Samsung = the Best TVs

I saw the new Samsung 9000 series LED at my local Best Buy and the picture looked amazzzzzing. This was the regular 2D mode, it was not on 3D mode. They were showing Avatar on it and I could see all of the tiny little details on the character's faces. The movie looked 10 times better than my current LCD television.

When the price drops next year, I will definitely try to purchase one.

If you have not seen it yet, go to your local Best Buy, they will most likely have it on display.

Plasma > LCD with LED backlight. Nothing more to it, Samsung's TVs are far from the best.

You want the best? Go with Panasonic or Pioneer if you can still find any.

Not an expert, but my sister has had two Samsung HDTVs malfunction within 1.5 years. They were not cheap models either (over $1,000 each). I have a much more modest LG and have had it for about the same amount of time with 0 problems.

As a Samsung user for several years, Plasma is the best way to go. Panasonic has some amazing plasma HDTVs. I'll never go back to Samsung.

Last time I bought one it broke in 15min, with the circuitry screwing up and showing lines. Never again. Buy a Panasonic plasma.

Bravia > Samsung

Bravia > Samsung

000000000111

And add 20% for the Sony name.

Bravia > Samsung

000000000111

I have 2010 models of each.

Samsung PN58C7000 3d 58" plasma > Sony KDL-55NX810 240 Hz LED 3d 55" LCD

The Sony was $300 cheaper, and came with a ps3 slim. Have a friend with employee discounts for just Sony brand, otherwise would not have got it.

I bought this tv over the weekend at Best Buy. I needed a tv for my living room.

Samsung - 42" / 720p / 600Hz / Plasma HDTV

It is only 720p, but the picture is extremely sharp and detailed. When you look at the picture you may think that it's 1080p. Very beautiful picture with rich dark black color saturation. And the refresh rate is very high at 600Hz, so it is perfect for my game systems.

At only $500 it was a great bargain.

I bought this tv over the weekend at Best Buy. I needed a tv for my living room.

Samsung - 42" / 720p / 600Hz / Plasma HDTV

It is only 720p, but the picture is extremely sharp and detailed. When you look at the picture you may think that it's 1080p. Very beautiful picture with rich dark black color saturation. And the refresh rate is very high at 600Hz, so it is perfect for my game systems.

At only $500 it was a great bargain.

professorXzaver

[QUOTE="professorXzaver"]

I bought this tv over the weekend at Best Buy. I needed a tv for my living room.

Samsung - 42" / 720p / 600Hz / Plasma HDTV

It is only 720p, but the picture is extremely sharp and detailed. When you look at the picture you may think that it's 1080p. Very beautiful picture with rich dark black color saturation. And the refresh rate is very high at 600Hz, so it is perfect for my game systems.

At only $500 it was a great bargain.

NVIDIATI

^yes, it is in my living room so I end up sitting about 9 feet away from this 720p Plasma.

My primary tv in my bedroom is only 4 feet away from me. A very large 46 inch Samsung 1080p LCD. I have major space constraints in my bedroom, but I like having it close to me. Because whenever I use it, it becomes like looking into "a portal to another world" :)

Bravia > Samsung

000000000111

When did this big move back to plasma happen? Are they really that much better, what about burn in?

When did this big move back to plasma happen? Are they really that much better, what about burn in?

subyman

[QUOTE="000000000111"]

Bravia > Samsung

Marka1700

Burn-in stopped being an issue in 2007.

NVIDIATI

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]

Burn-in stopped being an issue in 2007.

000000000111

Its not impossible for it to happen on most sets, but its very hard considering all the countermeasures plasma's have. Something is obviously wrong with that plasma, or there is some sort of misuse as that is not something that would happen normally. Also what brand and model was that plasma?

Cnet 2008: "When we review plasmas here at CNET, most of them--including many budget models--don't experience any problems with burn-in."

http://reviews.cnet.com/plasma-burn-in-seven-things-you-need-to-know/

[QUOTE="Marka1700"][QUOTE="000000000111"]

Bravia > Samsung

000000000111

Which new Samsungs and decent compared to what?

[QUOTE="000000000111"][QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]

Burn-in stopped being an issue in 2007.

NVIDIATI

Its not impossible for it to happen on most sets, but its very hard considering all the countermeasures plasma's have. Something is obviously wrong with that plasma, or there is some sort of misuse as that is not something that would happen normally. Also what brand and model was that plasma?

Cnet 2008: "When we review plasmas here at CNET, most of them--including many budget models--don't experience any problems with burn-in."

http://reviews.cnet.com/plasma-burn-in-seven-things-you-need-to-know/

Samsung PN50C550G1F is the model he has, it's approx. 2 months old (tried to link but kept erroring). I don't know any of the settings, he just calls me when his tech "isn't working."

[QUOTE="000000000111"][QUOTE="Marka1700"] Guess who makes the panels for most Bravias.NVIDIATI

Which new Samsungs and decent compared to what?

I had to run a break-in dvd on my stepdads new plasma just to get the TNT logo off the bottom of the screen. He left it on over a weekend while he and my mom were out of town... "it kept the dog entertained" (**facepalm**).000000000111

That would be abuse right there. Even LCD's can suffer burn in leaving a still image on, though it takes a lot longer. Being able to get the TNT logo off after being left on for a weekend is a testament to the burn-in resistance of plasmas now.

Burn-in is still an issue for plasmas, IF you misuse the tv. Leave the screen protection settings on, don't leave still images such as logos or HUDs on for several hours, break the tv in properly and don't do max brightness/cell light etc. for 2.35:1 movies, at least until the break in is done.

It takes a little more care/knowledge than using an LCD, but you get a much nicer display in a plasma imo, for a cheaper price too.

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]

And what would be the reason new plasmas still experience burn in??? I had to run a break-in dvd on my stepdads new plasma just to get the TNT logo off the bottom of the screen. He left it on over a weekend while he and my mom were out of town... "it kept the dog entertained" (**facepalm**).000000000111

Its not impossible for it to happen on most sets, but its very hard considering all the countermeasures plasma's have. Something is obviously wrong with that plasma, or there is some sort of misuse as that is not something that would happen normally. Also what brand and model was that plasma?

Cnet 2008: "When we review plasmas here at CNET, most of them--including many budget models--don't experience any problems with burn-in."

http://reviews.cnet.com/plasma-burn-in-seven-things-you-need-to-know/

Samsung PN50C550G1F is the model he has, it's approx. 2 months old (tried to link but kept erroring). I don't know any of the settings, he just calls me when his tech "isn't working."

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]

[QUOTE="000000000111"] I'm kind of partial to the Bravia engine, 40" Bravia in my bedroom and a 55" Bravia in the Living Room. I will admit, though, the new Samsungs do have a pretty decent picture. 000000000111

Which new Samsungs and decent compared to what?

My panny plasma gets ir way to easy so in the new year im going back to my sammy led lcd.

My panny plasma gets ir way to easy so in the new year im going back to my sammy led lcd.

JKidd1085

I think he mentioned -Samsung PN50C550G1F

[QUOTE="JKidd1085"]

My panny plasma gets ir way to easy so in the new year im going back to my sammy led lcd.

NVIDIATI

My 2009 Samsung plasma gets pretty bad IR, and very quickly. It goes away in less than a couple minutes using the scrolling screen though. It has maybe 3-4 hundred hours use I'd guess, always on med brightness levels. But I never did a full break-in, maybe 50 hours. Fell into the opinions that break-in was no longer necessary, and got impatient because I hadn't had a tv for a couple years.

So with my 2010, I made sure to do 200+ hours of break-in before any normal use whatsoever. IR is pretty much non-existent, save for watching a widescreen movie with black bars top/bottom for a couple hours, but it is very light IR, goes away in seconds.

I did have a 720p 42" Pioneer plasma from 2003. Maybe I just wasn't savvy to the fact that plasmas had IR/burn-in, but I never noticed anything with that tv, and I used it as a monitor on desktop/games for months. So I was surprised my 2009 Samsung suffered from IR so rapidly.

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]

[QUOTE="JKidd1085"]

My panny plasma gets ir way to easy so in the new year im going back to my sammy led lcd.

BeavermanA

My 2009 Samsung plasma gets pretty bad IR, and very quickly. It goes away in less than a couple minutes using the scrolling screen though. It has maybe 3-4 hundred hours use I'd guess, always on med brightness levels. But I never did a full break-in, maybe 50 hours. Fell into the opinions that break-in was no longer necessary, and got impatient because I hadn't had a tv for a couple years.

So with my 2010, I made sure to do 200+ hours of break-in before any normal use whatsoever. IR is pretty much non-existent, save for watching a widescreen movie with black bars top/bottom for a couple hours, but it is very light IR, goes away in seconds.

I did have a 720p 42" Pioneer plasma from 2003. Maybe I just wasn't savvy to the fact that plasmas had IR/burn-in, but I never noticed anything with that tv, and I used it as a monitor on desktop/games for months. So I was surprised my 2009 Samsung suffered from IR so rapidly.

Haven't noticed any burn-in with my lg plasma i bought a few months back. However my parents notice how much better colors look on my tv compared to their DLP and lcd tvsMFDOOM1983

To be fair to LCD, I doubt if your parents spent hours self-calibrating their LCD televisions. They may be using the factory settings ?? Being that you are in an internet forum, I'm sure you are the type of person who spent hours calibrating your plasma (like how I did myself).

Now that I have a plasma, I will admit that the colors are surprisingly vibrant and realistic. I love it a lot. But my LCD has it's own unique picture settings that I like also !

Oh well, guess no one cares.... but I just ordered a 24" LED monitor, Im gonna use it for my PS3, and PC... I could hang this thing on a wall - that's what LED is for. light weight.Dogswithguns

Did you make sure it actually is wall mountable? Not all LEDs have the VESA holes or whatever they're called.

Oh well, guess no one cares.... but I just ordered a 24" LED monitor, Im gonna use it for my PS3, and PC... I could hang this thing on a wall - that's what LED is for. light weight.Dogswithguns

[QUOTE="Dogswithguns"]Oh well, guess no one cares.... but I just ordered a 24" LED monitor, Im gonna use it for my PS3, and PC... I could hang this thing on a wall - that's what LED is for. light weight.ChubbyGuy40

Did you make sure it actually is wall mountable? Not all LEDs have the VESA holes or whatever they're called.

[QUOTE="Dogswithguns"]Oh well, guess no one cares.... but I just ordered a 24" LED monitor, Im gonna use it for my PS3, and PC... I could hang this thing on a wall - that's what LED is for. light weight.BeavermanA

[QUOTE="JKidd1085"]

My panny plasma gets ir way to easy so in the new year im going back to my sammy led lcd.

NVIDIATI

No i did the break in for 100hrs.My settings right now i think brightness is on the mid to high 60 and contrast at 80 with probably 500hrs

since when did we start goin back to Plasma? I though they were worse because they would die out alot faster or something :\

since when did we start goin back to Plasma? I though they were worse because they would die out alot faster or something :\

painguy1

Modern plasmas last up to 100,000 hours. That's about 35 years watching TV 8 hours a day. Some LCDs only have 30,000 of life (about 10 years 8 hours a day).

since when did we start goin back to Plasma? I though they were worse because they would die out alot faster or something :\

painguy1

[QUOTE="BeavermanA"]

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"] Let me guess, you're still in the break-in period and/or you use have a high brightness. The phosphor must age before IR goes away completely, as in it becomes very rare.

NVIDIATI

My 2009 Samsung plasma gets pretty bad IR, and very quickly. It goes away in less than a couple minutes using the scrolling screen though. It has maybe 3-4 hundred hours use I'd guess, always on med brightness levels. But I never did a full break-in, maybe 50 hours. Fell into the opinions that break-in was no longer necessary, and got impatient because I hadn't had a tv for a couple years.

So with my 2010, I made sure to do 200+ hours of break-in before any normal use whatsoever. IR is pretty much non-existent, save for watching a widescreen movie with black bars top/bottom for a couple hours, but it is very light IR, goes away in seconds.

I did have a 720p 42" Pioneer plasma from 2003. Maybe I just wasn't savvy to the fact that plasmas had IR/burn-in, but I never noticed anything with that tv, and I used it as a monitor on desktop/games for months. So I was surprised my 2009 Samsung suffered from IR so rapidly.

Concidering Panasonic hired many of the Pioneer engineers and possibly even bought the Kuro patents (I know they wanted to, but I'm not sure if the sale went through), buying Panasonic might not be settling. Some changes to make their TVs closer to the Kuros have taken place this year.

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]

[QUOTE="BeavermanA"]

My 2009 Samsung plasma gets pretty bad IR, and very quickly. It goes away in less than a couple minutes using the scrolling screen though. It has maybe 3-4 hundred hours use I'd guess, always on med brightness levels. But I never did a full break-in, maybe 50 hours. Fell into the opinions that break-in was no longer necessary, and got impatient because I hadn't had a tv for a couple years.

So with my 2010, I made sure to do 200+ hours of break-in before any normal use whatsoever. IR is pretty much non-existent, save for watching a widescreen movie with black bars top/bottom for a couple hours, but it is very light IR, goes away in seconds.

I did have a 720p 42" Pioneer plasma from 2003. Maybe I just wasn't savvy to the fact that plasmas had IR/burn-in, but I never noticed anything with that tv, and I used it as a monitor on desktop/games for months. So I was surprised my 2009 Samsung suffered from IR so rapidly.

psychobrew

Concidering Panasonic hired many of the Pioneer engineers and possibly even bought the Kuro patents (I know they wanted to, but I'm not sure if the sale went through), buying Panasonic might not be settling. Some changes to make their TVs closer to the Kuros have taken place this year.

Does it really matter if It is 720p or 1080p? I plan on getting a 50" plasma Panasonic for Christmas & the 720p is cheaper.

Thanks,

Joe

Does it really matter if It is 720p or 1080p? I plan on getting a 50" plasma Panasonic for Christmas & the 720p is cheaper.

Thanks,

Joe

savagetofu

So 5 to 7 feet on a 50inch TV and you will notice 1080p.