of winning the lottery and paying the porting of the game to PC than persuading them with a petition.

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#4 Forerunner-117
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I laugh at youBegemott

I'm laughing with you bro!:lol:

LOL @ OP dude maybe Halo 3 is one of the best CONSOLE games but don't even try saying that it owns every other PC game out there. Crysis for one, will blow it out of the water.

Now take into consideration OP, i'm not dissing on Halo. I'm a big Halo fan, it has a great story if you read the books and stuff but just don't try and cause fights here. You could've just said "hey let's get Halo 3 for the PC" but the way u said it was just a big mistake.

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#5 futs22
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I bet Halo 3 will come to PCs eventually, so this thread fails already. Besides, Halo 3 isn't the only game out there that is actually enjoyable.
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#6 Ninja_Dog
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dont laugh at me. you make me feel stupid. :(
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#7 Jinroh_basic
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whatever the general attitude of the pc gaming community is ( should be obvious as is shown in this thread.... ), it WILL come to pc. so relax, mate. you don't need no petition fer that.
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#8 GambitRox
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:lol:

Sorry, you knew this was coming anyway.

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#9 skrat_01
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No they arent missing out on much at all.

This is comming from someone who bought the game at launch

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#10 foxhound_fox
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A console shooter that is already outdated by current PC FPS standards? No thanks. I'll stick with the shooters that at least attempt to bring new and innovative things to the genre instead of just stagnating it.
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#11 nutcrackr
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I might check it out, but it has to come out before 2009 or I won't bother with it.
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#12 1005
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Halo3 is just another average run and gun console shooter, PC gamers are used to higher quality FPS games :P

So lets hope Halo3 doesn't make it on the PC.

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#13 Ninja_Dog
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A console shooter that is already outdated by current PC FPS standards? No thanks. I'll stick with the shooters that at least attempt to bring new and innovative things to the genre instead of just stagnating it.foxhound_fox

like Call of Duty 4?

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#14 foxhound_fox
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like Call of Duty 4?Ninja_Dog


Swing and a miss.

Try Crysis.
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#15 hatefull
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+ he didnt said every other PC shooter, he said every other PC game

haha funny guy

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#16 mfsa
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My housemate bought Halo 3 just around the time I bought Sam and Max Season 1. He kept nagging me to come play this awesome awesome game. But I was too busy having fun with the great game I'd bought.

Eventually, I gave in and went to check out the best game ever. After around thirty minutes of wave after wave of mediocrity, I just had to say something.

I said: I'm gonna go play more Sam and Max.

Really, Halo 3 is okay - and by console standards, it's legitimately great. But the PC just has a catalogue of shooters so vast and so awesome that Halo 3 would strugge to find a place. Really, 99% of PC gamers would rather play Crysis than Halo 3 - and a ton of PC gamers are utterly disillusioned with Crysis, which really says something.

Anyway, Halo 3 will probably hit the PCs eventually, but if Microsoft has two analysts to rub together, they won't treat it like they did Halo 2; I think it's become clear how little PC gamers care for Halo, and how MS can't use it to sell other products.

Also, online petitons don't work. But I'm thinking of starting an online petition to get this topic locked, I have a funny feeling that one would work.

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#17 skrat_01
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My housemate bought Halo 3 just around the time I bought Sam and Max Season 1. He kept nagging me to come play this awesome awesome game. But I was too busy having fun with the great game I'd bought.

Eventually, I gave in and went to check out the best game ever. After around thirty minutes of wave after wave of mediocrity, I just had to say something.

I said: I'm gonna go play more Sam and Max.

Really, Halo 3 is okay - and by console standards, it's legitimately great. But the PC just has a catalogue of shooters so vast and so awesome that Halo 3 would strugge to find a place. Really, 99% of PC gamers would rather play Crysis than Halo 3 - and a ton of PC gamers are utterly disillusioned with Crysis, which really says something.

Anyway, Halo 3 will probably hit the PCs eventually, but if Microsoft has two analysts to rub together, they won't treat it like they did Halo 2; I think it's become clear how little PC gamers care for Halo, and how MS can't use it to sell other products.

Also, online petitons don't work. But I'm thinking of starting an online petition to get this topic locked, I have a funny feeling that one would work.

mfsa

I had a similar experience.

I bought WiC collectors, and Halo 3 LE on the same day.

After playing through it on SP I was pretty pleased with the game, though had a few qualms.
Then I booted up WiC and began to play through the campaign, then comming back to Halo 3 all of its Single Player faults were jarring.

Jeez just comparing to the two -even though they were different genres was amazing. WiC made the Halo 3 singleplayer experience more of a chore if anything.

And then I played through Episode 2 and Portal, and my thoughts were confirmed again.

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#18 Mithrandir0x
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Swing and a miss.

Try Crysis.foxhound_fox

[SARCASM]Oooh yeah, great innovation. Now I like a Far Cry revamped, with some AI rework and tuned graphics and that should make the trick.[/SARCASM]

I don't really see what innovates Crysis from all other shooters. Except the astonishing and beautiful well made graphics this game has or the difficulty set, where you can adjust it in the way you can listen the bad guys speaking korean (quite original, but in the end, useless), I don't recall seeing something really new from this game. Maybe you can help me to see what gives to end-users that it should be bought not because of the graphics.

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#19 D9-THC
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I'd rather keep it off the PC...we don't need any Halo tards infecting PC gaming.
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#20 ShotGunBunny
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Hmm, okay, I've always heard that Halo 2 and 3 singleplayer are complete loads of bull. But that the multiplayer makes up for this.

Well then,
A: A game which has mediocre SP isn't exactly what PC gamers are looking for.
B: The PC has had MP similair to Halo for years before the series came out.

The End.

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#21 mfsa
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I don't really see what innovates Crysis from all other shooters. Except the astonishing and beautiful well made graphics this game has or the difficulty set, where you can adjust it in the way you can listen the bad guys speaking korean (quite original, but in the end, useless), I don't recall seeing something really new from this game. Maybe you can help me to see what gives to end-users that it should be bought not because of the graphics.

Mithrandir0x

The nanosuit. I don't know if innovative is honestly an appropriate word, but the nanosuit nevertheless allows for a huge number of playsty'les. You can use stealth to get into an enemy camp unseen, use strength to leap up onto a building then punch your way inside, use speed to tear outside and into the thick of the enemies before they have time to react, and then switch to armour and take them down with one of your customisable weapons.

Compared with most other games where your options would be to shoot them at close range or..... shoot them at long range, Crysis is really something.

Plus, the AI facilitates both stealth gameplay and run n gun gameplay without being particularly oriented towards either. You ever see that before? Games are always one or the other. In Crysis, it's both. I can play a stealth game and the AI reacts as though the game was built as a stealth game, but then when I get spotted (or let myself get spotted), and a crazy firefight breaks out, the AI reacts exactly as I'd want it to. It facilitates both stealthing and great firefights.

As I say, Crysis may not be actually innovative, but it does certainly come with a layer of depth and diversity that almost no other shooter has managed. The nanosuit just allows you to play many different games and take on enemies the way you want. Or not take them on at all.

Not many shooters give the player that level of freedom, as well as faciitating varioussty'les of play. I didn't like FarCry and I've been saying for the last two years that Crysis is just FarCry on steriods, but it's not - it's a deep, rich and dare I even say intelligent shooter, something we so rarely see.

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#22 Darth_Kane
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Why would we want Halo 3 ?

Half the FPSs already released on PC are better than Halo 3

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#23 Lonelynight
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Swing and a miss.

Try Crysis.Mithrandir0x

I don't really see what innovates Crysis from all other shooters. Except the astonishing and beautiful well made graphics this game has or the difficulty set, where you can adjust it in the way you can listen the bad guys speaking korean (quite original, but in the end, useless), I don't recall seeing something really new from this game. Maybe you can help me to see what gives to end-users that it should be bought not because of the graphics.

:| have you played the demo?

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#24 Avenger1324
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Better than any PC game?

You clearly haven't played solitaire!

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#25 starfox15
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Beating a dead horse, but, um, did you notice that the first two came out after they were launched on xbox? Give it some time, we'll see it on PC soon enough. (After Micro$oft stops making money by making it 360 specific... SHHHHH!)

Also, Shooters are the best, and will probably always be the best, on a PC.

Unless the Wii comes out with a BOMBSHELL! :lol:

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#26 i_saw_a_mudcrab
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Joke topic, obviously. Chances are the OP is no longer looking at this, so you can all stop arguing and move along.
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#27 Baron_14
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[QUOTE="Begemott"]I laugh at youForerunner-117

I'm laughing with you bro!:lol:

LOL @ OP dude maybe Halo 3 is one of the best CONSOLE games but don't even try saying that it owns every other PC game out there. Crysis for one, will blow it out of the water.

Now take into consideration OP, i'm not dissing on Halo. I'm a big Halo fan, it has a great story if you read the books and stuff but just don't try and cause fights here. You could've just said "hey let's get Halo 3 for the PC" but the way u said it was just a big mistake.

Im laughing with you guys.

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#28 Baron_14
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Why would we want Halo 3 ?

Half the FPSs already released on PC are better than Halo 3

Darth_Kane

You got that right

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#29 Modbetto
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Yuck!!!
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#30 Moobster
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Played Halo 3 and sold it... linear single player and "noob style" multiplayer. Lacks depth...
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#31 Mithrandir0x
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:| have you played the demo?Lonelynight

Of course, I did. I couldn't say what I said if I didn't -.-

And even after that, I'm not feeling eager to update my equipment only for this game, or even buying the game. I'm not saying that it's a bad game, or it doesn't entertain, but it's far from being a refresh to the standard of shooters in terms of playability. For me, it's only a decent shooter with an impressive and gorgeous engine.

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#32 devious742
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Tell me....have you played S.T.A.L.K.E.R TC????? Thats my fav fps right now...

You are missing out my friend

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#33 Darth_Kane
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Better than any PC game?

You clearly haven't played solitaire!

Avenger1324

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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#34 Mithrandir0x
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Isn't S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Shadow of Chernobil?
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#35 devious742
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Isn't S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Shadow of Chernobil?Mithrandir0x
yep
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#36 devious742
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i just bought halo 2 for pc and my first reaction to the MP when i was playing was "Is the pace supposed to be this slow?" I always thought of halo as being unreal tournament FAST.. the pacing in that game really turn me off..its still good...but to slow...halo 2 is still enjoyable nevertheless...
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#37 mo0ksi
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I could care less about Halo 3. When you hae games like STALKER, Crysis, and even the great Battlefield 2, Halo 3 is the last game on your mind.
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The nanosuit. I don't know if innovative is honestly an appropriate word, but the nanosuit nevertheless allows for a huge number of playsty'les. You can use stealth to get into an enemy camp unseen, use strength to leap up onto a building then punch your way inside, use speed to tear outside and into the thick of the enemies before they have time to react, and then switch to armour and take them down with one of your customisable weapons.

Compared with most other games where your options would be to shoot them at close range or..... shoot them at long range, Crysis is really something.

Plus, the AI facilitates both stealth gameplay and run n gun gameplay without being particularly oriented towards either. You ever see that before? Games are always one or the other. In Crysis, it's both. I can play a stealth game and the AI reacts as though the game was built as a stealth game, but then when I get spotted (or let myself get spotted), and a crazy firefight breaks out, the AI reacts exactly as I'd want it to. It facilitates both stealthing and great firefights.

As I say, Crysis may not be actually innovative, but it does certainly come with a layer of depth and diversity that almost no other shooter has managed. The nanosuit just allows you to play many different games and take on enemies the way you want. Or not take them on at all.

Not many shooters give the player that level of freedom, as well as faciitating varioussty'les of play. I didn't like FarCry and I've been saying for the last two years that Crysis is just FarCry on steriods, but it's not - it's a deep, rich and dare I even say intelligent shooter, something we so rarely see.mfsa

I thought you were joking when you talked about the nanosuit... About the freedom that this game gives, it's a false freedom. You still have to move from point A to point B unleashing destruction to everywhere you go. I don't see any freedom still from moving on another path of the mountain in a stealth way using the optical cammouflage, or going slow enough that the koreans or aliens don't listen you and ambus them, or maybe going straight ahead the bad guys, killing them. The scenario is enormous, but the sense of freedom is the same of the other games.

For me, it's a revamp of the formula of Far Cry (which I don't see bad, it's a entertaining style of game), but it's not possible to say that the changes from one to another are significant enough.

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[QUOTE="Lonelynight"]:| have you played the demo?Mithrandir0x

Of course, I did. I couldn't say what I said if I didn't -.-

And even after that, I'm not feeling eager to update my equipment only for this game, or even buying the game. I'm not saying that it's a bad game, or it doesn't entertain, but it's far from being a refresh to the standard of shooters in terms of playability. For me, it's only a decent shooter with an impressive and gorgeous engine.

And what other FPS do you consider is good and would warrant your buy:roll:

Tell me one other game that allows as much freedom as Crysis be it in how you complete the level or the level itself. The graphics are a plus. The core gameplay itself warrants a AAA IMHO.

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#40 kyrieee
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That's the first level. Go watch the Crysis segment on the 1up show a few weeks back.

Anyway, what does Halo do? In SP, nothing that hasn't been done before. The vehicles are good but that's about it. Crysis may not be a revolution but it genuinely tries to do new things, it tries to evolve the gameplay.

"For me, it's a revamp of the formula of Far Cry (which I don't see bad, it's a entertaining ****of game), but it's not possible to say that the changes from one to another are significant enough."

That cracks me up. Halo 3 is just like Halo 2 which is just like Halo 1 which had some innovation.

And by the way, there's a reason there are more games as straight forward as Halo: they're a heck of a lot easier to do.

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#41 Mithrandir0x
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That cracks me up. Halo 3 is just like Halo 2 which is just like Halo 1 which had some innovation.

And by the way, there's a reason there are more games as straight forward as Halo: they're a heck of a lot easier to do.kyrieee

You're right, Halo 3 doesn't give anything new that Halo 2, or even 1 did have. But I'm not defending Halo 3. I'm speaking about Crysis as it is, not comparing it to another game, as it would not make any sense at all -.- (I care less about the topic maker, it's senseless what he/she is proposing)

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[QUOTE="Mithrandir0x"]Of course, I did. I couldn't say what I said if I didn't -.-

And even after that, I'm not feeling eager to update my equipment only for this game, or even buying the game. I'm not saying that it's a bad game, or it doesn't entertain, but it's far from being a refresh to the standard of shooters in terms of playability. For me, it's only a decent shooter with an impressive and gorgeous engine.

froidnite

And what other FPS do you consider is good and would warrant your buy:roll:

Tell me one other game that allows as much freedom as Crysis be it in how you complete the level or the level itself. The graphics are a plus. The core gameplay itself warrants a AAA IMHO.

Sorry for the double post, I didn't see it before answering to kyrieee. The freedom you're speaking is totally void. Bad guys doesn't change from place, they're there and 100 times later, they will be there, waiting for getting shot at their a**es.

What freedom does this game gives rather than walking, swimming or going from another place? It's not completely linear, I know it, but at the end, you follow a straight path.

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#43 zeus_gb
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Halo 3 will come to PC in a few years after Microsoft have made their money on the 360 version.
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#44 froidnite
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[QUOTE="froidnite"][QUOTE="Mithrandir0x"]Of course, I did. I couldn't say what I said if I didn't -.-

And even after that, I'm not feeling eager to update my equipment only for this game, or even buying the game. I'm not saying that it's a bad game, or it doesn't entertain, but it's far from being a refresh to the standard of shooters in terms of playability. For me, it's only a decent shooter with an impressive and gorgeous engine.

Mithrandir0x

And what other FPS do you consider is good and would warrant your buy:roll:

Tell me one other game that allows as much freedom as Crysis be it in how you complete the level or the level itself. The graphics are a plus. The core gameplay itself warrants a AAA IMHO.

Sorry for the double post, I didn't see it before answering to kyrieee. The freedom you're speaking is totally void. Bad guys doesn't change from place, they're there and 100 times later, they will be there, waiting for getting shot at their a**es.

What freedom does this game gives rather than walking, swimming or going from another place? It's not completely linear, I know it, but at the end, you follow a straight path.

Are you sure you played the game.....you do know that you could complete the entire level without having to kill more than 5 people....right?

And no the enemies aren't aren't always there, if you finish them off silently, they won't call for back-up.

And WTF about the freedom being void. GTA doesn't offer any freedom....all you can do is drive around town and do missions which require you to go to certain specific places.In the en, you are just doing it the way developers planned you to do it.

On the other hand, the sheer number of ways you do things in Crysis means you can come up with something new each time.

And you still haven't answered that question:roll:

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#45 Mithrandir0x
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First, you're still comparing to any other games, while I'm discussing only about Crysis without any comparissons of any type.

Second, I've went through all the demo, when the team join and some aliens apear there and then sadly, the demo ends. Until then, I've explored the islands arounds seeing if I could find anything interesting, killing any korean that shot me, and even killing the boat baddies jumping on the boat.

Third, about that question, depends on what FPS are we talking about. And I'm not going to put any preference, because I don't have it. So I think it's not relevant in my opinion.

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First, you're still comparing to any other games, while I'm discussing only about Crysis without any comparissons of any type.

Second, I've went through all the demo, when the team join and some aliens apear there and then sadly, the demo ends. Until then, I've explored the islands arounds seeing if I could find anything interesting, killing any korean that shot me, and even killing the boat baddies jumping on the boat.

Third, about that question, depends on what FPS are we talking about. And I'm not going to put any preference, because I don't have it. So I think it's not relevant in my opinion.

Mithrandir0x

Its linear because your playing it like a linear game, I played the demo more then 7 times, there are at least 4 different ways that I tried to use to approach a situation

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#47 kirk4ever
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[QUOTE="Forerunner-117"]

[QUOTE="Begemott"]I laugh at youBaron_14

I'm laughing with you bro!:lol:

LOL @ OP dude maybe Halo 3 is one of the best CONSOLE games but don't even try saying that it owns every other PC game out there. Crysis for one, will blow it out of the water.

Now take into consideration OP, i'm not dissing on Halo. I'm a big Halo fan, it has a great story if you read the books and stuff but just don't try and cause fights here. You could've just said "hey let's get Halo 3 for the PC" but the way u said it was just a big mistake.

Im laughing with you guys.

can i join too xD

oohh im a poor pc gamer i want halo 3 instead of cod4.CRYSIS..Unreal tournament III..orange box..TFTII..oh no i dont want these i want halo 3 :P look i played 1-2 on pc and honestly they are meh ..OK..annd iv seen 3 and tried it in a gamestore and the graphics are again meh and man FPS on a Controller makes me sad :(

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First, you're still comparing to any other games, while I'm discussing only about Crysis without any comparissons of any type.

Second, I've went through all the demo, when the team join and some aliens apear there and then sadly, the demo ends. Until then, I've explored the islands arounds seeing if I could find anything interesting, killing any korean that shot me, and even killing the boat baddies jumping on the boat.

Third, about that question, depends on what FPS are we talking about. And I'm not going to put any preference, because I don't have it. So I think it's not relevant in my opinion.

Mithrandir0x
Okay....What game according to you offers real freedom bar RPG's
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No one :3

Eventhough, I'm just exposing my opinion. You shouldn't get so defensive about the game.

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#50 mfsa
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[QUOTE="mfsa"]The nanosuit. I don't know if innovative is honestly an appropriate word, but the nanosuit nevertheless allows for a huge number of playsty'les. You can use stealth to get into an enemy camp unseen, use strength to leap up onto a building then punch your way inside, use speed to tear outside and into the thick of the enemies before they have time to react, and then switch to armour and take them down with one of your customisable weapons.

Compared with most other games where your options would be to shoot them at close range or..... shoot them at long range, Crysis is really something.

Plus, the AI facilitates both stealth gameplay and run n gun gameplay without being particularly oriented towards either. You ever see that before? Games are always one or the other. In Crysis, it's both. I can play a stealth game and the AI reacts as though the game was built as a stealth game, but then when I get spotted (or let myself get spotted), and a crazy firefight breaks out, the AI reacts exactly as I'd want it to. It facilitates both stealthing and great firefights.

As I say, Crysis may not be actually innovative, but it does certainly come with a layer of depth and diversity that almost no other shooter has managed. The nanosuit just allows you to play many different games and take on enemies the way you want. Or not take them on at all.

Not many shooters give the player that level of freedom, as well as faciitating varioussty'les of play. I didn't like FarCry and I've been saying for the last two years that Crysis is just FarCry on steriods, but it's not - it's a deep, rich and dare I even say intelligent shooter, something we so rarely see.Mithrandir0x

I thought you were joking when you talked about the nanosuit... About the freedom that this game gives, it's a false freedom. You still have to move from point A to point B unleashing destruction to everywhere you go. I don't see any freedom still from moving on another path of the mountain in a stealth way using the optical cammouflage, or going slow enough that the koreans or aliens don't listen you and ambus them, or maybe going straight ahead the bad guys, killing them. The scenario is enormous, but the sense of freedom is the same of the other games.

For me, it's a revamp of the formula of Far Cry (which I don't see bad, it's a entertaining style of game), but it's not possible to say that the changes from one to another are significant enough.

I like how you literally ignore my post, how I comment on how the nanosuit allows for diversity of playst'yle and you just focus on the linearity of the environments. Those are two completely different things. Crysis is still A to B, it's still a corridor shooter with a slightly wider corridor and no roof, but that's not really the point. Not my point. My point you happily ignored while blathering on about something else entirely.

Well done. Very well done indeed.

If you wish to reply, read my post again. Actually read it this time. Then write a reply.