*POLL* Is Mass Effect worth playing?

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#1 BlueBirdTS
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I've been interested in ME since day one, but I still can't decide if it's worth my money or (more importantly) time. I haven't purchased a new game since Sins of a Solar Empire, but with Spore just a few weeks away I could probably hold on a bit longer. Still though, I was hoping to play through at least on RPG before school starts again. Is ME worth playing through in your opinion? Why or why not?
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ME is 110% worth playing. I put about 20 hours in on my first play through (as an evil person), 17 on my second (as a good person), and about 30 more on various playthroughs.

The story is very good.

Voiceacting is top notch

Character interaction is some of the best I have ever seen, though the dialogue options are perhaps too self-evident (responses to NPCs are clearly broken up into Good, Neutral, and Evil respones). This doesnt take too much away.

The action is fun and often very strategic, sort of like Ghost Recon (you order squad members around); there is a cover system, and combat is real time, though you can pause it like in KOTOR.

The ****s are interesting and diverse, even the hybrids go beyond a simple 50:50 split of two ****s (i.e. a soldier-engineer ****has a couple skills not available to either invidividual ****

And, more importantly, it is straight up fun. If you like KoTOR, action-RPGs, good story and NPC interaction...then get ME-PC

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#3 zerosaber456
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ME is 110% worth playing. I put about 20 hours in on my first play through (as an evil person), 17 on my second (as a good person), and about 30 more on various playthroughs.

The story is very good.

Voiceacting is top notch

Character interaction is some of the best I have ever seen, though the dialogue options are perhaps too self-evident (responses to NPCs are clearly broken up into Good, Neutral, and Evil respones). This doesnt take too much away.

The action is fun and often very strategic, sort of like Ghost Recon (you order squad members around); there is a cover system, and combat is real time, though you can pause it like in KOTOR.

The ****s are interesting and diverse, even the hybrids go beyond a simple 50:50 split of two ****s (i.e. a soldier-engineer ****has a couple skills not available to either invidividual ****

And, more importantly, it is straight up fun. If you like KoTOR, action-RPGs, good story and NPC interaction...then get ME-PC

mrbojangles25

What he said. I've spent tons of hours playing this game and still am and I've had this game since day one

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#4 draticon
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If you like final fantasy, kotor games then yes. You spend alot of time runnig round exploring and a little action. Storyline kind of game.

Its worth playing if you havnt got anything to do...its not game breaking though.

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#5 BlueBirdTS
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Whoa! I was not expecting such great feedback! I suppose for $40 I can't go wrong, although I am a bit skeptical about the DRM and various bugs, but I suppose that's a small price to pay for what could be one of the best sci-fi RPGs since KOTOR.
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#6 furionpride
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Great gameplay, great graphics, great story...it's a great game and a MUST own.
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#7 Johnny_Rock
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It's the usual tripe Bioware puts out, only in a prettier package.

Pass.

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#8 mrbojangles25
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It's the usual tripe Bioware puts out, only in a prettier package.

Pass.

Johnny_Rock

how do I respond to this? Bioware is easily one of the best developers out there. I mean, I know everyone is entitled to their opinion and all...but, comeon!

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#9 biggest_loser
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Awesome game, an early contender for GOTY perhaps.
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#10 DanielDust
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It's a very good game, but it's god for one time only. I reinstalled it for the DLC and I'm having problems not getting bored of it in 10 minutes or so.
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#11 TenP
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ME is worth your money and more, best story I've played in ages.

Heck, I beat it 100% the week I got it. (That's right, 3 play throughs. =-O)

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#12 foxhound_fox
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If you have played and enjoyed Knights of the Old Republic you will absolutely adore Mass Effect. One of the "must-play" games of this generation for RPG fans.
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#13 vash47
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It's an OK game, just don't expect heavy role-playing or deep shooting, because the game fails on both aspects.
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#14 foxhound_fox
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It's an OK game, just don't expect heavy role-playing or deep shooting, because the game fails on both aspects.vash47

Not really. It's a good shooter considering the load of crap we get these days and it's role-playing elements are among the best available for modern releases. It may not be good compared to some older RPG's but it among the best we have available to us in modern times. Aside from The Witcher I don't see any RPG released in 2007/2008 that is better.
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#15 7guns
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Definitely one of the best RPGs I have ever played.
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#16 naval
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[QUOTE="vash47"]It's an OK game, just don't expect heavy role-playing or deep shooting, because the game fails on both aspects.foxhound_fox

Not really. It's a good shooter considering the load of crap we get these days and it's role-playing elements are among the best available for modern releases. It may not be good compared to some older RPG's but it among the best we have available to us in modern times. Aside from The Witcher I don't see any RPG released in 2007/2008 that is better.

have you played nwn 2 : motb ? that's many time better in rpg options. ME was nothign realy special as far rpg options are concerned- almost all the dialogues just give you same response except a few here and there, that's all

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#17 naval
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I would say ME is not worth the full price , small main quest, annoying side quest which you are better of as not doing, so I would say get it when the price comes down
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#18 vash47
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[QUOTE="vash47"]It's an OK game, just don't expect heavy role-playing or deep shooting, because the game fails on both aspects.foxhound_fox

Not really. It's a good shooter considering the load of crap we get these days and it's role-playing elements are among the best available for modern releases. It may not be good compared to some older RPG's but it among the best we have available to us in modern times. Aside from The Witcher I don't see any RPG released in 2007/2008 that is better.

Nah, I'm not even comparing to the good oldies, to me, the most important aspect for an RPG are the choices and/or the dialogue. But like naval said most of the answers just led to the same response, I though it was different but when I was on a third playthrough because of reinstalling, etc. Basically all the responses were the same, and the shooting was bad.

I really consider it a mediocre game.

EDIT: I regret what I said about the shooting part, I confused it a little bit, the shooting is fine, but I found other aspects to be really bad, I didn't like at all the was inventory was managed between other things. If there are things remarkable about the game IMO is the voice acting which was excellent, and the graphics that were very good.
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#19 pilouuuu2004
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Short answer: yes!
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#20 lionheart22
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As long as you don't try and complete every side quest (they get repetitive) you'll have alot of fun as the main story is awesome to play through.
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#21 mrbojangles25
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Mass Effect is an action-RPG; for more examples, play Oblivion and Deus Ex

Neverwinter Nights is a DnD-RPG; for more examples, play Neverwinter Nights 1 and Baldurs Gate.

I am tired of folks bashing Mass Effect, Oblivion, and other games in this subgenre for not having "deep RPG" elements like "other RPGs". Theyre action RPG; that means they can be a mix, ranging from 10% RPG and 90% action like with Oblivion, 40% RPG and 60% action in Deus Ex, 60% RPG and 40% action like with Vampire: Bloodlines, and finally 35% RPG and 65% Action like with Mass Effect (imo).

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#22 BlueBirdTS
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Are the bugs in the game that bad? It seems as if EA isn't really supporting the game much anymore, there are still lots of bugs that need to be addressed from what I hear.
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#23 naval
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as far as i am concerned, it was smooth sailing all the way i.e. 0 bugs
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#24 leper-messiahs
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VERY overrated, The witcher is way better, very short, terrible side quests, exploring is pointless and non existent. Still worth the money as it is a decent RPG, but far from Biowares best work.
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#25 thusaha
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Yes.
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#26 osan0
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oh yeah. great game. not baldurs gate good and not quite as good as KOTOR imho but a great game and well worth a play.
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#27 vash47
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VERY overrated, The witcher is way better, very short, terrible side quests, exploring is pointless and non existent. Still worth the money as it is a decent RPG, but far from Biowares best work. leper-messiahs

Exactly.

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#28 Mazoch
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I thought it was a great game. My main issue with the game is that Bioware really have been a one trick pony since KotOR 1. The story feel much like the KotOR's and Jade Empire. Still it's good fun, good story telling and nice way to save the galaxy over the weekend.
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#29 johan1986
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Jeah it is if you can handly the grinding side quests
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#30 RazorGR
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Great game! Definitely worth playing, especially if you are into sci-fi.
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#31 smokeydabear076
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I got really bored of it very fast, but I might give a shot again some day.
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#32 Drazule
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I say yes, but get spore first, then perhaps ME will be cheaper by then
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#33 LILSMUCK
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Yes if you play all the side assignment. As an infiltrator
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#34 foxhound_fox
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As long as you don't try and complete every side quest (they get repetitive) you'll have alot of fun as the main story is awesome to play through.lionheart22

I must be the only person on the planet who enjoys the side quests. Not only did I play through them all (I found some new ones on my second play through) and enjoy them all my first time through on Normal, I am enjoying them on my second time through on Hardcore... and most likely going to enjoy them my third time through on Insanity. And the amazing thing is, I've played pretty much the same character, besides cIass (adept instead of soldier), and still enjoyed it.

At least for my Insanity round I will be playing a completely different character (female, renegade, Engineer). I absolutely love Mass Effect, one of the best games I've played in my life. It can be a very much "love it/hate it" type game but it is still possible I think to see how some people can like it. One thing I really don't understand is why people constantly feel the need to bash it even though it is a solid and quality title... which we don't see very much these days.

Like I always say, just because you don't like something doesn't mean it isn't good (not directed at you but the majority of people who say things are "bad" because they dislike them).
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[QUOTE="lionheart22"]As long as you don't try and complete every side quest (they get repetitive) you'll have alot of fun as the main story is awesome to play through.foxhound_fox

I must be the only person on the planet who enjoys the side quests. Not only did I play through them all (I found some new ones on my second play through) and enjoy them all my first time through on Normal, I am enjoying them on my second time through on Hardcore... and most likely going to enjoy them my third time through on Insanity. And the amazing thing is, I've played pretty much the same character, besides cIass (adept instead of soldier), and still enjoyed it.

At least for my Insanity round I will be playing a completely different character (female, renegade, Engineer). I absolutely love Mass Effect, one of the best games I've played in my life. It can be a very much "love it/hate it" type game but it is still possible I think to see how some people can like it. One thing I really don't understand is why people constantly feel the need to bash it even though it is a solid and quality title... which we don't see very much these days.

Like I always say, just because you don't like something doesn't mean it isn't good (not directed at you but the majority of people who say things are "bad" because they dislike them).

Most definitely. I think you could make a valid case for either side; while some may dislike it, I think it's silly to call the game "bad". Personally, it does enough right to warrant being called "good" but there's just too much holding it back from being "great". Definitely worth a playthrough (or three) though.
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#36 leper-messiahs
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Yes if you play all the side assignment. As an infiltrator LILSMUCK

Infiltrator = best class IMO.

Yes, the game is far from bad, very good even, the issue is it was billed as a masterpiece, best RPG in years, bull, it was Biowares worst, only made people realise how good The Witcher really is. Still a good game, but a lot of wasted potential.

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There are some very impressive aspects of Mass Effect, and some things that could have been done better. I'm playing through the second time now.

First off, dialogue, great voice acting, and a decent choice of dialogue options. Like previously stated, it's all prety obvious, good, evil, neutral, more in depth, or to the point, charm or intimidate, not necessarily a bad thing but it could've had a bit more potential. Aside from what kind of choices you have, characters have a lot to say, and interaction in dialogue is very genuine.

Graphics, it's Unreal Engine 3, so it looks good, especially if you can afford to apply some antialiasing. Character models look good human or alien, and faces are realistic, good lighting effects etc... The levels are very atmospheric. I recommend you turn "film grain" off in the options.

Audio, pretty good audio, from a dialogue point of view it's superb, background music and and sound effects are great but not amazing, it is noticabley better during cutscenes, where it has the quality of watching a movie. Overall the audio package does not leave you wanting.

Gameplay, the game has a good balance between dialogue and story progression and action sequences and having to battle through lots of enemies. Squad commands work decently, but I did find it hard to get my squadmates to fight from cover sometimes, otherwise they are pretty useful. The different weapons all have their benefits and downsides so I found myself choosing depending on the situation. You will collect a lot of items in this game, most of which you will sell or turn into what is called "Omni-Gel", there is a good amount of weapons mods, armor mods as well as different weapons and armor. At first it all seemed a little overwhelming collecting so much of it and knowing what to use, but after messing with it a bit you find what suits you and you throw away the rest basically. Story related missions are usually a bit more interesting, the side missions weren't too exciting, but you do get to check out more planets and do a lot of driving, which is pretty cool. The Mako (the APC you get to drive around) did tend to oversteer pretty badly, but I think they fixed that with the patch, because now it seems easier to steer. On a frustrating note, the Mako's guns can only fire at targets level with it or above it, making fighting targets with it from higher ground impossible, which is very unfortunate, and sometimes it makes it hard to hit targets in front of you. It's a bit of a hassle, but it doesn't impair your ability to progress with the mission.

Universe, there is a lot of detail in the universe, to the aliens and the backround of their species, to the history between them, it's astonishing how much is presented in game and how much more is presented in the "Codex", an encylopedia where you can get more in depth information. This makes it all the more convincing experience. The story and production value of this game are top notch, and playing through was a rewarding experience and I recommend it, even if you just play through the story.

Bugs/Stability/Performance, under XP home with an E6700 2GB RAM and a Radeon X1900XT I maxed the game at 1680x1050 with no AA and 16x AF. There was a bug with the depth of field effect on my card, in the forum it only seemed to be effecting the X1k series of cards and lower. I had to turn it off by editing the config file (You also have to edit them to enable 16x AF by the way). There was a bit of sound clipping on my XP setup using an HT Omega Claro plus+ soundcard, not sure if it was just my card or the game. Other than that on my first play through it only crashed twice on me saying "Mass Effect has stopped respoding", so for me it was very playable experience.

On my new Vista 64-bit comp, Q9300, 4GB DDR3 RAM, and 2 HD 4870s in Crossfire, the game is working flawlessly. Maxed out with 8x AA and 16x AF at 1920x1200, absolutely no audio clipping (On an HT Omega Claro plus+ as well), and depth of field working (and the game looks great with it on). The only graphics setting I turned off was "Film Grain", which is more a preference than something that makes it look better. Also on my new computer I've installed the new Patch and downloadable Expansion Pack, Bring Down the Sky, perhaps that helped the stability some. The only crashes I've experienced were with my ATI drivers, HD 4870 Crossfire is fairly buggy still, not a flaw in the game though.

As for DRM, it requires that your liscense be validated over the internet when you launch the game for the first time. After that you no longer have to validate your liscense. The game can be played on without the disk in the drive. You are allowed installs on 3 unique validated machines. I'm not sure if uninstalling on one machine reimburses you for one more validation. If you need to go over the limit (system crashes etc...) you have to contact EA support to get them to credit your liscence key more validations on an individual basis.

This will eventually be removed though, this is what happened to Bioshock, it was in place while the game was stil fresh and just pretty recently they took it off.

EDIT: Thanks for reading if you read all of it, I know it's a lot, but I don't like to leave anything out, hope it helps you in your decision.

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#38 Treflis
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I fell in love with the game after the intro, it only grew once I could run around and talk to people and shoot baddies.

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#39 BlueBirdTS
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Marfoo: Wow, that was a fantastic overview. You've convinced me to try out the game. Thanks for taking the time and effort to write all that out! :)

Thanks to everyone for your feedback! I realize that although ME isn't perfect, it's still a game worth playing through. I just hope I can get through it before August 25th when I start school.

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#40 Marfoo
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Glad I could help, of course there is a lot more that I couldn't have fit it without writing a novel, but it is a good game. As for school, you and me both, I move into my dorm on 22nd and start the 25th as well.

Let me know if you've got anymore questions.

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#41 deactivated-61d84d87dcc8a
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but I suppose that's a small price to pay for what could be one of the best sci-fi RPGs since KOTORBlueBirdTS

It IS the best sci fi RPG since KOTOR, although KOTOR was more "revolutionary" so to speak.

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#42 Johnny_Rock
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[QUOTE="Johnny_Rock"]

It's the usual tripe Bioware puts out, only in a prettier package.

Pass.

mrbojangles25

how do I respond to this? Bioware is easily one of the best developers out there. I mean, I know everyone is entitled to their opinion and all...but, comeon!

I personally don't like a single game they've made since the Baldur's gate / Icewind Dale series....

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#43 teardropmina
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[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"][QUOTE="Johnny_Rock"]

It's the usual tripe Bioware puts out, only in a prettier package.

Pass.

Johnny_Rock

how do I respond to this? Bioware is easily one of the best developers out there. I mean, I know everyone is entitled to their opinion and all...but, comeon!

I personally don't like a single game they've made since the Baldur's gate / Icewind Dale series....

don't give Bioware too much credit there; they made CRPG masterpieces in BG series, and a great engine in Infinity. original NWN's toolset makes many RPGers go nutz...that's it.

Icewind dale is an Infinity game, but the credit goes to Black Isle, well, the dev. of Planescape Torment and Fallouts.

Bioware's PC/Console RPGs have been decent, but not great, and I do see a decline in the role-playing department from KotOR to Jade Empire, and then to ME.

and do need to QFT (in fragment) even I mostly disagree with what mrbojanles25 has been saying: "...everyone is entitled to [his/her] opinion..."