Poll: Will you buy Civ 5 even though it requires Steam?

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#51 biggest_loser
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[QUOTE="biggest_loser"]And to Chili: You don't have a Steam account yet? No orange box yet or anythin? You should make it like your main game account in priority above GFWL etc. A lot of games use it. The way they've managed friends and achievements is great and its very easy to use. Its just an account. It won't take long to make, its free etc. ChiliDragon
No, I don't have a Steam account because I have absolutely no need for one. That's why this bothers me. If I saw any other practical advantage to having one, I wouldn't mind being forced to create an account, but I'll probably never use it for anything other than Civ 5. I don't consider "the way they manage friends and achievements" a good reason to get one since I don't care for either of those.

Is it that big a deal? You just click the game icon as usual and it signs you into Steam automatically and you're in the game.

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#52 ChiliDragon
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[QUOTE="ChiliDragon"][QUOTE="biggest_loser"]And to Chili: You don't have a Steam account yet? No orange box yet or anythin? You should make it like your main game account in priority above GFWL etc. A lot of games use it. The way they've managed friends and achievements is great and its very easy to use. Its just an account. It won't take long to make, its free etc. biggest_loser
No, I don't have a Steam account because I have absolutely no need for one. That's why this bothers me. If I saw any other practical advantage to having one, I wouldn't mind being forced to create an account, but I'll probably never use it for anything other than Civ 5. I don't consider "the way they manage friends and achievements" a good reason to get one since I don't care for either of those.

Is it that big a deal? You just click the game icon as usual and it signs you into Steam and you're in the game.

It's an annoyance. I don't need yet another user name and password to keep track of in order to play a game and I don't want one. The fact I wasn't forced to join a "growing online community" was one of the best things about playing on the PC, as compared to on console.So yes, I think it's a big deal that no matter where I seem to go to play these days I end up having to register for something before I can install and play. I liked the fact that there was a freedom of choice when it came to online communities required for gaming... apparently not anymore. That's why it's irritating me.
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#53 biggest_loser
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You only have to put the password and user name in once because it can sign you in automatically. So once you've done that its just like starting a game as normal. Also, its not just registering you for the sake of it because you have the online store there as well with the frequent sales. It is also handy that Steam updates games for you too. So you don't have to go looking for the right patch etc.
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#54 ChiliDragon
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You only have to put the password and user name in once because it can sign you in automatically. So once you've done that its just like starting a game as normal. Also, its not just registering you for the sake of it because you have the online store there as well with the frequent sales. It is also handy that Steam updates games for you too. So you don't have to go looking for the right patch etc. biggest_loser
No, there's nothing sinister or evil about Steam, it's just another online service. It's just that if I don't have it by now it's because there's absolutely nothing necessary or useful about it either, at least not for me. And signing up for a service I don't want or need isn't something I like being forced to do, no matter what that service is. "It updates automatically so you don't have to" is a very bad argument for someone who routinely installs mods on all their games anyway. If I wanted auto-updates that took away my control over what's installed, I'd be on my PS3. :P
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#55 -Origin-
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I've never tried any of the civ games to be honest, so I never really had any intentions to purchase this in the first place. Sorry.

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#56 biggest_loser
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[QUOTE="biggest_loser"]You only have to put the password and user name in once because it can sign you in automatically. So once you've done that its just like starting a game as normal. Also, its not just registering you for the sake of it because you have the online store there as well with the frequent sales. It is also handy that Steam updates games for you too. So you don't have to go looking for the right patch etc. ChiliDragon
No, there's nothing sinister or evil about Steam, it's just another online service. It's just that if I don't have it by now it's because there's absolutely nothing necessary or useful about it either, at least not for me. And signing up for a service I don't want or need isn't something I like being forced to do, no matter what that service is. "It updates automatically so you don't have to" is a very bad argument for someone who routinely installs mods on all their games anyway. If I wanted auto-updates that took away my control over what's installed, I'd be on my PS3. :P

You don't think the online store where you can purchase games is useful? What sort of control do you need for patches? What does that have to do with mods either? Half-Life is on Steam obviously and has a huge modding community. Its not affected by Steam.
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#57 ChiliDragon
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You don't think the online store where you can purchase games is useful? What sort of control do you need for patches? What does that have to do with mods either? Half-Life is on Steam obviously and has a huge modding community. Its not affected by Steam. biggest_loser
I'm only trying to explain that all the things that you think are so great with Steam, that makes it a good option for you, are things that I really don't care about. Nothing more. *shrug* I hardly ever buy games online anyway... the only reason I get them from GOG when I do is because they fix the compatibility. I realize that signing up won't make the game unplayable and won't interfere with my gaming in any other way. I just don't see myself ever using it, and I'd rather not have to bother with it.
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#58 shaneras
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Yes! Steam is awesome, and Civilization is amazing. And I don't really understand the Steam hate...

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#59 ChiliDragon
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Yes! Steam is awesome, and Civilization is amazing. And I don't really understand the Steam hate...

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I don't hate it. I just don't see the point :P
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#60 DaRockWilder
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Sure, i always use steam anyway. :)
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#61 Richyd13
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So let me just get one thing straight.

If I buy 1 copy of Civ 5 can my brother and I play LAN matches?

If that is the case, then requiring steam is no issue

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#62 Doom_HellKnight
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I never had any intention of buying it, but Steam is an amazing service.
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#63 LongZhiZi
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[QUOTE="LongZhiZi"] I'm not 100% anti-Steam, all the time. I have bought (oops- I should say 'subscribed,' right?)4th3ist

Apparently no one told you steam games have offline mode, and the ability to make hard copies of you're software to a disc. Besides, the EULA is no different in you're vendor copy then my digital distribution copy of a game. You're still just paying for the rights use the software, there is never any ownership. Nice troll though.

Apparently you can't read. You do not even purchase a license on Steam. You "subscribe" to a channel. Steam/Valve purchases the license on your behalf. If you ever disagree with the Steam ToU (nothing to do with the game), you lose your game immediately. You never owned the license, so you can't demand access to it. No trolling here- simple facts. If you don't like it, then you can ignore me and continue to live in fantasy land.
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#64 V4LENT1NE
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If it uses Steamworks for the online, I will be happy.

Steam isn't nearly as bad as people try ot make it out to be. There is a very small, yet vocal community of active Steam haters.

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Its annoying when your game crashes because of an error through Steam, its happened for me on Vista quite a lot on tons of different hardware. I have had the HL2.exe has stopped working error on numerous games purchased through Steam, and I have had more crashes with games though Steam then all my 4 years playing games, my games that dont use Steam havent crashed in so damn long I cant even remember.
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#65 morrowindnic
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[QUOTE="biggest_loser"]You only have to put the password and user name in once because it can sign you in automatically. So once you've done that its just like starting a game as normal. Also, its not just registering you for the sake of it because you have the online store there as well with the frequent sales. It is also handy that Steam updates games for you too. So you don't have to go looking for the right patch etc. ChiliDragon
No, there's nothing sinister or evil about Steam, it's just another online service. It's just that if I don't have it by now it's because there's absolutely nothing necessary or useful about it either, at least not for me. And signing up for a service I don't want or need isn't something I like being forced to do, no matter what that service is. "It updates automatically so you don't have to" is a very bad argument for someone who routinely installs mods on all their games anyway. If I wanted auto-updates that took away my control over what's installed, I'd be on my PS3. :P

You can turn off auto-updates.

Steam has amazing sales.

The games work with mods.

Ahievements.

A social network.

Easy way to buy games.

No-CD needed for the games.

The list goes on and on. Sure you can be fine with gaming on PCs without steam. But you would be missing out on some great deals, and great Valve games.

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#66 k0r3aN_pR1d3
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Video game integration with Steam is a plus in my book. Easily able to access friends, settings, Steam cloud, web browser, direct game launching, able to integrate non steam games with steam, detailed statistics, a company who actually cares about you, etc etc
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#67 deactivated-64ba3ebd35404
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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

If it uses Steamworks for the online, I will be happy.

Steam isn't nearly as bad as people try ot make it out to be. There is a very small, yet vocal community of active Steam haters.

V4LENT1NE
Its annoying when your game crashes because of an error through Steam, its happened for me on Vista quite a lot on tons of different hardware. I have had the HL2.exe has stopped working error on numerous games purchased through Steam, and I have had more crashes with games though Steam then all my 4 years playing games, my games that dont use Steam havent crashed in so damn long I cant even remember.

Steam doesn't USE HL2.exe. All Source-engine games do though. That is an issue with Source, not Steam.
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#68 V4LENT1NE
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[QUOTE="V4LENT1NE"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]

If it uses Steamworks for the online, I will be happy.

Steam isn't nearly as bad as people try ot make it out to be. There is a very small, yet vocal community of active Steam haters.

kieranb2000
Its annoying when your game crashes because of an error through Steam, its happened for me on Vista quite a lot on tons of different hardware. I have had the HL2.exe has stopped working error on numerous games purchased through Steam, and I have had more crashes with games though Steam then all my 4 years playing games, my games that dont use Steam havent crashed in so damn long I cant even remember.

Steam doesn't USE HL2.exe. All Source-engine games do though. That is an issue with Source, not Steam.

I got HL2.exe errors with Empire Total War.. :S
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#69 k0r3aN_pR1d3
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[QUOTE="V4LENT1NE"][QUOTE="kieranb2000"][QUOTE="V4LENT1NE"] Its annoying when your game crashes because of an error through Steam, its happened for me on Vista quite a lot on tons of different hardware. I have had the HL2.exe has stopped working error on numerous games purchased through Steam, and I have had more crashes with games though Steam then all my 4 years playing games, my games that dont use Steam havent crashed in so damn long I cant even remember.

Steam doesn't USE HL2.exe. All Source-engine games do though. That is an issue with Source, not Steam.

I got HL2.exe errors with Empire Total War.. :S

Yeah, but that's Empire Total War. even in optimal conditions it crashes for mysterious reasons...
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#70 bonafidetk
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So let me just get one thing straight.

If I buy 1 copy of Civ 5 can my brother and I play LAN matches?

If that is the case, then requiring steam is no issue

Richyd13
You will need 2 copies to play lan matches.
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#71 Richyd13
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Thats what I thought, and thats why people don't like steam

ruins LAN parties

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#72 jedikevin2
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Steam doesn't ruin lan parties AT aLL. Games that just require steam can easy work in offline. In essence the member who stated he wants to play lan with his brother would just need to buy 2 games which is essence is what is always suppose to be done. I mean the only games outside of stardock games and the first starcraft all required multiple games for lan. So confused where you going with Richyd13 for steam detroying lan parties.
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#73 Richyd13
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well right now with civ 3/civ 4 when my brother cousin and i want to play together we only need 1 game.

Now when we want to play civ 5 we'll each need to buy a copy. Which is ridiculous to spend $150 to play a game together when we used to only have to spend $50

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#74 _Pedro_
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well right now with civ 3/civ 4 when my brother cousin and i want to play together we only need 1 game.

Now when we want to play civ 5 we'll each need to buy a copy. Which is ridiculous to spend $150 to play a game together when we used to only have to spend $50

Richyd13

Isn't there a loophole? There must be a way to both play the same game (on the same account) as long as they don't connect to the internet. You know I'm actually going to give that a try.

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#75 jedikevin2
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well right now with civ 3/civ 4 when my brother cousin and i want to play together we only need 1 game.

Now when we want to play civ 5 we'll each need to buy a copy. Which is ridiculous to spend $150 to play a game together when we used to only have to spend $50

Richyd13
But that has nothing to do with steam as it did with what the developer wanted people to have. Your trash talking the steam service because of what the developer wanted to do with the game this time around. The developer wants everyone to have the game... Not a steam problem. Your complaint should be toward the developer on now having options for ways for everyone to play.
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#76 Nohtnym
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Civ5 requires steam? Well this sucks. I prefer not to lock my games on steam, only if cheap weekend deal.

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#77 RichardStallman
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So let me just get one thing straight.

If I buy 1 copy of Civ 5 can my brother and I play LAN matches?

If that is the case, then requiring steam is no issue

Richyd13
No, you'll need 2 copies.
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#78 Drazule
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I don't intend ob buying it but I wouldn't mind it being on Steam.

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#79 True_Sounds
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[QUOTE="ChiliDragon"][QUOTE="biggest_loser"]And to Chili: You don't have a Steam account yet? No orange box yet or anythin? You should make it like your main game account in priority above GFWL etc. A lot of games use it. The way they've managed friends and achievements is great and its very easy to use. Its just an account. It won't take long to make, its free etc. biggest_loser

No, I don't have a Steam account because I have absolutely no need for one. That's why this bothers me. If I saw any other practical advantage to having one, I wouldn't mind being forced to create an account, but I'll probably never use it for anything other than Civ 5. I don't consider "the way they manage friends and achievements" a good reason to get one since I don't care for either of those.

Is it that big a deal? You just click the game icon as usual and it signs you into Steam automatically and you're in the game.

It's a big deal when you always invite me to play L4D2, when I don't even own that game :P I think new steam fixed that issue tho. If a game is Steam exclusive, and there's a way to play it without using steam, I wouldn't be against not using Steam. Achievements are lame, and asides from multiplayer, there is no point in using steam. I'd be fine if steam didnt' exist, and was happy with how Half Life and CS ran before Steam was created. That's what Xfire is for; launching all your games for you.

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#80 BrickMcStick
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I have learned to love Steam over the years, don't ask me why because I can go on and on about it. So Steam will not stop me from buying any game, although I haven't decided if I wan't Civ 5 yet.

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#81 Phoenix534
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Of course. I love Steam.

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#82 chrisrooR
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Yea sure, steam is fine with me.
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#83 wizdom
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Yes, it really doesn't bother me at all.
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#84 Xaviersx
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No, I will not buy Civ 5 during the foreseeable future due to the Steam requirements. I have nothing particular against Steam, and I've bought Civ 3 and 4 (still playing 4 weekly), but I don't like tieing my disk installs to required internet connections - one or the other, not both. It's not the worse thing I've seen or heard of concerning PC gaming, but I don't see myself changing, and many don't see the industry changing - which equals, my money goes someplace else - fine for either side. Enjoy.

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#85 Gladestone1
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Give me a break..Steam is awesome..Oh wow you have to connect to the net once..That is so much trouble for most of you..Your online already..Its not that big of a deal..Steam is the best thing to hit the pc in years..Its the only service ill use for my pc games now..Using no disk all the time is perfect for myself..Im an old school pc gamer also..Took awhile for me to break an use steam..Once ive done that it was all down hill from there..Ill buy a game a month even games i own on disk..Its a great library to have..No more searching through binders or game disks to play..Must have over 20 games now from steam alone..