radeon 6870 vs. gtx 560 ti

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#1 moondawg009
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Which is better for gaming, i intend to play SWTOR and WoW, and i cant decide on a video card im torn between the Radeon 6870 and the GTX 560 ti, which is better and do you guys have any other suggestiosn for a good card, for my video card my budget is about 250$ thanks.

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Which is better for gaming, i intend to play SWTOR and WoW, and i cant decide on a video card im torn between the Radeon 6870 and the GTX 560 ti, which is better and do you guys have any other suggestiosn for a good card, for my video card my budget is about 250$ thanks.

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GTX 560ti is the faster card, But for $250 your best choice would be an AMD 7850. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131464
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#3 MonsieurX
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...or a used 6970\GTX 570.
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#4 KoAxBIGxBOSSx
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I just recently built my gaming pc, i spent around $1200 and i went with the GTX 560 Ti i play WoW, SWTOR,and Diablo all at 60 fps or more on max settings. It was my first build and my friends told me to go nvidia so i chose the 560 its a great card and I'm very happy with my selection
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[QUOTE="moondawg009"]

Which is better for gaming, i intend to play SWTOR and WoW, and i cant decide on a video card im torn between the Radeon 6870 and the GTX 560 ti, which is better and do you guys have any other suggestiosn for a good card, for my video card my budget is about 250$ thanks.

04dcarraher
GTX 560ti is the faster card, But for $250 your best choice would be an AMD 7850. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131464

what he said. If you can spend up to 250 7850 is a better card not only in terms of performance but in terms of power consumption and Overclock ability as well 6870 is the cheaper one and can go as low as 160 and its a great card for the money as does the 200-220 gtx 560ti ( all cards will play those games maxed out at 60fps no problems )
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#6 AlexKidd5000
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I would honestly say the 6870, the performance of the two are pretty darn close, and the 6870 is only $165
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I would honestly say the 6870, the performance of the two are pretty darn close, and the 6870 is only $165AlexKidd5000
Yeah, i too consider the 6870 to be the better deal, even though the 560 Ti is the better card. But the 6870 is awesome too, it's able to greatly play EVERY single game out there high-ultra settings.
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[QUOTE="AlexKidd5000"]I would honestly say the 6870, the performance of the two are pretty darn close, and the 6870 is only $165ArchDemon123
Yeah, i too consider the 6870 to be the better deal, even though the 560 Ti is the better card. But the 6870 is awesome too, it's able to greatly play EVERY single game out there high-ultra settings.

or a GTX460, OCed it beats the 6870 even when the 6870 is OCed.
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[QUOTE="ArchDemon123"][QUOTE="AlexKidd5000"]I would honestly say the 6870, the performance of the two are pretty darn close, and the 6870 is only $165muscleserge
Yeah, i too consider the 6870 to be the better deal, even though the 560 Ti is the better card. But the 6870 is awesome too, it's able to greatly play EVERY single game out there high-ultra settings.

or a GTX460, OCed it beats the 6870 even when the 6870 is OCed.

The 460s too old and outdated design, my brother has a full tower case with great airflow and his card hits 95c playing BF3 without overclock and it has very poor Dx11 performance. It was good in its time but its 2 gens old.

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#10 muscleserge
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[QUOTE="muscleserge"][QUOTE="ArchDemon123"] Yeah, i too consider the 6870 to be the better deal, even though the 560 Ti is the better card. But the 6870 is awesome too, it's able to greatly play EVERY single game out there high-ultra settings.Obiwan_1O

or a GTX460, OCed it beats the 6870 even when the 6870 is OCed.

The 460s too old and outdated design, my brother has a full tower case with great airflow and his card hits 95c playing BF3 without overclock and it has very poor Dx11 performance. It was good in its time but its 2 gens old.

its the same gen as the 6870, also the gtx460 is known as a pretty cool card, 95c seems high, something might be wrong. DX11 performance is just as good as the 6870 if not better. Technically the gtx460 is more of a 500 series card than the old fermi design, actually it is a 500 series card. My point is not for him to get a gtx460 or 6870, both are old tech, same with the gtx500 series. if getting a new card might as well get the newest tech.
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#11 SaitouZero
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If your budget is $250 then definitely go for the 7850. The 7850 performs very closely to a 6950 which beats a 560 Ti most of the time, sometimes by a lot.

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The 460s too old and outdated design, my brother has a full tower case with great airflow and his card hits 95c playing BF3 without overclock and it has very poor Dx11 performance. It was good in its time but its 2 gens old.

Obiwan_1O

What? Poor cooler? I had the reference model before and they stay below 60-70c even after overclocking.

The gtx 460 are currently rebadged as gtx 560 with higher clocks and they are on par with 6870.

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[QUOTE="Obiwan_1O"]

The 460s too old and outdated design, my brother has a full tower case with great airflow and his card hits 95c playing BF3 without overclock and it has very poor Dx11 performance. It was good in its time but its 2 gens old.

Bikouchu35

What? Poor cooler? I had the reference model before and they stay below 60-70c even after overclocking.

The gtx 460 are currently rebadged as gtx 560 with higher clocks and they are on par with 6870.

The GTX 560's are not just a re badge of GTX 460's they are different , they use the same core as the GTX 560ti (G114), but with one shader cluster disabled. Also the gpu architecture was redesigned to be more efficient. Even if they were clocked the same the GTX 560 would be still be slightly faster.

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[QUOTE="muscleserge"][QUOTE="ArchDemon123"] Yeah, i too consider the 6870 to be the better deal, even though the 560 Ti is the better card. But the 6870 is awesome too, it's able to greatly play EVERY single game out there high-ultra settings.Obiwan_1O

or a GTX460, OCed it beats the 6870 even when the 6870 is OCed.

The 460s too old and outdated design, my brother has a full tower case with great airflow and his card hits 95c playing BF3 without overclock and it has very poor Dx11 performance. It was good in its time but its 2 gens old.

Mine never goes above 65 C and its at 910mhz...Sounds like your brother has a bad card...Anyways TC if you are willing to go $250 the 7850 is your card.

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[QUOTE="Obiwan_1O"]

[QUOTE="muscleserge"] or a GTX460, OCed it beats the 6870 even when the 6870 is OCed.muscleserge

The 460s too old and outdated design, my brother has a full tower case with great airflow and his card hits 95c playing BF3 without overclock and it has very poor Dx11 performance. It was good in its time but its 2 gens old.

its the same gen as the 6870, also the gtx460 is known as a pretty cool card, 95c seems high, something might be wrong. DX11 performance is just as good as the 6870 if not better. Technically the gtx460 is more of a 500 series card than the old fermi design, actually it is a 500 series card. My point is not for him to get a gtx460 or 6870, both are old tech, same with the gtx500 series. if getting a new card might as well get the newest tech.

check ur facts the 460 is 5xxx gen since there has been 5xx and 6xx and for ATI 6xxx and 7xxx its 2 gens old and even if performance is good its too old to be a good investment when there are equal things of newer better designs.

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#16 Obiwan_1O
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[QUOTE="Obiwan_1O"]

[QUOTE="muscleserge"] or a GTX460, OCed it beats the 6870 even when the 6870 is OCed.neogeo419

The 460s too old and outdated design, my brother has a full tower case with great airflow and his card hits 95c playing BF3 without overclock and it has very poor Dx11 performance. It was good in its time but its 2 gens old.

Mine never goes above 65 C and its at 910mhz...Sounds like your brother has a bad card...Anyways TC if you are willing to go $250 the 7850 is your card.

ill have to let him know this but hes had it for almost 2 years I think and no problems, idk why his temps are so high. It always scares me but he dosnt seem to care since hes had no issues.

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#17 Diwashb
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Which is better for gaming, i intend to play SWTOR and WoW, and i cant decide on a video card im torn between the Radeon 6870 and the GTX 560 ti, which is better and do you guys have any other suggestiosn for a good card, for my video card my budget is about 250$ thanks.

moondawg009
Get the 560ti. Less heat, better value and better drivers.
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[QUOTE="neogeo419"]

[QUOTE="Obiwan_1O"]

The 460s too old and outdated design, my brother has a full tower case with great airflow and his card hits 95c playing BF3 without overclock and it has very poor Dx11 performance. It was good in its time but its 2 gens old.

Obiwan_1O

Mine never goes above 65 C and its at 910mhz...Sounds like your brother has a bad card...Anyways TC if you are willing to go $250 the 7850 is your card.

ill have to let him know this but hes had it for almost 2 years I think and no problems, idk why his temps are so high. It always scares me but he dosnt seem to care since hes had no issues.

Maybe he should clean it, because my 460s never reached beyond 90c and SLI causes more heat!
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[QUOTE="Bikouchu35"]

[QUOTE="Obiwan_1O"]

The 460s too old and outdated design, my brother has a full tower case with great airflow and his card hits 95c playing BF3 without overclock and it has very poor Dx11 performance. It was good in its time but its 2 gens old.

04dcarraher

What? Poor cooler? I had the reference model before and they stay below 60-70c even after overclocking.

The gtx 460 are currently rebadged as gtx 560 with higher clocks and they are on par with 6870.

The GTX 560's are not just a re badge of GTX 460's they are different , they use the same core as the GTX 560ti (G114), but with one shader cluster disabled. Also the gpu architecture was redesigned to be more efficient. Even if they were clocked the same the GTX 560 would be still be slightly faster.

Here we go again. The GTX 460 also used a die with a shader cluster disabled, which is why it ended up with 336 cores instead of 384. The only difference between an overclocked GTX 460 1GB and a GTX 560 is that the 560 is very slightly more power efficient. In terms of performance, they are the same clock for clock. They are architecturally identical aside from the power-saving improvements. For all intents and purposes, a GTX 560 is just a rebadged GTX 460 1GB OC.

To the people talking about a GTX 460 running hot- That is most definitely the exception and not the rule. They are well-known to be very cool-running cards. I had one with a 24/7 OC to 911mhz with a voltage bump, and it never hit over 72 degrees C in any game.

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[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]

[QUOTE="Bikouchu35"]

What? Poor cooler? I had the reference model before and they stay below 60-70c even after overclocking.

The gtx 460 are currently rebadged as gtx 560 with higher clocks and they are on par with 6870.

hartsickdiscipl

The GTX 560's are not just a re badge of GTX 460's they are different , they use the same core as the GTX 560ti (G114), but with one shader cluster disabled. Also the gpu architecture was redesigned to be more efficient. Even if they were clocked the same the GTX 560 would be still be slightly faster.

Here we go again. The GTX 460 also used a die with a shader cluster disabled, which is why it ended up with 336 cores instead of 384. The only difference between an overclocked GTX 460 1GB and a GTX 560 is that the 560 is very slightly more power efficient. In terms of performance, they are the same clock for clock. They are architecturally identical aside from the power-saving improvements. For all intents and purposes, a GTX 560 is just a rebadged GTX 460 1GB OC.

To the people talking about a GTX 460 running hot- That is most definitely the exception and not the rule. They are well-known to be very cool-running cards. I had one with a 24/7 OC to 911mhz with a voltage bump, and it never hit over 72 degrees C in any game.

Even with same clocks from old GTX 460 1gb (256bit) vs GTX 560 both at same clock speeds the GTX 560 was 5% faster in Passmark so with the GF114 improvement withefficiency did make it ever so slightly faster clock per clock.

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#21 hartsickdiscipl
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[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"] The GTX 560's are not just a re badge of GTX 460's they are different , they use the same core as the GTX 560ti (G114), but with one shader cluster disabled. Also the gpu architecture was redesigned to be more efficient. Even if they were clocked the same the GTX 560 would be still be slightly faster.

04dcarraher

Here we go again. The GTX 460 also used a die with a shader cluster disabled, which is why it ended up with 336 cores instead of 384. The only difference between an overclocked GTX 460 1GB and a GTX 560 is that the 560 is very slightly more power efficient. In terms of performance, they are the same clock for clock. They are architecturally identical aside from the power-saving improvements. For all intents and purposes, a GTX 560 is just a rebadged GTX 460 1GB OC.

To the people talking about a GTX 460 running hot- That is most definitely the exception and not the rule. They are well-known to be very cool-running cards. I had one with a 24/7 OC to 911mhz with a voltage bump, and it never hit over 72 degrees C in any game.

Even with same clocks from old GTX 460 1gb (256bit) vs GTX 560 both at same clock speeds the GTX 560 was 5% faster in Passmark so with the GF114 improvement withefficiency did make it ever so slightly faster clock per clock.

link? Same GPU and memory clocks?

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I would honestly say the 6870, the performance of the two are pretty darn close, and the 6870 is only $165AlexKidd5000
Yeah. I have 2 of the iceQ6870s, and they perform great. I was running The Witcher 2 on max with one of them alone, although I turned off bloom,blur effects, and uber sampling. I'm real happy with the 6870 and for the price I think it's one of the best deals. I haven't had the opportunity to play around with the 560 ti, although I hear it's a upgraded gtx460, which my son has one of those, and it performs great. I guess you could say that about the 6870, as far as being compared to the 6850.