***POLL*** Fallout 3 vs New Vegas........FIGHT!

Well, I've been wondering for some time now (along with others apparently) which of these 2 games was the better game to buy, if you could only get one.

I hesitated on buying either during the steam sale for this reason.

So, where do you stand?

Gamewise, New Vegas is infinitely superior over Fallout 3. The only thing that I liked more in the third is the DC/50s theme, everything else is equal or greater than it in New Vegas.

New Vegas is better but there are still bugs so Fallout 3.

New Vegas without a doubt. I couldn't stand Oblivion with Guns. Seriously, it's an insult to call that goat a Fallout game.

New Vegas without a doubt. I couldn't stand Oblivion with Guns. Seriously, it's an insult to call that goat a Fallout game.

-wildflower-

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New Vegas without a doubt. I couldn't stand Oblivion with Guns. Seriously, it's an insult to call that goat a Fallout game.

millerlight89

I agree with that too. It's like saying Deus Ex and Unreal are the same because they use the same engine.

New Vegas is much closer to the first two. It's the better game in everyway thinkable.

NV, It follows the two first games, and is better structured, and has better ideas.

Also, I could not play the first game for about 6 months after I bought it, I had 1 measly crash in my 57 hours in NV.

I generally do like FO3, and NV s not without flaws, it is just the better FO game, and the better RPG it seems, since there are not alot of skills that are useless.

I voted New Vegas, but honestly they are both extremely similar and both great games. Fallout 3 has a cheesy main plot, but the overall experience is great, and it has so many awesome stuff you will stumble upon from exploring. New Vegas has this stuff as well, and to be honest it's main plot isn't anything to call home about. Also, I found the environments in Fallout 3 quite a bit more interesting. I loved fighting mutants in the DC rubble, and in the underground. The Enclave base parts were amazing, better than the Vegas Strip imo. New Vegas is more about killing humans and oversized bugs and stuff, and aside from the strip and the few scattered buildings, it's all essentially the same desert landscape.

Your poll is gonna be skewed towards New Vegas, but if you gloss over user reviews I guarantee that skew is going to disappear, because they are essentially the same game. I doubt you would be disappointed with either choice, but if the GOTY edition of FO3 is cheaper and your constraint is budget and not time, I'd say go with that one without hesitation.

but honestly they are both extremely similar and both great games.>True_Sounds

New Vegas is an infinitely better game.

[QUOTE="True_Sounds"] but honestly they are both extremely similar and both great games.>millerlight89

I dont even think that you have to go deep and experimental with its choices to realise how different they are illmatic87

I'll hand it to New Vegas. They did improve upon a lot from Fallout 3 in terms of gameplay and a good amount on story. The casinos in Vegas definitely added a new dimension of world interaction that i don't see that often in the games I play. If there would be any beef that i would hold against New Vegas though is that the endings feel a bit anti-climatic considering how some endings feel like they just cut off on the spot. No doubt the ending to Fallout 3 was lame but at least it felt more complete(though i should emphasis that it was bad).

EDIT: Man do I remember just how bad real time gunplay was in Fallout 3. Seriously, it was practically VATS or bust for me.

Both of them are in my opinion total conversion mods for Oblivion. The feel of these games is far more reminiscent of TES than the real Fallout games. Granted, New Vegas manages in many places to capture the humour and atmosphere of FO1 and FO2 much better than FO3 does.

New Vegas is miles better then Fallout3 in every way except Radio Stations.

Fallout3 I would give a 7/10

New Vegas I would give a 9/10

new Vegas feels like the old Fallout games, Fallout3 doesn't imo.

The Dialogue, questing, gameplay, story and rpg elements are far better in new vegas.

[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="-wildflower-"]

New Vegas without a doubt. I couldn't stand Oblivion with Guns. Seriously, it's an insult to call that goat a Fallout game.

-wildflower-

I agree with that too. It's like saying Deus Ex and Unreal are the same because they use the same engine.

How is New Vegas not 'Oblivion with guns' when the combat is strictly equal to that of Fallout 3?

Obsidian ( Black Isle ) has had one failed launch after another since it actually made new IP's other than the disastrous AP.

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[QUOTE="millerlight89"] It's an even bigger insult when I see peole saying "New Vegas is more of the same."SkyWard20

I agree with that too. It's like saying Deus Ex and Unreal are the same because they use the same engine.

How is New Vegas not 'Oblivion with guns' when the combat is strictly equal to that of Fallout 3?

Obsidian ( Black Isle ) has had one failed launch after another since it actually made new IP's other than the disastrous AP.

[QUOTE="SkyWard20"]

[QUOTE="-wildflower-"]

I agree with that too. It's like saying Deus Ex and Unreal are the same because they use the same engine.

kdawg88

How is New Vegas not 'Oblivion with guns' when the combat is strictly equal to that of Fallout 3?

Obsidian ( Black Isle ) has had one failed launch after another since it actually made new IP's other than the disastrous AP.

They should do, at least, a 2D game. Maybe it's the best ever made....

I can't decide between FO3 and NV. Maybe because of F3's DLCs which are pretty good. But I found NV more involving and you didn't feel alone. I like the survivalist gameplay, makes the whole experience more realistic.

Easily New Vegas. I didn't think that a desert could be so fun and rewarding to explore. The writing and the NPCs were good too. I can't think of very many games where I was genuinely interested in everyone I met. I wanted to know more about them and their story. I did not skip a single conversation and I exhausted all available options in the dialogue menu. Damn good game.

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[QUOTE="millerlight89"] It's an even bigger insult when I see peole saying "New Vegas is more of the same."SkyWard20

I agree with that too. It's like saying Deus Ex and Unreal are the same because they use the same engine.

How is New Vegas not 'Oblivion with guns' when the combat is strictly equal to that of Fallout 3?

Obsidian ( Black Isle ) has had one failed launch after another since it actually made new IP's other than the disastrous AP.

Yes, one games is actually a RPG and the other isn't. It isn't that difficult to understand but, then again, the more you post the more obvious it becomes that you don't know the difference. You have no idea what makes a RPG. Obsidian isn't Black Isle either. Nice try though. There are a people from Black Isle at Obsidian but there are MANY key members who aren't.

"...has had one failed launch after another since it actually made new IP's other than the disastrous AP."

Huh? I have no idea what you are trying to say. Learn to write. What failed launches? What new IPs?

NV despite having more bugs for me tha FO3. The quest's and the story progression are saving the game, it's a way better RPG than FO3.

I found FO3 however a fun game and decent time killer. Point Lookout was great IMO.

FO3 is good no doubt about that, but as I all know, vegas is better - with its dialogues and the sheer amount of effort put into the npc's.

The start of FO3 is imo better than the one you are served in Vegas however, I think the way you start from birth in FO3 is no less than EPIC.

I would like fo4 to be a combination of the two games, with the atmosphere from the world, that we experience in FO3, and with the well thought dialogues from Vegas, YES PLZ!

I personally preferred Fallout 3 to Fallout NV, I felt there was more of a connection with the Vaults in FO3 than there was in FNV. To be honest I don't even know why New Vegas even had the vaults in the game, they just felt tacked on. I also had a problem with NV's story I just found it so difficult to actually give a crap about any of the factions in the game, the way they were squabbling over New Vegas didn't do much for me either.

[QUOTE="SkyWard20"]

[QUOTE="-wildflower-"]

I agree with that too. It's like saying Deus Ex and Unreal are the same because they use the same engine.

-wildflower-

How is New Vegas not 'Oblivion with guns' when the combat is strictly equal to that of Fallout 3?

Obsidian ( Black Isle ) has had one failed launch after another since it actually made new IP's other than the disastrous AP.

Yes, one games is actually a RPG and the other isn't. It isn't that difficult to understand but, then again, the more you post the more obvious it becomes that you don't know the difference. You have no idea what makes a RPG. Obsidian isn't Black Isle either. Nice try though. There are a people from Black Isle at Obsidian but there are MANY key members who aren't.

"...has had one failed launch after another since it actually made new IP's other than the disastrous AP."

Huh? I have no idea what you are trying to say. Learn to write. What failed launches? What new IPs?

I personally preferred Fallout 3 to Fallout NV, I felt there was more of a connection with the Vaults in FO3 than there was in FNV. To be honest I don't even know why New Vegas even had the vaults in the game, they just felt tacked on. I also had a problem with NV's story I just found it so difficult to actually give a crap about any of the factions in the game, the way they were squabbling over New Vegas didn't do much for me either.

charmingcharlie

me too

Fallout New Vegas was way better than Fallout 3.

They use the same engine and the combat is almost the exact same, outside of the fact that Fallout: New Vegas has Iron Sights. But overall Fallout New Vegas improved a lot from Fallout 3. Especially in terms of structure, writing, conversation systems and quest design.

Then again, I regard Obsidian much higher than Bethesda. Outside of the lack of polish in their games I would easily consider them the best mainstream RPG developer.

Fallout New Vegas was way better than Fallout 3.

They use the same engine and the combat is almost the exact same, outside of the fact that Fallout: New Vegas has Iron Sights. But overall Fallout New Vegas improved a lot from Fallout 3. Especially in terms of structure, writing, conversation systems and quest design.

Then again, I regard Obsidian much higher than Bethesda. Outside of the lack of polish in their games I would easily consider them the best mainstream RPG developer.

Maroxad

I agree that their games offer good roleplaying and storytelling... they have Chris Avellone, after all.

I like Bethesda a lot too; I just expect different things from companies like Bethesda, BioWare or Obsidian and I play their games for different reasons.

They both have as many perks as they do faults.

I found fallout 3 better but not much.

After roaming around and playing some crap i started new vegas because apart from some negative sidemarks here and there people think of it as a good game. I must say it's a different feeling and still the same, because it's actually the same game as fallout 3 some things are different. There's a lot more to vegas like companions, you can start immediately in the wasteland without being in the vault first. The feeling of the game is different in a way like you feel society has already build some things up since the nuclear war. In fallout 3 it seems that the war hasn't been as long ago. The storyline of fallout 3: new vegas are more detailed. Like you can learn a lot more about supermutants and how they live among the humans, the non-smoothskins are somewhat more explored too. The ncr are still there and there a lot more new players too the field. There are new animals too allthough the old one are still there. You have a lot more gangs. Things are changed since fallout 3 in new vegas and this is only normal too, things always change.

So it's actually fallout 3 revisited but later in time (in the game) and everything is a lot more in depth. I have played for about 70 hours now and sometimes the game get's somewhat boring but that's only after playing 10 hours straight or maybe some parts in the game. Especially the beginning can be really frustrating because you wan't to get to new vegas and the environment looks like fallout 3 and you want to see new things. You just think when starting you won't see nothing new (because you've played out fallout 3). This is totally not true though. You also can't really manage to fight big monsters (you can barely manage small ones) and if you rush for new vegas you will encouter them. So i rushed for new vegas and i actually got there pretty fast but getting into new vegas is a different story and the settlements around new vegas are pretty boring. I actually quit the game at this point only to continue later on. I quickly realized there's a lot more to new vegas than new vegas.

The fact is fallout new vegas is a great game allthough i haven't finished it yet. I just found fallout 3 to be better because it was more original. When you start new vegas it doesn't feel like a new game. It still doesn't to me it just continues the story. Off course new vegas is better if you don't look at the fact that it's been released 2 years after fallout 3 otherwise it wouldn't be a good sequel.

So comparing the two games doesn't really work here because new vegas feels like a real sequel. It's just more fallout, more in depth gameplay, more in depth storyline but this is only normal. A lot of things didn't have to be designed. A lot of textures, characters, environment could be reused and they just added some . They had a lot more time to work on character development, storyline, rpg elements.

That's the reason why i hesitated to play the game at first , i thought it would be more of the same and i would really have liked that when i was exploring at the end of fallout 3. It was 2 years later now but after starting eventually it got a hold of me again and i'm going to be so pissed off when the game ends because fallout series just rock!

FO:NV, nearly all bugs patched after the latest update, + lot's of cool mods.face_ripper

What kind of bugs remain in the game?

If everyone is bashing Fallout 3 now that New Vegas is out, why did everyone love it (FO3) so much when it first released? I mean, is that just because the critics loved it, or just because nothing better had come along? Adam_the_Nerd

If everyone is bashing Fallout 3 now that New Vegas is out, why did everyone love it (FO3) so much when it first released? I mean, is that just because the critics loved it, or just because nothing better had come along? Adam_the_Nerd

Despite game crippling bugs that prevented me from playing New Vegas for two weeks, I enjoyed it more. I didn't much care for the whole damage/DPS and damage threshold thing, but it wasn't a big deal and did add a bit of strategy to the combat. Fallout 3 was too serious. New Vegas was a lot more darkly humorous.

[QUOTE="Adam_the_Nerd"]If everyone is bashing Fallout 3 now that New Vegas is out, why did everyone love it (FO3) so much when it first released? I mean, is that just because the critics loved it, or just because nothing better had come along? millerlight89

Bethesda made Morrowind, that already endears them to me, but perhaps the Fallout series was not their forte.

New Vegas with a big lead.....

[QUOTE="Adam_the_Nerd"]If everyone is bashing Fallout 3 now that New Vegas is out, why did everyone love it (FO3) so much when it first released? I mean, is that just because the critics loved it, or just because nothing better had come along? guynamedbilly

well, since my Poll is a comparison, maybe he's saying people seem to act like FO3 is crap compared to New Vegas, in other words, something better came along, exploiting Fallout 3's weaknesses.

what provided the better gameplay and story elements? NV no doubt. What provide the better experience? Without a hinch of doubt, FO3, quite simply because you wouldn't have to worry about the mainstory bugging up on you, finding important dialogue sequences wouldn't trigger and ALOT fewer generic bugs.

If everyone is bashing Fallout 3 now that New Vegas is out, why did everyone love it (FO3) so much when it first released? I mean, is that just because the critics loved it, or just because nothing better had come along? Adam_the_Nerd

If I remember correctly, even Fallout 3 still had a noticeable critical player population. However, that critical population expanded over time while the favourable one shrunk.

All I know is that even when I began to play it I didn't think much of the game.

[QUOTE="Adam_the_Nerd"]If everyone is bashing Fallout 3 now that New Vegas is out, why did everyone love it (FO3) so much when it first released? I mean, is that just because the critics loved it, or just because nothing better had come along? Barbariser

If I remember correctly, even Fallout 3 still had a noticeable critical player population. However, that critical population expanded over time while the favourable one shrunk.

All I know is that even when I began to play it I didn't think much of the game.

I guess my perception was skewed because everyone I knew in school at the time was playing it except me. I was playing Oblivion.

[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="Adam_the_Nerd"]If everyone is bashing Fallout 3 now that New Vegas is out, why did everyone love it (FO3) so much when it first released? I mean, is that just because the critics loved it, or just because nothing better had come along? AFBrat77

Bethesda made Morrowind, that already endears them to me, but perhaps the Fallout series was not their forte.

New Vegas with a big lead.....

I know, but I mean, when FO3 came out, it was all everyone could rave about. It seems to be getting a lot of flak lately now that New Vegas has arrived. Why is that? Adam_the_Nerd

I know, but I mean, when FO3 came out, it was all everyone could rave about. It seems to be getting a lot of flak lately now that New Vegas has arrived. Why is that? Adam_the_Nerd