Risen reviewed - and our own first impressions

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#1 Jinroh_basic
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Saw this over at SW and thought you guys might be interested. apparently a German mag has reviewed the game, giving it a score of 86 and calling it, ahem, "ein sehr gutes Rollenspiel". i don't know about you, but i like the sound of that. :D

so are you hyped or are you HYPED?

EDIT - check out the extremely informative review on World of Risen here.

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#2 Jinroh_basic
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found this after digging around. another encouraging piece of news.

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#3 madrocketeer  Online
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"ein sehr gutes Rollenspiel" (a very good role-playing game), heh? I'm interested.
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#4 StrawberryHill
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I've definitely got my eye on the game. I like the Gothic games.

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#5 dakan45
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Ask me it will propably be like gothic 2, similat combat and mosnter ai atleast... I dont thin its gonna be anything amzaning but not total crap either, basicly a good game nothing amazing, it will propably also be buggy. Anyway this is what i figure out from this review and my experience in gaming.
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#6 190586385885857957282413308806
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good. i got about $60 in best buy certificates and i guess this is what i'll be picking up
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#7 illmatic87
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if someone said "ein sehr gutes Rollenspiel!" to me I would assume they are giving me the flame. But this is good news, cursed i havent played a piranha bites game and i was waiting for the review, looks like I may have to import this after all.
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#8 Jinroh_basic
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although i'm quite interested in this title, i'll admit that i have doubts about certain aspects of the game. to begin with, calling it a successor to the Gothic franchise may be an understatement - chances are good that Risen will be EXTREMELY similar to the Gothic games, especially G3. whether that's a good thing or not remains to be seen, but i expect Risen to inherit a good amount of design flaws, and i'm not even talking about the glitches and bugs.

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#9 robertlie
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A Norwegian website writes that Risen is "one of the best RPGs ever!" and gives it a 9/10. The reviewers on this site are really good imo, so im pretty hyped.

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#10 Jinroh_basic
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care to tell us more about the review?

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#11 robertlie
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Sure!

The reviewer points out the obvious Gothic style, but he claims that Risen is "better, much better." The story is excellent and the gameplay and graphics are too. He claims that the game somtimes is kinda on the difficult side, but that the difficulty just adds more sense of accomplishment when you have defeated your enemy...

English voiceovers are great, so thats good new for the rest of the world hehe. Much better then previous games where some people claim that the original voices (in german) where much better.

The levelling system is similar to other piranha bytes rpgs. But much more well-made and easy to use then previous games.

Not really much more to report on this review, it basically just praises the hell outta the game, its atmosphere, story, gameplay, action etc.. He points out that you`ll need a pretty decent somputer to run the game smoothly

Here is a link to the review. It`s in norwegian, but i guess the translators work well these days :)

http://gamer.no/article.php?articleId=22472&page=3

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#12 robertlie
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BTW forgot to mention that the reviewer didnt experience any bugs or glitches that degraded the experience. Yay!

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#13 illmatic87
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Didnt want to start a new thread but I stumbled across an english review if anyone is interested, the full review is in the PCGZine #34

http://www.gamerzines.com/pc/reviews/risen.html

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#14 naval
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Reviews certainly look encouraging --- no major bugs is pretty nice. "Combat feels a little unresponsive using one button to attack and one to defend. It's simple and sometimes fails to enthral but as you gain access to magic it's really when the game comes into it's own." -- Looks like combat is still crappy "Risen tries very hard to dissuade you from making binary choices and you'll be making them very often" -- The CnC Part does looks good though
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#15 Gamerz1569
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No bugs? No major glitches? Its a miracle :o maybe Pirahna Bytes really did learn their lesson from their previous games. Definite pick up for me, now all I have to do is "persuade" my local retailer to sell it to me early :D

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#16 robertlie
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I`m gonna wait for a few more reviews, but i think im already pretty convinced that Risen is worth buying. Right now the reviews i`v read are disagreeing on the combat, where one says that it is really challenging and fun with good enemy AI etc, and the other review says it`s "ok".

Can`t wait for the demo to come out so i can find out for myself. Although im a "story is most important" kinda guy, lame combat really just ruin alot of the experience.

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#17 Baranga
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I don't understand these devs that make crappy interfaces and controls.

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#18 dnuggs40
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Sounds good...and can't wait! Regarding crappy interfaces and controls...yeah Gothic is known for that. But they are also known for being able to craft richly detailed worlds that feel alive and fun to explore.
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Sounds good...and can't wait! Regarding crappy interfaces and controls...yeah Gothic is known for that. But they are also known for being able to craft richly detailed worlds that feel alive and fun to explore. dnuggs40
Exactly what I was going to say. And I prefer this than a very polished glossy boring world. :P
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#20 MyopicCanadian
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I must say, I have been hesitantly optimistic about this game... I wasn't really sure what to expect. I assumed it was going to be another good "idea" wrapped around a clunky game, but it sounds a lot better than that so far. Good news :)

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#21 Jinroh_basic
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all right boys and girls! heads up! i just discovered a series of actual gameplay footages on youtube, which show the early part of the game. check it out.

as you can see, it is indeed VERY similar to G3 - from visual to interface to actual gameplay mechanics. the game seems to run better than G3 tho.

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#22 dnuggs40
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Looks great! What's the release date?
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#23 Jinroh_basic
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October 6 worldwide. :)

I think Piranha Bytes is actually using the same engine that powers G3, only with various modifications. this would explain why PB managed to wrap this up in 2 years.

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#24 dnuggs40
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Oh crap! I had no idea it was so close. Well...I know what I'll be buying that day :)

*edit*

Just saw "Gothic 4: Arcania" on the related videos tab...what is that? I'm confused...are there 2 gothic games coming out?

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#25 The_PC_Gamer
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Not sure about this one, waiting for a few more reviews

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#26 Baranga
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Oh crap! I had no idea it was so close. Well...I know what I'll be buying that day :)

*edit*

Just saw "Gothic 4: Arcania" on the related videos tab...what is that? I'm confused...are there 2 gothic games coming out?

dnuggs40

Risen is not a Gothic game.

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#27 Jinroh_basic
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iirc, Arcania is the fourth and the only Gothic game that's being developed. PB is no longer working on the franchise after it split with Jowood, remember?

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#28 dnuggs40
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Maybe I am confused...but isn't Risen made by the people who made Gothic?
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#29 spektor_21000
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Oh crap! I had no idea it was so close. Well...I know what I'll be buying that day :)

*edit*

Just saw "Gothic 4: Arcania" on the related videos tab...what is that? I'm confused...are there 2 gothic games coming out?

dnuggs40

From what i remember reading, The original developers of the gothic series are making Risen. Thats why many consider it as the spiritual successor of gothic even though its a new IP.

Gothic 4: Arcania is being developed by another team.

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#30 dnuggs40
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[QUOTE="dnuggs40"]

Oh crap! I had no idea it was so close. Well...I know what I'll be buying that day :)

*edit*

Just saw "Gothic 4: Arcania" on the related videos tab...what is that? I'm confused...are there 2 gothic games coming out?

spektor_21000

From what i remember reading, The original developers of the gothic series are making Risen. Thats why many consider it as the spiritual successor of gothic even though its a new IP.

Gothic 4: Arcania is being developed by another team.

Ah ok...that's why I thought it was a Gothic game. I remember reading something like that too...though the game fell off my radar so I forgot the details. Glad it's coming out so soon :)
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#31 Charles_Dickens
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LOL!

What an original way to begin the game. "You awake on a sandy beach to discover that you're the only passenger who survived the shipwreck... your memory has been erased... who are you, what's your purpose... explore the island and try to discover the answer to these mysterious riddles... but first arm yourself... that stick over there looks like it's made of sturdy construction..."

And people had the cojones to suggest that this was going to be better than Dragon Age?

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#32 Baranga
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LOL!

What an original way to begin the game. "You awake on a sandy beach to discover that you're the only passenger who survived the shipwreck... your memory has been erased... who are you, what's your purpose... explore the island and try to discover the answer to these mysterious riddles... but first arm yourself... that stick over there looks like it's made of sturdy construction..."

And people had the cojones to suggest that this was going to be better than Dragon Age?

Charles_Dickens

Of course it's going to be better. I'm yet to see a BioWare or Bethesda game better than the Gothic games.

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#33 dnuggs40
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What does that have to do with how good the game is? Gothic games were always about the world the players are given to explore...which are almost unparalleled. It's also about choices and how you go about progressing through the game's story and challenges.
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LOL!

What an original way to begin the game. "You awake on a sandy beach to discover that you're the only passenger who survived the shipwreck... your memory has been erased... who are you, what's your purpose... explore the island and try to discover the answer to these mysterious riddles... but first arm yourself... that stick over there looks like it's made of sturdy construction..."

And people had the cojones to suggest that this was going to be better than Dragon Age?

Charles_Dickens

yes, it's cliche - EXACTLY like what is revealed so far on Dragon Age. so i must say i don't know what you're talking about.

but of course, you're welcome to make up your own mind.

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#35 L1D3N
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I watched some gameplay on YouTube and it looks like this is gonna be something worth checking out.

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#36 TheCrazed420
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Oh crap! I had no idea it was so close. Well...I know what I'll be buying that day :)

*edit*

Just saw "Gothic 4: Arcania" on the related videos tab...what is that? I'm confused...are there 2 gothic games coming out?

dnuggs40

STAY AWAY!!! Its made by the same folks who made the G3 expansion --- utter crap.

Watching those Youtube videos...looks good but I hope that was running on a bad PC cause it was stuttering quite a bit.

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[QUOTE="Charles_Dickens"]

LOL!

What an original way to begin the game. "You awake on a sandy beach to discover that you're the only passenger who survived the shipwreck... your memory has been erased... who are you, what's your purpose... explore the island and try to discover the answer to these mysterious riddles... but first arm yourself... that stick over there looks like it's made of sturdy construction..."

And people had the cojones to suggest that this was going to be better than Dragon Age?

This coming from the person who praises Drakensang so much...Drakensang was good, even great wasnt it? But it was cliched as all hell wasnt it? Wait till you actually play the game before knocking it.
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#38 dnuggs40
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[QUOTE="dnuggs40"]

Oh crap! I had no idea it was so close. Well...I know what I'll be buying that day :)

*edit*

Just saw "Gothic 4: Arcania" on the related videos tab...what is that? I'm confused...are there 2 gothic games coming out?

TheCrazed420

STAY AWAY!!! Its made by the same folks who made the G3 expansion --- utter crap.

Watching those Youtube videos...looks good but I hope that was running on a bad PC cause it was stuttering quite a bit.

I have noticed that about a lot of game videos lately...
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#39 naval
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[QUOTE="dnuggs40"]

Oh crap! I had no idea it was so close. Well...I know what I'll be buying that day :)

*edit*

Just saw "Gothic 4: Arcania" on the related videos tab...what is that? I'm confused...are there 2 gothic games coming out?

TheCrazed420

STAY AWAY!!! Its made by the same folks who made the G3 expansion --- utter crap.

Watching those Youtube videos...looks good but I hope that was running on a bad PC cause it was stuttering quite a bit.

no, they are different people .. Gothic 4 is being made by Spellbound entertainment who make Desperadoes game and Robin hood legend of Sherwood. Not impressive credentials for an rpg game, but not as crappy as saying that they made Gothic 3 expnasion :P
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#40 TheCrazed420
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[QUOTE="naval"][QUOTE="TheCrazed420"]

[QUOTE="dnuggs40"]

Oh crap! I had no idea it was so close. Well...I know what I'll be buying that day :)

*edit*

Just saw "Gothic 4: Arcania" on the related videos tab...what is that? I'm confused...are there 2 gothic games coming out?

STAY AWAY!!! Its made by the same folks who made the G3 expansion --- utter crap.

Watching those Youtube videos...looks good but I hope that was running on a bad PC cause it was stuttering quite a bit.

no, they are different people .. Gothic 4 is being made by Spellbound entertainment who make Desperadoes game and Robin hood legend of Sherwood. Not impressive credentials for an rpg game, but not as crappy as saying that they made Gothic 3 expnasion :P

Ah, my mistake. Well, anything is better than whoever made that travesty...:)
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#43 dakan45
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Hmm ill put it this way: If the control is bad it will kill the gameplay, but if the monsters respawn after a while and i can kill them again to level up, then i can do away with the bad combat controls and play the game as an rpg that you level up in order to keep winning.
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#44 Jinroh_basic
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i'm bringing this up again to show you World of Risen's very own review. This is likely to be the most in-depth review you'll ever come across for this game, so if you've yet to make up your mind about Risen, i believe you will after reading this. :)

definitely check out the technical section. apparently the performance depends heavily on CPU, which is not really a good news for the average gamers ( not me, that much i know ).

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#45 dakan45
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Nice know i know its an improved mix of gothic 2 and gothic 3
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#46 ShimmerMan
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It will probably be just like the Gothic series. A decent RPG wrapped in crap optimization, buggy code and ***** animations. If these guys aren't making any money making these games they should just stop because they just recycling the same **** for almost a decade now.

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#47 dakan45
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It will probably be just like the Gothic series. A decent RPG wrapped in crap optimization, buggy code and ***** animations. If these guys aren't making any money making these games they should just stop because they just recycling the same **** for almost a decade now.

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I know what you mean but they aint the only ones....Seriously the monster ai in Risen is the same as the very first gothic, i guess thats because thats how the ai programmers now how to make the ai.
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#48 Jinroh_basic
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It will probably be just like the Gothic series. A decent RPG wrapped in crap optimization, buggy code and ***** animations. If these guys aren't making any money making these games they should just stop because they just recycling the same **** for almost a decade now.

ShimmerMan

i fully disagree. firstly, Gothic games definitely sell - maybe not so much in North America but over at Europe it's THE franchise. the World of Risen website is enough proof to show how hotly anticipated it is. secondly, i wouldn't say Piranha Bytes has been "recycling" the same content - it's more like they opt to stay true to their core values when it comes to making rpgs. and that's definitely respectable, especially in an age when rpgs have had to rely on excessive sex and gore to be appealing. lastly, if you would spend a few moment to read the review, you'd realise that Risen is the most polish PB game to date.

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#49 dakan45
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I do hope it is polished.
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#50 teardropmina
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Jinroh, is there any solid detail on the engine for Risen?

if it's as you said, the modified Gothic 3, then I think this game will be quite polished by release. Gothic 3 has been patched up pretty well and PB must've figured out the coding issues by now.

this said...I'm not really interested in this game since I'm not into solo RPG and had not much fun playing previous Gothic games. Solo CRPG has to be as good as VtMB to be appealing to me.