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#1 johnnybonanza
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I found a prebuilt pc

2gb ram , AMD Athlon 4400 (2.3ghz), ATI Radeon X 1200 integrated graphics (is it possible to replace this graphics card with the 8800 gt, or will it be difficult)

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#2 Mayhem48
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I found a prebuilt pc

2gb ram , AMD Athlon 4400 (2.3ghz), ATI Radeon X 1200 integrated graphics (is it possible to replace this graphics card with the 8800 gt, or will it be difficult)

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integrated graphics is just the GPU soldered to the motherboard that shares ram with system ram, unless the motherboard has PCI-E 2.0 or X16 slots you cannot install an 8800GT, considering its a pre-built i doubt it has those cards slots but you should check. It would be impossible to solder a g92 (GPU in the 8800GT) to the motherboard after removing the integrated gpu.

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#3 muirplayer
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No, you can't "replace" it. You do have the option to buy a videocard though if you have the proper slot for it.
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#4 yoyo462001
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[QUOTE="johnnybonanza"]

I found a prebuilt pc

2gb ram , AMD Athlon 4400 (2.3ghz), ATI Radeon X 1200 integrated graphics (is it possible to replace this graphics card with the 8800 gt, or will it be difficult)

Mayhem48

integrated graphics is just the GPU soldered to the motherboard that shares ram with system ram, unless the motherboard has PCI-E 2.0 or X16 slots you cannot install an 8800GT, considering its a pre-built i doubt it has those cards slots but you should check. It would be impossible to solder a g92 (GPU in the 8800GT) to the motherboard after removing the integrated gpu.

what are you on about?most pre-builts come with a PCI-Ex16 slot, its not that you have to worry about its if there's enough space or if the power supply is adequate. and theres no way hes doing any soldering at all its literally impossible to sold a desktop chip to a motherboard.
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#5 RayvinAzn
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iconsidering its a pre-built i doubt it has those cards slots but you should check. It would be impossible to solder a g92 (GPU in the 8800GT) to the motherboard after removing the integrated gpu.

Mayhem48

What kind of weird crap is this? Considering the fact that the processor is an AM2 chip (the X2 4400+ for 939 was a Toledo-core 2.2GHz chip, not 2.3GHz) which weren't released until 2006 (2 years after PCI-e came out), and that the X1200 is part of the 690V chipset that was released in 2007 (3 years after PCI-e came out), the odds of this board having the appropriate graphics slot are 100%. I don't even know why you brought up soldering a discreet graphics core to a motherboard, that makes no sense.

The most difficult part of the whole procedure will be ensuring that the graphics card physically fits and that your power supply is up to snuff for a high-end graphics card like the 8800GT.

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#6 Mayhem48
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[QUOTE="Mayhem48"][QUOTE="johnnybonanza"]

I found a prebuilt pc

2gb ram , AMD Athlon 4400 (2.3ghz), ATI Radeon X 1200 integrated graphics (is it possible to replace this graphics card with the 8800 gt, or will it be difficult)

yoyo462001

integrated graphics is just the GPU soldered to the motherboard that shares ram with system ram, unless the motherboard has PCI-E 2.0 or X16 slots you cannot install an 8800GT, considering its a pre-built i doubt it has those cards slots but you should check. It would be impossible to solder a g92 (GPU in the 8800GT) to the motherboard after removing the integrated gpu.

what are you on about?most pre-builts come with a PCI-Ex16 slot, its not that you have to worry about its if there's enough space or if the power supply is adequate. and theres no way hes doing any soldering at all its literally impossible to sold a desktop chip to a motherboard.

Oh ok its just that iv never had a pre-built PC and the people i have known to have one didn't have any slots for a graphics card. Just to make sure pre-built = brands like dell, and not a computer that gets built for you? The only reason i mention soldering is because integrated graphics is the gpu soldered to the mobo and not a separate graphics card, just so TC knew, obviously not something to consider.
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There has been a ton of bad information bandied about in this thread in the few comments it has garnered. However, it is a fact that HP and Sony continued selling crippled PCs without any video bus slots after Dell cut way back on their own similarly crippled offerings. Part of the reason Dell was the top seller may have been due to its willingness, in the AGP era, to foist off such cheap crap as a real PC. HP is now the biggest seller, and they sell several system lines in enclosures too small for any but the very smallest of add-on cards, using a riser system. I believe that the smallest such are once again being sold with nothing more than a "plain PCI" slot.

Within the past couple of months, I was gifted with the salvaged components from just such a cheapie, including the Celeron CPU, the no- PCIe mainboard, optical drives, etc. I'll photograph that worthless MB for anyone's edification, if desired.

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#9 luamhtrad
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Within the past couple of months, I was gifted with the salvaged components from just such a cheapie, including the Celeron CPU, the no- PCIe mainboard, optical drives, etc. I'll photograph that worthless MB for anyone's edification, if desired. Kiwi_1

I WANT PICS!! :P

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#10 GodLovesDead
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It depends entirely on the motherboard. If it has a spare PCI-E 16x then you're good. You then need to make sure your power supply is good enough and if it'll fit in the case.
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#11 Kiwi_1
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integrated graphics is just the GPU soldered to the motherboard that shares ram with system ram

Mayhem48

Onboard video chips are buried within one of the two "ASICs" that make up a mainboard's "chipset". The video isn't separate, it's included, usually within the one called a "Southbridge" on an Intel-based system. One of the worst aspects of using an IGP is the speed of the main memory tends to be far slower than that used as dedicated VRAM on real video cards.

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#12 ch5richards
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My buddy had an emachine, that the motherboard was designed to have a PCIe slot, but was either removed, or more likely never put on.

This is the board (http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/1991/augsburg915gv5lg.jpg) his came with, it's hard to see, but you can see where the PCIe is supposed to be. I don't think this is common, and this was a couple of years back, so it might not be done at all anymore.