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#151 giankulot
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Oh..my..goodness... I have not seen so much arrogance in a loooong time.

1) To everyone who said - I played it for a minute, then uninstalled it - I wonder why you didn't like it.. oh yeah there's 30+ days of content in front of you, lets not explore it! I want to judge a game by the starting area, and with 1/20th of the skills I can get...
It's easier because as a leet nob I want to spend my time doing great things like myspace, not chill out playing WoW :)

2) I play WoW, I have SAVED money by playing it.. One night at home playing WoW on a fri/sat saves like what.. $50(AUS), which is more than 2 months in playtime. So everyone who says its stupid to play, then I guess its so much smarter going out one night throwling your money at something and not remembering the next morning.. Oh snap! I forgot most of you are 14... THATS why its expensive!

3) Graphics - I have to say there are some places such as the barrens and the 'harsher' type areas in the game with not such vibrant textures. Yes. But these areas are only meant for a short amount of gameplay. I would judge the graphics of the game at this moment on outland, and some of the older busy areas like STV.

4) Players in WoW are quite offensive, if you played it religiously and now hate it, it means this: You got Whooped.

Everyone who's raised there hand either got whooped, or when they went to EB their mum didn't buy them WoW, and stuck to tiger woods golf.


The game is great, as many have pointed out you can manage your time with it. Most complaints are 'its too addictive' last time I checked thats a factor that makes a game good.

NOW GO AND BUY YOUR COPY!... or sell some lemonade or some crap until you get the money to do so.

D3RV

I do agree with that sir. Those who said played with just 5mins and left didn't even felt the real fun of the game. And yeah some of them got kicked to the curb! Oh yeah one more thing, to that person who said that lvl 30 can't beat lvl 60, it's common sense man. 60 is higher/stronger than 30!

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#152 Arcadius
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[QUOTE="D3RV"]

Oh..my..goodness... I have not seen so much arrogance in a loooong time.

1) To everyone who said - I played it for a minute, then uninstalled it - I wonder why you didn't like it.. oh yeah there's 30+ days of content in front of you, lets not explore it! I want to judge a game by the starting area, and with 1/20th of the skills I can get...
It's easier because as a leet nob I want to spend my time doing great things like myspace, not chill out playing WoW :)

2) I play WoW, I have SAVED money by playing it.. One night at home playing WoW on a fri/sat saves like what.. $50(AUS), which is more than 2 months in playtime. So everyone who says its stupid to play, then I guess its so much smarter going out one night throwling your money at something and not remembering the next morning.. Oh snap! I forgot most of you are 14... THATS why its expensive!

3) Graphics - I have to say there are some places such as the barrens and the 'harsher' type areas in the game with not such vibrant textures. Yes. But these areas are only meant for a short amount of gameplay. I would judge the graphics of the game at this moment on outland, and some of the older busy areas like STV.

4) Players in WoW are quite offensive, if you played it religiously and now hate it, it means this: You got Whooped.

Everyone who's raised there hand either got whooped, or when they went to EB their mum didn't buy them WoW, and stuck to tiger woods golf.


The game is great, as many have pointed out you can manage your time with it. Most complaints are 'its too addictive' last time I checked thats a factor that makes a game good.

NOW GO AND BUY YOUR COPY!... or sell some lemonade or some crap until you get the money to do so.

giankulot

I do agree with that sir. Those who said played with just 5mins and left didn't even felt the real fun of the game. And yeah some of them got kicked to the curb! Oh yeah one more thing, to that person who said that lvl 30 can't beat lvl 60, it's common sense man. 60 is higher/stronger than 30!

Still, it's the character's abilities that are in play, not the human player. We just got suplanted by a mindless action "queueing" toon! Ah that is just me. I sure hope this Conan game delivers.
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#153 MadExponent
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WoW is pretty horrible. I played it for a little over a month and then canceled it. I played Guild Wars and it must have spoiled me cause WoW just did not do anything for me. It is so bland compared to Guild Wars.
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#154 -Unreal-
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[QUOTE="Nerfing"][QUOTE="-Unreal-"]Hate it all you want, you're all a tiny amount of people that don't like the game, but what matters is how many like the game. However many people don't like the game won't change it, it won't make any impact on the game as it stands because it's by far the biggest MMO game in the world.-Unreal-

Biggest MMO doesn't mean it's the best, It's just the majority of people like Warcraft. Like I've said, WoW's mechanics aren't new, It's seen in alot of MMORPGs. When will you come to the realization that you're a slave to a company that stole Warhammer's game and put their own sleezy name on it. Not talking about WoW, but World of Warcraft: Humans Vs Orcs.

 

It's the biggest MMO game, it's the most successful, it's had the best reviews and awards. Seriously just give it up, the game is better than good. You tell me why you think because it's the biggest MMO doesn't make it the best without making some stupid analogy. Go for it.

Who ever said WoW did change the mechanics, it's an MMO, it never HAD to change the mechanics, they already worked fine. Good luck making money in the world because you don't have a clue.

 You forgot to reply to this Nerfing.

 

Also, Nerfing, what server are you on, and what is your character name and class. 

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#155 _deadrat
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[QUOTE="_deadrat"]

I can see why some people would like it but i just found it boring. I have played through the trial twice since a lot of my friends play it and i wanted to get into it with them, just couldnt. I just felt like i was wasting my time. I enjoyed games like baldurs gate and icewind dale much more because it feels like your playing a novel. My experiance with WOW, while short, involved killing mobs, leveling up so i could go to new areas to kill stronger mobs, and fetch quests.

How good you are depends on your level and equipment with skill making little difference in comparison. For example if you were to get a level 30 and a level 60 to fight the level 60 character will always win. If im playing starcraft or counter-strike against someone its based entirely on skill not on how much time ive put into the game.

I think my friends mainly play it for the social aspect and because it has such an awesome comunity. I dont hate the game i just dont "get" it. The gameplay just lacked the intensity and excitment which i wanted from it.

And to all the people bashing the graphics, i though they were great.

dnuggs40

Of course a lvl 60 would always win against a lvl 30, would it even make sense if they didn't? And for comparision, even in Guild Wars (which I also think is an amazing game) a lvl 20 would almost certainly kill a lvl 17 or below. Now I agree, a 20 vs 20 in GW is deffinetly more skill based, but WoW is not that kind of game. Items *are* a big factor in WoW. But to say that it takes no skill is kinda foolish. I used to kill people with all purples and I had mostly blues (and one purple). But ya, they certainly had an advantage, but i really dont see the issue with that. Why even have great items if they don't make a difference? It's primarily a PvE game afterall. Also, you Starcraft comparision absolutely makes no sense at all. First off, SC is a RTS with no lvls. Counterstrike is a FPS with no lvls either. So how exactly can they be compared to a MMORPG with items and levels? Both of those games are designed to pit two teams of equal footing and test their skill. WoW is a rpg with lvl and items that not only pits skill against skill, but also power and strength of it's team members. Not to mention your lvl 30 vs 60 would never happen in any of the designated battlegrounds (lvl restrictions), and if it did happen outside the lvl 30 was in an area he was not supposed to be in (or playing on a PvP server, in which case that is the name of the game).

It's not as cut and dry as you suggest, and skill is a major factor. You can have all the purples in the world, but if you don't know how to play your class or play on a team, you are going to lose.

"But to say that it takes no skill is kinda foolish."

I didnt say that it required no skill, i said this: "How good you are depends on your level and equipment with skill making little difference in comparison". I know that that skill is important but having a charcter which is 10 levels higher and with better equipment will give a huge advantage. Thats just how the game is made.

"Also, you Starcraft comparision absolutely makes no sense at all".

My point is that starcaft and counter-strike are entirely skill based while WoW is not. The main factor in how effective you are is your characters equipment and level instead of how good you are as a player. I know that if you get two charcters with similar levels and equipment then skill will play a large roll in who is more effective. I just dont want to spend the time getting these high levels and equipment so that i could be effective.

My probelm is not with WoW's gameplay and character system specifically but rather with MMORPGs in general. I have played 20 solid days worth of WoW and its just not my cup of tea. You obviously enjoy it and thats great, so do a heap of my friends. I guess im in the minority about this MMORPG stuff.

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#156 trollfan
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this is a pointless thread, (but then again, many things in life are)

but yeah. i hate world of warcraft :)

it does not have this vast ammount of content you fanboys speak about, once you've done your frist instance there is little or nothing left to see except the color on the ground changes as you progress through the areas, and there are the massive and epic ammount of 3 (yes THREE!) battlegrounds (sealed off arenas) to play PVP in.... uech! the quests are all the same, too.

blizzard when they made the game was so wrong. instead of create a game about war and destruction (which certainly warcraft should be) they made this mess of a care-bare pve game where you make friends and guilds and kill AI-less monsters in a sealed off "safe" dungeon.

their lame excuse for not making destroyable towns was what? they didnt want to let players change the lore of the gameworld?

then why the heck did they create a mmo in that world then!? . I am sure its not according to the lore either that 40 people kill the same dragon every week, or that 8 million people do the exact same favors and quests to the same people in the same order... 

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#157 deactivated-60a353d568bd7
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*Raises two hands up very, very high!*

I got kinda bored reading comments past the second page, so I just skipped to the end to put in my two cents. I disliked WoW from the outset for a number of reasons:

1. Because it charged per month - I really didn't want games to go in that direction and I knew being Blizzard, it was going to be successful, so I resented it. Lo and behold, that has happened and I still resent it.

2. I'm a massive fan of the Warcraft and Starcraft story lines and a MASSIVE fans of both games and the RTS genre itself. Warcraft was for many, many years (I forget when Orcs vs. Humans came out) an RTS franchise and I loved every minute of it. Now they've taken my game and stuck it on some dumbed down, 'appeal to the broadest cross-section of the population possible', boring gameplay massively multiplayer online role-playing game. I feel robbed. I wanted the next chapter in micro-managed, fast paced action Warcraft as an RTS. Like it should have been. This next comment is likely to annoy some people, but I MADE THIS FRANCHISE, along with every other player who picked up WC's 1-3 and their expansions as an RTS. Unfortunately for us, Blizzard went the direction of the MMORPG and it was a runaway success. But could they have made such a successful game without the original three? No. Absolutely not. Not a chance in the world. Sure, they might have made a MMORPG but the juggernaut it became was built on the foundations laid by the pre-existing material in the franchise, not to mention the fans or the placement of Blizzard in the market that resulted from its previous successes (you can't pull of something this ambitious unless you're already well established, well financed and well mangaged and companies build such traits up over time). If you disagree with that, then you're an idiot. So now how about us RTS fans who have already bought three games and their expansions over the years? We don't want to go online, play money for an RPG that we don't want to play. Where the hell is the loyalty to the fans that made you Blizzard?

3. Because of the monster that WoW has become, Blizzard seem absolutely focussed on nothing else besides. I mean, why would they? It doesn't make sense - they are a company in the 21st century - companies exist to make money. At the end of the day, that's what they're there for. WoW is bringing Blizzard astronomical amounts of cash and being the shrewd business that they are, of course it's going to get all their attention. Which brings me to my point: when are we ever going to get anything else? I'll be really sad if WoW and Burning Crusade and the next expansion they release and then WoW II are the only projects that I'm going to see for the next 5 years... Sure there were those rumours that Blizzard were hiring level designers a little while ago but I'm still hanging out for a company exec to say they've got StarCraft II or Warcraft IV in the pipes. I have very little hope for WC IV, considering the story line would necessarily clash with WoW's quests, but StarCraft is one of the all time most popular games ever. The same point applies to the Diablo series, if you can't relate to my RTS point of view. Simply: where's the love?

4. Many, many other points beside but what's the point - it's not like me writing demi-theses on the net is actually going to change anything, so I'll wrap it up here.

But on a side note, I agree with the poster above me re. control of the game world and a few other posters before him. With everything given to you in pre-scripted quests and very 'simple' PvP, non-destructible environments, etc., you really have very little control over what you're doing, only how much time you're willing to put in to do what you did yesterday: quest for loot. Over time, sure, you're going to get better loot and patches and expansions are going to give you even more loot! Better loot! Awesome! But games aren't meant to last forever. They're there for entertainment, to distract you for a few hours a day maybe. Blizzard are smart - paying subscriptions for the loot quest that never ends is smart marketing and they'll be stuffed full of money before the millions of people playing the game realise they've given a lot of their money (recoverable) and a LOT of their time (unrecoverable) doing something that makes no real world contribution (to themselves or others) and has achieved nothing tangible only get their digital character 'loot'. It's a game, it's temporary, it's not real - that's what makes it a game. There's just something 'wrong' with WoW.

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#158 Nerfing
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[QUOTE="-Unreal-"]

[QUOTE="Nerfing"][QUOTE="-Unreal-"]Hate it all you want, you're all a tiny amount of people that don't like the game, but what matters is how many like the game. However many people don't like the game won't change it, it won't make any impact on the game as it stands because it's by far the biggest MMO game in the world.-Unreal-

Biggest MMO doesn't mean it's the best, It's just the majority of people like Warcraft. Like I've said, WoW's mechanics aren't new, It's seen in alot of MMORPGs. When will you come to the realization that you're a slave to a company that stole Warhammer's game and put their own sleezy name on it. Not talking about WoW, but World of Warcraft: Humans Vs Orcs.

 

It's the biggest MMO game, it's the most successful, it's had the best reviews and awards. Seriously just give it up, the game is better than good. You tell me why you think because it's the biggest MMO doesn't make it the best without making some stupid analogy. Go for it.

Who ever said WoW did change the mechanics, it's an MMO, it never HAD to change the mechanics, they already worked fine. Good luck making money in the world because you don't have a clue.

 You forgot to reply to this Nerfing.

 

Also, Nerfing, what server are you on, and what is your character name and class. 

I played a priest and Hunter on Arena 52 server, PvE.
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#159 Letesmetty
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[QUOTE="_deadrat"]

I can see why some people would like it but i just found it boring. I have played through the trial twice since a lot of my friends play it and i wanted to get into it with them, just couldnt. I just felt like i was wasting my time. I enjoyed games like baldurs gate and icewind dale much more because it feels like your playing a novel. My experiance with WOW, while short, involved killing mobs, leveling up so i could go to new areas to kill stronger mobs, and fetch quests.

How good you are depends on your level and equipment with skill making little difference in comparison. For example if you were to get a level 30 and a level 60 to fight the level 60 character will always win. If im playing starcraft or counter-strike against someone its based entirely on skill not on how much time ive put into the game.

I think my friends mainly play it for the social aspect and because it has such an awesome comunity. I dont hate the game i just dont "get" it. The gameplay just lacked the intensity and excitment which i wanted from it.

And to all the people bashing the graphics, i though they were great.

dnuggs40

Of course a lvl 60 would always win against a lvl 30, would it even make sense if they didn't? And for comparision, even in Guild Wars (which I also think is an amazing game) a lvl 20 would almost certainly kill a lvl 17 or below. Now I agree, a 20 vs 20 in GW is deffinetly more skill based, but WoW is not that kind of game. Items *are* a big factor in WoW. But to say that it takes no skill is kinda foolish. I used to kill people with all purples and I had mostly blues (and one purple). But ya, they certainly had an advantage, but i really dont see the issue with that. Why even have great items if they don't make a difference? It's primarily a PvE game afterall. Also, you Starcraft comparision absolutely makes no sense at all. First off, SC is a RTS with no lvls. Counterstrike is a FPS with no lvls either. So how exactly can they be compared to a MMORPG with items and levels? Both of those games are designed to pit two teams of equal footing and test their skill. WoW is a rpg with lvl and items that not only pits skill against skill, but also power and strength of it's team members. Not to mention your lvl 30 vs 60 would never happen in any of the designated battlegrounds (lvl restrictions), and if it did happen outside the lvl 30 was in an area he was not supposed to be in (or playing on a PvP server, in which case that is the name of the game).

It's not as cut and dry as you suggest, and skill is a major factor. You can have all the purples in the world, but if you don't know how to play your class or play on a team, you are going to lose.

Skill isn't a major factor. One level 60 with decent gear has no chance against a level 60 with great gear. In Darkfall (an upcoming MMO), a character that has been played on for years could lose against a first-timer. That's how it *should* be. Gear-based gameplay = Timesink.
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#160 magiclep
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Played it for 2 and a half months. I forced my self to play in the end. When the gametime was over wow was over
just didnt see point  and that little spechial that diabloII has




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#162 D3RV
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Just wanted to post my experiences with guild wars - since everyone is comparing it to WoW.

I played WoW for about 6 months, and then I saw a trailer to guild wars and thought Woah! This looks absolutely awesome. Then I played it but I thought something was lacking. To me finishing an area didn't seem rewarding. Furthermore there's certain areas where the game immediately gets extremely hard and frustrating trying to complete with pugs.
The graphics in the game at parts were great, but all the mobs seemed the same (gameplay wise). Hack a few, for 10 seconds, move onto the next, not a variety of abilities between them. Just seemed every encounter was he same. Mind you in WoW random mobs may be the same, but they generally feel more rewarding.
I played the game and got to 20. After I hit 20 (took me about a week) I thought I'd get into a pvp guild and try it out. I did. I found one major problem. Healing is pretty much endless. You can dps the crap out of a target, and a little amount of healing can undo your lifes work of DPS on that target.

After grinding some PvP - I found the only other thing to do was get epic skills... for pvp. It didn't seem rewarding and generally were a drag to get. And don't even start about itemization. There is a massive lack of items in the game.

That's the negatives - there are positives - The skill selection how you can have 8 skills out at once. I thought that was great and really made you think 'how can I make the most out of my character'. I thought the fact that you can click on the map and instantaneously be transported there was veeery nice. It's a game that's very 'convenient'.

The game had some very good perks. But the game doesn't 'immerse' you like WoW storywise, and terrain wise. That's what made me and many people crazy about WoW the 'feel' you get from it. Much like the feel you get when you play Zelda OOT =]

What you guys find awesome about GW I'd love to know. I'm not flaming the game basing my opinion on nothing. I tried to like the game but it just wasn't right for me. On my points given I want to know what the perks of the game are. Maybe I didn't discover it (I did go through all the non expansion zones).

And for the record, I played WoW for 6 months, GW for about 4-5 weeks. I felt like I 'finished' the game and there was nothing else to do. I then riverted back to WoW for about 1.5 years and now a little bored of it after a little over 2 years.

-Thanks guys, just a WoW'ers point on GW =]

 *Edited for grammer and spelong.

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#163 _deadrat
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Ive been thinking about this for a while and ive figured out the main reason why i couldnt get into WoW, and this is it:

Heaps of my friends had been playing for a while so by the time I started they were all raiding molten core for epic items.  Anyways I just started so my guy was uber weak and had no chance in raiding molten core so I couldnt play with my friends. A few of my mates came back to the starting areas and tried to help me out a bit by taking me to areas where there are more powerful mobs. As we ran through these areas all these uber tiger mobs just started attacking me all the time while they left my friends alone. We decided that playing this way sucked so they just went back to finding epic items and saving up for an epic mount ect... and left me to grind up to their level.

After a few weeks of trying to get to their level i realized that it would take me hundereds of hours. All i wanted to do was play with them but instead the game was forcing me to put hundereds of hours into it before i could. Thats not cool considering i can get one of my mates to play counter-strike with me and we can both be enjoying the game together even though they would have played it far less than me.

 I also remember when 2 of my friends started playing at the same time and one of them was able to put more hours into it so they started flying ahead. It was really frustrating for this other guy because he just couldnt catch up.

I understand that you wouldnt want WoW noobs raiding with you in these high level areas because they would suck and let the team down. I guess its just how the game is made.

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#164 Mycros
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Well, at the risk of sounding like a fanboy, im going to intone "WoW is not a game, it is an expierience".

However, I'm sure you've all heard that at some point, so im going to go one further and explain why, and show what makes the game so great.

First part of WoW is development, just like any other RPG. Your character develops from weak to buff by the end of the game, as expected. But one of the things which makes WoW great is the ability to constantly gauge yourself against others. Ever wondered why people spend so much time on the Molten Core raids? Character Development, and the ability to say that your better than the other guy.

Secondly, the overall "feel" of the game. What i mean by this is the way in which Blizzard has crafted environments and locations to not only feel dramatic ect., but also to feel dynamic. Spend some time on a busy server sitting in Ironforge trying to sell something or looking for an endgame raid and you'll know what i mean. The art style, while not overly impressive, has a Warcraft feel, eg. that grunt looks like a grunt should look, that footman looks like a footman should, ect.

The point I'm going to make is the whole community aspect. WoW promotes this in every way, shape and form. Even if simply out questing your going to meet other people, see what their doing, feel like your in a dynamic community. This is exemplified if you actually bother to take part in the community. Start doing some instances, be nice, and I'm sure that if you enjoy RPG style games you'll enjoy this.

Now I'm not implying that everyone should enjoy this game, but at least appreciate that it is an excellent game in its field, much in the same way someone who doesn't enjoy a FPS appreciates how good Halo is. Even if you don't like playing the game, don't hate it. Appreciate what its done for the industry and gaming in general.

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#165 ElectricNZ
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I hate WoW.
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#166 1carus
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Two of my good friends play WOW, and I can honestly say that although I consider myself to be a nerd, I just can't believe they sit at their computer every single night levelling and playing, in a game that is frankly really starting to piss me off.

It's just wrong the way Blizzard have exploited the lives of so many. Okay, when the game was released, it had a great artisticly pleasing world, with heaps of trains, mounts, and cities to see, that made the world feel alive, but without a story, they've just wacked in the characters from the last games, and made them do pretty much nothing. They've tainted the world now, by now telling you you can "kill" Illidan, and go back in time to see Medivh open the portal.

I mean the whole going back in time thing smacks of "we can't think of any new stories, and since everyone likes the old Warcraft we'll just go back to that". Which brings me back to Blizzard. They are now simply cashing in on the presense of Warcraft and not on the feeble gameplay of the actual game. And don't get me started on all their money making schemes. What the hell happened to Blizzard? It used to be about the damn games, not the money.

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#167 ImDrFreak
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Wow. another "I hate wow" thread Another "I hate wow" poster. Man, it must suck for you that there's a really popular game on the market. It must just keep you up at night with rage. How about this, "MichaeltheCM": 1. Play the games you like 2. Stop trolling
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#168 keith22
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i raisined my hand your turn the game sucks
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#169 BounceDK
Member since 2005 • 7388 Posts
It totally sucks
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#170 666_kiko_666
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WoW sucks!
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#171 therancors
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Yawn.....
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#172 Helixwolf
Member since 2006 • 36 Posts

i personally dont see what the big deal is about WOW. it just doesnt seem that fun and it takes way too long to do anything. i personally hate the game. who agrees? (and all u WOW fans feel free to verbally attack me all u want) :DMichaeltheCM

 I agree with WoW taking so long to do anything, which is one of the reasons why I quit playing before the new expansion came out. IMO it's not too bad of a game all around, just not very good for your causual gamer type that's for sure. For instance, I was doing the high level raids for epic armor which at times took around 2-6hrs in one sitting... and even then your not guaranteed to get anything out of all that time spent. No thanks, I have devoted my time elsewhere.

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#173 noctu
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count me in WoW is nothing more the a sub par cookie cutter mmo made for obese kids that are to lazy to learn and hanfle real games
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#174 Johnny_Rock
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172 posts!  Wow....   so the tally is now...

8,500,000 to 172.  Viva La Revolution!!!!!! 

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#175 Scatsofrango
Member since 2004 • 555 Posts
I don´t like WOW and any MMORPG either. Yeah, I´m a little weirdo.
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#176 dnuggs40
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[QUOTE="dnuggs40"][QUOTE="_deadrat"]

I can see why some people would like it but i just found it boring. I have played through the trial twice since a lot of my friends play it and i wanted to get into it with them, just couldnt. I just felt like i was wasting my time. I enjoyed games like baldurs gate and icewind dale much more because it feels like your playing a novel. My experiance with WOW, while short, involved killing mobs, leveling up so i could go to new areas to kill stronger mobs, and fetch quests.

How good you are depends on your level and equipment with skill making little difference in comparison. For example if you were to get a level 30 and a level 60 to fight the level 60 character will always win. If im playing starcraft or counter-strike against someone its based entirely on skill not on how much time ive put into the game.

I think my friends mainly play it for the social aspect and because it has such an awesome comunity. I dont hate the game i just dont "get" it. The gameplay just lacked the intensity and excitment which i wanted from it.

And to all the people bashing the graphics, i though they were great.

Letesmetty

Of course a lvl 60 would always win against a lvl 30, would it even make sense if they didn't? And for comparision, even in Guild Wars (which I also think is an amazing game) a lvl 20 would almost certainly kill a lvl 17 or below. Now I agree, a 20 vs 20 in GW is deffinetly more skill based, but WoW is not that kind of game. Items *are* a big factor in WoW. But to say that it takes no skill is kinda foolish. I used to kill people with all purples and I had mostly blues (and one purple). But ya, they certainly had an advantage, but i really dont see the issue with that. Why even have great items if they don't make a difference? It's primarily a PvE game afterall. Also, you Starcraft comparision absolutely makes no sense at all. First off, SC is a RTS with no lvls. Counterstrike is a FPS with no lvls either. So how exactly can they be compared to a MMORPG with items and levels? Both of those games are designed to pit two teams of equal footing and test their skill. WoW is a rpg with lvl and items that not only pits skill against skill, but also power and strength of it's team members. Not to mention your lvl 30 vs 60 would never happen in any of the designated battlegrounds (lvl restrictions), and if it did happen outside the lvl 30 was in an area he was not supposed to be in (or playing on a PvP server, in which case that is the name of the game).

It's not as cut and dry as you suggest, and skill is a major factor. You can have all the purples in the world, but if you don't know how to play your class or play on a team, you are going to lose.

Skill isn't a major factor. One level 60 with decent gear has no chance against a level 60 with great gear. In Darkfall (an upcoming MMO), a character that has been played on for years could lose against a first-timer. That's how it *should* be. Gear-based gameplay = Timesink.

Thats absolute baloney. You know it, I know it, and anybody who has ever competed in WoW's pvp knows it. Gear is not the all mighty factor. Myself personally (an I am not even that great) have killed many people decked out in purples, while myself only have blues. Sure they have an advantage, but skill does play a major factor as well.
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#177 BounceDK
Member since 2005 • 7388 Posts

172 posts! Wow.... so the tally is now...

8,500,000 to 172. Viva La Revolution!!!!!!

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Sad little fanboy, why don't you go post in the wow forums instead.
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#178 oscar530
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I hate WoW and not because I like Guild Wars either. Its because it sucks ppl into it.....I had a friend who started playing it around 3 months ago and now he never comes out of his house.
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#179 ufopuller
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Getting sick of hearing about it

 

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#180 krazyorange
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if it were free, WoW would be good
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#181 Nerfing
Member since 2007 • 1471 Posts
[QUOTE="Johnny_Rock"]

172 posts! Wow.... so the tally is now...

8,500,000 to 172. Viva La Revolution!!!!!!

BounceDK
Sad little fanboy, why don't you go post in the wow forums instead.

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#182 XOXIXO
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i guarantee that 90% of people who said they hate WoW in this post have never played it...
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#183 DaPlopz
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I don't like WoW i must admit, but i have played WoW and i played it for a long time. I just got soooooo unbelieveably bored with it. Do this quest do that quest blah balh blah it ended up just blurring into one long nighmare that lasted for nearly 8 months. Got to level 60 done most of the instances but by that time i was bored silly. and i got fed up with all the 13 year olds, keep harasing you for Buffs and or "can you tank for me"

Shame really but there you go. The other down side to WoW is that i have seen this game upset so many of my friend relationships as they get hooked on WoW and then lose there G/F's. 

 

 

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#184 Terry_Foxman
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here here
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#185 Polarskill
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Great what does this topic solve.... nothing. You honestly don't have to play WOW if you don't want to. So stop crying becasue you cant play it. *world smallest violin*

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#186 giankulot
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I don't like WoW i must admit, but i have played WoW and i played it for a long time. I just got soooooo unbelieveably bored with it. Do this quest do that quest blah balh blah it ended up just blurring into one long nighmare that lasted for nearly 8 months. Got to level 60 done most of the instances but by that time i was bored silly. and i got fed up with all the 13 year olds, keep harasing you for Buffs and or "can you tank for me"

Shame really but there you go. The other down side to WoW is that i have seen this game upset so many of my friend relationships as they get hooked on WoW and then lose there G/F's.

DaPlopz

Well you have a point there. Yeah, there are lots of kid in WOW. But what game doesn't? IMO, And about losing friend/GF relationship, I think you shouldn't be friends/GF in the first place? If they like WOW then let them be. Ruining relationships for a game is really pathetic.

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#187 -sharp-shooter-
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raises hand high
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#188 BounceDK
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i guarantee that 90% of people who said they hate WoW in this post have never played it...XOXIXO
Before I say something sucks, I do in fact try it out first. A 60 paladin with a few epics and I even got around to getting my epic mount. It still sucks. Maybe it's because I chose to play as a paladin, but that just shows you how little Bliz actually care about their customers. Hey, as long as the cash keeps rolling in, why bother? ..
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#189 -Unreal-
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[QUOTE="-Unreal-"][QUOTE="-Unreal-"]

[QUOTE="Nerfing"][QUOTE="-Unreal-"]Hate it all you want, you're all a tiny amount of people that don't like the game, but what matters is how many like the game. However many people don't like the game won't change it, it won't make any impact on the game as it stands because it's by far the biggest MMO game in the world.Nerfing

Biggest MMO doesn't mean it's the best, It's just the majority of people like Warcraft. Like I've said, WoW's mechanics aren't new, It's seen in alot of MMORPGs. When will you come to the realization that you're a slave to a company that stole Warhammer's game and put their own sleezy name on it. Not talking about WoW, but World of Warcraft: Humans Vs Orcs.

 

It's the biggest MMO game, it's the most successful, it's had the best reviews and awards. Seriously just give it up, the game is better than good. You tell me why you think because it's the biggest MMO doesn't make it the best without making some stupid analogy. Go for it.

Who ever said WoW did change the mechanics, it's an MMO, it never HAD to change the mechanics, they already worked fine. Good luck making money in the world because you don't have a clue.

You forgot to reply to this Nerfing.

 

Also, Nerfing, what server are you on, and what is your character name and class.

I played a priest and Hunter on Arena 52 server, PvE.

 

Read it again...

 What is your character's name?

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#190 Nerfing
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[QUOTE="Nerfing"][QUOTE="-Unreal-"][QUOTE="-Unreal-"]

[QUOTE="Nerfing"][QUOTE="-Unreal-"]Hate it all you want, you're all a tiny amount of people that don't like the game, but what matters is how many like the game. However many people don't like the game won't change it, it won't make any impact on the game as it stands because it's by far the biggest MMO game in the world.-Unreal-

Biggest MMO doesn't mean it's the best, It's just the majority of people like Warcraft. Like I've said, WoW's mechanics aren't new, It's seen in alot of MMORPGs. When will you come to the realization that you're a slave to a company that stole Warhammer's game and put their own sleezy name on it. Not talking about WoW, but World of Warcraft: Humans Vs Orcs.

 

It's the biggest MMO game, it's the most successful, it's had the best reviews and awards. Seriously just give it up, the game is better than good. You tell me why you think because it's the biggest MMO doesn't make it the best without making some stupid analogy. Go for it.

Who ever said WoW did change the mechanics, it's an MMO, it never HAD to change the mechanics, they already worked fine. Good luck making money in the world because you don't have a clue.

You forgot to reply to this Nerfing.

 

Also, Nerfing, what server are you on, and what is your character name and class.

I played a priest and Hunter on Arena 52 server, PvE.

 

Read it again...

 What is your character's name?

I honestly don't remember and don't care.
[QUOTE="XOXIXO"]i guarantee that 90% of people who said they hate WoW in this post have never played it...BounceDK
Before I say something sucks, I do in fact try it out first. A 60 paladin with a few epics and I even got around to getting my epic mount. It still sucks. Maybe it's because I chose to play as a paladin, but that just shows you how little Bliz actually care about their customers. Hey, as long as the cash keeps rolling in, why bother? ..

Same here. Epic mounts which take you about almost a week raising up the gold to get 100% ground speed, what a waste and I had three, lol.
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#191 -Unreal-
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[QUOTE="-Unreal-"][QUOTE="Nerfing"][QUOTE="-Unreal-"][QUOTE="-Unreal-"]

[QUOTE="Nerfing"][QUOTE="-Unreal-"]Hate it all you want, you're all a tiny amount of people that don't like the game, but what matters is how many like the game. However many people don't like the game won't change it, it won't make any impact on the game as it stands because it's by far the biggest MMO game in the world.Nerfing

Biggest MMO doesn't mean it's the best, It's just the majority of people like Warcraft. Like I've said, WoW's mechanics aren't new, It's seen in alot of MMORPGs. When will you come to the realization that you're a slave to a company that stole Warhammer's game and put their own sleezy name on it. Not talking about WoW, but World of Warcraft: Humans Vs Orcs.

 

It's the biggest MMO game, it's the most successful, it's had the best reviews and awards. Seriously just give it up, the game is better than good. You tell me why you think because it's the biggest MMO doesn't make it the best without making some stupid analogy. Go for it.

Who ever said WoW did change the mechanics, it's an MMO, it never HAD to change the mechanics, they already worked fine. Good luck making money in the world because you don't have a clue.

You forgot to reply to this Nerfing.

 

Also, Nerfing, what server are you on, and what is your character name and class.

I played a priest and Hunter on Arena 52 server, PvE.

 

Read it again...

What is your character's name?

I honestly don't remember and don't care.

 

Yeah I didn't think so. Total BS. You expect me to believe you forgot your character name in WoW? I don't think you do. Anyone can say they had X class on Y realm.

Now go away and stop your obsessive WoW hating. It's in every single WoW thread I've read. You are there to cry about something WoW related. Why not just do what everyone else that doesn't like it does, don't play it.

 

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#192 Nerfing
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[QUOTE="Nerfing"][QUOTE="-Unreal-"][QUOTE="Nerfing"][QUOTE="-Unreal-"][QUOTE="-Unreal-"]

[QUOTE="Nerfing"][QUOTE="-Unreal-"]Hate it all you want, you're all a tiny amount of people that don't like the game, but what matters is how many like the game. However many people don't like the game won't change it, it won't make any impact on the game as it stands because it's by far the biggest MMO game in the world.-Unreal-

Biggest MMO doesn't mean it's the best, It's just the majority of people like Warcraft. Like I've said, WoW's mechanics aren't new, It's seen in alot of MMORPGs. When will you come to the realization that you're a slave to a company that stole Warhammer's game and put their own sleezy name on it. Not talking about WoW, but World of Warcraft: Humans Vs Orcs.

 

It's the biggest MMO game, it's the most successful, it's had the best reviews and awards. Seriously just give it up, the game is better than good. You tell me why you think because it's the biggest MMO doesn't make it the best without making some stupid analogy. Go for it.

Who ever said WoW did change the mechanics, it's an MMO, it never HAD to change the mechanics, they already worked fine. Good luck making money in the world because you don't have a clue.

You forgot to reply to this Nerfing.

 

Also, Nerfing, what server are you on, and what is your character name and class.

I played a priest and Hunter on Arena 52 server, PvE.

 

Read it again...

What is your character's name?

I honestly don't remember and don't care.

 

Yeah I didn't think so. Total BS. You expect me to believe you forgot your character name in WoW? I don't think you do. Anyone can say they had X class on Y realm.

Now go away and stop your obsessive WoW hating. It's in every single WoW thread I've read. You are there to cry about something WoW related. Why not just do what everyone else that doesn't like it does, don't play it.

 

Why are following every single post I do? Go back to WoW forums if you can't take the heat.
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#193 BounceDK
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Unreal is a fanboy too, so don't bother :)
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#194 i_r_mimi
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i personaly hate wow :|
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#195 warriorlax1234
Member since 2003 • 338 Posts
I raise my hand both hands actually........ Master card rip-off: Buy world of warcraft with a 60 day card- 49 bucks Getting it home and playing all the time- your life and more money Realizing once you reach your max level that all of your friends hate you, you have none left, your still a virgin and you have no life: priceless Remember WoW turns you into a salve, and your paying blizzard for your slave work.......
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#196 punkrocklocal
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I am a graphics whore so I hate it.
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#197 cokpolian
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I absolutly hate WoW, at first I hated it for no reason, Then I actually played it. Unistalled it literally 5 minutes later. Thanks for making this topic, it is truely neededDrizzt_xx
wow you are some moron... playing WoW for 5 minutes before quitting it? it takes that long to start your first quest.
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#198 Nerfing
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Unreal is a fanboy too, so don't bother :)BounceDK
Aye. I think he's been trying to ban me lately, lol.
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#199 1carus
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[QUOTE="Johnny_Rock"]

172 posts! Wow.... so the tally is now...

8,500,000 to 172. Viva La Revolution!!!!!!

BounceDK

Sad little fanboy, why don't you go post in the wow forums instead.

Uuhh, because I wonder if everyone there likes it? Clearly we'll just get a bunch of biast opinions.

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#200 eitremn
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well i've played this game to lvl 64 and i just can't bring myself to play it for another minute.  it is such a boring game, i kept thinking that it would get better, but it never does.  the expansion was fun for a while but after realizing that yet again it's all the same crap over and over again i got extremely bored of it.  so i /raise both my hands!!!