Router Suggestions

I need a wireless router with a WAN port. It should have good speed and must be cheap but perform well. U know the sweet spot thingy. WAN port with a good range and performance is the need.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833127215

That'd be the best bang for your $$

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833127215

That'd be the best bang for your $$

zaku101

garbo router

outdated in every way,it's not even dual band.

outdated cpu, low ram (275mhz and 16 megs of ram)

a refurb'd wndr3700 would be great (675mhz cpu, 64 megs of ram).

I have a refurb'd, I think it was from this guy

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Netgear-WNDR3700-RangeMax-Wireless-N-Dual-Band-Gigabit-Router-N600-version-1-/180981436560?_trksid=p5197.m1992&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D14%26meid%3D2305261431057409156%26pid%3D100015%26prg%3D1006%26rk%3D1%26sd%3D180981436560%26

i am on one right now, super ultra pfsense pc at parents house though =/

speedtest with a zoom5341 modem on wan.

there are better routers now, but for the price a refurb'd wndr3700 is the way to go

gigabit lan, etc, 5ghz @ 300 mb/s

also support for openwrt and dd-wrt

[QUOTE="zaku101"]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833127215

That'd be the best bang for your $$

JigglyWiggly_

garbo router

outdated in every way,it's not even dual band.

outdated cpu, low ram (275mhz and 16 megs of ram)

a refurb'd wndr3700 would be great (675mhz cpu, 64 megs of ram).

I have a refurb'd, I think it was from this guy

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Netgear-WNDR3700-RangeMax-Wireless-N-Dual-Band-Gigabit-Router-N600-version-1-/180981436560?_trksid=p5197.m1992&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D14%26meid%3D2305261431057409156%26pid%3D100015%26prg%3D1006%26rk%3D1%26sd%3D180981436560%26

i am on one right now, super ultra pfsense pc at parents house though =/

speedtest with a zoom5341 modem on wan.

there are better routers now, but for the price a refurb'd wndr3700 is the way to go

gigabit lan, etc, 5ghz @ 300 mb/s

also support for openwrt and dd-wrt

Most important parts.

[QUOTE="zaku101"]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833127215

That'd be the best bang for your $$

JigglyWiggly_

garbo router

outdated in every way,it's not even dual band.

outdated cpu, low ram (275mhz and 16 megs of ram)

a refurb'd wndr3700 would be great (675mhz cpu, 64 megs of ram).

I have a refurb'd, I think it was from this guy

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Netgear-WNDR3700-RangeMax-Wireless-N-Dual-Band-Gigabit-Router-N600-version-1-/180981436560?_trksid=p5197.m1992&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D14%26meid%3D2305261431057409156%26pid%3D100015%26prg%3D1006%26rk%3D1%26sd%3D180981436560%26

i am on one right now, super ultra pfsense pc at parents house though =/

speedtest with a zoom5341 modem on wan.

there are better routers now, but for the price a refurb'd wndr3700 is the way to go

gigabit lan, etc, 5ghz @ 300 mb/s

also support for openwrt and dd-wrt

I stopped taking you seriously the second you complained about it not being dual band.

If your going to use dual band your better off just using an ethernet cable or living in a house with no doors or walls.

It's also going to have a lower range than the Dir-655 and I sure know he isn't going to care about custom flashing it.

This is the only router I know of that outputs the greatest range other than the Amped ones.

We have a high class bussiness router at my work and it's **** compared to the Dir-655 we use at our other office.

Sure it has way more features but crapper range.

[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]

[QUOTE="zaku101"]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833127215

That'd be the best bang for your $$

zaku101

garbo router

outdated in every way,it's not even dual band.

outdated cpu, low ram (275mhz and 16 megs of ram)

a refurb'd wndr3700 would be great (675mhz cpu, 64 megs of ram).

I have a refurb'd, I think it was from this guy

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Netgear-WNDR3700-RangeMax-Wireless-N-Dual-Band-Gigabit-Router-N600-version-1-/180981436560?_trksid=p5197.m1992&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D14%26meid%3D2305261431057409156%26pid%3D100015%26prg%3D1006%26rk%3D1%26sd%3D180981436560%26

i am on one right now, super ultra pfsense pc at parents house though =/

speedtest with a zoom5341 modem on wan.

there are better routers now, but for the price a refurb'd wndr3700 is the way to go

gigabit lan, etc, 5ghz @ 300 mb/s

also support for openwrt and dd-wrt

I stopped taking you seriously the second you complained about it not being dual band.

If your going to use dual band your better off just using an ethernet cable or living in a house with no doors or walls.

It's also going to have a lower range than the Dir-655 and I sure know he isn't going to care about custom flashing it.

This is the only router I know of that outputs the greatest range other than the Amped ones.

We have a high class bussiness router at my work and it's **** compared to the Dir-655 we use at our other office.

Sure it has way more features but crapper range.

lol.
what do you mean dual band isn't important? All the intel cards cannot do (or at least to my knowledge, 6230 and 6300 for sure) can't do 300 mb/s over 2.4ghz, no matter how wide the spectrum is.

Dual band is very important, why wouldn't you want full wifi speed? Lan transfers, etc.
The range is great on the wndr3700, I don't know what you are talking about. I have one, and it goes through the whole house.

The dir-655 is just worse.

There is 0 point in buying one of those now.

Also I had a dir-655 for a bit. The interface blows.

And I couldn't do 300 mb/s over wireless n. In fact even right next to it on my intel 6230 I could only get a link speed of around 80 mb/s

I then got a wndr3700, far superior.

Why do people keep on using the MODEM + ROUTER combination instead of an all in one solution? I have the Netgear All in One N600 Router/Modem and it doesn't miss a beat with the added advantage of less cables, less power.FelipeInside

because they're most often awful?
also no support for custom firmwares then
dslreports users hate combos
and for good reason
here are a few docsis 3.0 ones
http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-SURFboard-Gateway-SBG6580-Wireless/dp/B0040IUI46/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1348644321&sr=8-2&keywords=modem+router
http://www.amazon.com/Zoom-Cable-Modem-Router-Docsis/dp/B0056VN9M4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1348644363&sr=8-1&keywords=zoom5350

i had a zoom 5350 for a bit, until i returned it. Too buggy. Reason I got it was because it was the only supported modem that supported 8 downstream channels. That of course is changed now with modems like the dpc3010, zoom5341j, sb6141 etc.

and isn't the combo you have a dsl modem/router?

also awful reviews

http://www.amazon.com/Netgear-Wireless-Gigabit-Router-DGND3700/dp/B005276QSQ

Why do people keep on using the MODEM + ROUTER combination instead of an all in one solution? I have the Netgear All in One N600 Router/Modem and it doesn't miss a beat with the added advantage of less cables, less power.FelipeInside

Cuz they suck bro

[QUOTE="zaku101"]

[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]

garbo router

outdated in every way,it's not even dual band.

outdated cpu, low ram (275mhz and 16 megs of ram)

a refurb'd wndr3700 would be great (675mhz cpu, 64 megs of ram).

I have a refurb'd, I think it was from this guy

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Netgear-WNDR3700-RangeMax-Wireless-N-Dual-Band-Gigabit-Router-N600-version-1-/180981436560?_trksid=p5197.m1992&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D14%26meid%3D2305261431057409156%26pid%3D100015%26prg%3D1006%26rk%3D1%26sd%3D180981436560%26

i am on one right now, super ultra pfsense pc at parents house though =/

speedtest with a zoom5341 modem on wan.

there are better routers now, but for the price a refurb'd wndr3700 is the way to go

gigabit lan, etc, 5ghz @ 300 mb/s

also support for openwrt and dd-wrt

JigglyWiggly_

I stopped taking you seriously the second you complained about it not being dual band.

If your going to use dual band your better off just using an ethernet cable or living in a house with no doors or walls.

It's also going to have a lower range than the Dir-655 and I sure know he isn't going to care about custom flashing it.

This is the only router I know of that outputs the greatest range other than the Amped ones.

We have a high class bussiness router at my work and it's **** compared to the Dir-655 we use at our other office.

Sure it has way more features but crapper range.

lol.
what do you mean dual band isn't important? All the intel cards cannot do (or at least to my knowledge, 6230 and 6300 for sure) can't do 300 mb/s over 2.4ghz, no matter how wide the spectrum is.

Dual band is very important, why wouldn't you want full wifi speed? Lan transfers, etc.
The range is great on the wndr3700, I don't know what you are talking about. I have one, and it goes through the whole house.

The dir-655 is just worse.

There is 0 point in buying one of those now.

Also I had a dir-655 for a bit. The interface blows.

And I couldn't do 300 mb/s over wireless n. In fact even right next to it on my intel 6230 I could only get a link speed of around 80 mb/s

I then got a wndr3700, far superior.

Idk why your complaining about thedir-655 interface, it's very basic and easy to use.

Dual band is pretty much useless because it's very limited in range and can't go through walls very well. What's the point of a wireless devices if your limited? Other than moving files over faster via wifi its a downgrade from 2.4ghz and as useless as 802.11ac. Will you actually notice the difference between 5Ghz and the normal 2.4ghz hell no, our internet providers don't even provide anything close to that speed. Meaning 2.4ghz is still the best RANGE and SPEED. If youre going to do data transfers its much better to do them via Ethernet it's faster and safer. Its faster than wifi and not worth the hassle of transfers getting messed up. Ive transferred games which are over 4gb via wifi then get a message files are missing...

One more thing. My current speed is i have a 368kbps adsl line so..I dont know why i would even need a 54mbps router. vERY NOOB IN THE NETWORKING THINGY. Any help is appreciated. thank you :)

dual band is gr8
i've transferred 400 gigs to my laptop wirelessly.
also i don't get any corrupted data over wifi? TCP ye
and yes I notice the difference between5ghz and 2.4ghz quite easily. Especially if you have a fiber connection, or comcast xtreme105 like me , or obv lan transfers.

Range is still good on 5ghz, I get a decent signal on my laptop throughout the house.

also the wndr3700 itself is much faster. Good for torrenting and QOS and playing games at the same time. Albeit that is even pushing the wndr3700 to its limits. The dir-655 would just die.

to the tc with a 368 kb/s dsl line, you can get any router. Whatever is cheapest on amazon or a refurb. I'd get a refurb, cheaper.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cisco-E1000-RM-Linksys-E1000-2-4GHz-Fast-Ethernet-10-100-Wireless-N-Router-/330716877352?pt=COMP_EN_Routers&hash=item4d00431228

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]Why do people keep on using the MODEM + ROUTER combination instead of an all in one solution? I have the Netgear All in One N600 Router/Modem and it doesn't miss a beat with the added advantage of less cables, less power.GummiRaccoon

Cuz they suck bro

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]Why do people keep on using the MODEM + ROUTER combination instead of an all in one solution? I have the Netgear All in One N600 Router/Modem and it doesn't miss a beat with the added advantage of less cables, less power.FelipeInside

Cuz they suck bro

dual band is gr8
i've transferred 400 gigs to my laptop wirelessly.
also i don't get any corrupted data over wifi? TCP ye
and yes I notice the difference between5ghz and 2.4ghz quite easily. Especially if you have a fiber connection, or comcast xtreme105 like me , or obv lan transfers.

Range is still good on 5ghz, I get a decent signal on my laptop throughout the house.

also the wndr3700 itself is much faster. Good for torrenting and QOS and playing games at the same time. Albeit that is even pushing the wndr3700 to its limits. The dir-655 would just die.

to the tc with a 368 kb/s dsl line, you can get any router. Whatever is cheapest on amazon or a refurb. I'd get a refurb, cheaper.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cisco-E1000-RM-Linksys-E1000-2-4GHz-Fast-Ethernet-10-100-Wireless-N-Router-/330716877352?pt=COMP_EN_Routers&hash=item4d00431228

JigglyWiggly_

To the guys arguing with pigglywiggly, microwaves interfere with 2.4GHz but not 5GHz, so good luck staying online when your fat brother wants hotpockets

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

Cuz they suck bro

JigglyWiggly_

[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]

dual band is gr8
i've transferred 400 gigs to my laptop wirelessly.
also i don't get any corrupted data over wifi? TCP ye
and yes I notice the difference between5ghz and 2.4ghz quite easily. Especially if you have a fiber connection, or comcast xtreme105 like me , or obv lan transfers.

Range is still good on 5ghz, I get a decent signal on my laptop throughout the house.

also the wndr3700 itself is much faster. Good for torrenting and QOS and playing games at the same time. Albeit that is even pushing the wndr3700 to its limits. The dir-655 would just die.

to the tc with a 368 kb/s dsl line, you can get any router. Whatever is cheapest on amazon or a refurb. I'd get a refurb, cheaper.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cisco-E1000-RM-Linksys-E1000-2-4GHz-Fast-Ethernet-10-100-Wireless-N-Router-/330716877352?pt=COMP_EN_Routers&hash=item4d00431228

NailedGR

To the guys arguing with pigglywiggly, microwaves interfere with 2.4GHz but not 5GHz, so good luck staying online when your fat brother wants hotpockets

[QUOTE="NailedGR"]

[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]

dual band is gr8
i've transferred 400 gigs to my laptop wirelessly.
also i don't get any corrupted data over wifi? TCP ye
and yes I notice the difference between5ghz and 2.4ghz quite easily. Especially if you have a fiber connection, or comcast xtreme105 like me , or obv lan transfers.

Range is still good on 5ghz, I get a decent signal on my laptop throughout the house.

also the wndr3700 itself is much faster. Good for torrenting and QOS and playing games at the same time. Albeit that is even pushing the wndr3700 to its limits. The dir-655 would just die.

to the tc with a 368 kb/s dsl line, you can get any router. Whatever is cheapest on amazon or a refurb. I'd get a refurb, cheaper.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cisco-E1000-RM-Linksys-E1000-2-4GHz-Fast-Ethernet-10-100-Wireless-N-Router-/330716877352?pt=COMP_EN_Routers&hash=item4d00431228

FelipeInside

To the guys arguing with pigglywiggly, microwaves interfere with 2.4GHz but not 5GHz, so good luck staying online when your fat brother wants hotpockets

link the router he has

[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]

dual band is gr8
i've transferred 400 gigs to my laptop wirelessly.
also i don't get any corrupted data over wifi? TCP ye
and yes I notice the difference between5ghz and 2.4ghz quite easily. Especially if you have a fiber connection, or comcast xtreme105 like me , or obv lan transfers.

Range is still good on 5ghz, I get a decent signal on my laptop throughout the house.

also the wndr3700 itself is much faster. Good for torrenting and QOS and playing games at the same time. Albeit that is even pushing the wndr3700 to its limits. The dir-655 would just die.

to the tc with a 368 kb/s dsl line, you can get any router. Whatever is cheapest on amazon or a refurb. I'd get a refurb, cheaper.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cisco-E1000-RM-Linksys-E1000-2-4GHz-Fast-Ethernet-10-100-Wireless-N-Router-/330716877352?pt=COMP_EN_Routers&hash=item4d00431228

NailedGR

To the guys arguing with pigglywiggly, microwaves interfere with 2.4GHz but not 5GHz, so good luck staying online when your fat brother wants hotpockets

Hey want me to interfere with your 5Ghz, give me once second, let me close a door...

[QUOTE="NailedGR"]

[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]

dual band is gr8
i've transferred 400 gigs to my laptop wirelessly.
also i don't get any corrupted data over wifi? TCP ye
and yes I notice the difference between5ghz and 2.4ghz quite easily. Especially if you have a fiber connection, or comcast xtreme105 like me , or obv lan transfers.

Range is still good on 5ghz, I get a decent signal on my laptop throughout the house.

also the wndr3700 itself is much faster. Good for torrenting and QOS and playing games at the same time. Albeit that is even pushing the wndr3700 to its limits. The dir-655 would just die.

to the tc with a 368 kb/s dsl line, you can get any router. Whatever is cheapest on amazon or a refurb. I'd get a refurb, cheaper.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cisco-E1000-RM-Linksys-E1000-2-4GHz-Fast-Ethernet-10-100-Wireless-N-Router-/330716877352?pt=COMP_EN_Routers&hash=item4d00431228

zaku101

To the guys arguing with pigglywiggly, microwaves interfere with 2.4GHz but not 5GHz, so good luck staying online when your fat brother wants hotpockets

Hey want me to interfere with your 5Ghz, give me once second, let me close a door...

[QUOTE="NailedGR"]

[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]

dual band is gr8
i've transferred 400 gigs to my laptop wirelessly.
also i don't get any corrupted data over wifi? TCP ye
and yes I notice the difference between5ghz and 2.4ghz quite easily. Especially if you have a fiber connection, or comcast xtreme105 like me , or obv lan transfers.

Range is still good on 5ghz, I get a decent signal on my laptop throughout the house.

also the wndr3700 itself is much faster. Good for torrenting and QOS and playing games at the same time. Albeit that is even pushing the wndr3700 to its limits. The dir-655 would just die.

to the tc with a 368 kb/s dsl line, you can get any router. Whatever is cheapest on amazon or a refurb. I'd get a refurb, cheaper.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cisco-E1000-RM-Linksys-E1000-2-4GHz-Fast-Ethernet-10-100-Wireless-N-Router-/330716877352?pt=COMP_EN_Routers&hash=item4d00431228

zaku101

To the guys arguing with pigglywiggly, microwaves interfere with 2.4GHz but not 5GHz, so good luck staying online when your fat brother wants hotpockets

Hey want me to interfere with your 5Ghz, give me once second, let me close a door...

[QUOTE="NailedGR"]

[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]

dual band is gr8
i've transferred 400 gigs to my laptop wirelessly.
also i don't get any corrupted data over wifi? TCP ye
and yes I notice the difference between5ghz and 2.4ghz quite easily. Especially if you have a fiber connection, or comcast xtreme105 like me , or obv lan transfers.

Range is still good on 5ghz, I get a decent signal on my laptop throughout the house.

also the wndr3700 itself is much faster. Good for torrenting and QOS and playing games at the same time. Albeit that is even pushing the wndr3700 to its limits. The dir-655 would just die.

to the tc with a 368 kb/s dsl line, you can get any router. Whatever is cheapest on amazon or a refurb. I'd get a refurb, cheaper.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cisco-E1000-RM-Linksys-E1000-2-4GHz-Fast-Ethernet-10-100-Wireless-N-Router-/330716877352?pt=COMP_EN_Routers&hash=item4d00431228

zaku101

To the guys arguing with pigglywiggly, microwaves interfere with 2.4GHz but not 5GHz, so good luck staying online when your fat brother wants hotpockets

Hey want me to interfere with your 5Ghz, give me once second, let me close a door...

Is your door made of concrete or what

[QUOTE="zaku101"]

[QUOTE="NailedGR"]

To the guys arguing with pigglywiggly, microwaves interfere with 2.4GHz but not 5GHz, so good luck staying online when your fat brother wants hotpockets

JigglyWiggly_

Hey want me to interfere with your 5Ghz, give me once second, let me close a door...

Yeah all the new houses now are all made out of cheap wood. yay america!

[QUOTE="zaku101"]

[QUOTE="NailedGR"]

To the guys arguing with pigglywiggly, microwaves interfere with 2.4GHz but not 5GHz, so good luck staying online when your fat brother wants hotpockets

GummiRaccoon

Hey want me to interfere with your 5Ghz, give me once second, let me close a door...

Is your door made of concrete or what

Not the real point we were making, simple stating 5Ghz is actually more affected by the enviroment than 2.4ghz and doesn't pass through objects nearly as well. Meaning in a decent sized home with it would perfome much worse than 2.4ghz, add a few doors and your better off etherneting the house.

[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"][QUOTE="zaku101"]

Hey want me to interfere with your 5Ghz, give me once second, let me close a door...

zaku101

Yeah all the new houses now are all made out of cheap wood. yay america!

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

[QUOTE="zaku101"]

Hey want me to interfere with your 5Ghz, give me once second, let me close a door...

zaku101

Is your door made of concrete or what

Not the real point we were making, simple stating 5Ghz is actually more affected by the enviroment than 2.4ghz and doesn't pass through objects nearly as well. Meaning in a decent sized home with it would perfome much worse than 2.4ghz, add a few doors and your better off etherneting the house.

All I am reading is "I don't know how to technology"

[QUOTE="zaku101"]

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

Is your door made of concrete or what

GummiRaccoon

Not the real point we were making, simple stating 5Ghz is actually more affected by the enviroment than 2.4ghz and doesn't pass through objects nearly as well. Meaning in a decent sized home with it would perfome much worse than 2.4ghz, add a few doors and your better off etherneting the house.

All I am reading is "I don't know how to technology"

What don't you understand about 5ghz being **** than 2.4ghz in a 2 story house? Other than LAN data transfers 5ghz is a downgrade of 2.4ghz..

Like really whats the point of actually degrading wireless range when the only reason you actually go wireless is because you want the best range..

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

[QUOTE="zaku101"]

Not the real point we were making, simple stating 5Ghz is actually more affected by the enviroment than 2.4ghz and doesn't pass through objects nearly as well. Meaning in a decent sized home with it would perfome much worse than 2.4ghz, add a few doors and your better off etherneting the house.

zaku101

All I am reading is "I don't know how to technology"

What don't you understand about 5ghz being **** than 2.4ghz in a 2 story house? Other than LAN data transfers 5ghz is a downgrade of 2.4ghz..

Like really whats the point of actually degrading wireless range when the only reason you actually go wireless is because you want the best range..

"how does dual band work? lol I have no idea what I'm doing"

[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"][QUOTE="FelipeInside"]OFF-TOPIC: Sorry but I thought it was relevant to ask this here. This is the model I have: http://www.netgear.com.au/home/products/wirelessrouters/high-performance/wndr3700.aspx# It has Gigabit Ports but for the life of me I can't get Gigabit to work between my two PCs: - Both my PCs have Gigabit Network Cards (and they both show as 1.0 Gbps in Windows) - Both PCs are connected to Router with Cat6 Cable Yet when I transfer a big file, it maxes out at 30 Mbps ...??? Any ideas?FelipeInside

Could be your harddrive. Especially if it is external and going through USB 2.0, etc.

There is a lot of possibility for bottlenecks.

[QUOTE="zaku101"]

[QUOTE="NailedGR"]

To the guys arguing with pigglywiggly, microwaves interfere with 2.4GHz but not 5GHz, so good luck staying online when your fat brother wants hotpockets

JigglyWiggly_

Hey want me to interfere with your 5Ghz, give me once second, let me close a door...

All that Chinese drywall is great for WiFi

*+

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"] (probabkllky already know but I am going to say anyway) you know the transfer is in MB/s so that would be around 240 mb/s which is still slow, but more reasonable. if you didn't make that confusion, are you sure the network link is 1 gigabit? In the adapter settings, does it say 1 gigabit? I had used some bad cables and they take the link speed to 100 megabits. If none of those things are the problems, try different pc?GummiRaccoon

Could be your harddrive. Especially if it is external and going through USB 2.0, etc.

There is a lot of possibility for bottlenecks.

[QUOTE="zaku101"]

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

All I am reading is "I don't know how to technology"

GummiRaccoon

What don't you understand about 5ghz being **** than 2.4ghz in a 2 story house? Other than LAN data transfers 5ghz is a downgrade of 2.4ghz..

Like really whats the point of actually degrading wireless range when the only reason you actually go wireless is because you want the best range..

"how does dual band work? lol I have no idea what I'm doing"

It works like this the router lets out a crappy 5ghz signal and one 2.4ghz signal out at the same time, the 2.4ghz signal gets better range, then you have the crappy 5ghz for show and tell yet your friends aren't impressed when it can't even reach the second floor... Then you realize wait I can still sit a few feet away from the router to get the same speed as 2.4ghz for torrenting and stuff :D. Yet move a little 2 far and your wondering wtf is the point of even going wireless?

For example my gf lives in a 2 story house, her wireless box is located in the basement in the worst place possible near some iron pipes. However even from the second floor she can get 2 bars. We tried 5ghz, the network didn't even show up.

I've even setup a 5ghz network in a customers house, the damn thing would only give him 1 bar and that was just from his basement to his first floor. Keep in mind he had a very large basement about the size of the first floor of a house. Changed it to 2.4ghz only and I had an amazing 4 bars and much better speed.

Other than transferring large amount of data close to the router it's a useless gimmick.

or put the router on the top floor?

and yes 5ghz shines with fast internet and lan transfers. Hence why you get the wndr3700 which is DUAL band.

or put the router on the top floor?

and yes 5ghz shines with fast internet and lan transfers. Hence why you get the wndr3700 which is DUAL band.

JigglyWiggly_

Yes That's probably true but when 90% of Americans don't even have 20mbs it's just useless. 5ghz might actually be noticable if someone had a 100mbs connection which is very rare due to the cost or actual need for such a speed.

I also don't trust a router with internal antennas. Did a replacement for a customer once, replaced his super old G router that had 2 external antennas, got him a new dual band router with internal antennas, only saw a 1 bar improvement :/

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[QUOTE="zaku101"]

What don't you understand about 5ghz being **** than 2.4ghz in a 2 story house? Other than LAN data transfers 5ghz is a downgrade of 2.4ghz..

Like really whats the point of actually degrading wireless range when the only reason you actually go wireless is because you want the best range..

zaku101

"how does dual band work? lol I have no idea what I'm doing"

It works like this the router lets out a crappy 5ghz signal and one 2.4ghz signal out at the same time, the 2.4ghz signal gets better range, then you have the crappy 5ghz for show and tell yet your friends aren't impressed when it can't even reach the second floor... Then you realize wait I can still sit a few feet away from the router to get the same speed as 2.4ghz for torrenting and stuff :D. Yet move a little 2 far and your wondering wtf is the point of even going wireless?

For example my gf lives in a 2 story house, her wireless box is located in the basement in the worst place possible near some iron pipes. However even from the second floor she can get 2 bars. We tried 5ghz, the network didn't even show up.

I've even setup a 5ghz network in a customers house, the damn thing would only give him 1 bar and that was just from his basement to his first floor. Keep in mind he had a very large basement about the size of the first floor of a house. Changed it to 2.4ghz only and I had an amazing 4 bars and much better speed.

Other than transferring large amount of data close to the router it's a useless gimmick.

I was pointing out that you have no idea what you are talking about, sorry for the mix up.

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[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

"how does dual band work? lol I have no idea what I'm doing"

GummiRaccoon

It works like this the router lets out a crappy 5ghz signal and one 2.4ghz signal out at the same time, the 2.4ghz signal gets better range, then you have the crappy 5ghz for show and tell yet your friends aren't impressed when it can't even reach the second floor... Then you realize wait I can still sit a few feet away from the router to get the same speed as 2.4ghz for torrenting and stuff :D. Yet move a little 2 far and your wondering wtf is the point of even going wireless?

For example my gf lives in a 2 story house, her wireless box is located in the basement in the worst place possible near some iron pipes. However even from the second floor she can get 2 bars. We tried 5ghz, the network didn't even show up.

I've even setup a 5ghz network in a customers house, the damn thing would only give him 1 bar and that was just from his basement to his first floor. Keep in mind he had a very large basement about the size of the first floor of a house. Changed it to 2.4ghz only and I had an amazing 4 bars and much better speed.

Other than transferring large amount of data close to the router it's a useless gimmick.

I was pointing out that you have no idea what you are talking about, sorry for the mix up.

Well I am glad you think you do buddy...

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

[QUOTE="zaku101"]

It works like this the router lets out a crappy 5ghz signal and one 2.4ghz signal out at the same time, the 2.4ghz signal gets better range, then you have the crappy 5ghz for show and tell yet your friends aren't impressed when it can't even reach the second floor... Then you realize wait I can still sit a few feet away from the router to get the same speed as 2.4ghz for torrenting and stuff :D. Yet move a little 2 far and your wondering wtf is the point of even going wireless?

For example my gf lives in a 2 story house, her wireless box is located in the basement in the worst place possible near some iron pipes. However even from the second floor she can get 2 bars. We tried 5ghz, the network didn't even show up.

I've even setup a 5ghz network in a customers house, the damn thing would only give him 1 bar and that was just from his basement to his first floor. Keep in mind he had a very large basement about the size of the first floor of a house. Changed it to 2.4ghz only and I had an amazing 4 bars and much better speed.

Other than transferring large amount of data close to the router it's a useless gimmick.

zaku101

I was pointing out that you have no idea what you are talking about, sorry for the mix up.

Well I am glad you think you do buddy...

Well here is some evidence.

1) You refer to signal strength as bars.

2) You don't ever refer to transmit power

3) All of your examples are from one floor to another

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[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

I was pointing out that you have no idea what you are talking about, sorry for the mix up.

GummiRaccoon

Well I am glad you think you do buddy...

Well here is some evidence.

1) You refer to signal strength as bars.

2) You don't ever refer to transmit power

3) All of your examples are from one floor to another

Oh my I am sorry I didn't know we had to use big boy words on here to make us sound legit. I was pretty sure you got the idea when I referred to bars. I didn't know you wanted me to sound all complex and use transmission power which basically equals bars/signal strength and range. I didn't know I had to complicate your life with my simplitictiy and not over think things that didn't need it.

I am sorry I don't get the point of 3. When that's how you actually compare wireless performance within a real life everyday environment. We don't all live in a glass houses without any bounders or interference of any kind. Meaning unless you do then yes my environment of choice would have been bad. Also we are by no means reaching the cap of 2.4ghz when it comes to internet downloading when 100mbs cost $200 where I live a month, transferring files locally yes 5ghz is amazing, for everything else it's pretty useless.

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

[QUOTE="zaku101"]

Well I am glad you think you do buddy...

zaku101

Well here is some evidence.

1) You refer to signal strength as bars.

2) You don't ever refer to transmit power

3) All of your examples are from one floor to another

Oh my I am sorry I didn't know we had to use big boy words on here to make us sound legit. I was pretty sure you got the idea when I referred to bars. I didn't know you wanted me to sound all complex and use transmission power which basically equals bars/signal strength and range. I didn't know I had to complicate your life with my simplitictiy and not over think things that didn't need it.

I am sorry I don't get the point of 3. When that's how you actually compare wireless performance within a real life everyday environment. We don't all live in a glass houses without any bounders or interference of any kind. Meaning unless you do then yes my environment of choice would have been bad. Also we are by no means reaching the cap of 2.4ghz when it comes to internet downloading when 100mbs cost $200 where I live a month, transferring files locally yes 5ghz is amazing, for everything else it's pretty useless.

[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]2.4ghz is not a dying tech, it will stay here, the spectrum isn't going to be reallocated for something else. Also most devices do support 5ghz. Wireless A runs at 5ghz, and is just ever so slightly faster than wireless G if you are right next to your router.FelipeInside

5ghz wifi is not going anywhere

wireless ac mandates 5ghz

there simply isn't enough open spectrum at the 2.4ghz range. Pushing 40mhz in the 2.4ghz range isn't even allowed in a lot of places... Wireless ac uses 80mhz in the 5ghz band.

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]2.4ghz is not a dying tech, it will stay here, the spectrum isn't going to be reallocated for something else. Also most devices do support 5ghz. Wireless A runs at 5ghz, and is just ever so slightly faster than wireless G if you are right next to your router.JigglyWiggly_

5ghz wifi is not going anywhere

wireless ac mandates 5ghz

there simply isn't enough open spectrum at the 2.4ghz range. Pushing 40mhz in the 2.4ghz range isn't even allowed in a lot of places... Wireless ac uses 80mhz in the 5ghz band.