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#1 Morrinator
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Apparently Zenimax and Bethesda have lost confidence in ID's project management. Grain of salt fellas as this was just released.

Perhaps this will get Carmacks head out of his butt... maybe.

http://kotaku.com/5851953/doom-4-indefinitely-postponed-following-rages-disappointing-launch

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#2 ChubbyGuy40
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Not confirmed...yet. Hopefully we'll get more clarification.

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#3 Phoenix534
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If this turns out to be true then I was completely right about what would happen when id got bought out.

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#4 Silicel1
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I am not going to read what you wrote unless you change the font size and color of your text. Also why would anyone care about Doom 4 after what they did with Rage.

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#5 yonyz
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What did they do with Rage?
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#6 deactivated-5ee322a396e26
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What did they do with Rage?yonyz
taylored to consoles instead of the PC

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#7 Silicel1
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What did they do with Rage?yonyz
It ran crap at launch and even after all the fixes it is still running crap well not as super bad as before but still. All the BS id dished out wow....
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[QUOTE="yonyz"]What did they do with Rage?Silicel1
It ran crap at launch and even after all the fixes it is still running crap well not as super bad as before but still. All the BS id dished out wow....

Rage was fun. Worked flawlessly on our PCs at launch and the patching just made it prettier (my friends and mine) We're all using Nvidia though! Don't generalize a game's launch just cause it ran like crap for you. I'm sorry to hear that it did and I do hope AMD/ATi releases proper drivers and iD fixes their game for AMD/ATi card users, cause it's a pretty fun game. Story sucks, but gameplay is fantastic. Wingsticks FTW!

On another note; game was not worth 60$. If they dev Doom4 for PC first and not cost 60$ then problem solved. I know for sure that iD learned a lesson by not dev-ing for PC first with Rage, Carmack even admits it, so we'll definitely see them work harder on Doom4.

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#9 Technomancer82
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I really feel that ID is something of a dinosaur of game development.

Games have moved on from the simple point and shoot that they do well.

Especially if you're going to use so many years on every single game. It's just not going to be economically viable.

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#10 Inconsistancy
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DOOM 4 rumor, games are done when they are done and no title under development at id has been postponed – indefinitely or otherwise.DCDeacon Pete Hines-twitter

... id Twitter > Kotaku

I really feel that ID is something of a dinosaur of game development.

Games have moved on from the simple point and shoot that they do well.

Especially if you're going to use so many years on every single game. It's just not going to be economically viable.

Technomancer82

id was trying something new, story, and failed miserably, not like Bethesda has ever put good Gameplay into their games, but it looks they're trying with Skyrim... luckily for Skyrim, people don't care if Bethesda makes a game that's pretty... mediocre at it's core, they just mod it and call it a masterpiece anyway.

It ran crap at launch and even after all the fixes it is still running crap well not as super bad as before but still. All the BS id dished out wow....Silicel1

Performance is still a bit on the mediocre side for AMD, but... since when has AMD had a game launch smoothly on OpenGL?

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#11 Macutchi
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great font size and colour choice there Morrinator :D

as far as what you wrote goes i doubt many will lose too much sleep over it if true

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[QUOTE="yonyz"]What did they do with Rage?Silicel1
It ran crap at launch and even after all the fixes it is still running crap well not as super bad as before but still. All the BS id dished out wow....

Speak for yourself, ran great at launch for me and continues to run great, one of the best optimized games I've ever played given the fantastic visuals. I guess I'm lucky I have a nvidia card.
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#13 charmingcharlie
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It appears Kotaku or (loltaku as some call it) has been making up rubbish again. According to Pete Hines the Vice President of Bethesda "it is a load of ........ "well I can't repeat the word on here for fear of sanction. He went on to say :-

Re: DOOM 4 rumor, games are done when they are done and no title under development at id has been postponed – indefinitely or otherwise.Pete Hines

Source :- http://beefjack.com/news/rumour-doom-4-indefinitely-postponed-after-rage-issues/

So that is that it seems

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#14 Raxzor
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I really feel that ID is something of a dinosaur of game development.

Games have moved on from the simple point and shoot that they do well.

Especially if you're going to use so many years on every single game. It's just not going to be economically viable.

Technomancer82
I agree with this. DOOM 3 was a stinker it was basically a 1992 game with a updated engine. ID games have not moved on for the last 20 years but Carmack thinks himself to be some sort of gaming royalty. But even the mightiest king's rule must come to a end. I have not impressed by ID for years.
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#15 Gooeykat
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[QUOTE="Technomancer82"]

I really feel that ID is something of a dinosaur of game development.

Games have moved on from the simple point and shoot that they do well.

Especially if you're going to use so many years on every single game. It's just not going to be economically viable.

Raxzor
I agree with this. DOOM 3 was a stinker it was basically a 1992 game with a updated engine. ID games have not moved on for the last 20 years but Carmack thinks himself to be some sort of gaming royalty. But even the mightiest king's rule must come to a end. I have not impressed by ID for years.

Actually, I thought that was the complaint with Doom 3, it wasn't a 1992 (i.e. it was nothing like the original, closed spaces claustrophobic feeling throughout the entire game). Had they made it more true to it's roots, maybe more of the fanbase would have been happy. I thought it was good but then again I never played the orignals.
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#16 Baranga
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Carmack thinks himself to be some sort of gaming royalty. But even the mightiest king's rule must come to a end. Raxzor

What?

Also, I simply can't pay any attention when someone gives his opinion about a company whose name it can't even spell. Come on!

And lastly, with Rage id proved they can still make incredible shooters. Everything else in Rage - whatever, you're entitled to your opinion. But the shooting aspect is miles above the competition. And funny thing is, sometimes it's closer to the cIassic Dooms than Doom 3.

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#17 TerrorRizzing
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solution, go back pc exclusive. I dont know why devs dont get they have to cater to their audience.

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#18 TerrorRizzing
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[QUOTE="Technomancer82"]

I really feel that ID is something of a dinosaur of game development.

Games have moved on from the simple point and shoot that they do well.

Especially if you're going to use so many years on every single game. It's just not going to be economically viable.

Raxzor

I agree with this. DOOM 3 was a stinker it was basically a 1992 game with a updated engine. ID games have not moved on for the last 20 years but Carmack thinks himself to be some sort of gaming royalty. But even the mightiest king's rule must come to a end. I have not impressed by ID for years.

doom 3 was awesome, sold well and it knew its audience. I bet doom 4 will suck now and sell horribly because they think they need to move focus on dumb "cinematic" experiences even more.

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#19 TerrorRizzing
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http://beefjack.com/news/rumour-doom-4-indefinitely-postponed-after-rage-issues/

kotaku sucks

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[QUOTE="Raxzor"][QUOTE="Technomancer82"]

I really feel that ID is something of a dinosaur of game development.

Games have moved on from the simple point and shoot that they do well.

Especially if you're going to use so many years on every single game. It's just not going to be economically viable.

Gooeykat
I agree with this. DOOM 3 was a stinker it was basically a 1992 game with a updated engine. ID games have not moved on for the last 20 years but Carmack thinks himself to be some sort of gaming royalty. But even the mightiest king's rule must come to a end. I have not impressed by ID for years.

Actually, I thought that was the complaint with Doom 3, it wasn't a 1992 (i.e. it was nothing like the original, closed spaces claustrophobic feeling throughout the entire game). Had they made it more true to it's roots, maybe more of the fanbase would have been happy. I thought it was good but then again I never played the orignals.

yeah, I actually had more fun playing doom 3 with the classic doom mod, I dont think I ever really finished the doom 3 campaign.
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#21 GummiRaccoon
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[QUOTE="Technomancer82"]

I really feel that ID is something of a dinosaur of game development.

Games have moved on from the simple point and shoot that they do well.

Especially if you're going to use so many years on every single game. It's just not going to be economically viable.

Raxzor

I agree with this. DOOM 3 was a stinker it was basically a 1992 game with a updated engine. ID games have not moved on for the last 20 years but Carmack thinks himself to be some sort of gaming royalty. But even the mightiest king's rule must come to a end. I have not impressed by ID for years.

What exactly makes it a 1992 game? doom3 was a survival horror FPS.

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#22 XIntoTheBlue
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So when has Bethesda/Zenimax ever plublished a game that was rated a score of anything above mediocre that was not a game they developed themselves (Elder scrolls/Fallout)?
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[QUOTE="Silicel1"][QUOTE="yonyz"]What did they do with Rage?trastamad03

It ran crap at launch and even after all the fixes it is still running crap well not as super bad as before but still. All the BS id dished out wow....

Rage was fun. Worked flawlessly on our PCs at launch and the patching just made it prettier (my friends and mine) We're all using Nvidia though! Don't generalize a game's launch just cause it ran like crap for you. I'm sorry to hear that it did and I do hope AMD/ATi releases proper drivers and iD fixes their game for AMD/ATi card users

cards from both companies had issues galore. you must be one of the few people who have had no issues with that game.
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#24 Phoenix534
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[QUOTE="trastamad03"]

[QUOTE="Silicel1"] It ran crap at launch and even after all the fixes it is still running crap well not as super bad as before but still. All the BS id dished out wow....yellosnolvr

Rage was fun. Worked flawlessly on our PCs at launch and the patching just made it prettier (my friends and mine) We're all using Nvidia though! Don't generalize a game's launch just cause it ran like crap for you. I'm sorry to hear that it did and I do hope AMD/ATi releases proper drivers and iD fixes their game for AMD/ATi card users

cards from both companies had issues galore. you must be one of the few people who have had no issues with that game.

And I guess I was another one. The game ran perfectly fine for me and I rarely noticed the pop-in just by playing the game normally.

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After Id spent 7 years making rage its no surprise Zenimax lost confidence in their project management.
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#26 GummiRaccoon
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Kotaku is a bunch of liars. Every piece of information they put out is plagarized or made up.

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#27 Inconsistancy
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After Id spent 7 years making rage its no surprise Zenimax lost confidence in their project management. bonafidetk
Rumor confirmed to be bs...
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#28 QQabitmoar
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So, you could say that ID is...*sunglasses*... DOOMED. YEAAAAHHHH.

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#29 dangamit
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Haven't these idiots learned from Crytek's experience? They already had a huge fan base in the PC market, but NO! They got greedy and ditched their PC origins for some console dollars. I hope it was worth it, id.
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#30 kris9031998
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[QUOTE="bonafidetk"]After Id spent 7 years making rage its no surprise Zenimax lost confidence in their project management. Inconsistancy
Rumor confirmed to be bs...

UPDATE: Its real. At least, if i read the title correctly.
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#31 Phoenix534
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[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"][QUOTE="bonafidetk"]After Id spent 7 years making rage its no surprise Zenimax lost confidence in their project management. kris9031998
Rumor confirmed to be bs...

UPDATE: Its real. At least, if i read the title correctly.

Bethesda is saying that the rumor is, quoted from Pete Hines, "Complete bollocks"

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#32 kris9031998
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[QUOTE="kris9031998"][QUOTE="Inconsistancy"] Rumor confirmed to be bs...Phoenix534

UPDATE: Its real. At least, if i read the title correctly.

Bethesda is saying that the rumor is, quoted from Pete Hines, "Complete bollocks"

Link please?
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#33 GummiRaccoon
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[QUOTE="Phoenix534"]

[QUOTE="kris9031998"] UPDATE: Its real. At least, if i read the title correctly.kris9031998

Bethesda is saying that the rumor is, quoted from Pete Hines, "Complete bollocks"

Link please?

go ahead and reread this thread, cuz it was posted in here.

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#34 attirex
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Or maybe everyone could read the article posted on this site that goes by the name of "Gamespot:" http://www.gamespot.com/news/6341582/doom-4-indefinitely-postponed?tag=newstop%3Btitle%3B6
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#35 Phoenix534
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[QUOTE="Phoenix534"]

[QUOTE="kris9031998"] UPDATE: Its real. At least, if i read the title correctly.kris9031998

Bethesda is saying that the rumor is, quoted from Pete Hines, "Complete bollocks"

Link please?

I would, but GS is being a jerk and not letting me post links so I'm just going to say go check the second page on RPS.

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#36 Warhawk_
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I remember when I said that id sold out and so many people try to defend them. They are in the same level as Epic Games and Crytek where they were once the top pc game makers and now try to focus on consoles first. All John Carmack ever said in his interviews of Rage was how the consoles had untapped powers and consoles this and that but hardly ever talked about the pc. Say what you want but pc is just not as great as it was back then I mean it's awesome and I enjoy my games more on it then the current console sbut it's just not as good as it use to be with all these former pc gaming companies selling out.