(Poll) Does id Software still make good games?

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#1 MastirOfPuppets
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I haven't played Quake Wars, but it looks nice. Been a fan of id since Doom and played every other title except for their latest one cause my video card broke.
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#2 inyourface_12
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yep they make great games an i cant wait for their next one
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#3 Zillaschool
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I am a little disappoined with id soft.
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#4 Rattlesnake_8
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While Quake 3 Arena was fun, i was disapointed in the shift away from a single player campaign and making it primarily multiplayer.. since then ive been even more disapointed.. Doom3.. the atmosphere was lacking and was not scary at all. It was too obvious where a creature would jump out from and i found it to hard to get into the game. Compared to other FPS games at the time, Doom3 doesn't compare.

I used to be a HUGE fan of ID back during the original Doom, Heretic and all the old FPS games.. so many great memories..

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#5 Hewkii
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the last game they actually made was Doom 3, I think...
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#6 madrocketeer
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They're more of a technology developer nowadays. Their games have become either alright (Doom3) or collaborative works with other developers (ETQW, Quake 4). Still, Rage will be the first game to be entirely developed by them since Doom 3, and it's going to be different from anything they've ever done before, so they might yet re-establish themselves as a game developer again.
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#7 TeamR
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ID really hasn't done much in a long time. They used to be pioneers in the FPS genre but as the genre became more advanced their game development skills kinda stayed the same. See doom3...

But they are still a great dev house that focuses more on the technology side of things. Carmack is working on their new engine and it's looking to be killer. Can't wait for that

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#8 Head_Psychosis
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Quake 4 was just a boring, generic fps, like doom III. Sure, i finished it, but i sometimes wonder why. Is Quake wars alot better? Because if it's not, i think i'll give up on ID.
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#9 TeamR
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Quake 4 was just a boring, generic fps, like doom III. Sure, i finished it, but i sometimes wonder why. Is Quake wars alot better? Because if it's not, i think i'll give up on ID.Head_Psychosis

Quake wars isnt quake...People see the quake name and think it's some sort of continuation of the series. It isnt.

It's sort of a sequal to Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory. Enemy territory is it's own series of games, this version just has a quake face on it. And it isnt developed by ID

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#10 shade1978x
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I got a free copy of Quake Wars with my 8800GT but I sold it for $20. The last id game I liked was Quake 3 Arena.
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#11 Head_Psychosis
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[QUOTE="Head_Psychosis"]Quake 4 was just a boring, generic fps, like doom III. Sure, i finished it, but i sometimes wonder why. Is Quake wars alot better? Because if it's not, i think i'll give up on ID.TeamR

Quake wars isnt quake...People see the quake name and think it's some sort of continuation of the series. It isnt.

It's sort of a sequal to Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory. Enemy territory is it's own series of games, this version just has a quake face on it. And it isnt developed by ID

Holy crap, i never noticed that! i knew it wasn't part of the story. Its like Battlfield in the Quake universe, but i didn't realise it wasn't developed by ID.

My apologies. So technically the last thing they did was Q4.

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#12 thusaha
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Doom 3 was a good game.
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[QUOTE="TeamR"]

[QUOTE="Head_Psychosis"]Quake 4 was just a boring, generic fps, like doom III. Sure, i finished it, but i sometimes wonder why. Is Quake wars alot better? Because if it's not, i think i'll give up on ID.Head_Psychosis

Quake wars isnt quake...People see the quake name and think it's some sort of continuation of the series. It isnt.

It's sort of a sequal to Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory. Enemy territory is it's own series of games, this version just has a quake face on it. And it isnt developed by ID

Holy crap, i never noticed that! i knew it wasn't part of the story. Its like Battlfield in the Quake universe, but i didn't realise it wasn't developed by ID.

My apologies. So technically the last thing they did was Q4.

actually raven developed quake 4. the last thing they did was doom3

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[QUOTE="Head_Psychosis"][QUOTE="TeamR"]

[QUOTE="Head_Psychosis"]Quake 4 was just a boring, generic fps, like doom III. Sure, i finished it, but i sometimes wonder why. Is Quake wars alot better? Because if it's not, i think i'll give up on ID.inyourface_12

Quake wars isnt quake...People see the quake name and think it's some sort of continuation of the series. It isnt.

It's sort of a sequal to Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory. Enemy territory is it's own series of games, this version just has a quake face on it. And it isnt developed by ID

Holy crap, i never noticed that! i knew it wasn't part of the story. Its like Battlfield in the Quake universe, but i didn't realise it wasn't developed by ID.

My apologies. So technically the last thing they did was Q4.

actually raven developed quake 4. the last thing they did was doom3

Yup, id hasn't made a game since doom 3. Raven did quake, nerve somehitng did the d3 resurrection of evil, and splash damage developed quake wars. Doom 3 was a great game, although it didnt show off id's full potential. Their new Rage game on their new engine does look awesome though.
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#15 naval
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i have been mostly dissapointed by them recently
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#16 fireandcloud
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i liked doom 3, but it wasn't great. the last game i loved of theirs is quake 2. but rage looks incredible, and they're trying something new, getting out of those dark, dingy hallways and into the open. i think rage might be the game to bring me back to id fanboyism.
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#17 Robnyc22
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Vote No.

They were surpassed a LONG time ago in the gameplay department of the FPS genre....and they are no longer the kings of the Graphics and Engine department, they lost that crown back in 2004.

I mean, are Id Software's games or even engines talked about anymore?....not so much or even at all.

Back in the 90's, when Id Software released a game, you knew you had to have it. Doom, Quake, Quake II, and Quake III pretty much defined the industry for the time, especially in terms of engines. Back then when Id Software released a game, you just knew you had to have it.

Id Software were the king of the heap back in the 90's and even up to 2000....but now they pretty much feel off.

Even the buzz for their games isn't as high as it was before, I mean, have you been hearing much hype for Rage? I haven't.

No surprise, since it didn't look like anything special in the first place, especially since Rage probably won't be appearing till 2009. Already Crysis gives it a run for it's money in the visuals department from what we've seen so far. I mean, when we first caught a glimpse of Id Software Tech 5, it didn't look all that far ahead of UE3 which had already released back in 2006, and it certainly doesn't look better then Crysis which was already released....and Id Software has never been one to deliver deep or innovative gameplay.

Id Software pretty much lost their luster, especially after they started focusing on console hardware as a development foundation......and I have a feeling Epic is going down the same path.

It really looks as if going forward Valve and Crytek are now thing kings of the genre, especially in terms of taking visuals to the next level over the long term.

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#18 fireandcloud
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quake 3 was the first game that id produced that was surpassed by another developer making a game in the same genre (although one could also argue that half-life surpassed quake 2, but it was released a year after quake 2, so it's not a fair comparison), as unreal tournament was released a few months earlier and surpassed quake 3 in every way. ever since, id wasn't quite able to make that genre defining game. doom 3 was supposed to be it, but after games like half-life, deus ex, and nolf, the game seemed dated (though graphically on par). and they haven't released any games since (though quake 4 and quake wars were developed with their supervision). but rage is going to do it, i believe. that engine looks really good; the mod community is going to have a field day with it; and the clips i've seen look extremely promising. something new from id is just what the doctor ordered.
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#19 Forerunner-117
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One word for you: Rage
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#20 Head_Psychosis
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the most addictive game they ever released was Quake I sadly. Quake II i finished, but i couldn't be bothered to do the expansions. I was bored with II. I loved I
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One word for you: RageForerunner-117

the Rage looked awesome, but I stopped banking my trust in stage demos a long time ago. If rage was coming out in 6 months I might give it the benefit of the doubt, but since it's released isn't even tagged for 08 then I really doubt it's going to live up to expectations. 3 years is a long time in the game industry, and by the time ID releases rage all those ideas, and all that tech will be old hat giving rage really nothing to distinguish itself from the rest of the pack.

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#22 fireandcloud
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[QUOTE="Forerunner-117"]One word for you: Ragejrhawk42

the Rage looked awesome, but I stopped banking my trust in stage demos a long time ago. If rage was coming out in 6 months I might give it the benefit of the doubt, but since it's released isn't even tagged for 08 then I really doubt it's going to live up to expectations. 3 years is a long time in the game industry, and by the time ID releases rage all those ideas, and all that tech will be old hat giving rage really nothing to distinguish itself from the rest of the pack.

idk. crysis was hyped for over 3 years, and it hasn't lost its luster. i think rage will bring something new to the table, either graphically or in terms of gameplay. i still have faith in id.

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[QUOTE="jrhawk42"]

[QUOTE="Forerunner-117"]One word for you: Ragefireandcloud

the Rage looked awesome, but I stopped banking my trust in stage demos a long time ago. If rage was coming out in 6 months I might give it the benefit of the doubt, but since it's released isn't even tagged for 08 then I really doubt it's going to live up to expectations. 3 years is a long time in the game industry, and by the time ID releases rage all those ideas, and all that tech will be old hat giving rage really nothing to distinguish itself from the rest of the pack.

idk. crysis was hyped for over 3 years, and it hasn't lost its luster. i think rage will bring something new to the table, either graphically or in terms of gameplay. i still have faith in id.

Yeah I can see both sides of the argument. Although, it is gonna have some post-apocalyptic competition from Fallout 3 and Borderlands ;) *Sigh* Man I love post-apocalyptic stuff so '08 for me is gonna rock :D

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#24 fireandcloud
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[QUOTE="fireandcloud"][QUOTE="jrhawk42"]

[QUOTE="Forerunner-117"]One word for you: RageForerunner-117

the Rage looked awesome, but I stopped banking my trust in stage demos a long time ago. If rage was coming out in 6 months I might give it the benefit of the doubt, but since it's released isn't even tagged for 08 then I really doubt it's going to live up to expectations. 3 years is a long time in the game industry, and by the time ID releases rage all those ideas, and all that tech will be old hat giving rage really nothing to distinguish itself from the rest of the pack.

idk. crysis was hyped for over 3 years, and it hasn't lost its luster. i think rage will bring something new to the table, either graphically or in terms of gameplay. i still have faith in id.

Yeah I can see both sides of the argument. Although, it is gonna have some post-apocalyptic competition from Fallout 3 and Borderlands ;) *Sigh* Man I love post-apocalyptic stuff so '08 for me is gonna rock :D

yes, amen. borderlands looks sweet. that game deserves more hype and loving. and i'm crossing my fingers for fallout 3. hopefully, it'll be faithful to the first 2.

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#25 Ztyza
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Quake Wars is pretty awesome. Probably the best team based FPS out right now.
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[QUOTE="Forerunner-117"][QUOTE="fireandcloud"][QUOTE="jrhawk42"]

[QUOTE="Forerunner-117"]One word for you: Ragefireandcloud

the Rage looked awesome, but I stopped banking my trust in stage demos a long time ago. If rage was coming out in 6 months I might give it the benefit of the doubt, but since it's released isn't even tagged for 08 then I really doubt it's going to live up to expectations. 3 years is a long time in the game industry, and by the time ID releases rage all those ideas, and all that tech will be old hat giving rage really nothing to distinguish itself from the rest of the pack.

idk. crysis was hyped for over 3 years, and it hasn't lost its luster. i think rage will bring something new to the table, either graphically or in terms of gameplay. i still have faith in id.

Yeah I can see both sides of the argument. Although, it is gonna have some post-apocalyptic competition from Fallout 3 and Borderlands ;) *Sigh* Man I love post-apocalyptic stuff so '08 for me is gonna rock :D

yes, amen. borderlands looks sweet. that game deserves more hype and loving. and i'm crossing my fingers for fallout 3. hopefully, it'll be faithful to the first 2.

Wurd! Yeah man Borderlands is up there on my anticipated titles list with Far Cry 2, Left 4 Dead, Fallout 3 and Rage.

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#27 madrocketeer
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I'm wary of Rage. It's quite different from anything id has ever done before. They are obviously trying to re-establish themselves as a game developer with this game, but sometimes deviating from your roots can lead to disastrous results.
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#28 CubePrime_basic
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I really liked Doom 3 with mods and coop. I still voted ''No, Quake III Arena was their last good game'' :/

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#29 Zeliard9
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Id sort of screwed themselves by making Quake 1 so damn good. Specifically, Quakeworld. I don't think there's been a multiplayer game to even match it since it came out.
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#30 _Pedro_
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quake wars isn't from id software...