PS3 Movie Audio Probs. Pls Help

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#1 Coolboy420x
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Okay so I got couple of questions about PS3's Audio options. Firstly What is Bitmapping and should I have it on 1, 2, or 3? Second, Whats PCM 44 or 48s and which ones should I select cuz if I select all of them it says that wrong one might ruin my Home Theater system. Thirdly, all the movies in which I select Dolby Digital 5.1 or anything else, the Dialogues' volume is so low I cant even hear them, yet the music and SFX go crazy loud, how do I fix that? can anybody help me out here? I posted this on the PS3 forum but no response.
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FIrst off, do you have it hooked up to a reciever? if so just let it select the options itself. Are you using it for HI-DEF movies or just standard DVDs? If you are using it for Blu-ray then you want your audio set to output PCM if DVD then its user preference. There is a audio option that you can set that helps with the diologue volumes. Forget what its called though, but its there. I would just leave it set to PCM and you should not have the dialogue issue. FYI bitmapping is used if you are wanting to pass your audio through and let the reciever do the decoding. PCM has the PS3 do the decoding and then sending a uncompressed signal to the receiver. PCM is the only way you will be able to pass DolbyHD and DTS HD MA.
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#3 Coolboy420x
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Yes i do have it hooked up the Onkyo Reciever. I have tried several things and althought the songs, games I play work without any problem, the dialouge volume decreases when im watching a dvd or a Blu-ray. n Thanks for the reply, only very few people seems to know about this stuff.
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#4 Shrinekeeper
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You do have it set to PCM right?

Also try turning the center speakers db level up some, since that is the speaker that outputs the dialogue.

Oh and what Onkyo receiver do you have?

If it is a newer model have you done the Audysey sound set-up?

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Well I have my PS3 connected with an Optical cable to the reciever and after reading some stuff on forums, it seems that people can't decided wether Optical is better with PCM or Bitstream but Yes I am running it on PCM. Turning up the Center Speaker seems good enough advice I guess and My Onkyo Receiver does have Audysey option and its on and if you are refering to Calebrating the sound with the mic then yes I have done that as well, is that what the Audysey Sound set up is? THanks
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#6 Coolboy420x
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BTW the Onkyo reciever is TX-SR506 and 576. I dont know if its the old or new model.
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Yes that is what the Audysey sound set-up is. Can the optical even output the hi-def audio in PCM? or does it just pass standard Dolby and DTS in PCM? I know optical can't do 7.1 because of bandwidth issues not sure if it has same problems with HD audio.

Honestly if you are looking to upgrade receiver anytime soon get a tx-sr605 or 705, since both of these models has 1080p HDMI pass-through. I dont seem to have the dialogue issue when running audio through HDMI.

Did bumping up the center speaker seem to help any?

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Well I have my PS3 connected with an Optical cable to the reciever and after reading some stuff on forums, it seems that people can't decided wether Optical is better with PCM or Bitstream but Yes I am running it on PCM. Turning up the Center Speaker seems good enough advice I guess and My Onkyo Receiver does have Audysey option and its on and if you are refering to Calebrating the sound with the mic then yes I have done that as well, is that what the Audysey Sound set up is? THanksCoolboy420x

You need to always select bitstream when using optical. There is no situation where selecting PCM using optical is actually a good idea. You only get 2 channels if you select PCM. That may be your problem.

Optical has the following limitations:

  1. Cannot output 7.1
  2. Cannot pass more than 2 channels of PCM (HD Audio)

I would advise you to upgrade to a receiver capable of processing HDMI audio if you want to listen to HD audio in a 5.1/7.1 setup.

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Well guess that answers my optical question. So yea, if you want to get the most out of your sounds I would pick up a HD capable receiver (all HDaudio receivers should have HDMI pass-through)
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#10 Coolboy420x
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Well firstly I read on a forum somewhere that Optical running on BITSTREAM gives you only 2 Channels but i guess they are wrong, its the other way around. Using PCM on Optical gives you 2 channels. BTW I just checked the back of the reciever and it does have 3 HDMI outputs, but since I already have one HDMI port of the PS3 running to my HDTV, should I put the HDMI from the reciever to the HDTV directly? will that work or give me lesser quality in some other way. Thanks for you respones, much appreciated.

PS: And if i go and buy a HDMI, run it through to my TV, then it should be set to PCM right?

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IF that receiver has HDMI input/output I would run ps3 into receiver then receiver to TV. Does that model output 1080p though? Unless of course your TV is not 1080p then I guess it dont matter :p.
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#12 l0053
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Here's the problem. With a receiver that can process HDMI audio, you can do the following:

PS3 --HDMI cable --> Receiver --HDMI cable --> TV

However, your receiver (SR506) cannot process HDMI audio so you are stuck with either:

PS3 --HDMI cable --> Receiver -->HDMI cable --> TV

PS3 --optical cable --> Receiver

OR

PS3 --HDMI cable --> TV

PS3 --optical cable --> Receiver

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#13 Coolboy420x
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Here's the problem. With a receiver that can process HDMI audio, you can do the following:

PS3 --HDMI cable --> Receiver --HDMI cable --> TV

However, your receiver (SR506) cannot process HDMI audio so you are stuck with either:

PS3 --HDMI cable --> Receiver -->HDMI cable --> TV

PS3 --optical cable --> Receiver

OR

PS3 --HDMI cable --> TV

PS3 --optical cable --> Receiver

l0053
Hey I0053 man you're right on about the options you gave me and though I am current running it as

PS3 --HDMI cable --> TV

PS3 --optical cable --> Receiver

I was wondering if running it with HDMI would make a difference because everyone says I need HDMI cable to get the true HD sounds. But if I dont get that sound then buying a HDMI cable would be a waste right? or will running it like your first option will make a difference? u know with the HDMI and the optical cable, cuz the manual says I gotta use both wires. Thanks

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[QUOTE="l0053"]

Here's the problem. With a receiver that can process HDMI audio, you can do the following:

PS3 --HDMI cable --> Receiver --HDMI cable --> TV

However, your receiver (SR506) cannot process HDMI audio so you are stuck with either:

PS3 --HDMI cable --> Receiver -->HDMI cable --> TV

PS3 --optical cable --> Receiver

OR

PS3 --HDMI cable --> TV

PS3 --optical cable --> Receiver

Coolboy420x
Hey I0053 man you're right on about the options you gave me and though I am current running it as

PS3 --HDMI cable --> TV

PS3 --optical cable --> Receiver

I was wondering if running it with HDMI would make a difference because everyone says I need HDMI cable to get the true HD sounds. But if I dont get that sound then buying a HDMI cable would be a waste right? or will running it like your first option will make a difference? u know with the HDMI and the optical cable, cuz the manual says I gotta use both wires. Thanks

For the PS3, HDMI is the only way to get HD audio (7.1 PCM, Dolby trueHD, DTS HD MA), as for stand alone players, you do have the option of using multichannel analog cables (that is 8 separate RCA cables) to get HD audio, but you have to make sure the player can decode Dolby trueHD and DTS HD MA (All players can decode PCM). I wished sony could sell a Multichannel AV cord (A 7.1 cable that can also work with 5.1), I would rather pay $30 for it to listen to PCM 5.1, rather than paying $500 for an AV receiver, even for 7.1.