*Poll* Will You Buy Mass Effect?

i dont care about secuROM but i do not wish to spend more money on a game i already have, but id like the better experience.

those load times and texture pop ins ruined it for me.

so im split.

[QUOTE="RobertBowen"]

Absolutely NOT.

You all know my reasons.

Jd1680a

Why are you blaming SecurRom? Its the people who are pirating games you should really put the blame. Imagine if everyone on this planet were honest and bought their games instead of stealing them. There would be no need to make anti pirating software.

And this is going to help combat piracy, how exactly?

They'll get no money from me with such "protection" schemes. But maybe this week EA will make another change to their policies, so who knows?

Btw, russian version of Mass Effect won't have any DRM whatsoever. It will have traditional disc protection (most probably StarForce), but no activation and no install limit, and it's 3 times cheaper ;)

However, I'll stick with english version because of the voice acting, whitch is most likely gonna be killed by localization. But for non-english speaking people it's a definite must-buy :)

I lot of people whinged about StarForce but I never had any problems with it. bogaty

[QUOTE="Krall"]

That's not the case, 90% of the people you know isn't going to bother trying to copy a game. 8% of the people you know is going to try and copy a game and most likely will fail. The final 2% who is going to scour the internet for ways to get around from paying $49 will succeed. Game developers are targeting those 98% with copy protection; the other 2% is a lost cause.

RobertBowen

No the point is that copy protection is designed to keep honest people honest. If you make something hard enough to steal the avg person is not even going to bother with trying to get something free. The world is full of countless examples of this.

What's the point in trying to protect yourself from the 8%? Those people are hardcore and take it as a challenge to get around something.

Fact of the matter is there are not stats to support either side of this argument. With my examples though you can put them into play in real life. You prolly know people in your life who fit the descriptions I set.

[QUOTE="Krall"]
It's like PC Hardware, it's something like 2-8% of total sales that go to high-end CPUs and GPUs. People always assume everyone is cutting edge with their hardware.

RobertBowen

I haven't looked at those stats latley so I can't comment.

No the point is that copy protection is designed to keep honest people honest. If you make something hard enough to steal the avg person is not even going to bother with trying to get something free. The world is full of countless examples of this.

What's the point in trying to protect yourself from the 8%? Those people are hardcore and take it as a challenge to get around something.

Fact of the matter is there are not stats to support either side of this argument. With my examples though you can put them into play in real life. You prolly know people in your life who fit the descriptions I set.

Krall

Don't get me wrong, I understand and agree with the original principle behind copy protection, and in the past I am sure it went some way to preventing 'casual' copying and sharing of disks among friends. CD Keys also provide a somewhat adequate barrier in this regard.

The problem, though, is that people no longer have to copy a disk in order to obtain the content. While there may be some people out there who are ignorant of warez sites and torrents, or who may not have internet access to enable them to connect with such sites, I would imagine the majority of gamers are aware of them and can get access to them.

My point is that it is even less likely that someone would bother burning a disk to make a copy to share, when it is just a click away and costs no physical resources. Also, if you have no viable internet connection yourself, but know someone who does and who is willing to burn you a disk, that also bypasses the copy protection system. It is outmoded and ineffectual due to the prevalence and accessibility of the internet.

This is the fundamental reason why disk copy protection systems have failed, and is also the reason why DRM is being pushed more aggressively, to the detriment of the end consumer.

Meh, online activation doesn't bother me at all. I don't understand why people are making such a big fuss over it. I had absolutely ZERO problems installing and playing Bioshock, and I have no doubt in my mind that it will be the same case with Mass Effect.Rottenberry

i had a hell of a time with bioshock

One day when i decided it would be cool tohave my internet shut down for a few days so i can pay for some food, soo i decide to pass the time, ill get a great single player game.. As i pace back and forth down the PC games section at walmart looking for the perfect single player game for $30. After about 10 minutes, i settle on a game i dont have yet.. Bioshock. I get home, boot it up, wit through a 30 minute install then i get this nice little box that says "CANT SEE INTERWEBZ LUL!" /facepalm.

I just hope they make it clearly on the box "NEED TEH INTERWEBZ TO PLEH"

Probably, although I was thinking of getting it from Direct2Drive, since they are offering $10 if you preorder. So I'd only have to pay $39 instead of paying $57 for retail.dahwnpapaya

$57? you can get it at amazon for $39.99 if you pre-order. free shipping too. assuming you live in the u.s., that is...

[QUOTE="dahwnpapaya"]Probably, although I was thinking of getting it from Direct2Drive, since they are offering $10 if you preorder. So I'd only have to pay $39 instead of paying $57 for retail.fireandcloud

$57? you can get it at amazon for $39.99 if you pre-order. free shipping too. assuming you live in the u.s., that is...

I live in Hawaii, for some reason, games cost more here than the mainland. So, no free shipping for me, and I'm not sure what the shipping rates from amazon are. Some places are ridiculous when it comes to shipping items here.

[QUOTE="fireandcloud"]

[QUOTE="dahwnpapaya"]Probably, although I was thinking of getting it from Direct2Drive, since they are offering $10 if you preorder. So I'd only have to pay $39 instead of paying $57 for retail.dahwnpapaya

$57? you can get it at amazon for $39.99 if you pre-order. free shipping too. assuming you live in the u.s., that is...

I live in Hawaii, for some reason, games cost more here than the mainland. So, no free shipping for me, and I'm not sure what the shipping rates from amazon are. Some places are ridiculous when it comes to shipping items here.

Yeah, but you live in Hawaii so it is only fair that the rest of us get some kind of price break on things and you have to pay a little more but have the benefit of living in a tropical paradise.

Meh, online activation doesn't bother me at all. I don't understand why people are making such a big fuss over it. I had absolutely ZERO problems installing and playing Bioshock, and I have no doubt in my mind that it will be the same case with Mass Effect.Rottenberry

By all means, you can like the DRM, you don't need to share in the "big fuss", everyone has their own gaming priorities and opinions.

However, it's hard to imagine someone is clueless about where the "big fuss" is coming from.

At this moment, it's the case where Mass Effect will limit you to 3 installs/activations, there are no activation revokes or returns (this isn't BioShock). It's 3, lifetime per copy of Mass Effect. If you exceed your activations, you can plead your case to customer support for another one -- beyond that inconvenience in itself, there's no guarantee you will get more, each request is evaluated on a case-by-case basis, the conditions for receiving a positive result are unspecified (i.e. there's no way of knowing in advance).

If you are the type of gamer that simply plays a game once, doesn't upgrade frequently or build new machines often, aren't really concerned about playing ME many times over at your discretion into the future, etc then this DRM shouldn't affect you. However, it would seem only obvious that such as description is not accurate for all gamers though.

...and thus there would seem to be obvious reasons why some gamers are "making a big fuss".

I already own the 360 version so I don't really care about it. A friend of mine wanted ME but isn't going to buy it now because of the copy protection.

I don't like the protection either but I do want Spore really bad so we'll see how it goes.

[QUOTE="dahwnpapaya"][QUOTE="fireandcloud"]

[QUOTE="dahwnpapaya"]Probably, although I was thinking of getting it from Direct2Drive, since they are offering $10 if you preorder. So I'd only have to pay $39 instead of paying $57 for retail.Gooeykat

$57? you can get it at amazon for $39.99 if you pre-order. free shipping too. assuming you live in the u.s., that is...

I live in Hawaii, for some reason, games cost more here than the mainland. So, no free shipping for me, and I'm not sure what the shipping rates from amazon are. Some places are ridiculous when it comes to shipping items here.

Yeah, but you live in Hawaii so it is only fair that the rest of us get some kind of price break on things and you have to pay a little more but have the benefit of living in a tropical paradise.

Meh, for someone who was born and raised here, it's just another place to live, although I wouldn't want to live anywhere else. I dont really mind paying the extra money for games unless I can get it cheaper somewhere else.