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#101 Geminon
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[QUOTE="Geminon"][QUOTE="airshocker"]

It has a lot to do with hardware. Are you stupid? Obviously bugs will play SOME part, but with decent hardware the game runs fine after using some of these fixes. If you weren't such a whining bitch you might actually find them.

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enjoy the mod report.... i dont have the time or energy for your petty dick wagging contest.

none of what he said is moddable....so...enjoy looking stupid and insecure I guess

trolling is moddable... so, enjoy your report as well. so tired of the stupidity on these forums.
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#102 Geminon
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[QUOTE="uninspiredcup"]

Going back to Shogun 2. Maybe after 6 months of patches and some expansions this will get better, at the moment, i'm done with it. Too much bother. Get none of this shit and a better game with Shogun 2.wis3boi

a game that had just as many if not more bugs when it released....United States of Amnesia

so now you are insulting peoples nationality? wow...
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#103 Wasdie  Moderator
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[QUOTE="wis3boi"][QUOTE="Geminon"] enjoy the mod report.... i dont have the time or energy for your petty dick wagging contest.Geminon
none of what he said is moddable....so...enjoy looking stupid and insecure I guess

trolling is moddable... so, enjoy your report as well. so tired of the stupidity on these forums.

Trolling hasn't been moddable for at least a year now.

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#104 deactivated-5a9b3f32ef4e9
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Do you have a million background processes running or something? If you can't run this game above medium, then there's something seriously wrong with your PC dude. I'd consider driver sweeping or something. Or are you trying to play the game with Eyefinity on 3 1600p monitors?KHAndAnime
I've been playing it on High and it seems to be playable, though it does drop to 30 sometimes in huge battles. And nope, one 1920x1080 monitor. All my other games run fine.

 

I'm playing multiplayer battles btw, not SP campaign.

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#105 Swiftstrike5
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Here's my opinion after a few hours. The Awesome: -Every point on campaign map represents a battle map. When creating a custom battle, you can select a point on the campaign map to create a battle map. -Great animations that make the game a joy to watch. I love watching the hastati throw javelins into the flanks of enemies. They'll fall to their knees with 4-5 javelins sticking out their back. The campaign map animations after a battle are a nice touch too. -Very detailed cities that will undoubtedly lead to some very fun/interesting battles. The Good: -Strong garrisons let you build armies for war, not for babysitting unhappy citizens. -Well defined borders to territories and consequences for trespassing (no longer need to declare war just to move through a faction's territory). The Bad: -Disappointing graphics -Gameplay/Battles too quick -Too many battles devolve into blobs of melee infantry -Unable to trigger hastati fire at will (only throw during charge) -Unintuitive city management -Little to no information on certain aspects/mechanics of the game such as 'cunning' and 'authority'... what the heck do those do? The Ugly/Awful: -The AI.... I've had instances where the AI literally runs in circles in front of my army because they don't know how to react to a square formation. Routinely attacks into a vastly superior force. -Absurd lack of units for factions, with the exception of Rome. Feels like no improvement over the original RTW. -Borderline magical abilities with no downside leads to unnecessary micro for a primarily tactical game. -Very disappointing tech trees... very simplistic. A huge downgrade from Empire where technology was essential to winning battles and wars. -Awful user interface that makes diplomacy and city management painful.
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#106 Geminon
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[QUOTE="Geminon"][QUOTE="wis3boi"] none of what he said is moddable....so...enjoy looking stupid and insecure I guessWasdie

trolling is moddable... so, enjoy your report as well. so tired of the stupidity on these forums.

Trolling hasn't been moddable for at least a year now.

then you are apparently unaware of your own mod policies, because i have been suspended, and warned, for "trolling" a few times in the last 6 months. maybe you should inform your follow mods.
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#107 lionheart22
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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

[QUOTE="Geminon"] trolling is moddable... so, enjoy your report as well. so tired of the stupidity on these forums.Geminon

Trolling hasn't been moddable for at least a year now.

then you are apparently unaware of your own mod policies, because i have been suspended, and warned, for "trolling" a few times in the last 6 months. maybe you should inform your follow mods.

Unfortunately if your a well known user or a friend of a mod you can get away with a lot around here.
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#108 Geminon
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[QUOTE="Geminon"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]

Trolling hasn't been moddable for at least a year now.

lionheart22
then you are apparently unaware of your own mod policies, because i have been suspended, and warned, for "trolling" a few times in the last 6 months. maybe you should inform your follow mods.

Unfortunately if your a well known user or a friend of a mod you can get away with a lot around here.

these forums have become quite "clique-ish" havent they?
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#109 lightingbird
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[QUOTE="Postmortem123"]

Some people here must have magical PCs. Me and my friends bought the game and none of us find it playable above Medium settings, at which point it looks significantly worse than Shogun 2.

KHAndAnime

Do you have a million background processes running or something? If you can't run this game above medium, then there's something seriously wrong with your PC dude. I'd consider driver sweeping or something. Or are you trying to play the game with Eyefinity on 3 1600p monitors?

 

100% agree.

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#110 AdamPA1006
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[QUOTE="Swiftstrike5"]Here's my opinion after a few hours. The Awesome: -Every point on campaign map represents a battle map. When creating a custom battle, you can select a point on the campaign map to create a battle map. -Great animations that make the game a joy to watch. I love watching the hastati throw javelins into the flanks of enemies. They'll fall to their knees with 4-5 javelins sticking out their back. The campaign map animations after a battle are a nice touch too. -Very detailed cities that will undoubtedly lead to some very fun/interesting battles. The Good: -Strong garrisons let you build armies for war, not for babysitting unhappy citizens. -Well defined borders to territories and consequences for trespassing (no longer need to declare war just to move through a faction's territory). The Bad: -Disappointing graphics -Gameplay/Battles too quick -Too many battles devolve into blobs of melee infantry -Unable to trigger hastati fire at will (only throw during charge) -Unintuitive city management -Little to no information on certain aspects/mechanics of the game such as 'cunning' and 'authority'... what the heck do those do? The Ugly/Awful: -The AI.... I've had instances where the AI literally runs in circles in front of my army because they don't know how to react to a square formation. Routinely attacks into a vastly superior force. -Absurd lack of units for factions, with the exception of Rome. Feels like no improvement over the original RTW. -Borderline magical abilities with no downside leads to unnecessary micro for a primarily tactical game. -Very disappointing tech trees... very simplistic. A huge downgrade from Empire where technology was essential to winning battles and wars. -Awful user interface that makes diplomacy and city management painful.

+1 Agree with all of this, will have to change my sig lol
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#111 strategyfn
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I can understand some people don't like it. But, I just have to say this is probably the first game I will put 500 Hrs. into.

I mean Champions, spies that have their own boats, what seems like numerous regions to conquer etc.

I am going to conquer the whole map with the Spartans, then I will try a different faction on a harder difficulty. Maybe Rome, or Persia if I can be them or some Germanic tribe.

Hope they come up with some clever DLC. They can milk me like EA milks its customers with the Sims 3 franchise for all I care; well not quite.

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#112 wis3boi
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[QUOTE="wis3boi"][QUOTE="uninspiredcup"]

Going back to Shogun 2. Maybe after 6 months of patches and some expansions this will get better, at the moment, i'm done with it. Too much bother. Get none of this shit and a better game with Shogun 2.Geminon

a game that had just as many if not more bugs when it released....United States of Amnesia

so now you are insulting peoples nationality? wow...

Again with the easily hurt e-feelings...I'm american by the way and none of what I said is moddable either. You are quite amusing
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#113 THGarrett
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I'm enjoying it, but some of the bugs are really annoying.  I just completed Battle of Vesuvius in the prologue, and upon finishing it it went straight back to the autosave prior to that battle. :|  

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#114 Squeets
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I am pretty pissed off.

I finally went hard in my Athens campaign, conquered all of Greece (and had a blast) and some northern territories... My army was filled with battle-hardened guys (mostly silver rank, some gold even), my general was up to his ears in bonuses, but was 65 years old... So I figured now was the time to invade Rome before he died of being old and fat... I invaded the southern shore with my army... Both settlements undefended... I take them instantly with quite literally 0 casualties despite 1500+ garrisons in both (gold ranked archers for the win)... I am on hard difficulty and this is like easymode so I'm pissed... I start moving up the peninsula and there is one Roman army of about equal strength (in numbers to mine), but none of the units have veterancy and most are low tier units (Hastati, etc)... I wipe that army from the face of the Earth with modest casualties... I rest two turns to recoup losses... 5 Turns in I am at the city just south of Rome once again garrison dies with no casualties... Next turn I move in on Rome, no enemy army... 7 Turns of rampaging across Italy and there is no other army at Rome on hard difficulty... I attack Rome... I need a turn for my siege towers... End turn... Rome's garrison sallies forth and attacks me... Grassland battle.  I wipe them out.  Take Rome automatically. Never even see it on the battle map.

F-cking stupid.

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#115 nooblet69
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I'm really enjoying it with my first playthrough as House Julia Rome on very hard. I've already logged over 30 hours into it. In the process of conquering Asia Minor and Middle East. It is really dangerously addicting @_@. Though I do have to agree with many people and say it is really easy even on the hardest difficulties =/.

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#116 uninspiredcup
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[QUOTE="wis3boi"][QUOTE="uninspiredcup"]

Going back to Shogun 2. Maybe after 6 months of patches and some expansions this will get better, at the moment, i'm done with it. Too much bother. Get none of this shit and a better game with Shogun 2.Geminon

a game that had just as many if not more bugs when it released....United States of Amnesia

so now you are insulting peoples nationality? wow...

 

Just ignore him, what he said didn't even make logical sense. Might as well have been a 5 year oild banging the keyboard "I DONT WHIKE U" lol.

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#117 deactivated-58b6232955e4a
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It's fun but it doesn't feel finished.
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#118 QQabitmoar
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My own damn fault for pre-ordering. Serves me right.

It's gonna be a great game in 6 months.

Anyway, how is performance for you guys after the update? It seems to run better for me now I average 35 on Extreme on my 580, whereas before I could hardly get 25.

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#119 wis3boi
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[QUOTE="Geminon"][QUOTE="wis3boi"] a game that had just as many if not more bugs when it released....United States of Amnesia

uninspiredcup

so now you are insulting peoples nationality? wow...

 

Just ignore him, what he said didn't even make logical sense. Might as well have been a 5 year oild banging the keyboard "I DONT WHIKE U" lol.

Your bipolar personality on this website isn't unique or amusing
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#120 sleepingzzz
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After playing it for awhile now I would give it a 8.5 once the bugs are cleared up.

The graphics are very nice if your machine can handle it.  I like how they added food to the game.  I also really like the combine sea and land battles.  

What I don't like is how they simplified the city management.  I agree with the devs that it needed to be cut down as it was getting way too bloated with useless buildings.  I just think they cut it down way too much.  It's just too simple now for a strategy game.  Generals also die too quickly.  I didn't like how they took out the seasons.

The battles would be a lot better if they would simply last longer.  Sea battles end extremely fast as it seems a bit too easy to sink boats simply by ramming them.  Land fights are also too quick.  The AI seems to be very odd.  In one campaign I couldn't find anyone with a decent army to fight.  In another I was constantly fighting by getting attacked by an allied group of 3 kingdoms each sending close to a full stack army against me around turn 25.

What I noticed is that the AI likes to fight itself a little too much which depletes their armies in some campaigns.  In the empty campaign I checked Rome and they were at war with over a dozen factions when they only occupied around 6 cities.  Seems to be more common that the AI is at complete war with itself.

The one time the AI decided to make a bunch of alliances rather than fight each other the game sent a crazy number of armies against me.  Which was where I had the most fun with the game.

After a couple patches the game should be much better but, the original Rome far exceeds it.

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#121 strategyfn
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I take them instantly with quite literally 0 casualties despite 1500+ garrisons in both (gold ranked archers for the win)... I am on hard difficulty and this is like easymode so I'm pissed...

Squeets

Have you tried full-realism setting in the game? You can only see your enemy up to 600 meters in that mode. That should make it more difficult, I guess. I haven't tried it maybe my next playthrough.

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#122 klusps
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I personally don't like not being able to split your army without creating another general. I ran into a situation where I either have to leave my city defenceless in order to attack a city, or create a new army entirely.

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#123 illmatic87
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I personally don't like not being able to split your army without creating another general.klusps

This sounds like one of those elements in the game that puts historical/cultural accuracy over good game design. The same kinda decision that made Shoguns 2s naval battles being rather underwhelming.

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#124 KHAndAnime
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[QUOTE="klusps"]

I personally don't like not being able to split your army without creating another general.illmatic87

This sounds like one of those elements in the game that puts historical/cultural accuracy over good game design. The same kinda decision that made Shoguns 2s naval battles being rather underwhelming.

God forbid having to actually use strategy in a strategy game. :P There's nothing intrinsically better in the game design of being able to split armies. It could simply make the game too easy, unbalanced, and/or unstrategic.

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#125 strategyfn
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I like the garrison feature, and it gives you the option to build a certain way so you have defenses (more garrison) in a city.

Just noticed you can have hot oil as a defense for gates. I thought my gate was breaking down and it was dust from far away. Upon closer inspection I noticed it was hot oil, and I laughed.

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#126 GeneralMufinMan
Member since 2013 • 387 Posts

Loving it so far, had to lower the resolution to 1080p to get a decent framerate but that's not exactly heart breaking. Like the new features, really like the new way provinces and polotics are handled. The tutorial's kinda on the weak side explaining the new features however. I'm sure I'll get my 100+ hours out of it over the next couple years. Has repleaced Medieval 2 as my go-to Total War game. Probably helps that I haven't had any of the more serious issues some people are expierencing, not even texture pop-in :) 9/10

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#127 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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enjoy the mod report.... i dont have the time or energy for your petty dick wagging contest.Geminon

Waaaaah, poor baby. You're the most negative user on these forums. Expect to be called out on it every time I see you.

Nothing changes from my original post. You obviously are running the incorrect settings for the type of PC that you have.

Also, you're a coward for reporting me. You constantly troll these forums and then report other people for giving back your own shit? Grow up, dude.

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#128 Geminon
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[QUOTE="Geminon"]enjoy the mod report.... i dont have the time or energy for your petty dick wagging contest.airshocker

Waaaaah, poor baby. You're the most negative user on these forums. Expect to be called out on it every time I see you.

Nothing changes from my original post. You obviously are running the incorrect settings for the type of PC that you have.

Also, you're a coward for reporting me. You constantly troll these forums and then report other people for giving back your own shit? Grow up, dude.

uh oh... someone is throwing a temper tantrum. he even had to edit his post a couple of times....
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#129 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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uh oh... someone is throwing a temper tantrum. he even had to edit his post a couple of times....Geminon

Calling you out doesn't mean I'm having a temper tantrum.

And I edited to add more things to the post. You're deluded if you think it was for any other reason.

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#130 Spoonoop
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I have only completed the prologue but so far I'm liking it. I don't seem to be having these severe issues that I keep hearing about. So far the worst has been campaign map lag, battle lag, and some AI issues. I'll see what I encounter during my first real campaign.

The only thing I'm not too fond of so far are the naval battles. One time I decided to meet an enemy army at sea instead of waiting for them to attack my settlement. So I move my army out to sea and get annihilated. I reloaded and decided to wait for them to attack me on land and ended up winning a heroic victory. I guess I'm still figuring out the naval battles. It seems that it's best to just ram the shit out of anything whenever you can. 

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#131 strategyfn
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I'm 42 turns in and haven't had any problem. The new patch added to my game's performance: Units look better now, cinematic camera runs smoother.

Some of the later battle environments look really nice. The game has provided me with a lot of laughs/entertainment and I am only about 3/4 done uniting Greece under Sparta.

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#132 Bikouchu35
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Base on all the total war I ever played along with this one, I'd say the game is a bit clumsy such as the menu and gameplay(I suppose thats where the difficulty lies). My units were acting a bit dumb with the ladder but I manage to get them up, I suppose practice makes perfect. The ai is retarded as bricks, left my eye for a second and they started wavering, but once I rally them together they began fighting again.

Besides the nitpick, glitch, and fps. All I can say is that I am loving it. Almost finished conquering the two province by Brittons starting point.

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#133 Geminon
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[QUOTE="Geminon"]uh oh... someone is throwing a temper tantrum. he even had to edit his post a couple of times....airshocker

Calling you out doesn't mean I'm having a temper tantrum.

And I edited to add more things to the post. You're deluded if you think it was for any other reason.

no, throwing insults and repeatedly editing your post so you can get more in means you are throwing a temper tantrum... i dunno what else i would call it. mad guy is mad. what can i say?
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#134 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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no, throwing insults and repeatedly editing your post so you can get more in means you are throwing a temper tantrum... i dunno what else i would call it. mad guy is mad. what can i say?Geminon

You can call it whatever you want, it's not like anybody here even takes your opinions seriously anymore.

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#135 kweeni
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It's good but also disappointing at the same time. I think they should have delayed it a bit more because right now it feels a bit messy and unfinished. They said they'll keep releasing patches to fix the issues but to me that just sound unprofessional and like a poor excuse to release the game early to make money...

Main things I want them to fix:
- Make end turn shorter. Pressing that button is like a torture. Seriously it takes way too long. I know there are a lot of factions but something really needs to be done about this.
- Combat AI is dumb as sh*t.
- Fix the graphical glitches. Idk if it's just my laptop but on the campaign map when I move the camera around it sometimes takes a second for the textures to fully load. It's not a huge deal but as I said it makes the game feel unfinished and takes away a little from the experience.
- Fix the unit cards. I'm not even talking about the art style, I just want them to get rid of that stupid green bar that's supposed indicate how much men are left in the unit and just show a number instead like in the previous games. This pissed me off a lot more than it should, I hate it. Wish they'd just made the unit cards similar to Shogun 2... If they won't fix this then I hope a mod will at least.


Anyway I'm enjoying the game right now and don't regret my purschase but if they could fix at least the above the experience would be a whole lot better. There are some other annoying things but no point in listing them all here.

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#137 deactivated-5a9b3f32ef4e9
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The turn times and AI are my main problems with the game now. I'm fine with running the game on the High preset, it looks okay.

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#138 KHAndAnime
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The turn times and AI are my main problems with the game now. I'm fine with running the game on the High preset, it looks okay.

Postmortem123
Finally running the game how I have it on my 5850? :P
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#139 deactivated-5a9b3f32ef4e9
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[QUOTE="Postmortem123"]

The turn times and AI are my main problems with the game now. I'm fine with running the game on the High preset, it looks okay.

KHAndAnime
Finally running the game how I have it on my 5850? :P

I've finally started the single player; it runs much better than multiplayer.
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#140 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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mad guy is REALLY mad... now he is throwing around "nobody likes you neener neener!" like i said, i dont have time for your dick wagging contest. go get mad somewhere else.Geminon

Apparently you do because you keep on replying to me.

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#141 uninspiredcup
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I was reading the guardian review was pretty well written and brought up a point many people have but beautifully written.

 

"That can't save Rome II. Everything is contained in this single fact: my longest campaign, by far, was spent trying to take the Spartans to world domination. While checking a detail about the Spartan units, I realised that they're part of a DLC pack that is, an extra purchase is required to use Greek factions. This game should never have been released in its current state, yet the makers have hived off "extra" content to be sold on the day of release."


Usually when I pick up a Total War it becomes all encompassing and all other games tend to become moot for a while. This is the first case of apathy i'v had towards a Total War title. I really hope CA take stoke of this and perhaps improve it with a FOTS like game changing expansion but that is very unlikely, the problems are at the games core. As far as Total War goes, it's probably the weakest entry.

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#142 KHAndAnime
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I won't lie - the DLC factions is a very low blow from CA.
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#143 wis3boi
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I won't lie - the DLC factions is a very low blow from CA.KHAndAnime
you act like this is new
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#144 KHAndAnime
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[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"]I won't lie - the DLC factions is a very low blow from CA.wis3boi
you act like this is new

You act like this isn't the first game from CA with purchasable launch DLC.
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#145 wis3boi
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[QUOTE="wis3boi"][QUOTE="KHAndAnime"]I won't lie - the DLC factions is a very low blow from CA.KHAndAnime
you act like this is new

You act like this isn't the first game from CA with purchasable launch DLC.

I got it for free...oh well
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#146 with_teeth26
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[QUOTE="wis3boi"][QUOTE="KHAndAnime"]I won't lie - the DLC factions is a very low blow from CA.KHAndAnime
you act like this is new

You act like this isn't the first game from CA with purchasable launch DLC.

Sega did the same thing with CoH 2, shouldn't come as a surprise. 

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#147 KHAndAnime
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[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"][QUOTE="wis3boi"] you act like this is newwith_teeth26

You act like this isn't the first game from CA with purchasable launch DLC.

Sega did the same thing with CoH 2, shouldn't come as a surprise. 

Sega didn't restrict factions with CoH 2, just some skins and some doctrines - nothing that can be considered even a fraction as major as missing factions.
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#148 Gr0wl
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Someone please help me with the following question , or should I say dilemma . I understood the pigs and screaming women in Rome Total War , but how come in Rome Total War 2 , a bunch of rock throwing dudes , a.k.a slingers , have longer range and are better than archers ? I am upset , at least if my slingers had flaming rocks , they would be my mini onagers that would tear huge walls apart .

#Sosad

 

 

Although it's been so long since Rome Total War , I feel like Rome Total War 2 , should have been something more , hell I would have waited a couple more months for a better AI , better diplomacy options , unique individual soldiers, personalised voices for statesmen ( generals , leaders , dignitaries , champions , scouts ) , and a more improved "Faction System" - something like Spartacus - Borgia - Game of Thrones feel . Duhno ,  just my 2 cents on it :)

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#149 sn4k3_64
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Well I have gotta be honest guys since I bought it i have hardly played it much..I'm pretty disappointed the performance is so bad during battles it becomes a lag fest. My machine isn't anything special but I lowered settings and tampered with the graphics and it still runs like sh*t during battles. I have enjoyed it somewhat, i like the multiplayer campaign but really they should of fixed these issues before releasing what can only be described as a "beta".Â