Question on Overclocking - Specifically for 8800GT 512 MB

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#1 h575309
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So I might get flamed for this but I just purchased a Gateway FX 7024 instead of building one simply because it seemed like a great deal. It was $850 for an Intel Q6600, 3 MB RAM. 8800 GT 512 and 500 GB HDD. Seemed reasonable for me and I picked it up. I have installed Crysis and it runs pretty well (I can put almost everything on Very High except for shaders on High and shadows on medium) and it runs at a decent rate.

Anyway, I was wondering if any of you had overclocked the 8800GT and had performance increases (with Crysis or just in general). If any of you have, could you direct me to a site that could help me do it or quickly explain how I can go about this. This is my first "gaming" rig so I never overclocked a vid card before. Anyway, thanks for the help in advance.

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Use Riva Tuner to do it. Google that search term. Also , on thier forums will give you all you need to know. You will learn a lot.
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Overview
This TekSpek explains why you'd want to overclock your graphics board, the risks in doing so and how you can go about doing it.

Why?
Most of you reading this TekSpek will know that if your graphics card is the limiting factor in your PC's games performance, that making it run faster will give you more performance at your chosen settings. Depending on the game and the rest of your PC's components and their setup, there's a balance between being limited by the graphics board and being limited by something else.

So if you're able to make your graphics card go faster than normal then you'll get more performance, and for nothing other than your time and effort. Board performances can almost always be adjusted with software, which makes it very simple to do. Things to consider when overclocking are simple (and somewhat obvious too), making the whole process a doable one with little fuss. This TekSpek will show you how.

Risks
The risks in overclocking are potentially fatal to the graphics board, since they create more heat for the cooler to manage and may also increase the voltage supply to the GPU and memory devices. Running things out of specification therefore carries a risk, but as long as limits are explored sensibly then permanent problems or damage can almost always be avoided. However, be aware that improper overclocking can have bad side effects and therefore you do so entirely and absolutely at your own risk, not ours!

How to do it
We'll illustrate how it's done with RivaTuner, the very popular tweak utility for NVIDIA (and some ATI) graphics cards, and your author's NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GTX 512, however the basic techniques and methods are applicable to almost any modern graphics board and its associated overclocking tools. We'll present a list at the end of this TekSpek.

When running RivaTuner for the first time you'll see the following, which confirms what graphics board you have installed and its basic configuration.


To access the overclocking tool inside of RivaTuner you click the button next to "Customize..." alongside "ForceWare detected". That gives you the flyout menu with access to the button (first one) that'll bring up the overclocking tool.


Clicking the right button then shows you the following, where clocks can be adjusted.


Ticking the "Enable driver-level hardware overclocking" checkbox and the subsequent "Detect now" button to grab the current clock rates lets you start adjusting them. Note the current 550/850 (with the 850 shown at its effective clock rate of 1700) clocks and the sliders for adjust.

Now the meat of the whole thing: adjusting the clocks incrementally and testing things out. To find the reasonable limits of both core and memory, you want to adjust both at the same time in reasonable increments, setting those clocks and playing a game or running a benchmark to test stability, monitoring heat output and what's on the display to make sure things are alright for an extended period of time.

We suggest 5 or 10MHz jumps, until things go wrong and the application crashes, you get display corruption, the entire system hangs or resets, or something else out of the ordinary. The small increments and thorough testing for anomalies here means that things won't break, just get unstable at a certain point. When that happens, take the last known good clocks -- whatever they happen to be -- and start adjusting core and memory clocks individually in smaller (1 or 2MHz) increments until you reach the absolute limits, testing for good operation in your favourite game or strong stress test such as 3DMark. If your chosen overclocking tool has a stability or rendering artifacts test, you can use that in conjunction with something a little more real world.

The act of small incremental increases and heavily stability testing is the key to a successful overclock, and be sure and monitor temperatures on your graphics card and system to make sure the extra heat output of the faster switching transistors on GPU and memory devices.

Here we are 15MHz away from the base clocks on our test board, just so you can see it in action.


Tools to help you overclock your graphics board
Here's a list of tools, drivers and their targets, to help you have a go at overclocking your own board.

RivaTuner - Almost all NVIDIA and some ATI products
ATI Tray Tools - ATI graphics boards
ATI Tool - ATI graphics boards

Official ATI display drivers
Official NVIDIA drivers
3DChipset - Official and unofficial drivers repository for NVIDIA and ATI

Summary
Overclocking your GPU is free and easy, and provided you take it slow and test each incremental step thoroughly, free performance should come at the expense of nothing more than a bit more heat, and your time and effort of course. This TekSpek sought to explain the hows and whys, and give you a list of tools to help you on your way.

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download ntune from nvidia it works pretty well

http://www.nvidia.com/object/ntune_5.05.54.00.html

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download ntune from nvidia it works pretty well

http://www.nvidia.com/object/ntune_5.05.54.00.html

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ntune will f up his bios

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Overview
This TekSpek explains why you'd want to overclock your graphics board, the risks in doing so and how you can go about doing it.

Why?
Most of you reading this TekSpek will know that if your graphics card is the limiting factor in your PC's games performance, that making it run faster will give you more performance at your chosen settings. Depending on the game and the rest of your PC's components and their setup, there's a balance between being limited by the graphics board and being limited by something else.

So if you're able to make your graphics card go faster than normal then you'll get more performance, and for nothing other than your time and effort. Board performances can almost always be adjusted with software, which makes it very simple to do. Things to consider when overclocking are simple (and somewhat obvious too), making the whole process a doable one with little fuss. This TekSpek will show you how.

Risks
The risks in overclocking are potentially fatal to the graphics board, since they create more heat for the cooler to manage and may also increase the voltage supply to the GPU and memory devices. Running things out of specification therefore carries a risk, but as long as limits are explored sensibly then permanent problems or damage can almost always be avoided. However, be aware that improper overclocking can have bad side effects and therefore you do so entirely and absolutely at your own risk, not ours!

How to do it
We'll illustrate how it's done with RivaTuner, the very popular tweak utility for NVIDIA (and some ATI) graphics cards, and your author's NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GTX 512, however the basic techniques and methods are applicable to almost any modern graphics board and its associated overclocking tools. We'll present a list at the end of this TekSpek.

When running RivaTuner for the first time you'll see the following, which confirms what graphics board you have installed and its basic configuration.


To access the overclocking tool inside of RivaTuner you click the button next to "Customize..." alongside "ForceWare detected". That gives you the flyout menu with access to the button (first one) that'll bring up the overclocking tool.


Clicking the right button then shows you the following, where clocks can be adjusted.


Ticking the "Enable driver-level hardware overclocking" checkbox and the subsequent "Detect now" button to grab the current clock rates lets you start adjusting them. Note the current 550/850 (with the 850 shown at its effective clock rate of 1700) clocks and the sliders for adjust.

Now the meat of the whole thing: adjusting the clocks incrementally and testing things out. To find the reasonable limits of both core and memory, you want to adjust both at the same time in reasonable increments, setting those clocks and playing a game or running a benchmark to test stability, monitoring heat output and what's on the display to make sure things are alright for an extended period of time.

We suggest 5 or 10MHz jumps, until things go wrong and the application crashes, you get display corruption, the entire system hangs or resets, or something else out of the ordinary. The small increments and thorough testing for anomalies here means that things won't break, just get unstable at a certain point. When that happens, take the last known good clocks -- whatever they happen to be -- and start adjusting core and memory clocks individually in smaller (1 or 2MHz) increments until you reach the absolute limits, testing for good operation in your favourite game or strong stress test such as 3DMark. If your chosen overclocking tool has a stability or rendering artifacts test, you can use that in conjunction with something a little more real world.

The act of small incremental increases and heavily stability testing is the key to a successful overclock, and be sure and monitor temperatures on your graphics card and system to make sure the extra heat output of the faster switching transistors on GPU and memory devices.

Here we are 15MHz away from the base clocks on our test board, just so you can see it in action.


Tools to help you overclock your graphics board
Here's a list of tools, drivers and their targets, to help you have a go at overclocking your own board.

RivaTuner - Almost all NVIDIA and some ATI products
ATI Tray Tools - ATI graphics boards
ATI Tool - ATI graphics boards

Official ATI display drivers
Official NVIDIA drivers
3DChipset - Official and unofficial drivers repository for NVIDIA and ATI

Summary
Overclocking your GPU is free and easy, and provided you take it slow and test each incremental step thoroughly, free performance should come at the expense of nothing more than a bit more heat, and your time and effort of course. This TekSpek sought to explain the hows and whys, and give you a list of tools to help you on your way.

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#7 h575309
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this all looks very helpful thanks guys. unfortunately, im at work now and cannot do anything with it yet. also, i dont have internet at home yet (new apartment) but that looks very easy to use.

on a side note, what kind of fps are you getting with crysis and with what setups? (single GPU, sli, crossfire?) and also what settings have you found to be optimal for your rig?

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i posted this because next thing he might ask is what button do i press and this should give him a brief inside to rivatuner
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this all looks very helpful thanks guys. unfortunately, im at work now and cannot do anything with it yet. also, i dont have internet at home yet (new apartment) but that looks very easy to use.

on a side note, what kind of fps are you getting with crysis and with what setups? (single GPU, sli, crossfire?) and also what settings have you found to be optimal for your rig?

h575309

I have a XFX 8800GTS XXX 512MB version (Factory OC'd) If I leave it as is I get roughly about 56FPS. All settings High and my CPU is a E8400 OC'd to 4.2GHz , 2GB Crucial Ballistix Tracer 800MHz RAM OC'd to 1000MHz.

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i posted this because next thing he might ask is what button do i press and this should give him a brief inside to rivatunerIQT786

I know , was just joking with ya. Also , he needs to learn how to unlock the shader option.

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if you don't have Internet access at home best thing todo is download it at work or at a Internet cafe and put on a usb stick or cd
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[QUOTE="IQT786"]i posted this because next thing he might ask is what button do i press and this should give him a brief inside to rivatunerdebusentel

I know , was just joking with ya. Also , he needs to learn how to unlock the shader option.

yeah i know ;)

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[QUOTE="h575309"]

this all looks very helpful thanks guys. unfortunately, im at work now and cannot do anything with it yet. also, i dont have internet at home yet (new apartment) but that looks very easy to use.

on a side note, what kind of fps are you getting with crysis and with what setups? (single GPU, sli, crossfire?) and also what settings have you found to be optimal for your rig?

debusentel

I have a XFX 8800GTS XXX 512MB version (Factory OC'd) If I leave it as is I get roughly about 56FPS. All settings High and my CPU is a E8400 OC'd to 4.2GHz , 2GB Crucial Ballistix Tracer 800MHz RAM OC'd to 1000MHz.

what rez are you running that at? and have you seen resolution affect fps to a noticeable degree?

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[QUOTE="debusentel"][QUOTE="h575309"]

this all looks very helpful thanks guys. unfortunately, im at work now and cannot do anything with it yet. also, i dont have internet at home yet (new apartment) but that looks very easy to use.

on a side note, what kind of fps are you getting with crysis and with what setups? (single GPU, sli, crossfire?) and also what settings have you found to be optimal for your rig?

h575309

I have a XFX 8800GTS XXX 512MB version (Factory OC'd) If I leave it as is I get roughly about 56FPS. All settings High and my CPU is a E8400 OC'd to 4.2GHz , 2GB Crucial Ballistix Tracer 800MHz RAM OC'd to 1000MHz.

what rez are you running that at? and have you seen resolution affect fps to a noticeable degree?

My res is 1680 1050 , I have a 22 inch Widescreen and 22 inch is perfect for resolution , any higher then I would have to sacrifice performance. Yes , depending on your monitor and GPU you will notice FPS differences.

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[QUOTE="h575309"][QUOTE="debusentel"][QUOTE="h575309"]

this all looks very helpful thanks guys. unfortunately, im at work now and cannot do anything with it yet. also, i dont have internet at home yet (new apartment) but that looks very easy to use.

on a side note, what kind of fps are you getting with crysis and with what setups? (single GPU, sli, crossfire?) and also what settings have you found to be optimal for your rig?

debusentel

I have a XFX 8800GTS XXX 512MB version (Factory OC'd) If I leave it as is I get roughly about 56FPS. All settings High and my CPU is a E8400 OC'd to 4.2GHz , 2GB Crucial Ballistix Tracer 800MHz RAM OC'd to 1000MHz.

what rez are you running that at? and have you seen resolution affect fps to a noticeable degree?

My res is 1680 1050 , I have a 22 inch Widescreen and 22 inch is perfect for resolution , any higher then I would have to sacrifice performance. Yes , depending on your monitor and GPU you will notice FPS differences.

i have the same size monitor and 1680x1050 is also my native resolution. is it best to keep the rez and adapt the image quality around that? i love the tweaking part of pc gaming but it can also be frustrating. im just gonna have to keep playing aroudn with it. and obviously i do not have the new crysis patch because i do not have internet. hopefully thatll give me a tiny boost.

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Yes , its best for you Graphics to play at native or lower , depending on what your playing and system power. The 8800GT should be able to play at that res but I do not have one (I have a 8800 GTS XXX) so I cannot say how yours will do with 100% accuracy.
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[QUOTE="yetiboy15"]

download ntune from nvidia it works pretty well

http://www.nvidia.com/object/ntune_5.05.54.00.html

IQT786

ntune will f up his bios

Well it wont unless you tell it to. Course riva is easier to not fubar something up unless you get into the registry and start smacking your numpad like a monkey.

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[QUOTE="IQT786"][QUOTE="yetiboy15"]

download ntune from nvidia it works pretty well

http://www.nvidia.com/object/ntune_5.05.54.00.html

CreasianDevaili

ntune will f up his bios

Well it wont unless you tell it to. Course riva is easier to not fubar something up unless you get into the registry and start smacking your numpad like a monkey.

soon as you install ntune it resets the bios