Realistic PSU calculation?

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#1 stoutlad
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So my original PSU for my pc died a few days ago and I've been looking to replace it. The main components in my pc are as follows:

AMD Phenom 9600

2x 2 Gb DDR2 RAM

ATI HD 4850

ASUS M3A mobo

I also have 2 DVD drives, a single 7200 rpm hdd,and my mouse is powered via USB. The calculator at this website ( http://extreme.outervision.com/PSUEngine ) tells me that a system with my specs only requires a PSU with 304 watts. However I was at a hardware store yesterday where a salesman told me I wanted 550 watts bare minimum, and recommended that I go for 600. Which of the two seems more plausible? I am by no means an expert on power issues.

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#2 04dcarraher
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It depends on the 12v rail. You want something like this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139004

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#3 stoutlad
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Would 550w be sufficient? I was reading the other thread about the Amd Kuma and I'm seeing the "rails" mentioned a lot. Apparently that is a limiting factor? Am I really looking for wattage here or the output on the rails? I would be figuring this out on my own if I had the slightest idea what I was doing :/ I'm guessing that website's calculator wasn't accurate.

On a side note, I found out my old PSU was a measly 230w, probably explaining why it died on me. However, it ran my hardware fine for over 6 months.

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#4 Ikavnieks
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If the rails are good, for example. It'd be better to have a 500w Good brand with decent voltages, rather than a 700w no brander with rubbish voltage.
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#5 stoutlad
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I guess what I'm trying to get at is what exactly do I need to be looking for in terms of a replacement? What specs (wattage, +12v rail etc) are sufficient for the hardware I listed? If there is a way for me to figure it out on my own, please let me know and I'll stop pestering you :P .
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#6 04dcarraher
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When you look at psus look at. The amperes total of the psu, 1 powerful rail is better then multiple smaller ones, also The efficenty rating 70%+ is good, and then you look at total watts and how many watts the 12v rail can pump out, and you always want 100 or so more watts of power extra for future upgrades and the aging of the psu. Your system at full load wont go above 400 watts but on the 12v rail you will need around 30A to run the whole system, Newer ATI cards use less power through the motherboard compared to Nvidia. The Psu I posted above will run you system without a issue.
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#7 Ikavnieks
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Something such as this: Here

Although 650W would be more than enough, If you cant afford that, try looking for a 500W corsair.

Sorry Didn't see the power supply the other guy suggested.

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#8 stoutlad
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Do those PSUs have plenty of molex connectors? I'm not sure, but I don't think my optical drives or hdd have a sata connection. Antiquated I guess. They do however have the 4 pin molex connections and the fat ribbon-wired IDE (?) which is what was powering them previously. I just don't want to make a purchase only to find out that it doesn't have what I need.
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#9 ajkalan
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That PSU calculator seems to be pretty close to what thevariousbenchmarkssay. I power a system similar to yours (Phenom II 940 and power-inefficient HD 4830) with a Corsair 520HX without any problems, and I used to run it with a 380W Antec Earthwatts, also without problem (except for the fan noise). If you planned to never swap out your processor or graphics card with higher-wattage products, you could easily make do with something like a high-quality 400W PSU (this one, for example). However, if you think you'll get components that suck up a lot more electricity than what you currently use, then a high-quality ~550-600W power supply would serve you well.

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#10 stoutlad
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I'm not out to get a future proof PSU at the moment. I have a few months at home before I will be off on business for over a year, so I'm sure technology will be much cheaper when I get back. So I'm more or less just looking to find what will get me by for that time period but not be underpowering any of the components. AKA, I don't want to reach too deep in my pockets for something that will be a pittance when I get back.